Re: Re: glibc very old

Andreas Metzler > That would be a duplicate, http://bugs.debian.org/672934 exists. Okay, the Maintainer is debian-glibc list. I don't see any discussion about it in the archive, so... Maybe ask again in debian-glibc? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subj

Re: MATE Desktop Environment in Debian

>I'd like to support the proposal to package MATE. +1 >While I agree there is code duplication, that's obviously something that >will take some time to remove, however I also believe it's important >not to wait until it's cleaned. ++1 I strongly agree with Dave, we should not wait to solve this

Re: solving the network-manager-in-gnome problem

On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 12:04:36PM +0100, Wookey wrote: > 3) Network manager should have an /etc/default/ ENABLE/DISABLE switch > (as wicd does) I'm not a network-manager fan myself, but please do not do this. ENABLE/DISABLE switches are *ugly*, as their effect is not limited to boottime changes.

Re: Debian stickers

That would be great! It would help when shopping! On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Philip Ashmore wrote: > Has anyone thought of making Debian stickers for > 1. products that work with Debian > -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org

Call for speakers, SFK12 sept 7-9 in Prishtina

Dear Debian Developers, We are looking for speakers for the upcoming fourth edition of Software Freedom Kosova Conference in Prishtina, http://www.flossk.org/en/blog/software-freedom-kosova-2012 let me know if you have time. mike -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software

Re: solving the network-manager-in-gnome problem

On 2012-07-22 11:43:14 +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > ENABLE/DISABLE switches are *ugly*, I disagree. ENABLE/DISABLE switches have some advantages: they are more readable than a set of symlinks, allow all the settings of some service to be grouped in a single place, and can be managed more easily

Bug#682398: ITP: cows-and-bulls -- Words-based version of the cows and bulls game

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "L. Guruprasad" * Package name: cows-and-bulls Version : 1.0 Upstream Author : L. Guruprasad * URL : https://github.com/lgp171188/Cows-and-Bulls * License : GPL Programming Lang: C++ Description : Words-based ver

Re: solving the network-manager-in-gnome problem

On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 01:50:58PM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2012-07-22 11:43:14 +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > ENABLE/DISABLE switches are *ugly*, > > I disagree. ENABLE/DISABLE switches have some advantages: they are > more readable than a set of symlinks, allow all the settings of s

Re: solving the network-manager-in-gnome problem

On 22.07.2012 11:43, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 12:04:36PM +0100, Wookey wrote: >> 3) Network manager should have an /etc/default/ ENABLE/DISABLE switch >> (as wicd does) > > I'm not a network-manager fan myself, but please do not do this. > > ENABLE/DISABLE switches are *ug

Re: Debian stickers

On Sun, 22 Jul 2012, lina wrote: > I am (seriously) thinking, is it possible to turn the apple light logo > to debian/linux logo? Yes. Cover it entirely with a design that will let a swirl of light get past. The challenge is to make it look _good_ :-) -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk

Re: MATE Desktop Environment in Debian

On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 11:08:32AM +0200, Oz Nahum Tiram wrote: > There is also enough murmur and frustration about the lack of feedback > acceptance from from GNOME developers. Personally, I feel the > applications in GNOME are dumbed versions of their counterparts in > GNOME2 only re-written in G

Re: Re: glibc very old

On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 12:07:44PM +0400, Artem Leschev wrote: > Andreas Metzler > > That would be a duplicate, http://bugs.debian.org/672934 exists. > Okay, the Maintainer is debian-glibc list. I don't see any discussion > about it in the archive, so... Maybe ask again in debian-glibc? Maybe wai

Re: Debian stickers

On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 10:31:28AM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Sun, 22 Jul 2012, lina wrote: > > I am (seriously) thinking, is it possible to turn the apple light logo > > to debian/linux logo? > > Yes. Cover it entirely with a design that will let a swirl of light get > past.

Re: solving the network-manager-in-gnome problem

On 2012-07-22 14:11:41 +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 01:50:58PM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > I disagree. ENABLE/DISABLE switches have some advantages: they are > > more readable than a set of symlinks, allow all the settings of some > > service to be grouped in a single p

Re: solving the network-manager-in-gnome problem

Hi Vincent, Quoting Vincent Lefevre (2012-07-22 15:53:13) > I don't think there's anything wrong with enhancing the way that > sysvinit works, as long as the user can still use the update-rc.d > method. There is: update-rc.d is a defined interface which works with sysvinit and other init systems (

Re: solving the network-manager-in-gnome problem

On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 01:50:58PM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2012-07-22 11:43:14 +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > ENABLE/DISABLE switches are *ugly*, > > I disagree. ENABLE/DISABLE switches have some advantages: they are > more readable than a set of symlinks, That's just an opinion (on

Re: MATE Desktop Environment in Debian

On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 15:34:01 +0200 Philipp Kern wrote: > On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 11:08:32AM +0200, Oz Nahum Tiram wrote: > > There is also enough murmur and frustration about the lack of feedback > > acceptance from from GNOME developers. Personally, I feel the > > applications in GNOME are dumbe

Re: debian-cd BoF at DebConf

On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 05:19:40PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > EFI and Secure Boot > === > > Just a brief mention here - there was a separate BoF about this and > I'll summarise that shortly. I think it's much too late in the release > process to get Secure Boot working for Whee

Re: CD sizes again (and BoF reminder!)

