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On 25 November 2014 at 02:22, Paul Wise wrote:
>
> Making packages secure with systemd service files
> -
>
> Packagers of Debian software, who are needing to create systemd service
> files would benefit from learning from Lennart Poettering's recen
On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 10:04:06 +0100, Arturo Borrero Gonzalez
wrote:
>On 25 November 2014 at 02:22, Paul Wise wrote:
>>
>> Making packages secure with systemd service files
>> -
>>
>> Packagers of Debian software, who are needing to create systemd se
I noticed that my last mail about 766187 being related to 768657
didn't actually go to the bug report. (which was about this bug being
related)
Anyway, both of these bugs seem to be about providing /etc/inittab in
one form or another.
Please see KiBi's last entry about providing it via D-I which ha
Hi Marc,
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 10:54:39AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 10:04:06 +0100, Arturo Borrero Gonzalez
> wrote:
> >On 25 November 2014 at 02:22, Paul Wise wrote:
> >> [13] http://0pointer.net/public/systemd-nluug-2014.pdf
> >This seems pretty interesting.
>
> Inde
❦ 25 novembre 2014 10:54 +0100, Marc Haber :
>>> [12]
>>> http://ftp.nluug.nl/video/nluug/2014-11-20_nj14/zaal-2/5_Lennart_Poettering_-_Systemd.webm
>>> [13] http://0pointer.net/public/systemd-nluug-2014.pdf
>>>
>>
>>This seems pretty interesting.
>
> Indeed. Do we really have to pull that fr
On 24 November 2014 at 18:56, Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
wrote:
> 2014-11-23 14:27 Stuart Prescott:
>>
>> Svante Signell wrote:
>>
>>> I wonder how old a package build can be to be part of the release. Some
>>> packages are built up to a year ago, and rebuilding them now FTBFS.
>>
>>
>> As othe
Marc Haber writes:
> Indeed. Do we really have to pull that from a video or presentation
> slides? Is this part of the official systemd docs anywhere?
I don't know of any collection of all security related directives, but
you can find an index of all unit file directives in
systemd.directives(7)
On Nov 25, Arturo Borrero Gonzalez wrote:
> Is there a Debian-specific policy on how to apply these directives?
We are working on one, but the general idea is "please enable as many
security features as feasible". :-)
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On 22.11.2014 02:13, Troy Benjegerdes wrote:
> Someone will find a hole in something, and there will be fire when sysadmins
> have to upgrade in the middle of the night and now are running systemd
> instead of what they are used to.
Well, in that case, I'd say a rain of fire isn't entirely what's
"Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult" writes:
> On 22.11.2014 02:13, Troy Benjegerdes wrote:
> ... we should leave people the choice.
de·fault (d-fôlt)
n.
a. /Computer Science/
A particular setting or value for a variable that is assigned
automatically by an operating system a
Hi,
Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult:
> people who're maintaining missing criticial systems, large datacenters,
> etc, give a clear and absolute NO to systemd.
Care to tell us why? Other than "ugh, it's written by Lennart"??
> Debian will immediately loose 30..50% user base
Could we PLEASE stop
Matthias Urlichs urlichs.de> writes:
> Care to tell us why? Other than "ugh, it's written by Lennart"??
The “why” does not matter. Users do not have to justify why they
need to use something. I worked in for company that had a strict
“no PHP” policy once. I have encountered other more or less we
I have never really understood the reasons for this discussion.
I am not a system administrator ( at least none of a datacenter - just
for my home infrastructure, containing 3 machines ), and although I also
have a distribution running on one of those ( Arch ) which is using
systemd, I never reali
August 8th, Debian began supporting¹ choice among several init systems.
August 21st, Debian changed² default init.
To me, flexibility is an important feature of Debian. I am excited that
Debian extends its flexibility to cover several init systems.
Others agree, apparently³: Among those testing
This one time, at band camp, Thorsten Glaser said:
> Matthias Urlichs urlichs.de> writes:
>
> > Care to tell us why? Other than "ugh, it's written by Lennart"??
>
> The “why” does not matter. Users do not have to justify why they
> need to use something. I worked in for company that had a strict
Jonas Smedegaard (2014-11-25):
> August 8th, Debian began supporting¹ choice among several init systems.
> August 21st, Debian changed² default init.
>
> To me, flexibility is an important feature of Debian. I am excited that
> Debian extends its flexibility to cover several init systems.
>
>
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 06:01:38PM +0100, Sascha Mester wrote:
> Can someone tell me the advantages ( and disadvantages ) of systemd ?
> I'm about to leave Debian as an user - not because of systemd, but
> because of that discussion.
Wait, you are asking for a discussion about the advantages and
d
Hi Cyril,
Quoting Cyril Brulebois (2014-11-25 18:31:33)
> Jonas Smedegaard (2014-11-25):
>> August 8th, Debian began supporting¹ choice among several init
>> systems. August 21st, Debian changed² default init.
