Re: [CTTE #681834] network-manager as Recommends or Depends

2012-09-18 Thread Fabian Greffrath
Am 17.09.2012 18:54, schrieb Don Armstrong: 7. The Technical Committee overrules the decision of the gnome-core metapackage maintainers. The dependency from gnome-core to network-manager-gnome should be downgraded to Recommends. Maybe the attached patch should also get applied against

Re: mass bug filing about packages manipulating/deleting shipped files

2012-09-18 Thread Andreas Beckmann
Just to give a short impression what we can find here: uim-canna_1:1.8.1-2, uim-prime_1:1.8.1-2 /etc/uim/installed-modules.scm /etc/uim/loader.scm mono-xsp2_2.10-2.1 /etc/default/mono-xsp2 mirror_2.9-62 /usr/share/doc/mirror/mirror.txt.gz /usr/share/doc/mirror/html/mirror-ref.html /usr

Re: mass bug filing about packages manipulating/deleting shipped files

2012-09-18 Thread Andreas Beckmann
On 2012-09-18 09:30, Andreas Beckmann wrote: > Just to give a short impression what we can find here: and some more bts, that's output from debsums -a -c, so the files listed have a md5sum mismatch (or are missing if noted) ilithuanian_1.2.1-3 /var/lib/ispell/lietuviu.hash /var/lib/ispell/li

Creating and use Virtual IP Interfaces

2012-09-18 Thread Pietro Paolini
Hi all, I am not really sure this is the correct newsletter for my question, if not please apologize me and suggest me a right newsletter, thanks. My goal is to simulate more than one IP interface using just a physical interface, for do that I tried using this alias Ifconfing ethX:1 But wh

Re: CD1 without a network mirror isn't sufficient to install a full desktop environment

2012-09-18 Thread Serge
2012/9/11 Jon Dowland wrote: > I feel that the decision to change from GNOME to something else, on the > basis of complaints about GNOME 3, should only be considered after we've > actually released with at least one version of GNOME 3. There's no need to walk through the minefield, it's already d

Re: packaging a tiny/trivial blob in a DFSG-clean way?

2012-09-18 Thread Ian Jackson
Marco d'Itri writes ("Re: packaging a tiny/trivial blob in a DFSG-clean way?"): > This is an old issue which is well established, widely agreed and > does not really need to be discussed again. The facts are: > - if the source and the tools to build them are in Debian, then > there is no DFSG i

Re: mass bug filing about packages manipulating/deleting shipped files

2012-09-18 Thread Ian Jackson
Andreas Beckmann writes ("mass bug filing about packages manipulating/deleting shipped files"): > So far I have seen these problems: > * package modifies a conffile it ships > * package modifies a non-conffile it ships > * package deletes a (conf)file it ships > * (maybe all these bad things on fi

Re: Handling /etc/modprobe.d and module load order

2012-09-18 Thread Ian Jackson
Ben Hutchings writes ("Re: Handling /etc/modprobe.d and module load order"): > On Mon, 2012-09-17 at 16:46 +, Amit wrote: > > It is a driver for a PIC microcontroller board. I was using usbhid but > > there was a bug that I couldn't work around. > > A bug in which? I assume a bug in the board

Re: how to handle partial upgrade problems?

2012-09-18 Thread Ian Jackson
Andreas Beckmann writes ("how to handle partial upgrade problems?"): > I wanted to write a long and technical email about this subject ... and > started over, doing it this way: Well done for this work by the way. Now, on to the substance: > I started looking for partial upgrade problems some ti

Re: [CTTE #681834] network-manager as Recommends or Depends

2012-09-18 Thread Ian Jackson
Fabian Greffrath writes ("Re: [CTTE #681834] network-manager as Recommends or Depends"): > Am 17.09.2012 18:54, schrieb Don Armstrong: > > 7. The Technical Committee overrules the decision of the gnome-core > > metapackage maintainers. The dependency from gnome-core to > > network-manager

Re: [Piuparts-devel] how to handle partial upgrade problems?

