Mike Bird wrote:
> Some people have expressed interested in obsolete config files
> associated with currently installed packages.
[...]
Correct behavior is to remove obsolete _unmodified_ conffiles,
as Roger mentioned. Which of the conffiles mentioned below were
modified? No way to know just ye
On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 07:07:05PM +0100, Michal Čihař wrote:
[...]
> Does it really make sense to package EXIF library, which is two years
> dead and does not support any recently made cameras? Would not be
> better to rather use something alive like pyexiv2?
libexif is not very active but it's s
Hi
Dne Mon, 17 Jan 2011 09:51:50 +0100
Emmanuel Bouthenot napsal(a):
> On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 07:07:05PM +0100, Michal Čihař wrote:
> [...]
>
> > Does it really make sense to package EXIF library, which is two years
> > dead and does not support any recently made cameras? Would not be
> > bett
Hi
Dne Mon, 17 Jan 2011 09:07:46 +0900
TANIGUCHI Takaki napsal(a):
> I submitted ITP for simple-image-reducer (#607237). That depends on
> python-exif, if python-exif has not good support, anyway I need this
> package.
Okay, in this case it probably makes sense. However the common practice
for
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:49:17AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Steve M. Robbins wrote:
>
> > What is the recommended course of action for such a package?
>
> For now: build on a 32-bit system or in a 32-bit chroot.
>
> Other options in increasing order of prefere
Hi,
wouldn't it make sense to coordinate this in
http://pkg-phototools.alioth.debian.org/
I recently learned about this group and its a shame that it is widely
unknown and not even has a Wiki page.
Kind regards
Andreas.
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 10:37:03AM +0100, Michal Čihař wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:53:58 +0100
Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:49:17AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Steve M. Robbins wrote:
> >
> > > What is the recommended course of action for such a package?
> >
> > For now: build on a 32-bit system or
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 04:52:13PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Roger Leigh writes:
> > Yes, and this is what I did. It's just rather tedious to (IIRC)
> > repeatedly run "dpkg-reconfigure sysv-rc" and then find out which file
> > is offending, run "dpkg -S $file", and then purge it.
> I've not
At the risk of contributing to what is already often an ill-tempered
and unconstructive thread:
Roger Leigh writes ("Re: Can insserv made better?"):
> You're saying that an unwieldy ad-hoc fixed list of numbers and names
> is superior to detailed dependency information? This is patently
> untrue.
Don Armstrong writes ("Re: Why is help so hard to find?"):
> A possible hack would be to have insserv ignore any initscripts which
> are conffiles which when run without options exit with zero status.
It could probably safely invoke them with:
/etc/init.d/obsolete --fail-please
> But this proba
After discovering two different unrelated packages abusing the pm-utils
hooks, I started wondering if there are any generic guidance wrt such
hooks.
Can any package just provide the hook directories it want without an
explicit policy? And can any package provide hooks in such directories,
even
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 18:43:23 +0100
Bjørn Mork wrote:
> Can any package just provide the hook directories it want without an
> explicit policy?
A general policy for all hooks sounds like a difficult thing to create
- it could easily be so nebulous as to be unusable. Probably better for
each pack
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 12:43 PM, Bjørn Mork wrote:
> My claim is that packages like unattended-upgrades and pm-utils are
> completely unrelated to each other, and that a hook in
> unattended-upgrades which breaks pm-utils by preventing hibernation is a
> critical bug, even if the breakage seems i
James Vega writes:
> On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 12:43 PM, Bjørn Mork wrote:
>> My claim is that packages like unattended-upgrades and pm-utils are
>> completely unrelated to each other, and that a hook in
>> unattended-upgrades which breaks pm-utils by preventing hibernation is a
>> critical bug, ev
Mike Bird dijo [Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 10:51:43AM -0800]:
> > KDE4 is crap, world+dog know that. Use GNOME, XFCE or whatever. If you
> > want KDE3 in Debian, then put your money where your mouth is and
> > come maintain it.
>
> That is well known. KDE 4 maintainers cannot keep up with
> the bug rep
Neil Williams writes:
> On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 18:43:23 +0100
> Bjørn Mork wrote:
>
>> Can any package just provide the hook directories it want without an
>> explicit policy?
