Re: /etc/hosts and resolving of the local host/domainname - 127.0.0.1 vs. 127.0.1.1

]] Russ Allbery > Matt Zagrabelny writes: > > > Does not the Wheezy installer still place hostname.domain.name entries > > in /etc/hosts for said hostname? > > We (Stanford) strip them out in FAI. We can, of course, continue to do > that, but I thought I'd mention it as a data point. If you

Re: /etc/hosts and resolving of the local host/domainname - 127.0.0.1 vs. 127.0.1.1

On 07/31/2013 08:30 AM, Steve Langasek wrote: > What I'm missing your email is a problem statement explaining what it is > you're trying to solve. The current implementation has been working > reliably for years. He did wrote it. 127.0.1.1 breaks because some daemon (many, according to him) bind

Re: /etc/hosts and resolving of the local host/domainname - 127.0.0.1 vs. 127.0.1.1

On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 03:46:29PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 07/31/2013 08:30 AM, Steve Langasek wrote: > > What I'm missing your email is a problem statement explaining what it is > > you're trying to solve. The current implementation has been working > > reliably for years. > He did wro

Re: /etc/hosts and resolving of the local host/domainname - 127.0.0.1 vs. 127.0.1.1

On Wed, 2013-07-31 at 15:46 +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 07/31/2013 08:30 AM, Steve Langasek wrote: > > What I'm missing your email is a problem statement explaining what it is > > you're trying to solve. The current implementation has been working > > reliably for years. > > He did wrote it

Re: Missing makefile

On Tue, 2013-07-30 at 23:05 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > Hi, all, > > I hope this is the right list. > > I'm trying to compile my first module for Debian (right now it doesn't > do anything - one step at a time :) ). > > My makefile is: > > obj-m = mymodule.o > KVERSION = $(shell uname -r) >

LXDE is dead in Debian?

Hello everybody, Can somebody tell me if anybody is engaged in lxde in Debian? If I look on for example libfm sources: http://packages.debian.org/source/sid/libfm it was NMU last time I see down mailing list and VCS-git too. One of uploaders gave up and second did nothing for 2 years. Now I

Re: /etc/hosts and resolving of the local host/domainname - 127.0.0.1 vs. 127.0.1.1

❦ 31 juillet 2013 09:46 CEST, Thomas Goirand  : >> What I'm missing your email is a problem statement explaining what it is >> you're trying to solve. The current implementation has been working >> reliably for years. > > He did wrote it. 127.0.1.1 breaks because some daemon (many, according > t

Re: LXDE is dead in Debian?

On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Mateusz Łukasik wrote: > Can somebody tell me if anybody is engaged in lxde in Debian? If I look on > for example libfm sources: http://packages.debian.org/source/sid/libfm it > was NMU last time I see down mailing list and VCS-git too. One of uploaders > gave up

Re: LXDE is dead in Debian?

Quoting Mateusz Łukasik (2013-07-31 10:45:14) > Can somebody tell me if anybody is engaged in lxde in Debian? If I > look on for example libfm sources: > http://packages.debian.org/source/sid/libfm it was NMU last time I see > down mailing list and VCS-git too. One of uploaders gave up and secon

Re: /etc/hosts and resolving of the local host/domainname - 127.0.0.1 vs. 127.0.1.1

On 2013-07-31 15:46:29 +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 07/31/2013 08:30 AM, Steve Langasek wrote: > > What I'm missing your email is a problem statement explaining what it is > > you're trying to solve. The current implementation has been working > > reliably for years. > > He did wrote it. 127

Re: /etc/hosts and resolving of the local host/domainname - 127.0.0.1 vs. 127.0.1.1

On 2013-07-31 11:00:24 +0200, Vincent Bernat wrote: > ❦ 31 juillet 2013 09:46 CEST, Thomas Goirand  : > > He did wrote it. 127.0.1.1 breaks because some daemon (many, according > > to him) bind only on 127.0.0.1, and not 127.0.0.0/8 as they should. > > How a daemon could bind to 127.0.0.0/8? bind

Bug#718416: general: tty1 is cleared at boot, obscuring a screenfull of important boot messages

Package: general Severity: normal Ever since, I think, wheezy, tty1 is cleared at boot like tty2-6 are. This is bad because it obscures the last screenfull of bootmessages, at least 25 lines, but with framebugger console, a lot(!) more, which is very bad. I’ve got no idea which package is respons

Bug#718416: general: tty1 is cleared at boot, obscuring a screenfull of important boot messages

Am 31.07.2013 14:11, schrieb Thorsten Glaser: > Package: general > Severity: normal > > Ever since, I think, wheezy, tty1 is cleared at boot like tty2-6 are. > This is bad because it obscures the last screenfull of bootmessages, > at least 25 lines, but with framebugger console, a lot(!) more, whi

