Re: No native packages?

2013-01-28 Thread Gergely Nagy
Wouter Verhelst writes: > On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 07:16:44PM +0100, Jakub Wilk wrote: >> Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote on his blog[0]: >> >> >Generally if software is useful in Debian Project it can be useful >> >for other debian-like and unlike projects. In particular native >> >packages do not offer

Re: No native packages?

2013-01-28 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
On 27 January 2013 18:32, Gergely Nagy wrote: > Jakub Wilk writes: > >> Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote on his blog[0]: >> >>> Generally if software is useful in Debian Project it can be useful >>> for other debian-like and unlike projects. In particular native >>> packages do not offer the same patching

pidstat

2013-01-28 Thread vangelis mouhtsis
Dear Developers, How this package, named pidstat works on Debian? or i'm looking for ghosts? http://linuxaria.com/howto/linux-terminal-pidstat-know-everything-about-your-processes?lang=en Thanks in advance gnugr --

Re: pidstat

2013-01-28 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le 28/01/2013 10:47, vangelis mouhtsis a écrit : > Dear Developers, > How this package, named _pidstat _works on Debian? or i'm looking for > ghosts? > > http://linuxaria.com/howto/linux-terminal-pidstat-know-everything-about-your-processes?lang=en > > Thanks in advance > gnugr > -- Hi, this i

Re: screen says "Bad tty" if /dev/console is a symlink

2013-01-28 Thread Игорь Пашев
So, is it ok? Index: screen/tty.sh === --- screen.orig/tty.sh 2013-01-27 02:16:57.916935245 + +++ screen/tty.sh 2013-01-27 02:33:12.831241123 + @@ -1506,11 +1506,21 @@ char *tty; { struct stat st; + char * real; +

Bug#699158: ITP: squishyball -- audio sample comparison testing tool

2013-01-28 Thread Jon Dowland
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jon Dowland * Package name: squishyball Version : 0.1~svn18785 Upstream Author : Monty * URL : http://svn.xiph.org/trunk/squishyball/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C Description : audio sample comparison test

Re: No native packages?

2013-01-28 Thread Philip Hands
Gergely Nagy writes: ... > We have tools that make it easy to create upstream tarballs from an SCM > repo. Git has git archive, gitpkg and possibly other tools make it very > easy to create upstream tarballs: so much so, that it means nothing more > than tagging the repo properly. > > I've been us

tool to create debian/copyright files paragraphs?

2013-01-28 Thread Thomas Koch
Hi, I have a package (closure-compiler[1]) with files copyrighted by six different parties unsystematically distributed over a large source tree. Has anybody already written a tool to automatically create the files section of the debian/copyright file? The tool should try to keep the files list

Re: tool to create debian/copyright files paragraphs?

2013-01-28 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 01/28/2013 12:58 PM, Thomas Koch wrote: I have a package (closure-compiler[1]) with files copyrighted by six different parties unsystematically distributed over a large source tree. Has anybody already written a tool to automatically create the files section of the debian/copyright file? The

Re: tool to create debian/copyright files paragraphs?

2013-01-28 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 7:58 PM, Thomas Koch wrote: > I have a package (closure-compiler[1]) with files copyrighted by six different > parties unsystematically distributed over a large source tree. > > Has anybody already written a tool to automatically create the files section > of the debian/cop

Re: tool to create debian/copyright files paragraphs?

2013-01-28 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
John Paul Adrian Glaubitz writes: >> Has anybody already written a tool to automatically create the files section >> of the debian/copyright file? The tool should try to keep the files list >> short >> by using wildcards. http://lindi.iki.fi/lindi/git/git-copyright-scan.git/ Normal invocation:

Re: No native packages?

2013-01-28 Thread Paul Wise
On the other side of the fence are folks who believe in the separation between upstream and Debian so much that they refuse to package software they are upstream for (I'm not among them, but I know they exist). -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-de

Re: tool to create debian/copyright files paragraphs?

2013-01-28 Thread Jérémy Lal
On 28/01/2013 13:04, Paul Wise wrote: > licensecheck is obviously not as complete as something like fossology Fossology seems to have been removed because it was un-maintained, (ITP #483297 then RoQA #656591 at version 1.1.0). But upstream looks (very) active and released version 2.1.0 three month

Re: tool to create debian/copyright files paragraphs?

2013-01-28 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, 2013-01-28 at 13:28 +0100, Jérémy Lal wrote: > Fossology seems to have been removed because it was un-maintained, > (ITP #483297 then RoQA #656591 at version 1.1.0). > But upstream looks (very) active and released version 2.1.0 three months ago. > Paul, do you think it is worth bringing it

examples for better-not-native packages was: No native packages?

2013-01-28 Thread Thomas Koch
Let's start to collect examples of package which we might should rather not be native. This might make the discussion easier. - maven-repo-helper, maven-debian-helper both packages contain a lot of logic that would also be usefull for other distributions, e.g. fedora. However the code needs a

Re: tool to create debian/copyright files paragraphs?

