On Fri, 2019-11-01 at 00:54 +0100, Svante Signell wrote:
> On Thu, 2019-10-31 at 22:40 +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> > On Oct 31, Svante Signell wrote:
> >
> > > When elogind enters testing there would be many more people
> > > running
> > > Debian with sysvinit/elogind. elogind is needed for desk
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Hi Thomas,
Thomas Goirand - 01.11.19, 01:26:58 CET:
> On 10/31/19 5:13 PM, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > It is similar with "the" cloud.
>
> Why is there quotes around "the", and why do you think there's only a
> single instance of a cloud out there?
Well exactly for the reason that there is no
Adam D. Barratt - 01.11.19, 07:47:48 CET:
> On Fri, 2019-11-01 at 00:54 +0100, Svante Signell wrote:
> > On Thu, 2019-10-31 at 22:40 +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> > > On Oct 31, Svante Signell wrote:
> > > > When elogind enters testing there would be many more people
> > > > running
> > > > Debian
On Nov 01, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> Instead of using well understood parameters to adduser, which we've been
> using for decades, and understand well the parameters, systemd provides
Personally I never remember the exact semantics of many adduser/addgroup
parameters and I have to double check the
❦ 31 octobre 2019 17:51 -07, Russ Allbery :
> I think we should adopt sysusers.d fragments as the preferred mechanism
> for creating system users (with some rules, such as a standard for how to
> name the users and a requirement that the UID be specified as - unless one
> goes through the normal
Martin Steigerwald - 01.11.19, 09:25:07 CET:
> Adam D. Barratt - 01.11.19, 07:47:48 CET:
> > On Fri, 2019-11-01 at 00:54 +0100, Svante Signell wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2019-10-31 at 22:40 +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> > > > On Oct 31, Svante Signell wrote:
> > > > > When elogind enters testing there wo
On Fri, 2019-11-01 at 06:47 +, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
> On Fri, 2019-11-01 at 00:54 +0100, Svante Signell wrote:
> > On Thu, 2019-10-31 at 22:40 +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> > > On Oct 31, Svante Signell wrote:
> > >
> >
> > Marco, I think your information about elogind is not up-to-date:
>
❦ 31 octobre 2019 21:49 +01, Thomas Goirand :
> The idea has always been that it would be on best-effort from people who
> volunteer, without forcing anyone to do any sysv-rc support if they
> don't feel like it. What you describe goes along this line.
I have raised my concern about this a few m
Martin Steigerwald writes:
> Of course that raises the question on what relationship with a
> downstream like Devuan to aim for.
Debian has so many downstream distributions, one more fringe
distribution doesn't make any difference in relationships with
downstream distributions.
Besides that, fro
On 11/1/19 9:21 AM, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> However, there are only a few
> really large public cloud providers and most of them are US companies.
I would count at least OVH as a "really large public cloud provider",
yet they aren't originally from the US. There's also countless small
OpenSta
On 11/1/19 3:16 AM, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Thomas Goirand writes:
>
>> ...the bigger question is: why systemd-sysusers is part of systemd, and
>> not a standalone thing, which we could make an essential package. If we
>> want it to be part of a package standard toolkit, it means systemd
>> becomes
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Hi Gard, see below
On 25/10/19 11:45, Gard Spreemann wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Paolo Greppi writes:
>
>> The 10 remaining packages all fail with latex-related errors.
>> Unfortunately I know nothing about latex so I cant' help with those.
>> But I filed bugs or updated the existing open bug:
>> - ccfits
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Le ven. 1 nov. 2019 à 00:48, Thomas Goirand a écrit :
>
> On 10/31/19 9:56 PM, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote:
> > This isn't limited to just shipping an init script, have a look at the
> > tomcat9 9.0.13-1 changelog entry which dropped the sysvinit script.
> > Continuing to support an init script also m
On Thu, 31 Oct 2019 at 17:51:28 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> I think we should adopt sysusers.d fragments as the preferred mechanism
> for creating system users
I have been tempted to write a small reimplementation of systemd-sysusers
suitable for init-less containers and sysvinit systems, so that
On 01.11.19 02:33, Thomas Goirand wrote:
...the bigger question is: why systemd-sysusers is part of systemd, and
not a standalone thing, which we could make an essential package. If we
want it to be part of a package standard toolkit, it means systemd
becomes an essential package, which isn't
Simon McVittie writes:
> On Thu, 31 Oct 2019 at 17:51:28 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
>> I think we should adopt sysusers.d fragments as the preferred mechanism
>> for creating system users
>
> I have been tempted to write a small reimplementation of systemd-sysusers
> suitable for init-less containe
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On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 1:59 AM Carsten Schoenert
wrote:
>
> Am 31.10.19 um 16:28 schrieb Aron Xu:
> > This could be a reminder that we should start thinking about whether
> > we want to keep armel as a release architecture for bullseye.
>
> No, but some X-based applications might simply get exclud
Hi,
On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 04:32:28PM -0400, Theodore Y. Ts'o wrote:
> That's true SO FAR. The fact remains that systemd has *tons* and
> *tons* of new features which to date, aren't yet getting used in huge
> numbers of open source software packages or in Debian packaging --- YET.
I think tha
Vincent Bernat writes:
> An alternative for many system users is to use the DynamicUser feature
> of systemd.
Yeah, I completely agree, and we haven't even started talking about that
yet. This is what I mean by ten or more facilities like this that we
probably want to approach from the same phi
Am 01.11.19 um 14:55 schrieb Aron Xu:
I'm not implying to remove it altogether, but it could be moved it to
debian-ports, even RPi4 is alreay aarch64 capable.
This is not the question (of course arm64 != armel) and I don't see why
a still well maintained and working architecture should move to
On 10/31/19 8:07 PM, Alf Gaida wrote:
> I read it the same way - and also a logical consequece: if these
> patches lead to bugs, the maintainer should not be forced to fix the
> mess. I for myself would just remove buggy things that nobody care in a
> certain amount of time.
That leads to the q
On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 7:06 AM Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> That leads to the question how long it takes until these bugs are being
> noticed.
>
> I am definitely not going to test init scripts properly when the systemd
> units are exactly doing what they are supposed to. The number of people
> not usin
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