Re: /etc/hosts and resolving of the local host/domainname - 127.0.0.1 vs. 127.0.1.1

On Tue, 2013-07-30 at 23:09 +0100, Ulrich Dangel wrote: > If you are in a situation with no stable DNS you can use > libnss-myhostname which resolves the hostname to your local configured > IP addresses or 127.0.1.1 & ::1 if no IP address is configured. Yeah... but this doesn't change the "problem"

Re: Missing makefile

On 7/31/2013 2:11 AM, Paul Wise wrote: On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 5:05 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: I'm trying to compile my first module for Debian (right now it doesn't do anything - one step at a time :) ). My makefile is: obj-m = mymodule.o KVERSION = $(shell uname -r) Looks like you are talki

Re: /etc/hosts and resolving of the local host/domainname - 127.0.0.1 vs. 127.0.1.1

On Wed, 2013-07-31 at 01:30 +0100, Steve Langasek wrote: > What I'm missing your email is a problem statement explaining what it is > you're trying to solve. The current implementation has been working > reliably for years. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. You even extracted it yourself from my t

Re: /etc/hosts and resolving of the local host/domainname - 127.0.0.1 vs. 127.0.1.1

On Wed, 2013-07-31 at 12:47 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > Perhaps Thomas actually meant accept any address, then drop those > outside 127.0.0.0/8? That seems really ugly and error prone IMHO. Cheers, Chris. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature

Re: Missing makefile

On 7/31/2013 4:39 AM, Ben Hutchings wrote: On Tue, 2013-07-30 at 23:05 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: Hi, all, I hope this is the right list. I'm trying to compile my first module for Debian (right now it doesn't do anything - one step at a time :) ). My makefile is: obj-m = mymodule.o KVERSION

Re: /etc/hosts and resolving of the local host/domainname - 127.0.0.1 vs. 127.0.1.1

On 07/31/2013 06:47 PM, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2013-07-31 11:00:24 +0200, Vincent Bernat wrote: >> ❦ 31 juillet 2013 09:46 CEST, Thomas Goirand : >>> He did wrote it. 127.0.1.1 breaks because some daemon (many, according >>> to him) bind only on 127.0.0.1, and not 127.0.0.0/8 as they should.

Re: LXDE is dead in Debian?

On 07/31/2013 04:45 PM, Mateusz Łukasik wrote: > Hello everybody, > > Can somebody tell me if anybody is engaged in lxde in Debian? If I look > on for example libfm sources: > http://packages.debian.org/source/sid/libfm it was NMU last time I see > down mailing list and VCS-git too. One of uploade

Bug#718416: general: tty1 is cleared at boot, obscuring a screenfull of important boot messages

On 07/31/2013 08:24 PM, Michael Biebl wrote: > Am 31.07.2013 14:11, schrieb Thorsten Glaser: >> Package: general >> Severity: normal >> >> Ever since, I think, wheezy, tty1 is cleared at boot like tty2-6 are. >> This is bad because it obscures the last screenfull of bootmessages, >> at least 25 lin

Re: /etc/hosts and resolving of the local host/domainname - 127.0.0.1 vs. 127.0.1.1

On Tue, 2013-07-30 at 23:15 +0100, Simon McVittie wrote: > libnss-myhostname is basically this, and is packaged. It tries to return > a public address if possible, only falling back to 127.0.0.2 (upstream), > 127.0.1.1 (as patched in Debian) or ::1 (IPv6) if there's nothing more > suitable. Sounds

Re: Bug#718416: general: tty1 is cleared at boot, obscuring a screenfull of important boot messages

reassign 718416 sysvinit thanks Hi, On Mittwoch, 31. Juli 2013, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > I’ve got no idea which package is responsible for this change, hence > filing against general. $ grep etc/inittab /var/lib/dpkg/info/* /var/lib/dpkg/info/sysvinit.postinst:if [ ! -f /etc/inittab ] /var/lib/d

Processed: Re: Bug#718416: general: tty1 is cleared at boot, obscuring a screenfull of important boot messages

Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > reassign 718416 sysvinit Bug #718416 [general] general: tty1 is cleared at boot, obscuring a screenfull of important boot messages Bug reassigned from package 'general' to 'sysvinit'. Ignoring request to alter found versions of bug #718416 to the

Re: Bug#718365: ITP: Testdrive -- run the daily Ubuntu ISO in a virtual machine

Hi, On Dienstag, 30. Juli 2013, Jackson Doak wrote: > Description : run the daily Ubuntu ISO in a virtual machine > > Testdrive is a tool for running the daily Ubuntu ISO (an any ISOs you > configure it for) in a virtual machine or on live USB. IMHO this description lacks info what virtual