>>
>> To me, flexibility is an important feature of Debian. I am excited
>> that Deb
On Ma, 25 nov 14, 18:44:33, Michael Banck wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 06:01:38PM +0100, Sascha Mester wrote:
> > Can someone tell me the advantages ( and disadvantages ) of systemd ?
> > I'm about to leave Debian as an user - not because of systemd, but
> > because of that discussion.
>
> Wai
Jonas Smedegaard (2014-11-25):
> Quoting Cyril Brulebois (2014-11-25 18:31:33)
> > I'm not sure why people seem to believe that broadcasting a call for
> > tests through their blog, Planet Debian, various Debian mailing
> > lists, etc. is going to change anything here.
>
> You don't follow how ra
On Monday, 17 de November de 2014 20:45:19 Josselin Mouette escribió:
> --
> .''`. Josselin Mouette
> : :' :
> `. `'
> `-
On Tuesday, 25 de November de 2014 17:30:38 Stephen Gran escribió:
> Cheers,
> --
> -
>
> | ,''`.
On Tue, 2014-11-25 at 19:50 +0100, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> Jonas Smedegaard (2014-11-25):
> > Quoting Cyril Brulebois (2014-11-25 18:31:33)
> > > I'm not sure why people seem to believe that broadcasting a call for
> > > tests through their blog, Planet Debian, various Debian mailing
> > > lists,
Noel Torres writes:
> Why is it that systemd proponents are the ones using this kind of signature?
> Are they trying to insinuate that Debian is theirs?
Wow! A dipshit crazy conspiracy theory about systemd and its
proponents. Haven't seen one of those in a long time…
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On Tuesday, 25 de November de 2014 19:50:48 Axel Wagner escribió:
> Noel Torres writes:
> > Why is it that systemd proponents are the ones using this kind of
> > signature? Are they trying to insinuate that Debian is theirs?
>
> Wow! A dipshit crazy conspiracy theory about systemd and its
> propo
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 08:03:44PM +, Noel Torres wrote:
> > > Why is it that systemd proponents are the ones using this kind of
> > > signature? Are they trying to insinuate that Debian is theirs?
> >
> > Wow! A dipshit crazy conspiracy theory about systemd and its
> > proponents. Haven't see
Hello,
Below is a proposal for a (partial) solution for the upgrade problem of
keeping the installed init system:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=765803
This has been discussed privately among selected users/DM/DDs and since
the deadline for the ctte is December 4, it has to be
2014-11-25 11:14 Dimitri John Ledkov:
On 24 November 2014 at 18:56, Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
wrote:
Would it make sense to trigger rebuilds (or binNMUs, or actions to the same
effect) for all packages in a given architecture when there are important
changes in the toolchain, e.g. the defa
On Tuesday, 25 de November de 2014 20:15:36 Andrey Rahmatullin escribió:
> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 08:03:44PM +, Noel Torres wrote:
> > > > Why is it that systemd proponents are the ones using this kind of
> > > > signature? Are they trying to insinuate that Debian is theirs?
> > >
> > > Wow!
Svante Signell writes:
...
> Is this command something in debootstrap or the installer?
> preseed/late_command="in-target apt-get install -y sysvinit-core"
https://wiki.debian.org/systemd#Installing_without_systemd
Cheers, Phil.
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On 25 November 2014 at 20:33, Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
wrote:
> 2014-11-25 11:14 Dimitri John Ledkov:
>>
>> On 24 November 2014 at 18:56, Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Would it make sense to trigger rebuilds (or binNMUs, or actions to the
>>> same
>>> effect) for all pa
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Quoting Cyril Brulebois (2014-11-25 19:50:48)
> Jonas Smedegaard (2014-11-25):
>> Quoting Cyril Brulebois (2014-11-25 18:31:33)
>>> I'm not sure why people seem to believe that broadcasting a call for
>>> tests through their blog, Planet Debian, various Debian mailing
>>> lists, etc. is going to
Jonas Smedegaard (2014-11-26):
> Quoting Cyril Brulebois (2014-11-25 19:50:48)
> > Jonas Smedegaard (2014-11-25):
> >> Quoting Cyril Brulebois (2014-11-25 18:31:33)
> >>> I'm not sure why people seem to believe that broadcasting a call for
> >>> tests through their blog, Planet Debian, various D
Quoting Cyril Brulebois (2014-11-26 00:31:18)
> I'll probably stop replying here since I feel like I'm repeating
> myself over and over and over and over again.
You didn't repeat youself. Thanks for spelling out your opinions to me.
- Jonas
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Hi,
Noel Torres:
> > [ largish .sig ]
> Why is it that systemd proponents are the ones using this kind of signature?
Signatures like this one may or may not be welcome here, but they are not a
new phenomenon and have nothing whatsoever to do with systemd.
Frankly, IMHO this is approaching paran
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 3:41 AM, Noel Torres wrote:
> Who our users are?
Debian's users are the set of people and organisations who use Debian.
That is changing every day as people discover Debian, discover other
systems they like better, discover something about Debian they don't
like, try a sys
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