On Fri, 01 Dec 2017 at 14:34:40 +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 1:36 AM, Arturo Borrero Gonzalez wrote:
> > * no support for the wifi interface of the dekstop machine (this was
> > expected, fixed by installing non-free package by hand, since no
> > network)
>
> It would have been
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On Fri, Dec 01, 2017 at 02:34:40PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
It would have been best for him to download the ISO with non-free
firmware embedded, do you know how he made the decision to download
the ISO without non-free firmware?
I can't even find it from following links on debian.org, although I
On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 07:18:43PM -0800, Seth Arnold wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 01, 2017 at 01:29:44AM +, Colin Watson wrote:
> > but should be much easier to maintain, and would probably also make it
> > easier to switch to a syscall-set-confining library if such a thing
> > exists in the future.
>
Am 01.12.2017 um 07:34 schrieb Paul Wise:
> On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 1:36 AM, Arturo Borrero Gonzalez wrote:
>
>> * no support for the wifi interface of the dekstop machine (this was
>> expected, fixed by installing non-free package by hand, since no
>> network)
>
> It would have been best for him
On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 01:52:18PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Over the years, d-legal has discussed a number of packages which
> automatically download non-free software, under some circumstances.
can you point to current examples in Debian main, either in sid or
stretch?
--
cheers,
H
On 1 December 2017 at 12:23, Michael Biebl wrote:
> Am 01.12.2017 um 07:34 schrieb Paul Wise:
>> On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 1:36 AM, Arturo Borrero Gonzalez wrote:
>>
>>> * no support for the wifi interface of the dekstop machine (this was
>>> expected, fixed by installing non-free package by hand, si
Am 01.12.2017 um 13:15 schrieb Arturo Borrero Gonzalez:
> On 1 December 2017 at 12:23, Michael Biebl wrote:
>> Am 01.12.2017 um 07:34 schrieb Paul Wise:
>>> On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 1:36 AM, Arturo Borrero Gonzalez wrote:
* no support for RW on NTFS drives, only RO. This wasn't fixed even by
>
On Thursday, 30 November 2017 11:26:31 CET Simon McVittie wrote:
> For a large package, gathering the list of copyright holders from
> the source into debian/copyright is clearly a lot of work.
For what it's worth, the amount of work can be reduced using 'cme update dpkg-
copyright' [1] (other too
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On Fri, 01 Dec 2017 at 13:15:04 +0100, Arturo Borrero Gonzalez wrote:
> But this is something that we have already detected: our main website
> needs work.
> We just need someone doing the work.
I don't think that's the only (or even the main) issue here. This new user
was able to find an ISO from
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On Fri, Dec 01, 2017 at 01:22:03PM +0100, Michael Biebl wrote:
> Am 01.12.2017 um 13:15 schrieb Arturo Borrero Gonzalez:
> > On 1 December 2017 at 12:23, Michael Biebl wrote:
> >> Am 01.12.2017 um 07:34 schrieb Paul Wise:
> >>> On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 1:36 AM, Arturo Borrero Gonzalez wrote:
>
> >>
Quoting Paul Wise :
It would have been best for him to download the ISO with non-free
firmware embedded, do you know how he made the decision to download
the ISO without non-free firmware?
Every time I need a Debian ISO, it takes me minutes to find it.
I didn't even know, that there were an ISO
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I'm looking at VTK, a large C++ code that also provides Python bindings.
I'm wondering now where to install the Python files. From the Debian Python
guidelines [1] :
> Public Python 3 modules must be installed in the system Python 3 modules
directory, /usr/lib/python3/dist-packages.
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On Fri, Dec 01, 2017 at 02:39:12PM +0100, W. Martin Borgert wrote:
> > It would have been best for him to download the ISO with non-free
> > firmware embedded, do you know how he made the decision to download
> > the ISO without non-free firmware?
>
> Every time I need a Debian ISO, it takes me mi
On December 1, 2017 7:15:04 AM EST, Arturo Borrero Gonzalez
wrote:
...