Simon Paillard wrote: > On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 09:25:50PM +0300, Uoti Urpala wrote: > > So at least in this case the biggest performance problem by far is the > > inappropriate use of fsync() or other disk synchronization primitives, > > and CPU use for unpacking is pretty much irrelevant. > > Th

Bug#637232: Multiarch breaks support for non-multiarch toolchain

affects 637232 + release-notes quit Hi, Matthias Klose wrote: > On 08/09/2011 07:31 PM, Aurelien Jarno wrote: >> I got fed up by people reporting bug on libc6, while this problem results >> from a decision Debian to implement multiarch. People should work on >> implementing a compatibility wrapp

Processed: Re: Multiarch breaks support for non-multiarch toolchain

Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > affects 637232 + release-notes Bug #637232 [general] general: Multiarch breaks support for non-multiarch toolchain Bug #639214 [general] eglibc: changes to paths concerning crt1.o, crti.o and crtn.o breaks building LLVM Trunk Bug #644986 [genera

Re: Bug#682398: ITP: cows-and-bulls -- Words-based version of the cows and bulls game

Hi there, Interesting! Not a game I've ever heard of before, but the package description covers it thoroughly. On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 05:35:08PM +0530, L. Guruprasad wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: "L. Guruprasad" > * Package name: cows-and-bulls > Version :

Re: Bug#682398: ITP: cows-and-bulls -- Words-based version of the cows and bulls game

Hi Steve, On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 11:24 PM, Steve Langasek wrote: >> are in the word guessed by the user in the exact same position) and bulls >> (alphabets in the word chosen by the game that are in the word guessed by >^ > > you mean 'letters', not 'alphabets'. Thank you for findin

BoF summaries (Re: debian-cd BoF at DebConf

Hi, On Sonntag, 22. Juli 2012, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > And while I'm at it: thanks a lot for your examplar work in preparing, > holding, and summarizing DebConf BoFs. For one thing, I'm catching up > now and your summaries are being extremely useful. Kudos! absolutly +1, these summaries are e

Re: glibc very old

On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 10:05:14AM +0900, Miles Bader wrote: > Is there a reason that Debian has such an old version of glibc, even in > unstable? > The current upstream version of glibc seems to be 2.16, whereas Debian > has 2.13 (which is circa 2011-02). The basic reasons are that 2.14 was a du

Re: Bug#682398: ITP: cows-and-bulls -- Words-based version of the cows and bulls game

On 22 July 2012 18:54, Steve Langasek wrote: > Hi there, > > Interesting! Not a game I've ever heard of before, but the package > description covers it thoroughly. > > Perhaps not under that name, but this is more widely known these days by the name of its 1970 commercial version, "Mastermind".

Re: Bug#682398: ITP: cows-and-bulls -- Words-based version of the cows and bulls game

Hi Thomas, On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 1:06 AM, Thomas Thurman wrote: > On 22 July 2012 18:54, Steve Langasek wrote: >> Interesting! Not a game I've ever heard of before, but the package >> description covers it thoroughly. >> > Perhaps not under that name, but this is more widely known these days

Re: CD sizes again (and BoF reminder!)

On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 01:58:59AM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > > BTW, when we switched to building udebx with xz, Philipp Kern benchmarked > > it using little or no additional CPU to decompress xz produced with > > -Zxz -z1 -Sextreme http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2011/10/msg00247.html > Per

Re: Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict

On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 04:38:21PM -0400, Filipus Klutiero wrote: > Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > >On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 08:07:15PM -0400, Filipus Klutiero wrote: > >> Thank you, but I would appreciate if debian-devel-announce would > >> stay dedicated to important announcements which may be usef

Re: MATE Desktop Environment in Debian

Le dimanche 22 juillet 2012 à 16:09 +0100, Neil Williams a écrit : > I disagree. I have a number of upstream projects which started with > early versions of GTK2 which I ported to more recent versions and in > which I then implemented support for the DISABLE_DEPRECATED macros of > glib2.0 and gtk+

Re: Debian stickers

On 22/07/12 10:57, Mike Dupont wrote: That would be great! It would help when shopping! On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Philip Ashmore mailto:cont...@philipashmore.com>> wrote: Has anyone thought of making Debian stickers for 1. products that work with Debian -- James Michael DuP

Re: CD sizes again (and BoF reminder!)

