Re: lilo removal in squeeze (or, "please test grub2")

2010-05-30 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 04:51:09PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > >Right, but also note that there's an open RFH on grub2 #248397 > >(retitled/refreshed recently, despite the low bug number). > > As long as there are tested-and-ready-to-apply[1] patches rotting away > in the BTS without any comments,

Re: Meaning of the different “format” fields and files.

2010-05-30 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sat, 29 May 2010, Charles Plessy wrote: > Thanks for the pointer. I sent a patch for the Policy to this bug report. I > agree with the comment of Manoj in message #15 that the Format field of the > Debian source control files would have better been called Src-Format or > something similar. Do yo

Re: lilo removal in squeeze (or, "please test grub2")

2010-05-30 Thread Stanislav Maslovski
On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 04:43:32PM -0400, Stephen Powell wrote: > On Sat, 29 May 2010 14:40:41 -0400 (EDT), Andreas Barth wrote: > > Stephen Powell wrote: > >> On Sat, 22 May 2010 23:39:52 -0400 (EDT), William Pitcock wrote: > >>> After some discussion about lilo on #debian-devel in IRC, it has pre

hashing username => UID

2010-05-30 Thread C. Gatzemeier
Am Sat, 29 May 2010 16:51:10 +0200 schrieb Marc Haber : > hash the user name into the UID since this will - at least on systems > with only a handful of users - enhance the chance that the same user > name will get the same UID on different systems. That could be quite nice, yes. -- To UNSUBSC

Re: Archive area for clamz (Amazon MP3 downloader)

2010-05-30 Thread Ron Johnson
On 05/29/2010 09:47 PM, Ben Hutchings wrote: On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 19:33 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/29/2010 03:28 PM, Ben Hutchings wrote: On Sat, 2010-05-29 at 21:14 +0200, Felix Geyer wrote: clamz [1] has been rejected from Debian NEW [2] some time ago. The FTP assistent that processed

Re: Bug#529974: RFP: rtmpdump -- download media streamed with the RTMP/RTMPE protocol

2010-05-30 Thread Ron Johnson
On 05/29/2010 12:25 AM, Reinhard Tartler wrote: On Fr, Mai 28, 2010 at 22:49:43 (CEST), Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/28/2010 09:20 AM, Reinhard Tartler wrote: On Fr, Mai 28, 2010 at 16:00:27 (CEST), Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/28/2010 01:25 AM, Reinhard Tartler wrote: I'm going to package rtmpdump

Bug#583749: ITP: xkbind -- X Keyboard Extension Indicator

2010-05-30 Thread Stanislav Maslovski
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Stanislav Maslovski * Package name: xkbind Version : 2010.05.20 Upstream Author : CHG * URL : http://xkbind.sourceforge.net/ * License : GPL2 Programming Lang: C Description : X Keyboard Extension Indicator The

Re: Archive area for clamz (Amazon MP3 downloader)

2010-05-30 Thread Luca Niccoli
On 30 May 2010 04:47, Ben Hutchings wrote: > I think the policy being applied is that if a package is only useful in > conjunction with non-free data, it belongs in contrib (just as if it > depends on some non-free library). I see a potential problem with this policy: say I write a DFSG-complian

Re: Bug#529974: RFP: rtmpdump -- download media streamed with the RTMP/RTMPE protocol

2010-05-30 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le vendredi 28 mai 2010 à 15:49 -0500, Ron Johnson a écrit : > > I didn't look inside the source package nor do I intend to do so. I note > > that it doesn't provide an librtmp-dev package, so it's useless for me. > > Even when you need to reinvent the wheel, it's usually useful to see > how othe

Re: Improving in-place upgrades of Ada packages from Lenny to Squeeze

2010-05-30 Thread David Kalnischkies
2010/5/29 Ludovic Brenta : > David Kalnischkies writes: >> No. Replaces is used to say to dpkg: It is okay that this package >> overrides files of the other package - otherwise dpkg would complain >> loudly for good reasons. It doesn't say something about the >> upgrade path. > > I disagree with t

Re: The story behind UPG and umask.