2013-01-28 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Mon, 2013-01-28 at 14:17 +0200, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: > John Paul Adrian Glaubitz writes: > >> Has anybody already written a tool to automatically create the files > >> section > >> of the debian/copyright file? The tool should try to keep the files list > >> short > >> by using wildcar

Re: No native packages?

2013-01-28 Thread Gergely Nagy
Philip Hands writes: > Gergely Nagy writes: > ... >> We have tools that make it easy to create upstream tarballs from an SCM >> repo. Git has git archive, gitpkg and possibly other tools make it very >> easy to create upstream tarballs: so much so, that it means nothing more >> than tagging the

Re: tool to create debian/copyright files paragraphs?

2013-01-28 Thread Roland Mas
Thomas Koch, 2013-01-28 12:58:43 +0100 : > Hi, > > I have a package (closure-compiler[1]) with files copyrighted by six > different > parties unsystematically distributed over a large source tree. > > Has anybody already written a tool to automatically create the files section > of the debian/c

Re: screen says "Bad tty" if /dev/console is a symlink

2013-01-28 Thread Guillem Jover
On Mon, 2013-01-28 at 14:17:13 +0400, Игорь Пашев wrote: > So, is it ok? > > Index: screen/tty.sh > === > --- screen.orig/tty.sh2013-01-27 02:16:57.916935245 + > +++ screen/tty.sh 2013-01-27 02:33:12.831241123 + >

Re: tool to create debian/copyright files paragraphs?

2013-01-28 Thread Chow Loong Jin
On 28/01/2013 20:04, Paul Wise wrote: > licensecheck --copyright -r `find -type f` | > /usr/lib/cdbs/licensecheck2dep5 > debian/copyright You don't need the the `find...` bit in there. "-r" is recursive, so just specifying "." is good enough. licensecheck2dep5 is actually pretty good. I use it to

Bug#699175: ITP: gdb-heap -- gdb extension to debug dynamic memory allocation problems

2013-01-28 Thread Colin Watson
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Colin Watson * Package name: gdb-heap Version : 0.5 Upstream Author : David Malcolm * URL : https://fedorahosted.org/gdb-heap/ * License : LGPLv2.1, Python Programming Lang: Python Description : gdb extension to

Re: No native packages?

2013-01-28 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Gergely Nagy > No, not really. I don't really care what tools one uses, as long as the > result is reasonably easy *and* reliable to work with. Since VCS can be > stale, and quite often does not include neither NMUs, nor backports, > that fails the reliable requirement. It sounds like you are

Re: No native packages?

2013-01-28 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Gergely Nagy balabit.hu> writes: > There's also the case where upstream and debian maintainer are the same > *now*, but that can change anytime. Case in point: there's a package[1] That’s actually (one of) the reasons why I’m not using native packages for the software I’m upstream of, or working

Re: No native packages?

2013-01-28 Thread Russ Allbery
Tollef Fog Heen writes: > ]] Gergely Nagy >> No, not really. I don't really care what tools one uses, as long as the >> result is reasonably easy *and* reliable to work with. Since VCS can be >> stale, and quite often does not include neither NMUs, nor backports, >> that fails the reliable requi

Re: No native packages?

2013-01-28 Thread Roger Leigh
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 09:36:45AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Tollef Fog Heen writes: > > ]] Gergely Nagy > > >> No, not really. I don't really care what tools one uses, as long as the > >> result is reasonably easy *and* reliable to work with. Since VCS can be > >> stale, and quite often does

Re: No native packages?

2013-01-28 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
On 28 January 2013 18:17, Roger Leigh wrote: > On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 09:36:45AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: >> Tollef Fog Heen writes: >> > ]] Gergely Nagy >> >> >> No, not really. I don't really care what tools one uses, as long as the >> >> result is reasonably easy *and* reliable to work with

Re: No native packages?

2013-01-28 Thread Russ Allbery
Roger Leigh writes: > Maybe I forgot the answer, but at least in terms of git and the dpkg 3.0 > (git) format, why can't we simply make use of shallow cloning? We only > distribute a single revision, the one we're building, and if the history > is polluted for whatever reason, it has no impact--

Re: No native packages?

2013-01-28 Thread Julien Cristau
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 18:17:20 +, Roger Leigh wrote: > On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 09:36:45AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > > Tollef Fog Heen writes: > > > ]] Gergely Nagy > > > > >> No, not really. I don't really care what tools one uses, as long as the > > >> result is reasonably easy *and*

Re: tool to create debian/copyright files paragraphs?

2013-01-28 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Montag, 28. Januar 2013, Ben Hutchings wrote: > Do not assume that authors are copyright holders. this(!), and you also don't have to repeat detailed copyright ownership information in debian/copyright - it's fine if that information is scattered along these files itself, as long as thes

Re: No native packages?