On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 07:58:42PM +0300, Uoti Urpala wrote: > Simon Paillard wrote: > > , I understand debian-installer ask dpkg not to fsync: > > > - Run dpkg with --force-unsafe-io during installation; syncing is > > This only affects one particular instance of syncing (which I think may

Re: MATE Desktop Environment in Debian

On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 22:48:36 +0200 Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le dimanche 22 juillet 2012 à 16:09 +0100, Neil Williams a écrit : > > I disagree. I have a number of upstream projects which started with > > early versions of GTK2 which I ported to more recent versions and in > > which I then implem

Re: MATE Desktop Environment in Debian

On Jul 22, Neil Williams wrote: > Bitter experience. My main problem is that I don't want to follow the > direction set out by GNOME3 with the shell and lack of usable panels, You don't have to. I use gnome applications and the panel with fvwm. -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digita

Re: Re: Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict

Steve Langasek wrote: On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 04:38:21PM -0400, Filipus Klutiero wrote: > Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > >On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 08:07:15PM -0400, Filipus Klutiero wrote: > >> Thank you, but I would appreciate if debian-devel-announce would > >> stay dedicated to important a

Re: Re: Communication of technical committee decisions (Re: [CTTE#614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict)

Hi Thibaut, Thibaut Paumard wrote: Le 21/07/12 22:35, Filipus Klutiero a écrit : > Hi Arno, > > Arno Töll wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On 18.07.2012 02:07, Filipus Klutiero wrote: >>> Thank you, but I would appreciate if debian-devel-announce >>> would stay dedicated to important announcements whic

Re: Re: Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict

On Sun, 2012-07-22 at 19:33 -0400, Filipus Klutiero wrote: > Steve Langasek wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 04:38:21PM -0400, Filipus Klutiero wrote: > > > Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > > > >On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 08:07:15PM -0400, Filipus Klutiero wrote: > > > >> Thank you, but I would appr

Re: Re: Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict

Hi Lars, Lars Wirzenius wrote: On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 04:38:21PM -0400, Filipus Klutiero wrote: > Hi Stefano, > > Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > >On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 08:07:15PM -0400, Filipus Klutiero wrote: > >> Thank you, but I would appreciate if debian-devel-announce would > >> s

Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict

Filipus Klutiero whined: >Steve Langasek wrote: >> On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 04:38:21PM -0400, Filipus Klutiero wrote: >> > >> > although publicity of some resolutions may indeed be useful for a >> > wide range of developers, I fail to see many who would be interested >> > in the resolution on nod

Re: Re: Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict

Hi Philipp, Philipp Kern wrote: On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 04:38:21PM -0400, Filipus Klutiero wrote: > Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > >On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 08:07:15PM -0400, Filipus Klutiero wrote: > >> Thank you, but I would appreciate if debian-devel-announce would > >> stay dedicated to

Re: CD sizes again (and BoF reminder!)

On Mon, 23 Jul 2012, Adam Borowski wrote: > You tested ext4. On btrfs, dpkg is around an order of magnitude slower, > making using it without eatmydata a laughable idea. > > And that's on a filesystem whose features include: > * transactions (so all dpkg processing could be done without a single

Re: Debian stickers

On 22/07/12 04:41, Thomas Goirand wrote: > Such Debian stickers would make no sense without certification. A hardware > certification can only be done if we have the necessary software to do it. > We don't have it (yet), so let's discuss that instead, then when we have > it, we may talk about Debia

Re: solving the network-manager-in-gnome problem

Hi Michael, On 2012-07-22 16:25:15 +0200, Michael Stapelberg wrote: > Quoting Vincent Lefevre (2012-07-22 15:53:13) > > I don't think there's anything wrong with enhancing the way that > > sysvinit works, as long as the user can still use the update-rc.d > > method. > There is: update-rc.d is a de

Re: solving the network-manager-in-gnome problem

On 2012-07-22 16:40:48 +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 01:50:58PM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > On 2012-07-22 11:43:14 +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > > ENABLE/DISABLE switches are *ugly*, > > > > I disagree. ENABLE/DISABLE switches have some advantages: they are > >

Re: Re: Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict

On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 07:33:37PM -0400, Filipus Klutiero wrote: > Steve Langasek wrote: > >On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 04:38:21PM -0400, Filipus Klutiero wrote: > >> Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > >> >On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 08:07:15PM -0400, Filipus Klutiero wrote: > >> >> Thank you, but I would a

Re: glibc very old

Steve Langasek writes: >> Is there a reason that Debian has such an old version of glibc, even in >> unstable? > >> The current upstream version of glibc seems to be 2.16, whereas Debian >> has 2.13 (which is circa 2011-02). > > The basic reasons are that 2.14 was a dud of an upstream release, and