On 2012-02-23 21:59, Jakub Wilk wrote:
> * Andreas Beckmann , 2012-02-23, 21:49:
>> I'm planning to file bugs against all packages that currently leave
>> alternatives on the system after they were removed. Forgetting to
>> remove alternatives usually leaves dangling symlinks on the system and
>> i
On 2012-02-04 08:55, Vincent Bernat wrote:
> OoO Peu avant le début de l'après-midi du jeudi 02 février 2012, vers
> Andreas Beckmann disait :
>
>> I'm planning to file bugs against all packages that currently fail the
>> piuparts test with a 'deluser/delgroup: command not found' error in
>> w
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:06:22AM +0100, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> Common init scripts are short enough to make them easy to debug. Its
> more annoying when these shellscripts call other shellscripts which call
> other shellscripts - but that is a different issue which needs to be
> solved - but not
Riku Voipio, le Thu 22 Mar 2012 12:20:45 +0200, a écrit :
> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:06:22AM +0100, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> > Common init scripts are short enough to make them easy to debug. Its
> > more annoying when these shellscripts call other shellscripts which call
> > other shellscripts - b
]] Samuel Thibault
> One big difference, however, is that when your system is screwed, you
> might however still have an editor. Rebuilding a systemd is a bit more
> involved, you probably don't even have a compiler on your production
> system...
Why would you need a compiler to edit a systemd u
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Tollef Fog Heen, le Thu 22 Mar 2012 12:22:20 +0100, a écrit :
> > One big difference, however, is that when your system is screwed, you
> > might however still have an editor. Rebuilding a systemd is a bit more
> > involved, you probably don't even have a compiler on your production
> > system...
>
On Mar 22, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Because the issue at stake might lie in systemd itself, not the unit
> file.
While obviously the C components of other init systems are bug free.
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Marco d'Itri writes ("Re: On init in Debian"):
> On Mar 22, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > Because the issue at stake might lie in systemd itself, not the unit
> > file.
>
> While obviously the C components of other init systems are bug free.
They are enormously smaller, so any bug is much less like
On 2012-03-22 13:50, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Andreas Beckmann writes ("Re: mass bug filing of 'deluser/delgroup: command
> not found' errors detected by piuparts"):
>> I have revised the template to include a link to the discussion about
>> not removing system users on package removal:
>
> I think i
Andreas Beckmann writes ("Re: mass bug filing of 'deluser/delgroup: command not
found' errors detected by piuparts"):
> I have revised the template to include a link to the discussion about
> not removing system users on package removal:
I think it would be better to wait with this MBF until we h
Samuel Thibault writes:
> Because the issue at stake might lie in systemd itself, not the unit
> file.
And if /bin/sh breaks on an init style system, you can fix it with an
editor?
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Stig Sandbeck Mathisen, le Thu 22 Mar 2012 13:35:15 +0100, a écrit :
> Samuel Thibault writes:
>
> > Because the issue at stake might lie in systemd itself, not the unit
> > file.
>
> And if /bin/sh breaks on an init style system, you can fix it with an
> editor?
You can cp a known-to-work-stat
]] Samuel Thibault
Hi,
> Stig Sandbeck Mathisen, le Thu 22 Mar 2012 13:35:15 +0100, a écrit :
> > Samuel Thibault writes:
> >
> > > Because the issue at stake might lie in systemd itself, not the unit
> > > file.
> >
> > And if /bin/sh breaks on an init style system, you can fix it with an
>
Tollef Fog Heen, le Thu 22 Mar 2012 15:47:45 +0100, a écrit :
> > Stig Sandbeck Mathisen, le Thu 22 Mar 2012 13:35:15 +0100, a écrit :
> > > Samuel Thibault writes:
> > >
> > > > Because the issue at stake might lie in systemd itself, not the unit
> > > > file.
> > >
> > > And if /bin/sh breaks
On Thu, 22 Mar 2012, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > While obviously the C components of other init systems are bug free.
>
> They are enormously smaller, so any bug is much less likely to be in
> the C portion. (And an implementation of similar functionality in C
> is likely to be more buggy than an imp
On Fri, 23 Mar 2012, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > How is this different from copying a known-to-work, statically compiled
> > copy of systemd in?
>
> What init scripts use from the shell is way less complex than what
> systemd implements, and it's independant from what is needed to achieve
Actuall
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The "pg_rman" utiltity would be a useful addition to Debian for people who run
PostgreSQL systems:
pg_rman is an online backup and restore tool for PostgreSQL.
The goal of the pg_rman project is providing a method for online backup and
PITR as easy a
Russell Coker, le Fri 23 Mar 2012 02:25:57 +1100, a écrit :
> > the boot. You can copy over a woking systemd, fine, your system can
> > boot, but you have to debug the issue with the non-working systemd, i.e.
