Re: upstart: please update to latest upstream version

2012-03-04 Thread Marc Haber
On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 01:19:14 +0100, Matthias Klumpp wrote: >Debian - as always - is extremely slow in making a decision on this, >but this time it might be an advantage: Fedora, openSUSE, Mageia, etc. >already switched to systemd (and Ubuntu, AFAIK the only distribution >using upstart at time) Di

Re: A few observations about systemd

2012-03-04 Thread Marc Haber
On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 21:09:36 +0200, Uoti Urpala wrote: >Guillem Jover wrote: >> While upstreams are obviously entitled to not care at *all* about >> portability for their pet projects (at the risk of being either ignored >> or forked, I guess), trying to push so hard for the adoption of those >> p

Re: pdiff for Translation files, increased times

2012-03-04 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 12774 March 1977, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > i took the BSP i am at right now to look at that pdiff shit, and after i > finished yelling at that code, we now are creating pdiff files for > changed Translation-*.bz2 too. > That is, we just started, so there is only the pdiff for the -en file > avai

Re: A few observations about systemd

2012-03-04 Thread David Weinehall
On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 09:00:07PM +0100, Svante Signell wrote: [snip] > The main question is: For who's interest should Debian exist, the > upstream authors, the Debian maintainers or the users? My vote is on the > latter :) I think few argue against Debian being for the users. But the question

Re: A few observations about systemd

2012-03-04 Thread YunQiang Su
Is it possible to implement the linux-only feathers that systemd needs? On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 6:20 PM, David Weinehall wrote: > On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 09:00:07PM +0100, Svante Signell wrote: > [snip] >> The main question is: For who's interest should Debian exist, the >> upstream authors, the D

Re: Multiarch file overlap summary and proposal

2012-03-04 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Mar 04, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > Also, why does refcounting have to be "perfect"? > > What would break if it did not actually check that the two files > > provided by the same package for different architectures are identical? > Everything that can go wrong when splitting packages. You

Bug#662138: ITP: mysql-utilities -- MySQL Utilities - command-line interface to MySQL

2012-03-04 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Package name: mysql-utilities Version: 1.0.4 Upstream Author: Oracle and/or its affiliates URL: https://launchpad.net/mysql-utilities License: GPL-2 Description: MySQL Utilities -- comm

Re: Fwd: Status of opensync in Debian - mass removal very likely

2012-03-04 Thread Chris Frey
Thanks to intrigeri for forwarding this message to me. There are about 3 developers working on opensync, very part time, and I'm one of them, and have taken the role of upstream maintainer for the library, and some plugins as far as I am able. I lack test devices, so cannot truly support all plug

Bug#662175: ITP: basilisk-ii-cvs -- Basilisk II (jit). Motorola 680x0 based Mac emulator

2012-03-04 Thread Giulio Paci
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Giulio Paci * Package name: basilisk-ii-cvs Version : Unreleased CVS tree snapshot Upstream Author : Christian Bauer * URL : http://basilisk.cebix.net/ * License : (GPL) Programming Lang: (C++) Description : Bas

Re: upstart: please update to latest upstream version

2012-03-04 Thread Matthias Klumpp
2012/3/4 Marc Haber : > On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 01:19:14 +0100, Matthias Klumpp > wrote: >>Debian - as always - is extremely slow in making a decision on this, >>but this time it might be an advantage: Fedora, openSUSE, Mageia, etc. >>already switched to systemd (and Ubuntu, AFAIK the only distributio

Bug#662205: ITP: cyclograph -- CycloGraph plots the altimetry of your route

2012-03-04 Thread Federico Brega
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Federico Brega * Package name: cyclograph Version : 1.5.0 Upstream Author : Federico Brega * URL : http://cyclograph.sourceforge.net/ * License : GPL v3 Programming Lang: Python Description : CycloGraph plots the

Re: Bug#644138: Bug 644138: kcc and heimdal-client both install /usr/bin/kcc

2012-03-04 Thread Russ Allbery
Osamu Aoki writes: > On Sat, Mar 03, 2012 at 01:07:28PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: >> I would contact Heimdal upstream and ask if they'd be willing to change >> the name of the binary, given that it's a relatively new program and is >> much more recent than the other package. > There are so many

Re: Status of opensync in Debian - mass removal very likely

2012-03-04 Thread Robert Collins
On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Neil Williams wrote: > opensync/multisync is a complete mess, collecting 25 RC bugs between 20 > source packages and a collective 17,626 days waiting to enter testing. > dd-list attached. I stopped maintaining it years ago; my name is still there merely because (A

A DM/DD should know how to watch his mouth (code of conduct).

2012-03-04 Thread Sergio Cipolla
Hello. I'm just a Debian user for some years and I'm writing to this list because I found that at http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=660814 the Debian Multimedia maintainer Fabian Greffrath was very wrong, by being not only wrong in what he said but also very impolite. I wrote to a fo

Re: A DM/DD should know how to watch his mouth (code of conduct).

