On 04/06/17 17:15, Jörg Frings-Fürst wrote:
> Hello Daniel,
>
> first thanks for your comments.
>
>
> Am Sonntag, den 04.06.2017, 12:44 +0200 schrieb Daniel Pocock:
>>
>> Looking at Shotwell in stretch, in the Plugins tab of the
>> Preferences dialog, I see there are extra options now:
>>
>>
Dear developers,
I know, debian is now on freeze. But what does this actually mean?
Does this man, only security fixes are implemented or does this also mean,
packages, which are buggy are still be fixed.
I am asking, because I filed a bugreport to "uswsusp" (running debian/testing
i386 on an
On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 7:49 PM, Hans wrote:
> I know, debian is now on freeze. But what does this actually mean?
These links should help with getting an idea about that:
https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-ftparchives#s-testing
https://www.debian.org/releases/testing/
https://www.de
Paul Wise writes ("Re: What does "freeze" mean?"):
> Please note that the uswsusp shouldn't be needed any more as systemd
> handles hibernation IIRC. It is possible that removing uswsusp will
> fix the issue for you.
uswsusp may not be needed *on machines running systemd*.
> In addition, uswsusp
Afif Elghraoui writes ("Re: Too many Recommends (in particular on
mail-transport-agent)"):
> I completely agree. I've teken issue with packages recommending packages
> in the spirit of "if you want this, you might also want X", which is the
> literal sense of the word "recommends", but fits the de
On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 8:43 AM, Ian Jackson
wrote:
> Before doing that, it would be wise to try to find the answer to the
> key question which the TC will ask. Suppose A recommends B. In what
> way, or in what circumstances, will A fail due to lack of B ?
>
> In #849619 I don't see the answer to
Jeremy Bicha writes ("Re: Too many Recommends (in particular on
mail-transport-agent)"):
> On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 8:43 AM, Ian Jackson
> wrote:
> > Before doing that, it would be wise to try to find the answer to the
> > key question which the TC will ask. Suppose A recommends B. In what
> > wa
On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 9:15 AM, Ian Jackson
wrote:
> It does seem that some maintainers are unclear on these principles, or
> their application; despite what seems to me to be very clear wording
> in policy. So I think we need some examples. To work well they
> should have a high profile and be
Jeremy Bicha writes ("Re: Too many Recommends (in particular on
mail-transport-agent)"):
> On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 9:15 AM, Ian Jackson
> wrote:
> > It does seem that some maintainers are unclear on these principles, or
> > their application; despite what seems to me to be very clear wording
> > i
On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Ian Jackson
wrote:
> Jeremy Bicha writes ("Re: Too many Recommends (in particular on
> mail-transport-agent)"):
>> Respectfully, #849619 is not at all a very convincing test case yet.
>
> That's why I wrote, earlier:
I think you're looking at this from the opposit
On Monday, June 05, 2017 02:42:37 PM Ian Jackson wrote:
> Jeremy Bicha writes ("Re: Too many Recommends (in particular on mail-
transport-agent)"):
> > On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 9:15 AM, Ian Jackson
> >
> > wrote:
> > > It does seem that some maintainers are unclear on these principles, or
> > > the
Jeremy Bicha writes ("Re: Too many Recommends (in particular on
mail-transport-agent)"):
> I think you're looking at this from the opposite perspective that I
> am. If you intent to ask the TC to override a Debian maintainer, I
> think your arguments need to be much more detailed and documented on
Ian Jackson writes ("Re: Too many Recommends (in particular on
mail-transport-agent)"):
> Jeremy Bicha writes ("Re: Too many Recommends (in particular on
> mail-transport-agent)"):
> > I think you're looking at this from the opposite perspective that I
> > am. If you intent to ask the TC to overr
On Mon, Jun 05, 2017 at 03:03:08PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Recommends bloat as a whole is a serious problem for the whole
> project.
I disagree.
Both from my personal POV as well as from the feedback I get from Debian
users. There are many things in Debian being complained about, "recommend
On Mon, 2017-06-05 at 13:50 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Paul Wise writes ("Re: What does "freeze" mean?"):
> > Please note that the uswsusp shouldn't be needed any more as systemd
> > handles hibernation IIRC. It is possible that removing uswsusp will
> > fix the issue for you.
>
> uswsusp may not
Hi,
In the Debian tutorials, somewhere in the Debian file system[1] page
it states: “When you refer to root directory it means you talk about
the root of the file system: ‘/’. This is different from the home
directory for the root user: ‘/root’.”
The use of the same term with different me
* jvieir...@sapo.pt [170605 11:33]:
> Hi,
>
> In the Debian tutorials, somewhere in the Debian file system[1] page it
> states: “When you refer to root directory it means you talk about the root
> of the file system: ‘/’. This is different from the home directory for the
> root user: ‘/root’.”
>
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Andreas Moog
* Package name: vzlogger
Version : 0.6.1
Upstream Author : Steffen Vogel
* URL : https://github.com/volkszaehler/vzlogger/
* License : GPL3
Programming Lang: C++
Description : log a wide variety of m
Regarding "bloat"
> I think we should take a test case or two to the Technical Committee.
This one may be at the extreme, but it is one I personally encountered.
I was installing nmap on a system (no gui) and was a bit shocked. The
problem is well articulated by one post (an my thanks to him
On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 8:02 PM, Terry McKenna
wrote:
> This one may be at the extreme, but it is one I personally encountered. I
> was installing nmap on a system (no gui) and was a bit shocked. The problem
> is well articulated by one post (an my thanks to him for the work around).
>
> https://b
Terry McKenna writes:
> Regarding "bloat"
>> I think we should take a test case or two to the Technical Committee.
> This one may be at the extreme, but it is one I personally encountered. I
> was installing nmap on a system (no gui) and was a bit shocked. The
> problem is well articulated by
On 2017-06-06 10:37, Jeremy Bicha wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 8:02 PM, Terry McKenna
> wrote:
>
>> This one may be at the extreme, but it is one I personally encountered. I
>> was installing nmap on a system (no gui) and was a bit shocked. The problem
>> is well articulated by one post (an
Package: wnpp
Followup-For: Bug #592985
Owner: "Gabriel F. T. Gomes"
I have this software installed in my computer as a Debian package. Now,
I'd like to check with the community if the package is ready for Debian,
or if more work is needed (I'm willing to make the required changes for
making it
I did not intend to drag the conversation off topic. It was merely an
attempt to demonstrate the daisy chain effect of bloat. How a new
dependency in a CLI tool could daisy chain an install of X11.
(and I thought it was still open).
To clarify and close this tangent...
nmap (bug 714320 open
على الإثنين 5 حزيران 2017 08:43، كتب Ian Jackson:
>
> I think we should take a test case or two to the Technical Committee.
>
> Before doing that, it would be wise to try to find the answer to the
> key question which the TC will ask. Suppose A recommends B. In what
> way, or in what circum
On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 11:08 PM, José Vieira wrote:
> In the Debian tutorials, somewhere in the Debian file system[1] page it
> states:
> 1. https://www.debian-tutorials.com/debian-file-system
FYI, this page isn't maintained by Debian so we can't fix it. You
might want to leave a comment on the
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❦ 6 juin 2017 13:10 +0800, Paul Wise :
>> I’m not an IT educated person, so I recognize that I may be suggesting a
>> nonsense. However, as a fairly recent user of a Debian based distro, I got
>> quite confused and somehow frustrated for not properly understanding what
>> the guidelines were te
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