2012-09-18 Thread Andreas Beckmann
On 2012-09-18 12:46, Ian Jackson wrote: > And yes, this leaves pkg1 missing files. This sequence of actions is > not supported. Ie, Don't Do That Then; I think that isn't a bug. > > If you think it is a bug and want to support this sequence of user > actions then I guess the Breaks is an answer.

Re: mass bug filing about packages manipulating/deleting shipped files

2012-09-18 Thread Agustin Martin
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 09:53:37AM +0200, Andreas Beckmann wrote: > On 2012-09-18 09:30, Andreas Beckmann wrote: > > Just to give a short impression what we can find here: > > and some more > > bts, that's output from debsums -a -c, so the files listed have > a md5sum mismatch (or are missing if

Re: Radeon KMS without non-free firmware (was: Towards d-i wheezy beta 3)

2012-09-18 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 17 septembre 2012 à 17:47 +0200, Karsten Merker a écrit : > Systems _not_ working without firmware: > === > > * Wrestler (Radeon HD 6310), part of the AMD E-350 APU > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=642389#5 > http://bugs.deb

Bug#688026: ITP: python-librabbitmq -- Python AMQP Client using the rabbitmq-c library

2012-09-18 Thread Michael Fladischer
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Michael Fladischer -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Package name: python-librabbitmq Version : 0.9.9 Upstream Author : Ask Solem * URL : http://github.com/celery/librabbitmq * License : MPL Programming

Re: CD1 without a network mirror isn't sufficient to install a full desktop environment

2012-09-18 Thread Karl Goetz
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012, 19:45:36 EST, Serge wrote: > 2012/9/11 Jon Dowland wrote: > > > I feel that the decision to change from GNOME to something else, on the > > basis of complaints about GNOME 3, should only be considered after > > we've actually released with at least one version of GNOME 3. >

Re: CD1 without a network mirror isn't sufficient to install a full desktop environment

2012-09-18 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 12:45:36PM +0300, Serge wrote: > There's no need to walk through the minefield, it's already done. > Fedora lost more than half of the user base with the Fedora 15 > release (GNOME3 and systemd). [citation-needed] > They now bring GNOME2 back. [1] :) > > [1] https://fedor

Re: Creating and use Virtual IP Interfaces

2012-09-18 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 09:33:41AM +, Pietro Paolini wrote: > I am not really sure this is the correct newsletter for my question, if not > please apologize me and suggest me a right newsletter, thanks. It isn't - please try debian-user: -- To UNSU

Re: CD1 without a network mirror isn't sufficient to install a full desktop environment

2012-09-18 Thread Matthias Klumpp
GNOME is seeking people to develop the GNOME-Panel - if MATE developers want a classical desktop environment based on modern technologies, they should develop the GNOME-Panel instead of forking unmaintained and outdated technology like Bonobo or GConf. I don't consider MATE to be future-proof. If y

Bug#688046: ITP: out -- utility for producing UTF-8 output to standard streams and terminal.

2012-09-18 Thread James
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: James Hunt * Package name: out Version : 0.0.1 Upstream Author : James Hunt * URL : https://code.launchpad.net/~jamesodhunt/+junk/out * License : GPL-3.0+ Programming Lang: C Description : Utility for producing U

Re: Handling /etc/modprobe.d and module load order

2012-09-18 Thread Amit
Ian Jackson chiark.greenend.org.uk> writes: > > Ben Hutchings writes ("Re: Handling /etc/modprobe.d and module load order"): > > On Mon, 2012-09-17 at 16:46 +, Amit wrote: > > > It is a driver for a PIC microcontroller board. I was using usbhid but > > > there was a bug that I couldn't work

Re: Handling /etc/modprobe.d and module load order

2012-09-18 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Sep 18, Amit wrote: > This is main problem. Both the drivers try and control the device. The > only work around I could come up with was to pass a usbhid quirks to > ignore this specific board and then load the custom driver. Actually there is a different solution: # stop handling the device

Re: Bug#688046: ITP: out -- utility for producing UTF-8 output to standard streams and terminal.