>
> A general policy for all hooks sounds like a difficult thing to create
> - it could easily be so nebulous as to be unus
Mike Bird dijo [Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 01:09:39PM -0800]:
> No, I'm saying that Snn/Knn values boot some systems where
> insserv fails. Therefore Snn/Knn is superior in some cases.
> I readily concede that insserv is superior in some cases.
>
> In order to avoid breaking Debian systems we should gi
On 2011-01-17, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> Mike Bird dijo [Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 10:51:43AM -0800]:
>> That is well known. KDE 4 maintainers cannot keep up with
>> the bug reports now and will be totally overwhelmed when
>> Squeeze is released. That is not what people expect of
>> Debian Stable.
a gues
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: NeuroDebian Team
* Package name: dipy
Version : 0.5.0~dev
Upstream Author : Dipy Developers
* URL : http://nipy.org/dipy
* License : BSD
Programming Lang: Python
Description : toolbox for analysis of MR diffusio
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 20:54:12 +0100
Bjørn Mork wrote:
> Neil Williams writes:
> > On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 18:43:23 +0100
> > Bjørn Mork wrote:
> > Hook policy is in the hands of whichever package is trying to run
> > the hooks. If the hook meets the requirement of that package, it's
> > not a bug to
Neil Williams writes:
> Different package objectives. cron-apt may be what you are actually
> thinking of. Even then, I wouldn't use cron-apt on a laptop.
Well, I do like security updates to just be there and I don't like to do
sysadmin tasks. So I want some sort of automated package upgrades.
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Bjørn Mork wrote:
> James Vega writes:
>> On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 12:43 PM, Bjørn Mork wrote:
>>> My claim is that packages like unattended-upgrades and pm-utils are
>>> completely unrelated to each other, and that a hook in
>>> unattended-upgrades which breaks p
Hi, Ian:
On Monday 17 January 2011 13:32:33 Ian Jackson wrote:
> Don Armstrong writes ("Re: Why is help so hard to find?"):
> > A possible hack would be to have insserv ignore any initscripts which
> > are conffiles which when run without options exit with zero status.
>
> It could probably safely
Hi all,
I wouldn't stress the FTPmasters directly with my question and hope this
is the right list.
Is there any additional information beside
http://ftp-master.debian.org/keys.html
regarding keyhandling in Debian and what to do if key(s) (one or both)
will be compromised?
What are the rules for s
Hi,
On 2011-01-17, James Vega wrote:
>> This is what I find unacceptable about unattended-upgrades:
>> case "${1}" in
>> hibernate)
>> python
>> /usr/share/unattended-upgrades/unattended-upgrade-shutdown
>> ;;
> The bug[0] which was the impetus behind adding
Hello,
I'm trying to install Oracle9i Database server R2 on this Debian
distibution:
Linux version 2.6.26-2-686 (Debian 2.6.26-26lenny1) (da...@debian.org)
(gcc version 4.1.3 20080704 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.2-25)) #1 SMP Thu
Nov 25 01:53:57 UTC 2010
Running the Oracle Installer, show this e
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Andreas Noteng
* Package name: lastfmlib
Version : 0.4.0
Upstream Author : Dirk Vanden Boer
* URL : http://code.google.com/p/lastfmlib/
* License : GPL-2
Programming Lang: C++
Description : An implementation of
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 10:03:12PM +0100, Arturo Gutierrez wrote:
> Hello,
> I'm trying to install Oracle9i Database server R2 on this Debian
> distibution:
> Linux version 2.6.26-2-686 (Debian 2.6.26-26lenny1) (da...@debian.org)
> (gcc version 4.1.3 20080704 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.2-25)) #1
On 17.01.2011 20:54, Bjørn Mork wrote:
>
> OK, sounds kind of reasonable. Except that I think I have to remove
> pm-utils then I just cannot accept that the hibernate/resume process
> becomes as bloated as a full shutdown/reboot.
>
That sounds like the wrong way around. If you don't want
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Hrafnkell Eiriksson
* Package name: pagekite
Version : 0.3.10
Upstream Author : Bjarni Runar Einarsson
* URL : http://pagekite.net/downloads/
* License : AGPL
Programming Lang: Python
Description : Run public se
On Mon January 17 2011 11:55:24 Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> As it was already pointed out to you, such occurences were due to
> incomplete dependencies declared in the initscripts - And as such,
> they were bugs in the respective packages. The right way to fix them
> is to provide the needed dependency in
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 08:19:01PM +, Neil Williams wrote:
> > Huh? I use unattended-upgrades on my laptop as a way to keep it
> > updated without having to create the cron job myself. But I don't
> > expect it to force itself to run at times where I want to the laptop
> > to sleep.
