Re: broken upload

2010-06-29 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 12161 March 1977, Russell Coker wrote: > Below are two messages I have received after attempts to upload a new > refpolicy package. I first tried via FTP but the 3G Internet connection I'm > using gives me a 10.0.0.0/24 address with NAT that doesn't support FTP, so I > ended up with a zero

Re: xulrunner 1.9.2 into sid?

2010-06-29 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 02:57:32AM -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote: > Mozilla actively makes it hard to stay up to date > (by providing as little information as possible in their advisories); > webkit (for the most part except for Apple announcements) makes it > easy. This means security fixes are go

Re: xulrunner 1.9.2 into sid?

2010-06-29 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 29 juin 2010 à 02:57 -0400, Michael Gilbert a écrit : > Losing mozilla wouldn't be that significant of an loss since there > are plenty of other good options nowadays (webkit, konquerer, chromium, > etc.), which wasn't the case a year or so ago. I would love to get rid of it, but unfortun

Bug#587494: ITP: xgks -- X11 Graphical Kernel System

2010-06-29 Thread Alastair McKinstry
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Alastair McKinstry * Package name: xgks Version : 2.6 Upstream Author : UCAR/Unidata * URL : http://xgks.sourceforge.net/ * License : BSD Programming Lang: C, Fortran Description : X11 Graphical Kernel System XG

Re: xulrunner 1.9.2 into sid?

2010-06-29 Thread Adam Borowski
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 02:57:32AM -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote: > and engage in poor supportability/secuirity practices (using embedded > code copies instead of system libraries) [0]. This path is > unnacceptable for Debian. > > In my personal opinion, the only viable option left is to drop all >

Re: xulrunner 1.9.2 into sid?

2010-06-29 Thread Evgeni Golov
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 11:57:20AM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > [1]. A Chromium extension named "AdBlock" exists, but it merely hides the > junk after downloading them -- so you merely don't see them while still > being subjected to slowdown, having your bandwidth stolen, being tracked, > having a

Re: xulrunner 1.9.2 into sid?

2010-06-29 Thread Adam Borowski
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 12:00:30PM +0200, Evgeni Golov wrote: > On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 11:57:20AM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > > [1]. A Chromium extension named "AdBlock" exists, but it merely hides the > > junk after downloading them -- so you merely don't see them while still > > being subjecte

Re: xulrunner 1.9.2 into sid?

2010-06-29 Thread Aaron Toponce
On 06/29/2010 03:57 AM, Adam Borowski wrote: > [1]. A Chromium extension named "AdBlock" exists, but it merely hides the > junk after downloading them -- so you merely don't see them while still > being subjected to slowdown, having your bandwidth stolen, being tracked, > having advertising scripts

Re: xulrunner 1.9.2 into sid?

2010-06-29 Thread Adam Borowski
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 04:57:53AM -0600, Aaron Toponce wrote: > On 06/29/2010 03:57 AM, Adam Borowski wrote: > > [2]. Chromium doesn't even understand the concept of session cookies. It > > does allow purging cookies at exit -- but that applies to all cookies,

Re: broken upload

2010-06-29 Thread Adam Borowski
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 04:06:17PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > Below are two messages I have received after attempts to upload a new > refpolicy package. I first tried via FTP but the 3G Internet connection I'm > using gives me a 10.0.0.0/24 address with NAT that doesn't support FTP, Are you

Re: xulrunner 1.9.2 into sid?

2010-06-29 Thread Aaron Toponce
On 06/29/2010 05:16 AM, Adam Borowski wrote: > Uhm, and that gets me what? It would nuke all cookies, including those > which are supposed to last beyond the session. Touche. I misread your post, and Chromium's ability to do this by default. Apologies. -- . O . O . O . . O O . . . O . .

