On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 08:06:56 +0200
Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Mar 2012, Wookey wrote:
> > Well, perhaps I shouldn't (and indeed I'd like us to get to a point
> > where we don't), but currently, in practice, non-native builds need
> > other things setting in the environment anyway so even
Hi Folks,
I'm looking for a Standard C Library compliance test suite. I'd prefer
an open source one, preferably with a license more liberal than GPL,
e.g. BSD or MIT, which is why I can't just use the tests in the glibc
sources.
Can anyone suggest projects that I should look at?
--
Regards
Pet
Russ Allbery, le Thu 29 Mar 2012 23:41:40 -0700, a écrit :
> systemd's goal wasn't to become a standard that supported things
> people were already doing.
There must be a misunderstanding somewhere, then, and that needs further
explanation: the feature comparison page produced by Lenhart says
exac
On 03/30/2012 03:38 AM, Philipp Kern wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 12:13:55AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
>> On 03/24/2012 07:17 AM, Michael Banck wrote:
>>> This is a development list, please discuss user support issues or
>>> general usage questions on debian-user.
>> I don't see his rant aga
On 2012-03-29 13:07:56 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Well, it seems like you should file bugs if you can, because a lot of
> these are not universal problems and therefore probably aren't known
> issues.
I did several months ago:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=637267
http://b
On 2012-03-29 23:23:52 -0400, Chris Knadle wrote:
> On Thursday, March 29, 2012 04:09:57, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > Well, wicd has its own bugs, such as preventing a laptop from
> > suspending.
>
> Hmm. That sucks. I'd like to debug why you're running into this. However
> I've been using wic
On 2012-03-30 08:39:38 +0200, Salvo Tomaselli wrote:
> > Well, wicd has its own bugs, such as preventing a laptop from
> > suspending.
> are you talking about a bug from 2008 that has been fixed for ages?
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/wicd/+bug/306210
No, this is not the same bug (in my case, wicd
Andrei POPESCU writes:
> On Ma, 27 mar 12, 08:36:58, David Banks wrote:
>>
>> In the specific case of mosh, I have posted three RFS messages to
>> debian-mentors since filing the ITP, in addition to the creation of the
>> RFS bug after the sponsorship-requests procedure was announced, so the
>>
Ansgar Burchardt writes:
> Jean-Christophe Dubacq writes:
>> What about a dev. script that would be run in debian/ and would parse
>> debian/control and send the ITP? I can write that!
Yes please.
> The Perl group already has a script that does this: examples/get-itp
> in git.debian.org:/git/p
Jon Dowland writes:
> On 27/03/12 17:09, Filipus Klutiero wrote:
>> So what do others think?
>
> I think that we need to separate the notion of a debian desktop from
> the GNOME or KDE desktops. Synaptic is probably quite rightly not
> part of either, but I agree that a "default desktop" via ins
Wookey writes:
> +++ Raphael Hertzog [2012-03-29 21:06 +0200]:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Thu, 29 Mar 2012, Wookey wrote:
>> > Anyone know when this happened and what if any, the limitations are?
>> > It's certainly true in wheezy, squeeze, precise and oineiric.
>>
>> This has always been the case ever s
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 02:30:37PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> Shouldn't there rather be a base-desktop that both KDE-desktop and
> GNOME-desktop depend on? A meta package that depends on everything any
> desktop should have.
I'm not sure if that's the right direction of dependency, conce
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 09:58:41PM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 19:10:05 +0100, Wookey wrote:
>
> > Should a package depending on this behaviour build-dep on a particular
> > dpkg version? As it already works in build-essential in stable do the
> > same rules apply as ess
On Mar 30, 2012 8:40 AM, "Goswin von Brederlow" wrote:
>
> Hopefully dpkg-buildpackage will stop setting those varibales at some
> point so sources that wrongfully depend on the variables being set
> actualy break.
Already happened in version 1.16.1 (#560070).
On Fri, 30 Mar 2012, Neil Williams wrote:
> > Honestly I have never seen anyone doing cross-builds and calling
> > debian/rules manually.
>
> ... only because it *always* fails
>
> I have longed for such support myself at times. It is incredibly
> frustrating to see a cross-build fail 90% of
+++ peter green [2012-03-29 20:06 +0100]:
> >Now, you can build packages without using dpkg-buildpackage by calling
> >rules directly, and in that case the rules file would need to call
> >dpkg-architecture, but someone would have to convince me that that was
> >an interface worth supporting for no
]] Samuel Thibault
> > The maintenance of systemd is actually quite the opposite of a standard.
>
> That sentence is quite frightening.
Is it? It's not like the maintenance of the kernel, KDE or GNOME is
done in the manner you maintain a standard. Heck, probably just about
no software in Debia
+++ Neil Williams [2012-03-26 09:17 +0100]:
> Therefore packaging takes no time at all, it is always fully complete
> before the code itself is even worth evaluating as useful to Debian.
> The packaging is part of my test harness.
You are only looking at this from the upstream's point of view. Mos
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 02:39:17PM +0100, Wookey wrote:
> > If an ITP remains open without comment for
> > more than a month, the chances that there will ever be an upload to
> > close it are close to zero.