>
> Use
Hi,
On Montag, 17. Januar 2011, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> This library file was part of the unofficial 'gcc 2.96' which Red Hat
> released some years ago (RHL 7.3 / RHEL 2.1). I don't think it was
> included in any Debian release, but you might be able to install it
> from an RPM using 'alien'.
htt
On Mon January 17 2011 11:46:05 Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> But given that nobody has stepped up to package Trinity
> for Debian, I can only assume KDE4 is good enough for them.
Trinity is packaged for Debian[1]. The problem is that KDE SC
quite unnecessarily took over the KDE package namespace, making
Mike Bird dijo [Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 02:44:31PM -0800]:
> > But given that nobody has stepped up to package Trinity
> > for Debian, I can only assume KDE4 is good enough for them.
>
> Trinity is packaged for Debian[1]. The problem is that KDE SC
> quite unnecessarily took over the KDE package nam
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:43:27PM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Montag, 17. Januar 2011, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > This library file was part of the unofficial 'gcc 2.96' which Red Hat
> > released some years ago (RHL 7.3 / RHEL 2.1). I don't think it was
> > included in any Debian rel
Le Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 01:17:23PM +0100, Christoph Anton Mitterer a écrit :
>
> I've also wondered whether it is allowed (or not), when having a Files
> paragraph, that contains the verbatim license (not referring to a
> standalone License tag), e.g.:
> >Files: *
> >License: FOO
> > This is my wo
Hi Manoj,
Could you please briefly outline (or may be you have it described
somewhere already) the setup of your SELinux-fortified building
environment? I am still boiling the idea of securing/monitoring build
environment, issue I have raised in "securing/monitoring Debian devel
environment" thre
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 5:03 AM, Arturo Gutierrez
wrote:
> Hello,
> I'm trying to install Oracle9i Database server R2 on this Debian
> distibution:
> Linux version 2.6.26-2-686 (Debian 2.6.26-26lenny1) (da...@debian.org) (gcc
> version 4.1.3 20080704 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.2-25)) #1 SMP Thu Nov
Hi,
1st place, sorry by my english, i expected be understood :-)
i wanna be future DM so have to get some things before right!?, i read it
many docs before start like debian policy, the machine, and the others
and now have to always tab the guide-maint, to see all steps, have the gpg
sign key at s
Michael Biebl wrote:
> Also; You said, the hook breaks suspend/hibernate. I don't agree this is the
> case. If there is no upgrade running, the hook will exit immediately.
> If there is an upgrade running, the hook simply blocks until the upgrade has
> finished. Suspend/Hibernate is still not 100%
Arturo Gutierrez wrote:
> /oracle/tmp/OraInstall2011-01-17_02-30-24PM/jre/bin/i386/native_threads/java:
> error while loading shared libraries:
> libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such
> file or directory
Fortunately this library is still available in the archive.
htt
On 2011-01-17, Jean-Christophe Dubacq wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 08:19:01PM +, Neil Williams wrote:
>> > Huh? I use unattended-upgrades on my laptop as a way to keep it
>> > updated without having to create the cron job myself. But I don't
>> > expect it to force itself to run at times
Tony Peña writes:
> Hi,
> 1st place, sorry by my english, i expected be understood :-)
>
> i wanna be future DM so have to get some things before right!?, i read it
> many docs before start like debian policy, the machine, and the others
> and now have to always tab the guide-maint, to see all st
Given that i was told that you can deterministically determine which
file would run first DEBIAN/control _or_ DEBIAN/preinst, I have this
following query.
I want to source a common file between these two scripts to ensure
that if the package cant automatically detect sane values, it prompt
the us
Hi,
your questions are probably better answered on
debian-ment...@lists.debian.org.
On Tue, 18 Jan 2011, harish badrinath wrote:
> Given that i was told that you can deterministically determine which
> file would run first DEBIAN/control _or_ DEBIAN/preinst, I have this
> following query.
You me
On 18/01/2011 07:53, Philipp Kern wrote:
> | This script can install security upgrades automatically and
> | unattended. However, it is not enabled by default. Most users
> | enable it via the Software Sources programm (available in
> | System/Administration), which has a simple radiobutton in the
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