2012-03-04 Thread Russ Allbery
Sergio Cipolla writes: > I'm just a Debian user for some years and I'm writing to this list > because I found that at > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=660814 the Debian > Multimedia maintainer Fabian Greffrath was very wrong, by being not > only wrong in what he said but also ve

Re: A DM/DD should know how to watch his mouth (code of conduct).

2012-03-04 Thread Thomas Preud'homme
Le dimanche 4 mars 2012 22:55:46, Russ Allbery a écrit : > Sergio Cipolla writes: > > I'm just a Debian user for some years and I'm writing to this list > > because I found that at > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=660814 the Debian > > Multimedia maintainer Fabian Greffrath was

Re: A DM/DD should know how to watch his mouth (code of conduct).

2012-03-04 Thread Fernando Lemos
Hi, On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 6:28 PM, Sergio Cipolla wrote: > Hello. > I'm just a Debian user for some years and I'm writing to this list > because I found that at > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=660814 the Debian > Multimedia maintainer Fabian Greffrath was very wrong, by being

Re: A DM/DD should know how to watch his mouth (code of conduct).

2012-03-04 Thread Russ Allbery
"Thomas Preud'homme" writes: > Le dimanche 4 mars 2012 22:55:46, Russ Allbery a écrit : >> Er... the first person to use the word "crappy" in that entire bug >> discussion is, um, you. Usually when you put quote marks around things >> that's supposed to indicate that it's a quote. > You probabl

Re: A DM/DD should know how to watch his mouth (code of conduct).

2012-03-04 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2012-03-04, Sergio Cipolla wrote: > "Fabian, who do you think you are to call d-m-o's packages as 'crappy'? > d-m-o is a traditional and very respected 3rd party repository for > Debian and has been for years. It's not. It's neither traditional nor very respected. At least not in the develop

Re: A DM/DD should know how to watch his mouth (code of conduct).

2012-03-04 Thread Gergely Nagy
Sergio Cipolla writes: > I'm not sure if you're a Debian Maintainer or not (or worse, Debian > Developer) but this kind of big mouthing shouldn't be accepted from a > DM/DD. I don't see a problem. Someone has a strong opinon, and perhaps the way it came across was a bit harsh, but I don't believ

Unofficial repositories on 'debian' domains

2012-03-04 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sun, 2012-03-04 at 23:27 +0100, Gergely Nagy wrote: > Sergio Cipolla writes: > > > I'm not sure if you're a Debian Maintainer or not (or worse, Debian > > Developer) but this kind of big mouthing shouldn't be accepted from a > > DM/DD. > > I don't see a problem. Someone has a strong opinon, a

Re: A DM/DD should know how to watch his mouth (code of conduct).

2012-03-04 Thread Daniel Baumann
On 03/04/2012 11:05 PM, Fernando Lemos wrote: > Fabian's language in those bug reports isn't uncommon in > the free software community, deal with it. apart from the fact that Fabian is factually right.. just because someone is offended (Fabian, by the initial bug reporter going mental) doesn't ma

Re: Unofficial repositories on 'debian' domains

2012-03-04 Thread Gergely Nagy
Ben Hutchings writes: > Looking at the front page of http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ today, I > don't see a clear statement that it is unofficial. There are a ton of hints, nevertheless. I'd like to think that someone who's adding sources.list entries to his config will spend a moment or two a

Re: A DM/DD should know how to watch his mouth (code of conduct).

2012-03-04 Thread Russ Allbery
Daniel Baumann writes: > On 03/04/2012 11:05 PM, Fernando Lemos wrote: >> Fabian's language in those bug reports isn't uncommon in the free >> software community, deal with it. > apart from the fact that Fabian is factually right.. > just because someone is offended (Fabian, by the initial bug

Re: Split arch:all contents to Contents-all.gz

2012-03-04 Thread gregor herrmann
On Sun, 04 Mar 2012 10:02:07 +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > Sounds like a win to me. Ack. > The tools that might need changing: > > debmirror > apt-file > UDD > collab-qa/filecontents/*-contents.py Maybe dh-make-perl too. Cheers, gregor -- .''`. Homepage: http://info.comodo.priv.at/ - OpenP

Re: A DM/DD should know how to watch his mouth (code of conduct).

2012-03-04 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi Sergio, On So, 04 Mär 2012, Sergio Cipolla wrote: > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=660814 the Debian > Multimedia maintainer Fabian Greffrath was very wrong, by being not You call "crappy" a strong word? I propose that you watch a bit of TV or read news papers so that you get

Re: Unofficial repositories on 'debian' domains

2012-03-04 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sun, Mar 04, 2012 at 10:59:39PM +, Ben Hutchings wrote: > Looking at the front page of http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ today, > I don't see a clear statement that it is unofficial. Agreed. I also find disturbing that the website seeks for donations without making clear that donated money