Re: debian mate

2012-11-22 Thread Michael Schmitt
Am 22.11.2012 08:37, schrieb Josselin Mouette: Le jeudi 22 novembre 2012 à 07:21 +0100, Michael Schmitt a écrit : Now I see how that works for the gnome folks! *lol* Really, if the general gnome attitude is "all complaints are dumb and should be ignored, what we do is the holly grail" then... P

Re: release goal for jessie! (Re: Source-only uploads (was: procenv_0.9-1_source.changes REJECTED)

2012-11-22 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 09:21:19PM +0100, Didier Raboud wrote: > What is yet unclear is if we want to build all (as in arch:any+all) or all > (as > in arch:any) packages on buildds. Are there any reasons to not built arch:all on buildds aside from technical problems? -- WBR, wRAR signature.as

Fwd: Re: ITP: qmapcontrol -- Qt/Qtopia widget for using map data

2012-11-22 Thread Michael Olberg
Original Message Subject: Re: ITP: qmapcontrol -- Qt/Qtopia widget for using map data Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 09:33:46 +0100 From: Ralf Treinen To: Michael Olberg Hi Michael, On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 09:36:24AM +0100, Michael Olberg wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * P

Re: debian mate

2012-11-22 Thread Philipp Kern
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 12:35:51AM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Are you kidding me? The Bonobo interface in gnome-panel 2.x is a > horrible PITA. And this is not about reinventing the wheel, it’s basic > porting work that anyone with basic C and autotools knowledge can do. The "we link against

Re: debian mate

2012-11-22 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 22 novembre 2012 à 09:29 +0100, Michael Schmitt a écrit : > > Please read http://theoatmeal.com/comics/making_things (especially the > > last part about comments). It completely applies here. > Just one thing, no, that comic does not explain how a fruitful > relationship between $PROJEC

Re: Gentoo guys starting a fork of udev

2012-11-22 Thread Andrej N. Gritsenko
Hello! Gergely Nagy has written on Thursday, 22 November, at 0:05: >If you read my mail further, your question is answered there. But I'll >repeat it, for good measures: no, it does not mean that. I only means >that your syslogd of choice is getting its input from >/run/systemd/journal/syslog

Re: debian mate

2012-11-22 Thread Ian Jackson
Michael Schmitt writes ("Re: debian mate"): > Am 21.11.2012 10:30, schrieb Neil Williams: > > As part of the Debian release team it is Adam's call to make. He's > > declared his decision which is fully in line with the freeze policy and > > that's that. There is no point even thinking about MATE in

Re: debian mate

2012-11-22 Thread Jon Dowland
On 22 Nov 2012, at 15:57, Ian Jackson wrote: > So if you don't like that decision it should be escalated to the > Technical Committee. I'm surprised that *anyone* can refer issues to tech ctte. Has a non DD ever submitted something worthwhile? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@l

Re: debian mate

2012-11-22 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Jon Dowland , 2012-11-22, 18:33: So if you don't like that decision it should be escalated to the Technical Committee. I'm surprised that *anyone* can refer issues to tech ctte. I'm surprised you're surprised. Has a non DD ever submitted something worthwhile? #587886 (lilo maintainership

Bug#693998: ITP: linux-minidisc -- Free software for accessing NetMD and HiMD MiniDisc devices

2012-11-22 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz * Package name: linux-minidisc Version : 0.9.0 Upstream Author : linux-minidisc project * URL : https://wiki.physik.fu-berlin.de/linux-minidisc * License : GPLv2, LGPLv2.1 Programming Lang: C,

Re: Re: debian mate

2012-11-22 Thread Stefano Karapetsas
> GNOME Classic is just as featureful and usable as GNOME Shell, > which makes it very suitable for a default desktop on non-3D machines. But GNOME Fallback is going to be dropped soon. And the next GNOME release, also if it will support a classic session with extensions, is not suitable in old

Re: Re: debian mate

2012-11-22 Thread Svante Signell
On Thu, 2012-11-22 at 23:51 +0100, Stefano Karapetsas wrote: > > GNOME Classic is just as featureful and usable as GNOME Shell, > > which makes it very suitable for a default desktop on non-3D machines. > > But GNOME Fallback is going to be dropped soon. And the next GNOME > release, also if it

Re: debian mate

2012-11-22 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On Nov 23, 2012, at 12:41 AM, Svante Signell wrote: > On Thu, 2012-11-22 at 23:51 +0100, Stefano Karapetsas wrote: >>> GNOME Classic is just as featureful and usable as GNOME Shell, >>> which makes it very suitable for a default desktop on non-3D machines. >> >> But GNOME Fallback is going to be

Work-needing packages report for Nov 23, 2012

2012-11-22 Thread wnpp
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the last week. Total number of orphaned packages: 487 (new: 1) Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 138 (new: 1) Total number of packages request

Re: Bug#693998: ITP: linux-minidisc -- Free software for accessing NetMD and HiMD MiniDisc devices

2012-11-22 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 3:16 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > * Package name: linux-minidisc Thats a strange name considering it builds and runs on MacOS, Windows, Linux, FreeBSD and Haiku. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ.