Re: /etc/hosts and resolving of the local host/domainname - 127.0.0.1 vs. 127.0.1.1

On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 07/31/2013 06:47 PM, Vincent Lefevre wrote: >> On 2013-07-31 11:00:24 +0200, Vincent Bernat wrote: >>> ❦ 31 juillet 2013 09:46 CEST, Thomas Goirand : He did wrote it. 127.0.1.1 breaks because some daemon (many, according to hi

Re: Missing makefile

On Wed, 2013-07-31 at 08:57 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 7/31/2013 4:39 AM, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > On Tue, 2013-07-30 at 23:05 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > >> Hi, all, > >> > >> I hope this is the right list. > >> > >> I'm trying to compile my first module for Debian (right now it doesn't >

Re: Missing makefile

On 7/31/2013 10:32 AM, Ben Hutchings wrote: On Wed, 2013-07-31 at 08:57 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 7/31/2013 4:39 AM, Ben Hutchings wrote: On Tue, 2013-07-30 at 23:05 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: Hi, all, I hope this is the right list. I'm trying to compile my first module for Debian (rig

Re: /etc/hosts and resolving of the local host/domainname - 127.0.0.1 vs. 127.0.1.1

On 30-07-13 22:57, Russ Allbery wrote: > Christoph Anton Mitterer writes: > >> - The system hostname (and domainname if any) should ALWAYS be >> resolvable, whether a network is up or not, regardless of which. >> (Assuming that lo is always up, if not, many things break anyway.) > > This princip

Re: Bug#718416: general: tty1 is cleared at boot, obscuring a screenfull of important boot messages

Le mercredi, 31 juillet 2013 15.17:57, Holger Levsen a écrit : > reassign 718416 sysvinit > thanks > > $ grep etc/inittab /var/lib/dpkg/info/* > /var/lib/dpkg/info/sysvinit.postinst:if [ ! -f /etc/inittab ] > /var/lib/dpkg/info/sysvinit.postinst: cp -p > /usr/share/sysvinit/inittab /etc/inittab

Re: Missing makefile

On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 10:53:33AM -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > > And compiling kernel modules is off-topic for debian-user. It > should, however, be on-topic here. Correct, but you are more likely to be directed to debian-mentors. Try there. -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will ha

Bug#718429: ITP: patsy -- statistical models in Python using symbolic formulas

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Yaroslav Halchenko * Package name: patsy Version : 0.1.0 Upstream Author : Nathaniel J. Smith * URL : http://github.com/pydata/patsy * License : BSD-2 Programming Lang: Python Description : statistical models in

Status of deb(5) format support in Debian

Hi! Due to bug 718295, and in preparation to add non-gzip compression support for control.tar, I've tried to get an accurate view of the current deb(5) format support in software present in Debian. The resulting table looks pretty bad: Please he

Re: Status of deb(5) format support in Debian

On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 06:24:32PM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: > Due to bug 718295, and in preparation to add non-gzip compression > support for control.tar, I've tried to get an accurate view of the > current deb(5) format support in software present in Debian. The > resulting table looks pretty b

Re: Missing makefile

On 7/31/2013 11:09 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 10:53:33AM -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: And compiling kernel modules is off-topic for debian-user. It should, however, be on-topic here. Correct, but you are more likely to be directed to debian-mentors. Try there. Chri

Re: LXDE is dead in Debian?

On 31.07.2013 at 11:17 Paul Wise wrote: LXDE upstream is merging with RazorQt upstream (also in Debian) so there doesn't seem much point in adopting the LXDE GTK packages in Debian right now. Once the upstream situation is sorted out they may either get removed or updated, depending on the name

Re: Requesting DDs who want to help greet new contributors

I already do similar stuff but without the benefit of the tool you are working on, just based on mailing list mails from folks asking how to get involved or what I remember of folks activities. I might be interested to get more involved here but that would probably need to be later in the year. --

Re: Missing makefile

On Wed, 2013-07-31 at 10:53 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > And compiling kernel modules is off-topic for debian-user. It should, > however, be on-topic here. Not really, although I realise the longer description on https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/ could lead you to that conclusion. As the s

Re: best policies for third party Debian packaging and get-orig-source target

Hi Andreas, Thank you for your kind message, and for your interest. On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:06:38 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > Hi Faheem, > > I'm really happy that I asked back! ;-) > > On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 08:03:19AM +, Faheem Mitha wrote: >> On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:01:43 +0200, Andreas T

Re: Missing makefile

On 7/31/2013 2:39 PM, Adam D. Barratt wrote: On Wed, 2013-07-31 at 10:53 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: And compiling kernel modules is off-topic for debian-user. It should, however, be on-topic here. Not really, although I realise the longer description on https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/

