Hi, We are in the process of kickstarting a Debian User Group (DUG), also known as a Local Group on the Debian wiki[1], in Montreal. We wish to unite the Debian Members that are in the city, but also interest the numerous free software enthusiasts in the Debian project.
However, after digging through numerous documentation pages[2], it is now unclear to me that there is a concensus over the user of lists.debian.org for such local groups, even though the wiki page says otherwise. For example, the dug-muc (munich) request has been rejected[3] and the dug-nyc request seems to be on hold, mentionning that the proper place is on teams.debian.net[4]. There also seems to be a disagreement about how big a group should be to "desserve" a mailing list[3]. I think this is doing a disservice to our users. I can't imagine a user being able to go through all this trouble to setup tools for a local group. Even as a Debian Developer, I find the situation daunting, and I am not too eager to file a bug report only to be flamed for reporting issues[5]. So I request opinion from my fellow developers - what should a local group do to have discussions about their group? Should Debian infrastructure be available for this? If so, which? I see the following options: [ ] A: Do nothing, let them figure it out [ ] B: Host lists on lists.debian.org [ ] C: Host lists on teams.debian.org [ ] D: Host lists on alioth So far it seems that teams are setting up their own listservs in random places, but that seems to be like a patchwork solution: my opinion is that we should instead help our users with the resources at our dispoal. Thank you for your time and understanding, A. Notes: [1] http://wiki.debian.org/LocalGroups [2] http://www.debian.org/MailingLists and http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/HOWTO_start_list.en.html [3] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=687558 - although it seems the original requestor closed the bug himself... [4] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=454642 - also note that the above NYC request describes problems with archives and mail delivery on teams.debian.net [5] I find http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=687558#20 to be out of order and unnecessary. -- N'aimer qu'un seul est barbarie, car c'est au détriment de tous les autres. Fût-ce l'amour de Dieu. - Nietzsche, "Par delà le bien et le mal"
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