2012-09-18 Thread Neil Williams
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 11:00:46 +0100 "James" wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: James Hunt > > * Package name: out Terrible choice of name - utf8-out ? > Command-line tool that can produce UTF-8 (Unicode) strings in various ways and > direct them to standard output, standa

Re: Bug#688046: ITP: out -- utility for producing UTF-8 output to standard streams and terminal.

2012-09-18 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 07:04:13PM +0100, Neil Williams wrote: > On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 11:00:46 +0100 > "James" wrote: > > > Package: wnpp > > Severity: wishlist > > Owner: James Hunt > > > > * Package name: out > > Terrible choice of name - utf8-out ? > > > Command-line tool that can produ

Re: Bug#688046: ITP: out -- utility for producing UTF-8 output to standard streams and terminal.

2012-09-18 Thread James Hunt
On 18/09/12 19:04, Neil Williams wrote: > On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 11:00:46 +0100 > "James" wrote: > >> Package: wnpp >> Severity: wishlist >> Owner: James Hunt >> >> * Package name: out > > Terrible choice of name - utf8-out ? > >> Command-line tool that can produce UTF-8 (Unicode) strings in

Re: CD1 without a network mirror isn't sufficient to install a full desktop environment

2012-09-18 Thread Wouter Verhelst
*sigh* On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 03:21:06PM +0200, Matthias Klumpp wrote: > GNOME is seeking people to develop the GNOME-Panel - if MATE > developers want a classical desktop environment based on modern > technologies, they should develop the GNOME-Panel instead of forking > unmaintained and outdate

Re: CD1 without a network mirror isn't sufficient to install a full desktop environment

2012-09-18 Thread Matthias Klumpp
Hi! 2012/9/18 Wouter Verhelst : > [...] > On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 03:21:06PM +0200, Matthias Klumpp wrote: >> GNOME is seeking people to develop the GNOME-Panel - if MATE >> developers want a classical desktop environment based on modern >> technologies, they should develop the GNOME-Panel instead

Bug#688066: ITP: rex -- What do you want to deploy today?

2012-09-18 Thread Mike Gabriel
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Mike Gabriel * Package name: rex Version : Upstream Author : Jan Gehring (krimdomu on GitHUB) * URL : http://www.rexify.org/ * License : Apache License, Version 2.0 Programming Lang: Perl Description : What do yo

Re: let uscan exclude some upstream files (Was: uscan enhancement)

2012-09-18 Thread Nicolas Boulenguez
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 09:26:40AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > Would you volunteer to create a Wiki page to enable better structure > and which might lead to some consensus about the implementation? I would like to... if I eventually manage to create an account on wiki.debian.org. Sorry for the

status of eligibility of dug lists on lists.debian.org

2012-09-18 Thread Antoine Beaupré
Hi, We are in the process of kickstarting a Debian User Group (DUG), also known as a Local Group on the Debian wiki[1], in Montreal. We wish to unite the Debian Members that are in the city, but also interest the numerous free software enthusiasts in the Debian project. However, after digging thr

Re: Debian Policy 3.9.4.0 released

2012-09-18 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org): > I've just uploaded Debian Policy 3.9.4.0, which includes the Technical > Committee decision to make build-arch and build-indep mandatory targets > (but not for wheezy; see below), a substantial rewrite of the section on > shared library handling, and other

Re: Debian Policy 3.9.4.0 released

2012-09-18 Thread Russ Allbery
Christian PERRIER writes: > Thanks again and again for the great work maintaining the policy (and > lintian as well). > Given the quite important change of making build-{arch,indep} targets > mandatory, wouldn't have been better to use something like 3.10.1 or > anything clearly saying "hey, the

Re: status of eligibility of dug lists on lists.debian.org

2012-09-18 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 18 sep 12, 23:43:40, Antoine Beaupré wrote: > > So I request opinion from my fellow developers - what should a local > group do to have discussions about their group? Should Debian > infrastructure be available for this? If so, which? > > I see the following options: > > [ ] A: Do nothin