2013-01-28 Thread Craig Small
On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 07:16:44PM +0100, Jakub Wilk wrote: > I am guilty myself of maintaining a native package (and another one > is waiting in NEW). However, I will be happy to switch to a > non-native format once I figure out a releasing work-flow that is > convenient for me. Changing from nati

Re: Linux Future

2013-01-28 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Adam Borowski may or may not have written... [snip] > No, it's something in the middle. Those who dislike systemd say it > exaggerates systemd's claimed benefits, while Joss considers it an attack > as well. Let's no go there for now. > > What makes this article worth reading is t

Re: No native packages?

2013-01-28 Thread Benjamin Drung
Am Dienstag, den 29.01.2013, 08:49 +1100 schrieb Craig Small: > On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 07:16:44PM +0100, Jakub Wilk wrote: > > I am guilty myself of maintaining a native package (and another one > > is waiting in NEW). However, I will be happy to switch to a > > non-native format once I figure out

Re: Go (golang) packaging, part 2

2013-01-28 Thread Hilko Bengen
* Michael Stapelberg: > Go libraries (not binaries!) should be present in Debian _only_ for > the purpose of building Debian binary packages. They should not be > used directly for Go development¹. This is a pity for those of us who don't really subscribe to "get everything from github as needed"

Re: No native packages?

2013-01-28 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Benjamin Drung (28/01/2013): > Other distributions gain from your extra work. Image the > opposite. You want to package a software that is only available in a > downstream distribution (e.g. Ubuntu or Linux Mint). Do you prefer > to have a non-native format or a native format? “upstream first” an

Re: hypothesis about the trouble I had with libc6 and multilib: extraneous libc6-amd64

2013-01-28 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 10:11:50AM -0600, Paul Johnson wrote: > > $ dpkg -l | grep libc6 > ii libc6:amd64 2.13-37 amd64 > ii libc6:i3862.13-37 i386 > ii libc6-amd64 2.13-37 i386 > ii libc6-i3862.13-37 amd64 So you basicly have libc6 installed 4 times, twice for i386 and twice

Re: No native packages?

2013-01-28 Thread Craig Small
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 11:59:56PM +0100, Benjamin Drung wrote: > Other distributions gain from your extra work. Image the opposite. You > want to package a software that is only available in a downstream > distribution (e.g. Ubuntu or Linux Mint). Do you prefer to have a > non-native format or a n

Re: No native packages?

2013-01-28 Thread Russ Allbery
Benjamin Drung writes: > Other distributions gain from your extra work. Image the opposite. You > want to package a software that is only available in a downstream > distribution (e.g. Ubuntu or Linux Mint). Do you prefer to have a > non-native format or a native format? I'm not sure I see how i

Re: No native packages?

2013-01-28 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 09:44:18AM +0100, Gergely Nagy wrote: > Wouter Verhelst writes: > > > On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 07:16:44PM +0100, Jakub Wilk wrote: > >> Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote on his blog[0]: > >> > >> >Generally if software is useful in Debian Project it can be useful > >> >for other debi

Bug#699209: ITP: ibus-libthai -- Thai input method engine for IBus based on LibThai

2013-01-28 Thread Theppitak Karoonboonyanan
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Theppitak Karoonboonyanan * Package name: ibus-libthai Version : (to be released from http://linux.thai.net/svn/software/ibus-libthai/trunk) Upstream Author : Theppitak Karoonboonyanan * URL : http://linux.thai.net/projects/lib

Re: No native packages?

2013-01-28 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Benjamin Drung] > Image the opposite. You want to package a software that is only > available in a downstream distribution (e.g. Ubuntu or Linux > Mint). Do you prefer to have a non-native format or a native format? If their native format is an archive in gzipped tar file format, like ours is, I

Re: No native packages?

2013-01-28 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Russ Allbery > Tollef Fog Heen writes: > > ]] Gergely Nagy > > >> No, not really. I don't really care what tools one uses, as long as the > >> result is reasonably easy *and* reliable to work with. Since VCS can be > >> stale, and quite often does not include neither NMUs, nor backports, >

Re: Go (golang) packaging, part 2

2013-01-28 Thread Michael Stapelberg
Hi Hilko, Hilko Bengen writes: > This is a pity for those of us who don't really subscribe to "get > everything from github as needed" model of distributing software. Yes, but at the same time, it makes Go much more consistent across multiple platforms. We should tackle one issue at a time. I sup

wheezy update-grub error

2013-01-28 Thread Oleg
Hello. I have the next error: ~# update-grub Searching for GRUB installation directory ... found: /boot/grub Searching for default file ... Generating /boot/grub/default file and setting the default boot entry to 0 entry not specified. Usage: grub-set-default [OPTION] entry Set the default