Re: Missing makefile

On Wed, 2013-07-31 at 15:05 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 7/31/2013 2:39 PM, Adam D. Barratt wrote: > > On Wed, 2013-07-31 at 10:53 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > >> And compiling kernel modules is off-topic for debian-user. It should, > >> however, be on-topic here. > > > > Not really, although

Re: Missing makefile

On 7/31/2013 3:46 PM, Ben Hutchings wrote: On Wed, 2013-07-31 at 15:05 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 7/31/2013 2:39 PM, Adam D. Barratt wrote: On Wed, 2013-07-31 at 10:53 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: And compiling kernel modules is off-topic for debian-user. It should, however, be on-topic he

Re: Missing makefile

On 7/31/2013 3:46 PM, Ben Hutchings wrote: On Wed, 2013-07-31 at 15:05 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 7/31/2013 2:39 PM, Adam D. Barratt wrote: On Wed, 2013-07-31 at 10:53 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: And compiling kernel modules is off-topic for debian-user. It should, however, be on-topic he

Re: Status of deb(5) format support in Debian

On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 06:24:32PM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: >> Due to bug 718295, and in preparation to add non-gzip compression >> support for control.tar, I've tried to get an accurate view of the >> current deb(5) format support in

Re: best policies for third party Debian packaging and get-orig-source target

Hi Faheem, On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 06:41:59PM +, Faheem Mitha wrote: > > > > The mailing list archive shows that in 2008 you had contributed to the a > > plink related thread - so you might know the Debian Med project. In > > case you are unsure you might probably want to have a look at the l

Re: On accepting pre-generated doc from upstream

On Tuesday 23 July 2013 14:05:41 Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:07:59PM -0300, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: > > On Thursday 18 July 2013 14:45:38 Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > [snip] > > > > > - Option 3: > > > > > > (Note: I'm assuming you are generatin

Re: /etc/hosts and resolving of the local host/domainname - 127.0.0.1 vs. 127.0.1.1

> On Wed, 2013-07-31 at 01:30 +0100, Steve Langasek wrote: > > That's correct. If you want to talk to a loopback-only service, > > you should be connecting to 'localhost', *not* to the hostname. [Christoph Anton Mitterer] > Well why not? Imagine that one server in a cluster serves a debian > pac

Re: Missing makefile

On 31-07-13 22:09, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > Ben, > > I should also add - I doubt there are many people trying to create new > kernel modules for Debian which aren't being merged into the upstream > kernel, There are plenty of out-of-tree modules; that isn't very special. This should Just Work(TM),

Re: best policies for third party Debian packaging and get-orig-source target

Le Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 10:34:37PM +0200, Andreas Tille a écrit : > > On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 06:41:59PM +, Faheem Mitha wrote: > > > I'm a little puzzled why ggplot2 is being packaged by Debian > > Med. It is a general purpose R graphing package. > What I currently can see from the status

Bug#718455: ITP: hypirion-io-clojure -- I/O redirection, signal handling, and console utilities

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Eugenio Cano-Manuel Mendoza" * Package name: hypirion-io-clojure Version : 0.3.1 Upstream Author : Jean Niklas L'orange * URL : http://www.hypirion.com/ * License : EPL-1.0 Programming Lang: Java, Clojure Descriptio

Bug#718461: ITP: cgrand-regex-clojure -- Composable regexes for Clojure

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Eugenio Cano-Manuel Mendoza" * Package name: cgrand-regex-clojure Version : 1.1.0 Upstream Author : Christophe Grand * URL : https://github.com/cgrand/regex * License : EPL-1.0 Programming Lang: Java, Clojure Descri

Bug#718464: ITP: tools-cli-clojure -- command line argument parser for Clojure

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Eugenio Cano-Manuel Mendoza" * Package name: tools-cli-clojure Version : 0.2.2 Upstream Author : Gareth Jones * URL : https://github.com/clojure/tools.cli * License : EPL-1.0 Programming Lang: Java, Clojure Descript

Re: Requesting DDs who want to help greet new contributors

On Wed, 31 Jul 2013, Paul Wise wrote: I already do similar stuff but without the benefit of the tool you are working on, just based on mailing list mails from folks asking how to get involved or what I remember of folks activities. I might be interested to get more involved here but that would

Re: Requesting DDs who want to help greet new contributors

On Wed, 31 Jul 2013, Nicolas Guilbert wrote: On Tuesday, July 30, 2013 12:00:18 PM Asheesh Laroia wrote: Hi all Debianites, I've been inspired by the "Developer Advisory Team" in another project [1], and so I want to create a similar team within Debian. In this email, first I'll summarize what