Bug#587514: ITP: cpupowerd -- daemon for frequency and voltage control of AMD K8 CPUs with undervolting/overvolting capability

2010-06-29 Thread Antti J. Salminen
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Antti J. Salminen" * Package name: cpupowerd Version : 0.2.1 Upstream Author : Markus Strobl * URL : http://cpupowerd.sourceforge.net/ * License : GPL-2 Programming Lang: C Description : daemon for frequency an

Bug#587521: ITP: dose3

2010-06-29 Thread Ralf Treinen
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Ralf Treinen Package name:dose3 Version: 0.7 Upstream Author: Pietro Abate URL: http://gforge.info.ucl.ac.be/frs/download.php/160/dose3-0.7.tar.gz Licence: GPL >=3 Programming Language: OCaml Tentative Description: Dose3 is a framework made o

Bug#587522: ITP: twms -- tiny WMS service

2010-06-29 Thread Andrew O. Shadoura
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Andrew O. Shadoura" * Package name: twms Version : 0.01q Upstream Author : Darafei Praliaskouski * URL : http://code.google.com/p/twms/ * License : GPL-3+ Programming Lang: Python Description : tiny WMS service

Re: Bug#587514: ITP: cpupowerd -- daemon for frequency and voltage control of AMD K8 CPUs with undervolting/overvolting capability

2010-06-29 Thread Michael Biebl
On 29.06.2010 14:48, Antti J. Salminen wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: "Antti J. Salminen" > > > * Package name: cpupowerd > Version : 0.2.1 > Upstream Author : Markus Strobl > * URL : http://cpupowerd.sourceforge.net/ > * License : GPL-2

Re: Bug#587514: ITP: cpupowerd -- daemon for frequency and voltage control of AMD K8 CPUs with undervolting/overvolting capability

2010-06-29 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On 29/06/2010 16:00, Michael Biebl wrote: > What features does it have over existing packages? And why not using ondemand? Is AMD support bad? -- Yves-Alexis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.deb

Re: Essentiality of Bash

2010-06-29 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le dimanche 27 juin 2010 à 14:27 +0200, Marc Haber a écrit : > The problem is that we don't properly distinguish between "foo needs > bar during installation or foo's installation will fail" and "foo > needs bar to be installed or foo will not work". One could express > this via Recommends, but the

Re: Bug#587514: ITP: cpupowerd -- daemon for frequency and voltage control of AMD K8 CPUs with undervolting/overvolting capability

2010-06-29 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 29 juin 2010 à 16:05 +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez a écrit : > On 29/06/2010 16:00, Michael Biebl wrote: > > What features does it have over existing packages? > > And why not using ondemand? Is AMD support bad? Well, some CPUs (like the L110) don’t support it with a stock kernel. I haven’t

Re: Bug#587514: ITP: cpupowerd -- daemon for frequency and voltage control of AMD K8 CPUs with undervolting/overvolting capability

2010-06-29 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 04:10:26PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le mardi 29 juin 2010 à 16:05 +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez a écrit : > > On 29/06/2010 16:00, Michael Biebl wrote: > > > What features does it have over existing packages? > > > > And why not using ondemand? Is AMD support bad? > > W

Re: xulrunner 1.9.2 into sid?

2010-06-29 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 11:57:20 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 02:57:32AM -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote: > > and engage in poor supportability/secuirity practices (using embedded > > code copies instead of system libraries) [0]. This path is > > unnacceptable for Debian. > > > >

Re: xulrunner 1.9.2 into sid?

2010-06-29 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 11:24:00AM -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote: > No, my proposal is to move the package to a better home: backports. Same question as for Md with volatile: apt-cache rdepends xulrunner-1.9.1 libmozjs2d libwebkit-1.0-2 What do you do with these packages ? backports too ? Do you

Re: xulrunner 1.9.2 into sid?