>
> That may be true in an 'averages' sense, but there are old open ITPs
> with a lot of w
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On 30/03/12 08:18, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> ]] Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez
>
>> > On 20/03/12 07:14, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
>>> > > FWIW, I have a proposal for a GSoC task this year to write a
>>> > > systemd-to-initscript converter,
>>> > > http://wiki.debian.org/SummerOfCode2012/Projects#SysV-in
Samuel Thibault writes:
> Russ Allbery, le Thu 29 Mar 2012 23:41:40 -0700, a écrit :
>> It's focused on being clean, supportable, and fully integrated with
>> Linux capabilities, *not* to solving everyone's use case, even to the
>> detriment of being universal.
> So that directly conflicts with
On 30/03/12 12:29, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> I don't know what's going on exactly, but from the logs, it seems
> that when suspending, the connection is ended (as expected), but
> then, wicd tries to reconnect, and this may interrupt the suspend.
Check that you don't have GLAN/WLAN or something lik
Vincent Lefevre writes:
> On 2012-03-29 13:07:56 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
>> Well, it seems like you should file bugs if you can, because a lot of
>> these are not universal problems and therefore probably aren't known
>> issues.
> I did several months ago:
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/
]] Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez
Hi,
> What you think about extending this GSoC project to also implement the
> translation from systemd unit files to upstart ones? it is worth ?
My interest in translating systemd units to sysvinit scripts is because
it'll enable us to have higher-quality init scr
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 14:08:33 +0100, Roger Leigh wrote:
> Would there not be some advantage to making dpkg-buildpackge the
> interface for building? (Not dropping the debian/rules interface,
> of course.) This would permit the automatic setting of all the
> host- and build-related variables w
Wookey writes:
> +++ Neil Williams [2012-03-26 09:17 +0100]:
>> Therefore packaging takes no time at all, it is always fully complete
>> before the code itself is even worth evaluating as useful to Debian.
>> The packaging is part of my test harness.
>
> You are only looking at this from the upst
Jon Dowland writes:
> On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 02:30:37PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
>> Shouldn't there rather be a base-desktop that both KDE-desktop and
>> GNOME-desktop depend on? A meta package that depends on everything any
>> desktop should have.
>
> I'm not sure if that's the right
Tollef Fog Heen, le Fri 30 Mar 2012 15:40:55 +0200, a écrit :
> > > The maintenance of systemd is actually quite the opposite of a standard.
> >
> > That sentence is quite frightening.
>
> Is it? It's not like the maintenance of the kernel, KDE or GNOME is
> done in the manner you maintain a stan
Russ Allbery, le Fri 30 Mar 2012 10:41:05 -0700, a écrit :
> Samuel Thibault writes:
> > Russ Allbery, le Thu 29 Mar 2012 23:41:40 -0700, a écrit :
>
> >> It's focused on being clean, supportable, and fully integrated with
> >> Linux capabilities, *not* to solving everyone's use case, even to the
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 12:18:20AM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> If it's *not* for solving everyone's use case, then it's not good for
> making it a default init implementation.
You cannot ever solve everyone's use cases. What systemd (and upstart)
aim to do is to solve all use cases that sysvi
Samuel Thibault writes:
> It is apparently trying to be a *Linux* standard, being adopted by all
> distributions.
That's not at all clear to me. It seems more to be trying to be a good
init system used by Fedora, and beyond that it's left to people to make up
their own minds, although of course
On 2012-03-30 19:43:48 +0200, Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez wrote:
> On 30/03/12 12:29, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > I don't know what's going on exactly, but from the logs, it seems
> > that when suspending, the connection is ended (as expected), but
> > then, wicd tries to reconnect, and this may inte
On 2012-03-30 10:44:07 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Vincent Lefevre writes:
> > On 2012-03-29 13:07:56 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
>
> >> Well, it seems like you should file bugs if you can, because a lot of
> >> these are not universal problems and therefore probably aren't known
> >> issues.
>
Hi I'm not a DD but ...
I thought on Gnu site if you get and compile the compiler it already has a test suite, for C anyway
(i have not tried it personally).
Peter Miller wrote:
Hi Folks,
I'm looking for a Standard C Library compliance test suite. I'd prefer
an open source one, preferably
On 2012-03-31 01:16:42 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> On 2012-03-30 10:44:07 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> > I don't think your diagnosis of this is correct, in that I don't think
> > wicd is what's doing this. I was getting things like that with Network
> > Manager as well, and usually rebooting
Hi,
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 7:17 PM, John D. Hendrickson and Sara Darnell <
johnandsa...@cox.net> wrote:
> I thought on Gnu site if you get and compile the compiler it already has a
> test suite, for C anyway (i have not tried it personally).
>
He mentions in the message that he's looking for
On 31/03/12 01:03, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> On 2012-03-30 19:43:48 +0200, Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez wrote:
>> On 30/03/12 12:29, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
>>> I don't know what's going on exactly, but from the logs, it seems
>>> that when suspending, the connection is ended (as expected), but
>>> the
Package: wnpp
Severity: normal
I've just orphaned svgalib by uploading 1.4.x and 1.9.x packages with
pending changes to unstable and experimental. I recently contacted
upstream to send patches back, but was offered taking over upstream
maintainership instead because he is not interested in it anym
On Fri, 2012-03-30 at 20:02 +1100, Peter Miller wrote:
> I'm looking for a Standard C Library compliance test suite. I'd prefer
> an open source one, preferably with a license more liberal than GPL,
> e.g. BSD or MIT, which is why I can't just use the tests in the glibc
> sources.
newlib, used by
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