>Other thing is the branding topic. I would like to promote usage of
>Debian testing for standard desktop/laptop users in personal
>environments (not for business machines)
>but the 'testing' word scares people. I don't have
Simon McVittie writes ("Re: Debian Stretch new user report (vs Linux Mint)"):
> I find it interesting that we're having this conversation at the same
> time as a thread about how there should be a configuration option that
> denies our users the opportunity to choose to install non-free software.
Quoting Andrey Rahmatullin :
Currently the stable amd64 netinst is linked from the front page (top
right corner).
It is, indeed. Never saw it before...
Of course, the stable amd64 netinst is useful only for VMs.
Why?
On Fri, Dec 01, 2017 at 05:10:37PM +0100, W. Martin Borgert wrote:
> > Currently the stable amd64 netinst is linked from the front page (top
> > right corner).
>
> It is, indeed. Never saw it before...
It's a relatively recent improvement.
> > Of course, the stable amd64 netinst is useful only fo
On 01.12.2017 16:34, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> Testing doesn't have security support (and since neither the security team
> nor maintainers can upload to it, it's the most problematic choice from a
> security support perspective). I don't think that's suitable to recommend to
> end users of any
On Fri, Dec 01, 2017 at 03:34:04PM +, Scott Kitterman wrote:
>
>
> On December 1, 2017 7:15:04 AM EST, Arturo Borrero Gonzalez
> wrote:
> ...
> >Other thing is the branding topic. I would like to promote usage of
> >Debian testing for standard desktop/laptop users in personal
> >environment
On Fri, Dec 01, 2017 at 05:10:37PM +0100, W. Martin Borgert wrote:
Quoting Andrey Rahmatullin :
Of course, the stable amd64 netinst is useful only for VMs.
Why?
I suspect that this means that this image is useful to install a guest machine
in a virtualized environment. Maybe because indeed
On 01.12.2017 16:53, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Simon McVittie writes ("Re: Debian Stretch new user report (vs Linux Mint)"):
>> I find it interesting that we're having this conversation at the same
>> time as a thread about how there should be a configuration option that
>> denies our users the opportun
Alf Gaida writes ("Re: Debian Stretch new user report (vs Linux Mint)"):
> On 01.12.2017 16:53, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > FAOD I agree that the current situation with install images for random
> > PCs is quite unsatisfactory, but I don't know how to square the circle.
>
> Ian, thats dead easy - put th
On Fri, Dec 01, 2017 at 05:31:09PM +0100, Alf Gaida wrote:
> >
> Ian, thats dead easy - put the needed packages onto the iso and be done
> with. The installer should have an option to opt-in contrib and/or
> non-free. Done. Ok, that was the technical part.
Which has the potential to make the insta
Arturo Borrero Gonzalez dijo [Fri, Dec 01, 2017 at 01:15:04PM +0100]:
> >> It would have been best for him to download the ISO with non-free
> >> firmware embedded, do you know how he made the decision to download
> >> the ISO without non-free firmware?
>
> What others say is true. It's not easy t
W. Martin Borgert dijo [Fri, Dec 01, 2017 at 02:39:12PM +0100]:
> Every time I need a Debian ISO, it takes me minutes to find it.
> I didn't even know, that there were an ISO with non-free firmware.
>
> There should be a beautiful ISO download page, e.g.
> https://www.debian.org/download[s]/
> wit
Quoting Andrey Rahmatullin :
On Fri, Dec 01, 2017 at 05:10:37PM +0100, W. Martin Borgert wrote:
> Currently the stable amd64 netinst is linked from the front page (top
> right corner).
It is, indeed. Never saw it before...
It's a relatively recent improvement.
Well, I hadn't seen it, without
On 1 December 2017 at 14:39, W. Martin Borgert wrote:
> Quoting Paul Wise :
>>
>> It would have been best for him to download the ISO with non-free
>> firmware embedded, do you know how he made the decision to download
>> the ISO without non-free firmware?