2010-06-29 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 09:37:46 +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 02:57:32AM -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote: > > Mozilla actively makes it hard to stay up to date > > (by providing as little information as possible in their advisories); > > webkit (for the most part except for Apple an

Re: all twitter client should support OAuth before they will drop Basic Auth in August

2010-06-29 Thread Hideki Yamane
Hi, On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 19:21:52 +0200 Luk Claes wrote: >Will they also not be usable anymore with identi.ca and similar twitter >like services? If not, there is no reason to have them dropped AFAICS. I haven't known about similar services are there, thanks! However, at least remove "twitter"

Re: all twitter client should support OAuth before they will drop Basic Auth in August

2010-06-29 Thread Hideki Yamane
Hi Carlos, On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 17:28:00 +0200 Carlos Galisteo wrote: > Waiting for qoauth [1]. Thanks! I haven't heard about it. Choqok author seems to make a fork from that, see http://momeny.wordpress.com/2010/06/09/kde-oauth/#comment-248 >Please, notice that oauth may imply some issues ab

Re: all twitter client should support OAuth before they will drop Basic Auth in August

2010-06-29 Thread Hideki Yamane
Hi Sune, On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 15:25:10 + (UTC) Sune Vuorela wrote: > plasma-widgets-addons (microblog widget) Thanks, added. Is plasma part of KDE, right? If so, as Carlos suggests qoauth (or forked one) will help that if someone would package it, I guess. -- Regards, Hideki Yamane

Re: xulrunner 1.9.2 into sid?

2010-06-29 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 11:35:28AM -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote: > On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 09:37:46 +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 02:57:32AM -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote: > > > Mozilla actively makes it hard to stay up to date > > > (by providing as little information as possibl

Re: xulrunner 1.9.2 into sid?

2010-06-29 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 17:39:57 +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 11:35:28AM -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote: > > On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 09:37:46 +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 02:57:32AM -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote: > > > > Mozilla actively makes it hard to stay

Re: xulrunner 1.9.2 into sid?

2010-06-29 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 17:29:20 +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 11:24:00AM -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote: > > No, my proposal is to move the package to a better home: backports. > > Same question as for Md with volatile: > > apt-cache rdepends xulrunner-1.9.1 libmozjs2d libwebkit-

Re: xulrunner 1.9.2 into sid?

2010-06-29 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2010-06-29, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 11:24:00AM -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote: >> No, my proposal is to move the package to a better home: backports. > Same question as for Md with volatile: > apt-cache rdepends xulrunner-1.9.1 libmozjs2d libwebkit-1.0-2 > What do you do with

Re: xulrunner 1.9.2 into sid?

2010-06-29 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 11:03:19 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le mardi 29 juin 2010 à 02:57 -0400, Michael Gilbert a écrit : > > Losing mozilla wouldn't be that significant of an loss since there > > are plenty of other good options nowadays (webkit, konquerer, chromium, > > etc.), which wasn't the

Re: all twitter client should support OAuth before they will drop Basic Auth in August

2010-06-29 Thread Carlos Galisteo
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Hideki Yamane wrote: >  Thanks, added. Is plasma part of KDE, right? If so, as Carlos suggests >  qoauth (or forked one) will help that if someone would package it, I guess. Noah Meyerhans (choqok maintainer) took over the qoauth ITP some days ago, so I'm sure th

Re: xulrunner 1.9.2 into sid?

2010-06-29 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 11:51:47AM -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote: > The point I was trying to make in that paragraph is that there are two > browser codebases (webkit and mozilla) that need to be supported, which > could be halved by dropping one. As long as there are people to support both, why d

Re: xulrunner 1.9.2 into sid?

2010-06-29 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 12:06:04PM -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote: > On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 17:29:20 +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 11:24:00AM -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote: > > > No, my proposal is to move the package to a better home: backports. > > > > Same question as for Md w

Re: xulrunner 1.9.2 into sid?

2010-06-29 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 18:31:09 +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 12:06:04PM -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote: > > On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 17:29:20 +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 11:24:00AM -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote: > > > > No, my proposal is to move the package

Re: xulrunner 1.9.2 into sid?

2010-06-29 Thread Joey Hess
Mike Hommey wrote: > On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 11:51:47AM -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote: > > The point I was trying to make in that paragraph is that there are two > > browser codebases (webkit and mozilla) that need to be supported, which > > could be halved by dropping one. > > As long as there ar

Re: xulrunner 1.9.2 into sid?

