Re: overriding udev rules

2013-08-21 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Tue, 20 Aug 2013, Thomas Goirand wrote: > I'd be happy to find a correct and clean way to do this, because I also > need to do it, and it seems to be a fairly common use case. I currently > only delete the 75-persistent-net-generator.rules file (which I know is > the wrong way to do it as it wo

Bug#720380: ITP: node-sha -- Check and get file or stream hashes - module for Node.js

2013-08-21 Thread Jérémy Lal
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Jérémy Lal" * Package name: node-sha Version : 1.2.2 Upstream Author : Forbes Lindesay * URL : https://github.com/ForbesLindesay/sha * License : BSD-2-clause or Expat Programming Lang: JavaScript Description : Ch

Re: Dreamhost dumps Debian

2013-08-21 Thread Philip Hands
Wookey writes: > +++ Ian Jackson [2013-08-20 16:05 +0100]: > >> The bigger problem for a Debian LTS is this: 1. who is going to do >> security support for it ? > > Ideally it would be the people that want releases supported longer - > e.g this dreamhost outfit, and presumably many organisations

Re: Dreamhost dumps Debian

2013-08-21 Thread Pau Garcia i Quiles
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 1:48 AM, Ben Hutchings wrote: Ubuntu uses a combination of driver backports and newer kernel versions > in LTS releases. > > As Clint, Philipp and you say, I was wrong. However, I don't see that as an insurmountable argument against Debian LTSs. It "just" means the kernel

Re: overriding udev rules

2013-08-21 Thread olivier sallou
2013/8/21 Peter Palfrader > On Tue, 20 Aug 2013, Thomas Goirand wrote: > > > I'd be happy to find a correct and clean way to do this, because I also > > need to do it, and it seems to be a fairly common use case. I currently > > only delete the 75-persistent-net-generator.rules file (which I know

Re: Dreamhost dumps Debian

2013-08-21 Thread Wookey
+++ Philip Hands [2013-08-21 10:35 +0100]: > Wookey writes: > > > I have always thought that there was room for a business selling > > longer-term Debian support. > > Quite. > > It seems to me that doing things to keep these people cheerful should > attract a financial reward. If that made the

Re: Dreamhost dumps Debian

2013-08-21 Thread Ian Jackson
Russ Allbery writes ("Re: Dreamhost dumps Debian"): > Yeah, I know. But the number of such exceptions is relatively limited, > enough so that we can issue security advisories saying they're not > supported any more. It's not a comfortable compromise, but it seems to be > a workable one. The LTS

Re: Dreamhost dumps Debian

2013-08-21 Thread Ian Jackson
Ian Jackson writes ("Re: Dreamhost dumps Debian"): > I think we need to do more than that. We need to arrange to > automatically disable affected software (by default). (And that has > to be done in a way that allows an affected user to re-enable it, and > which is sorted out properly on upgrade.

Bug#720410: ITP: tdbcmysql -- Mysql driver for the TDBC database connectivity

2013-08-21 Thread Massimo Manghi
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Massimo Manghi * Package name: tdbcmysql Version : 1.0.0 Upstream Author : Kevin B. Kenny The Tcl Core Team * URL : http://tdbc.tcl.tk/ * License : (custom, BSD-like) Programming Lang: (C, Tcl)

Re: Dreamhost dumps Debian

2013-08-21 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 10:35:34AM +0100, Philip Hands wrote: > Wookey writes: > > +++ Ian Jackson [2013-08-20 16:05 +0100]: > > > >> The bigger problem for a Debian LTS is this: 1. who is going to do > >> security support for it ? > > Ideally it would be the people that want releases supported

Re: Dreamhost dumps Debian

2013-08-21 Thread Kevin Chadwick
My point of view is that Debian Stable should be aiming for whatever they believe the sweet point between stable and so usable without having problems is and maximising security. Aka maximising productivity and safety with no other concerns or compromises. Large hosting companies not having made t

Re: Dreamhost dumps Debian

2013-08-21 Thread Pau Garcia i Quiles
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Kevin Chadwick wrote: Does anyone even know for sure what the decision to switch was actually > based upon? > Not really, but I have seen Debian rejected at several companies (customers) due to too-short support of old releases and too-far away releases. Both are

Re: Dreamhost dumps Debian

2013-08-21 Thread Marc Haber
On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 17:58:55 +0200, Pau Garcia i Quiles wrote: >On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Kevin Chadwick wrote: >Does anyone even know for sure what the decision to switch was actually >> based upon? > >Not really, but I have seen Debian rejected at several companies >(customers) due to too

Re: Dreamhost dumps Debian

2013-08-21 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Kevin Chadwick's message of 2013-08-21 08:45:27 -0700: > My point of view is that Debian Stable should be aiming for whatever > they believe the sweet point between stable and so usable without having > problems is and maximising security. Aka maximising productivity and > safety with

debian-cross mailing list created

2013-08-21 Thread Matthias Klose
Hi, today the debian-cr...@lists.debian.org ML was created. The rationale for having such a ML can be found in http://bugs.debian.org/717332. The description for the ML currently is: Discuss cross building of packages and infrastructure for cross-builds The list discusses * How to cross-buil

Re: debian-cross mailing list created

2013-08-21 Thread Wookey
+++ Matthias Klose [2013-08-21 22:25 +0200]: > today the debian-cr...@lists.debian.org ML was created. Thank you, listmasters. > Please subscribe to this list if you are interested in cross build issues. https://lists.debian.org/debian-cross/ Just to save people working it out. We also forme

Re: overriding udev rules

2013-08-21 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Thomas Goirand] > Oh ok. Not useful at all if you ask me. Why? Because sometimes, you > can't change the MAC address. For example, if you use the OpenStack > bare metal driver, then you continue to use virtual machine images, > though they will be used on a real hardware where you can't change >