> > go back to a non-booting system. When a bug is in the shell and hits the
> > init scri
reassign 665204 wnpp
retitle 665204 RFP: pgram -- an online backup and restore tool for PostgreSQL
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On Thu, 22 Mar 2012 11:28:15 -0400
David Magda wrote:
> Package: general
> Severity: wishlist
>
> The "pg_rman" utiltity would be a useful addition to Debian for people who
> run PostgreSQL
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org:
> reassign 665204 wnpp
Bug #665204 [general] general: create package for pg_rman Postgres backup
utiltity
Bug reassigned from package 'general' to 'wnpp'.
> retitle 665204 RFP: pgram -- an online backup and restore tool for PostgreSQL
Bug #665204 [
Matthias Klose writes:
> On 21.03.2012 11:26, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
>> Matthias Klose writes:
>>
>>> On 19.03.2012 15:34, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> Did you read the wiki page?
Yes. Is the kind of information on which calling convention, b
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OoO En ce début d'après-midi ensoleillé du mercredi 21 mars 2012, vers
15:56, Svante Signell disait :
> How on earth would anybody be able to make a decision if there are no
> comparisons between the alternatives available? Throw a dice, rely on
> gut feelings, or what? Since everybody is so da
Le jeudi 22 mars 2012 à 16:47 +0100, Samuel Thibault a écrit :
> A few people that would have to be expert in all the areas that systemd
> implements? There are a lot of knobs in the Debian sysv initscripts,
> which are there for a reason that has been determined by experts of
> the corresponding
Josselin Mouette, le Thu 22 Mar 2012 23:02:59 +0100, a écrit :
> Or we can break this circle and replace this by a simpler solution. Yes,
> we will run into bugs that we wouldn’t have run into without doing
> anything, at first.
And have to re-invent the knobs that the wheel needs.
Samuel
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Le jeudi 22 mars 2012 à 23:05 +0100, Samuel Thibault a écrit :
> Josselin Mouette, le Thu 22 Mar 2012 23:02:59 +0100, a écrit :
> > Or we can break this circle and replace this by a simpler solution. Yes,
> > we will run into bugs that we wouldn’t have run into without doing
> > anything, at first
Josselin Mouette, le Thu 22 Mar 2012 23:32:55 +0100, a écrit :
> Le jeudi 22 mars 2012 à 23:05 +0100, Samuel Thibault a écrit :
> > Josselin Mouette, le Thu 22 Mar 2012 23:02:59 +0100, a écrit :
> > > Or we can break this circle and replace this by a simpler solution. Yes,
> > > we will run into b
Samuel Thibault, le Thu 22 Mar 2012 23:43:07 +0100, a écrit :
> Josselin Mouette, le Thu 22 Mar 2012 23:32:55 +0100, a écrit :
> > Le jeudi 22 mars 2012 à 23:05 +0100, Samuel Thibault a écrit :
> > > Josselin Mouette, le Thu 22 Mar 2012 23:02:59 +0100, a écrit :
> > > > Or we can break this circle
On Thu, 2012-03-22 at 23:02 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le jeudi 22 mars 2012 à 16:47 +0100, Samuel Thibault a écrit :
> > A few people that would have to be expert in all the areas that systemd
> > implements? There are a lot of knobs in the Debian sysv initscripts,
> > which are there for
Samuel Thibault writes:
> So you believe that systemd already implements all the important details
> that readahead+inetd+udev+autofs+fsck+quota+swapon+kbd+getty+etc. have
> polished over time?
I suspect there are corner cases that are not yet polished properly, which
is why people run it and re
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 8:07 PM, Svante Signell
wrote:
> Please, don't make things unbearably complicated in case something
> breaks!!! Network *should* work also in console mode... Looking forward
> to the which nasty bugs in the future are caused by systemd/upstart!
Wow. You *clearly* don't kno
On Thursday, March 22, 2012 19:07:43, Svante Signell wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-03-22 at 23:02 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> > Le jeudi 22 mars 2012 à 16:47 +0100, Samuel Thibault a écrit :
> > > A few people that would have to be expert in all the areas that systemd
> > > implements? There are a lo
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Le Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 12:07:43AM +0100, Svante Signell a écrit :
>
> Speaking about buggy software: Today the libpcre3 update broke a lot of
> functions on my computer, including start of gdm3. And since I'm using
> the network manager for ethernet (some stuff does not work without it),
> it was
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On Fri, 23 Mar 2012, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> A few people that would have to be expert in all the areas that systemd
> implements? There are a lot of knobs in the Debian sysv initscripts,
> which are there for a reason that has been determined by experts of
> the corresponding area during the pa
Andreas Beckmann writes ("Re: mass bug filing of 'deluser/delgroup: command not
found' errors detected by piuparts"):
> Better suggestions welcome. I'd like to give advice how to fix the buggy
> postrm scripts *now* while being aware that general changes in user
> handling may be needed later.
If
On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 11:30:21, Andres Mejia wrote:
> On Mar 21, 2012 10:57 AM, "Svante Signell" wrote:
> > On Wed, 2012-03-21 at 14:44 +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> > > ]] Svante Signell
> > >
> > > > Regarding who is expert or not, can the people who considers
>
> themselves
>
> > >
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