2010-06-29 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 12:35:19 -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Mike Hommey wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 11:51:47AM -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote: > > > The point I was trying to make in that paragraph is that there are two > > > browser codebases (webkit and mozilla) that need to be supported, which >

Re: Bootloaders BoF at DebConf?

2010-06-29 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 11:56:45PM +0200, Joachim Wiedorn wrote: > Colin Watson wrote on 2010-06-21 22:22: > > There've been several bootloader-related threads here of late, and > > grub2, lilo, and syslinux all seem to have fairly active work happening > > on them. (For all I know the same may b

Re: Bootloaders BoF at DebConf?

2010-06-29 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 09:36:54AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 10:22:35PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > There've been several bootloader-related threads here of late, and > > grub2, lilo, and syslinux all seem to have fairly active work happening > > on them. (For a

Re: all twitter client should support OAuth before they will drop Basic Auth in August

2010-06-29 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 08:54:55PM +0900, Hideki Yamane wrote: > > Waiting for qoauth [1]. > > Thanks! I haven't heard about it. Choqok author seems to make a fork from > that, see http://momeny.wordpress.com/2010/06/09/kde-oauth/#comment-248 There's no need for a qoauth fork. The change is be

Re: all twitter client should support OAuth before they will drop Basic Auth in August

2010-06-29 Thread Marcus Better
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sune Vuorela wrote: > plasma-widgets-addons (microblog widget) OAuth support added upstream: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=242048 Cheers, Marcus -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkwqP1sACgkQXjXn6T

Re: xulrunner 1.9.2 into sid?

2010-06-29 Thread Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
Hi! Am 29.06.2010 17:24, schrieb Michael Gilbert: > No, my proposal is to move the package to a better home: backports. You don't know the current policies WRT packages in backports and about their reasoning, do you? Best regards, Alexander -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...

Re: xulrunner 1.9.2 into sid?

2010-06-29 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 20:58:11 +0200, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: > Hi! > > Am 29.06.2010 17:24, schrieb Michael Gilbert: > > > No, my proposal is to move the package to a better home: backports. > > You don't know the current policies WRT packages in backports and about > their reasoning, do

Re: xulrunner 1.9.2 into sid?

2010-06-29 Thread Alexander Wirt
Michael Gilbert schrieb am Tuesday, den 29. June 2010: Hi, > In my personal opinion, the only viable option left is to drop all > mozilla and mozilla-depending packages from main, and provide them in > backports (as suggested already in another message in this thread). > Backports' rolling relea

Re: xulrunner 1.9.2 into sid?

2010-06-29 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
Hi! * Michael Gilbert [2010-06-29 21:50:31 CEST]: > On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 20:58:11 +0200, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: > > Am 29.06.2010 17:24, schrieb Michael Gilbert: > > > > > No, my proposal is to move the package to a better home: backports. > > > > You don't know the current pol

Re: xulrunner 1.9.2 into sid?

2010-06-29 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 12:35:19PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > This apparently well-meaning idea that we can improve Debian's > security etc by talking people out of doing jobs that they have > volunteered to do, and are doing, is a recent trend that I really > don't understand. Amen. On Tue, Jun

Re: xulrunner 1.9.2 into sid?

2010-06-29 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
* Philipp Kern [2010-06-28 11:55:22 CEST]: > On 2010-06-28, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > If there is no manpower to do better than this then I feel that it would > > be more honest to just use volatile. > > The catch-all for "I can't maintain this stuff properly"[1] is not volatile, > but backports.

Re: xulrunner 1.9.2 into sid?

2010-06-29 Thread James Vega
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Michael Gilbert wrote: > On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 20:58:11 +0200, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: >> Hi! >> >> Am 29.06.2010 17:24, schrieb Michael Gilbert: >> >> > No, my proposal is to move the package to a better home: backports. >> >> You don't know the current pol

Re: xulrunner 1.9.2 into sid?