Re: Gentoo guys starting a fork of udev

2012-11-22 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Kevin Toppins may or may not have written... > On 19 November 2012 04:23, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz > wrote: [snip] >> And thirdly, if you have very large file systems (we have a 30TB hardware >> raid here, for example), filesystem checks can take forever. If you >> reboot such a se

Re: Gentoo guys starting a fork of udev

2012-11-22 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that John Paul Adrian Glaubitz may or may not have written... [snip] > Even the claims of the Gentoo people about the separate /usr partition > are unjustified [4]. > [4] http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/separate-usr-is-broken From that page: “There is no way to reliably br

Re: History of Debian bootstrapping/porting efforts

2012-11-22 Thread peter green
Since yesterday, my tools can now finally turn the whole dependency graph Does this "whole dependency graph" include the implicit build-dependency every package has on build-essential? The above case for example has no alternative solution as the cycle is of length two and has no other way of

Bug#694025: ITP: oz -- installing guest OSs with only minimal input the user

2012-11-22 Thread Hideki Yamane
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Hideki Yamane X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian-cl...@lists.debian.org Package name: oz Version: 0.9.0 Upstream Author: Chris Lalancette URL: http://aeolusproject.org/oz.html License: LGPL-2.1

Bug#694026: ITP: psphere -- Python bindings for the vSphere Web Services SDK

2012-11-22 Thread Hideki Yamane
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Hideki Yamane X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian-cl...@lists.debian.org Package name: psphere Version: 0.5.1 Upstream Author: Jonathan Kinred URL: https://github.com/jkinred/psphere License: Apache-2.0

Bug#694029: ITP: hail -- language-neutral, OS-neutral, highly available distributed computing services

2012-11-22 Thread Hideki Yamane
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Hideki Yamane X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian-cl...@lists.debian.org Package name: hail (cld / chunkd / libhail0 / libhail-doc) Version: 0.8+0.10.gf9c5b967 Upstream Author: 2009-2011 Pete Zaitcev 2005-2011 Je

Bug#694033: ITP: iwhd -- store cloud images and upload them to certain cloud providers

2012-11-22 Thread Hideki Yamane
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Hideki Yamane X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian-cl...@lists.debian.org Package name: iwhd Version: 1.6 Upstream Author: Jeff Darcy Jim Meyering Pete Zaitcev Chris Lalancette

Bug#694034: ITP: imagefactory -- System image generation tool for various Virtual Machine environment

2012-11-22 Thread Hideki Yamane
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Hideki Yamane X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian-cl...@lists.debian.org Package name: imagefactory Version: 1.1.2 Upstream Author: Steve Loranz Ian McLeod URL: http://www.aeolusproject.org/imagefact

Re: release goal for jessie! (Re: Source-only uploads (was: procenv_0.9-1_source.changes REJECTED)

2012-11-22 Thread YunQiang Su
you always need to build for one arch and test, then why not upload it? On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 4:33 PM, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 09:21:19PM +0100, Didier Raboud wrote: > > What is yet unclear is if we want to build all (as in arch:any+all) or > all (as > > in arch:an

Re: release goal for jessie! (Re: Source-only uploads (was: procenv_0.9-1_source.changes REJECTED)

2012-11-22 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 03:06:22PM +0800, YunQiang Su wrote: > you always need to build for one arch and test, then why not upload it? How is that related to my question? Also, please don't top-post and dont send me copies. > On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 4:33 PM, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > > > On We

Re: Re: debian mate

2012-11-22 Thread Jon Dowland
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 11:51:06PM +0100, Stefano Karapetsas wrote: > > GNOME Classic is just as featureful and usable as GNOME Shell, > > which makes it very suitable for a default desktop on non-3D machines. > > But GNOME Fallback is going to be dropped soon. I'm surprised nobody has talked abo

Re: Gentoo guys starting a fork of udev

2012-11-22 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 03:05:50AM +, Darren Salt wrote: > [snip] > > Even the claims of the Gentoo people about the separate /usr partition > > are unjustified [4]. > > > [4] http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/separate-usr-is-broken > > From that page: > > “There is no way to reli