Bug#883383: ITP: liblog-any-adapter-tap-perl -- logging adapter suitable for use in TAP testcases

2017-12-03 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jonas Smedegaard -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 * Package name: liblog-any-adapter-tap-perl Version : 0.3.3 Upstream Author : Michael Conrad * URL : https://github.com/silverdirk/perl-Log-Any-Adapter-TAP * Lice

Bug#883393: ITP: jool -- Open Source SIIT and NAT64 Translator for Linux

2017-12-03 Thread Bjoern Buerger
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Bjoern Buerger * Package name: jool Version : 3.5.5 Upstream Author : Jool Dev Team * URL : http://jool.mx/ * License : GPLv3+, GPL Programming Lang: C Description : Open Source SIIT and NAT64 Translator for Linu

Re: ISO download difficult (was: Debian Stretch new user report (vs Linux Mint))

2017-12-03 Thread Marc Haber
On Sat, 02 Dec 2017 11:39:56 +, Medical Wei wrote: >Actually I am thinking about people with non-free firmware problems to get >additional firmware and download them to another USB disk. >In this way the user don't need to re-download an "non-official" ISO to >install Debian. Last time I trie

Bug#883398: ITP: node-randomfill -- Fill a buffer with random value

2017-12-03 Thread Bastien ROUCARIES
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: ro...@debian.org X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: node-randomfill Version : 1.0.3 Upstream Author : * URL : https://github.com/crypto-browserify/randombytes * License : Expat Programming Lang:

Re: Debian Stretch new user report (vs Linux Mint)

2017-12-03 Thread Marc Haber
On Fri, 1 Dec 2017 10:15:41 +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: >On Fri, Dec 01, 2017 at 02:34:40PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: >>It would have been best for him to download the ISO with non-free >>firmware embedded, do you know how he made the decision to download >>the ISO without non-free firmware? > >I

Re: Debian Stretch new user report (vs Linux Mint)

2017-12-03 Thread Marc Haber
On Fri, 1 Dec 2017 21:38:46 +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: >ALso AFAIK when packages are temporarily removed from testing for various >reasons that may break the user systems (or, at least, make their >experience worse when they want to install something). At least I've seen >a position of "test

Re: ISO download difficult (was: Debian Stretch new user report (vs Linux Mint))

2017-12-03 Thread Michael Stone
On Sun, Dec 03, 2017 at 04:37:24PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: Last time I tried to download the non-free firmware and put it on another USB disk, I ended up in changing to a shell from the installer and unpacking the firmware blobs to the correct place manually because I wasn't able to figure out h

Announce: cme now supports autopkgtest

2017-12-03 Thread Dominique Dumont
Hello cme now supports the autopkgtest [1] parameters defined either in debian/control or in debian/tests/control [2]. autopkgtest parameters are checked with 'cme check dpkg' and can be modified using 'cme edit dpkg' [3] Required packages: - cme - libconfig-model-dpkg-perl 2.104 - libconfig-m

Bug#883414: ITP: autosuspend -- A configurable daemon to suspend a system in case of inactivity

2017-12-03 Thread Johannes Wienke
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Johannes Wienke * Package name: autosuspend Version : 1.0.0 Upstream Author : Johannes Wienke * URL : https://github.com/languitar/autosuspend * License : GPL Programming Lang: Python Description : A configurable

Re: Debian Stretch new user report (vs Linux Mint)

2017-12-03 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 12/01/2017 05:31 PM, Alf Gaida wrote: > On 01.12.2017 16:53, Ian Jackson wrote: >> Simon McVittie writes ("Re: Debian Stretch new user report (vs Linux Mint)"): >>> I find it interesting that we're having this conversation at the same >>> time as a thread about how there should be a configuratio

Re: Debian Stretch new user report (vs Linux Mint)

2017-12-03 Thread Marc Haber
On Sun, 3 Dec 2017 21:17:59 +0100, Thomas Goirand wrote: >The FSF wouldn't be the only one. I at least, and probably a lot of >Debian contributors, would start hating Debian for promoting hardware >that needs non-free drivers if the non-free ISO was the default one. If >this drives some of our use

Re: ISO download difficult (was: Debian Stretch new user report (vs Linux Mint))

2017-12-03 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Sat, Dec 02, 2017 at 11:59:08AM +, Sue Spence wrote: > On 2 December 2017 at 11:49, Holger Levsen wrote: > > > On Sat, Dec 02, 2017 at 12:32:29PM +0100, Geert Stappers wrote: > > > URL is https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/ > > cd-including-firmware/ > > > > so who will

Re: Debian Stretch new user report (vs Linux Mint)

2017-12-03 Thread Alf Gaida
On 03.12.2017 21:17, Thomas Goirand wrote: > The FSF wouldn't be the only one. I at least, and probably a lot of > Debian contributors, would start hating Debian for promoting hardware > that needs non-free drivers if the non-free ISO was the default one. If > this drives some of our users away, ne

Re: recommends for apparmor in newest linux-image-4.13

2017-12-03 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 11:51:55AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Michael Stone writes: > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 08:22:50PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > > >> Ubuntu has successfully shipped with AppArmor enabled. > > > For all the packages in debian? Cool! That will save a lot of work. > > Yes

Bug#883429: ITP: nanopass-framework-scheme -- Embedded DSL for writing compilers in Scheme

2017-12-03 Thread Göran Weinholt
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Göran Weinholt * Package name: nanopass-framework-scheme Version : 1.9 Upstream Author : Dipanwita Sarkar, Andrew W. Keep, R. Kent Dybvig, Oscar Waddell * URL : https://github.com/nanopass/nanopass-framework-scheme * License

Should tasks be considered harmful?

2017-12-03 Thread Bjørn Mork
tl;dr: Desktop tasks have unexpected (from the user point of view) side effects due to dependencies. This can be considered harmful since the installer task selection can easily can trick a user into installing a "substandard" system. Yesterday I did something I rarely do: I installed Debian from

Bug#883430: ITP: stex -- stex to latex and latex to html converters and associated tools

2017-12-03 Thread Göran Weinholt
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Göran Weinholt * Package name: stex Version : 1.2.1 Upstream Author : R. Kent Dybvig and Oscar Waddell * URL or Web page : https://github.com/dybvig/stex * License : MIT/Expat Programming Lang: Scheme, TeX Description : stex

Re: Debian Stretch new user report (vs Linux Mint)

2017-12-03 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 12/03/2017 11:20 PM, Alf Gaida wrote: > It is not only the last bit. And i don't think that 'a little bit more' > promotion is sufficient. We should clearly state why we prefer the free > ones. But we should not hide the non-free ones and should have them on > the same site. With a clear stateme

Re: Should tasks be considered harmful?

2017-12-03 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 6:43 AM, Bjørn Mork wrote: > But how would a user without any previous knowledge of modemmanager or > Linux networking be able to figure this out? It sounds like you are looking for isenkram to be integrated into the installer so that the knowledge of which package maps to

Re: Debian Stretch new user report (vs Linux Mint)

2017-12-03 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 5:22 AM, Marc Haber wrote: > Debian is also about providing an Universal Operating System, and I > have seen BIG installations of Debian on server farms moving to PragBF > because the Broadcom network chips on those servers required people > jumping through hoops while PragB