2010-06-29 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 22:25:06 +0200, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: > Hi! > > * Michael Gilbert [2010-06-29 21:50:31 CEST]: > > On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 20:58:11 +0200, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: > > > Am 29.06.2010 17:24, schrieb Michael Gilbert: > > > > > > > No, my proposal is to move the packag

Re: xulrunner 1.9.2 into sid?

2010-06-29 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 22:26:04 +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 12:35:19PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > > This apparently well-meaning idea that we can improve Debian's > > security etc by talking people out of doing jobs that they have > > volunteered to do, and are doing, is

Re: xulrunner 1.9.2 into sid?

2010-06-29 Thread Philipp Kern
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 10:39:20PM +0200, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: > * Philipp Kern [2010-06-28 11:55:22 CEST]: > > On 2010-06-28, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > > If there is no manpower to do better than this then I feel that it would > > > be more honest to just use volatile. > > The catch-all for "I ca

Re: Bootloaders BoF at DebConf?

2010-06-29 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Dienstag, 29. Juni 2010, Colin Watson wrote: > DebConf recorded video is usually very good (is that the case for all > BoFs?), It pretty much depends where the BoF is scheduled. As I understand it, there might be several rooms for BoFs to happen, but only the two main room will be covere

Re: Call for Testing: initramfs-tools 0.97

2010-06-29 Thread Michael Prokop
* Joachim Wiedorn [Sun Jun 27, 2010 at 05:03:02PM +0200]: > Michael Prokop wrote on 2010-06-18 23:48: > > we - the initramfs-tools maintainers in Debian - want to provide a > > solid initramfs-tools version for squeeze. The new release 0.97 is > > expected to fix many longstanding problems. It w

Re: xulrunner 1.9.2 into sid?

2010-06-29 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 17:07:27 -0400 Michael Gilbert wrote: > Hopefully restating clearly this time: my proposal is to no longer > distribute mozilla packages in the main stable repository; instead they > can be maintained in backports (or volatile) at the choosing of the > maintainers of those packa

Re: xulrunner 1.9.2 into sid?

2010-06-29 Thread Russ Allbery
Michael Gilbert writes: > In the following lists, I break down the advantages and disadvantages of > each approach. If there are other thoughts, I would be happy to see > them included. > Advantages of switching to backports: > - very simple for the maintainers to keep up to date with respect t

Re: all twitter client should support OAuth before they will drop Basic Auth in August

2010-06-29 Thread Mauro Lizaur
2010-06-28, Hideki Yamane: > Hi, > > As I reported in Bug#587420, all twitter client should support OAuth since > twitter > will discard basic auth. If they not, we should drop them from Squeeze > release. > > These lists are assumed to be affected packages (got with "apt-cache search >

Purpose and policy of the future backports.debian.org.

2010-06-29 Thread Charles Plessy
Dear Alexander, backport.org people, and everybody, If I understand correctly, it is planned to incorporate the backports.org service as an official Debian repository. I would like to know if the policy of use for backports.debian.org has already been discussed, drafted or decided. In particular:

chromium-browser in Debian Sid

2010-06-29 Thread Aaron Toponce
I just noticed that the chromium-browser package releases in Debian GNU/Linux unstable are synced version-for-version with the google-chrome beta package provided by the 3rd party Google Linux repository. Is this intentional? What's the rationale behind using the beta releases for chromium-browser

Re: Purpose and policy of the future backports.debian.org.

2010-06-29 Thread Alexander Wirt
Hi, > Dear Alexander, backport.org people, and everybody, > > If I understand correctly, it is planned to incorporate the backports.org > service as an official Debian repository. Thats true. > > I would like to know if the policy of use for backports.debian.org has already > been discussed, d

Re: xulrunner 1.9.2 into sid?

2010-06-29 Thread Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
Hi! Am 29.06.2010 22:52, schrieb Michael Gilbert: >>> I believe I do. Backports are for recompilations of unstable packages >>> for the stable releases. >> Thanks for excellently stating that you do *not* know about what is >> backports about and for, you couldn't have done that better. > The s