>
>
> Every time I need a Debian ISO, it
On Fri, Dec 01, 2017 at 12:02:45PM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> Look over the fence. How long did it
> take for Windows XP to disappear? Before that, how long was Windows 98
> king? How many users still cling to Windows 7? They don't need the
> newest, shiniest software. They want something stable t
On Fri, Dec 01, 2017 at 07:08:07PM +0100, W. Martin Borgert wrote:
> > > > Of course, the stable amd64 netinst is useful only for VMs.
> > >
> > > Why?
> > It doesn't contain non-free firmware.
>
> OK, but that's an exaggeration. More often than not I was
> able to install Debian without non-free
On Fri, Dec 01, 2017 at 12:23:14PM +0100, Michael Biebl wrote:
> Am 01.12.2017 um 07:34 schrieb Paul Wise:
> > On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 1:36 AM, Arturo Borrero Gonzalez wrote:
> >> * no support for RW on NTFS drives, only RO. This wasn't fixed even by
> >> installing ntfs-3g [0].
> >> I didn't have t
Hi there,
On Fri, 01 Dec 2017 14:59:53 -0500, James McCoy wrote:
> People seem to be skipping over the fact that even after ntfs-3g was
> installed, the user only had RO access. That's the bigger issue.
Exactly, which IIRC is the normal behavior if the NTFS filesystem was
not properly "closed",
Hi there,
On Fri, 01 Dec 2017 14:39:12 +0100, W. Martin Borgert wrote:
> Quoting Paul Wise :
> > It would have been best for him to download the ISO with non-free
> > firmware embedded, do you know how he made the decision to download
> > the ISO without non-free firmware?
>
> Every time I need a
Luca Capello wrote:
> On Fri, 01 Dec 2017 14:59:53 -0500, James McCoy wrote:
>> People seem to be skipping over the fact that even after ntfs-3g was
>> installed, the user only had RO access. That's the bigger issue.
> Exactly, which IIRC is the normal behavior if the NTFS filesystem was
> not
On 2017-12-01 at 16:44, Sven Hartge wrote:
> Luca Capello wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 01 Dec 2017 14:59:53 -0500, James McCoy wrote:
>
>>> People seem to be skipping over the fact that even after ntfs-3g
>>> was installed, the user only had RO access. That's the bigger
>>> issue.
>
>> Exactly, which
On Fri, Dec 01, 2017 at 12:05:20PM +0100, Andrew Shadura wrote:
> How about https://notabug.org/rain1/linux-seccomp-pledge/?
Promising enough idea, but it looks like the author gave up on it and
never finished the job. This sort of thing is only really helpful if
it's maintained by somebody who's
The Wanderer wrote:
> On 2017-12-01 at 16:44, Sven Hartge wrote:
>> Luca Capello wrote:
>>> On Fri, 01 Dec 2017 14:59:53 -0500, James McCoy wrote:
People seem to be skipping over the fact that even after ntfs-3g
was installed, the user only had RO access. That's the bigger
issue
Hello everybody,
I started on the free software world 7 years ago. My first distro was
Debian. But in that time Debian was "complicate" for me. So, I change to
Ubuntu. I used to use them like a simple user.
A couple of month ago I decided to contribute to Free software, so I choose
Debian.
Now,
I agree with this mail. It was difficult for me, find the ISO download
(especially non-free installer)
El vie., 1 de dic. de 2017 a la(s) 18:15, Luca Capello
escribió:
> Hi there,
>
> On Fri, 01 Dec 2017 14:39:12 +0100, W. Martin Borgert wrote:
> > Quoting Paul Wise :
> > > It would have been b
On Thu, 2017-11-30 at 12:15 +0100, Geert Stappers wrote:
> Control: tags -1 moreinfo
>
> On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 04:25:54AM +0200, Victor Porton wrote:
> > I am writing software which should call a program in specific
> > version range
> > (or fail to call it if the program in this version range i
Hi,
by some website I was guided this week to the Save Code Share campaign
[1] of the FSFE from September this year which is already some weeks
old. Unfortunately I haven't noticed this project before.
As Debian is a project which takes free software and user rights serious
I propose that the Deb
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