2010-05-30 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Marc Haber said: > On Wed, 26 May 2010 23:43:12 +0100, Stephen Gran > wrote: > >This one time, at band camp, Roger Leigh said: > >> How will adduser cope with group addition; does it skip UIDs until > >> it finds an unused unique UID/GID pair? > > > >That certainly is

[SOLVED] Unbootable after kernel upgrade: Lilo can't load kernel

2010-05-30 Thread Stephen Powell
This is not a lilo bug. The problem is that lilo's map installer did not get run during the kernel upgrade process. The fact that the user was able to boot his old de-installed kernel is proof of this. The /boot/map file still pointed to the blocks in the file system which formerly contained the

Re: Archive area for clamz (Amazon MP3 downloader)

2010-05-30 Thread Martin Wuertele
* Luca Niccoli [2010-05-30 14:31]: > I see a potential problem with this policy: > say I write a DFSG-compliant media player, and I want to add the > ability to download songs from Amazon; I then depend on clamz. > But clamz is in contrib, so my media player must go into contrib, even > though it

Re: Archive area for clamz (Amazon MP3 downloader)

2010-05-30 Thread Luca Niccoli
On 30 May 2010 16:56, Martin Wuertele wrote: > You could suggest clamz und detect runtime if it is present. That would > allow your package to go in main and still use the funtionality of clamz > in case it was installed. Sure; what I wanted to point out (and I probably wasn't clear about it) is

setgid umask override versus global umask change

2010-05-30 Thread Mike Bird
What, I wonder, would be the consequences of setgid directories overring umask, rather than a system wide umask change? We could leave umask set to 0022 but when creating files and directories in setgid directories the 0020 bit of the umask would itself be masked out. This would seem to localize

same UIDs across multiple systems

2010-05-30 Thread C. Gatzemeier
Am Sun, 30 May 2010 15:02:41 +0100 schrieb Stephen Gran : > There are already well understood mechanisms for ensuring that uids > are the same across multiple systems. I don't think adduser is the > place for that. Do you have a debian pointer maybe? I am asking because the following suggests a

Re: setgid umask override versus global umask change

2010-05-30 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sun, 2010-05-30 at 09:44 -0700, Mike Bird wrote: > What, I wonder, would be the consequences of setgid directories > overring umask, rather than a system wide umask change? > > We could leave umask set to 0022 but when creating files and > directories in setgid directories the 0020 bit of the u

Re: Archive area for clamz (Amazon MP3 downloader)

2010-05-30 Thread Felix Geyer
On 30.05.2010 04:47, Ben Hutchings wrote: > I think the policy being applied is that if a package is only useful in > conjunction with non-free data, it belongs in contrib (just as if it > depends on some non-free library). > Many applications use downloaded non-free content. For example applic

Re: same UIDs across multiple systems

2010-05-30 Thread Luk Claes
On 05/30/2010 07:57 PM, C. Gatzemeier wrote: > Am Sun, 30 May 2010 15:02:41 +0100 > schrieb Stephen Gran : > >> There are already well understood mechanisms for ensuring that uids >> are the same across multiple systems. I don't think adduser is the >> place for that. I guess you should have a d

Re: setgid umask override versus global umask change

2010-05-30 Thread C. Gatzemeier
Am Sun, 30 May 2010 09:44:49 -0700 schrieb Mike Bird : > This would seem to be a trival kernel patch, whether implemented > alone or together with a /sys control to enable/disable it. > > Can anyone see any downside? I guess the interface would be quite different. Checking the current umask and

Re: same UIDs across multiple systems

2010-05-30 Thread C. Gatzemeier
Am Sun, 30 May 2010 20:13:31 +0200 schrieb Luk Claes: > > I guess you should have a deeper look into the possibilities of nss so > you don't need to sync /etc/passwd and similar files across systems, Ah thanks, you were thinking NIS networked shared database. I was thinking, say if I would give

Re: setgid umask override versus global umask change

2010-05-30 Thread Bastian Blank
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 09:44:49AM -0700, Mike Bird wrote: > What, I wonder, would be the consequences of setgid directories > overring umask, rather than a system wide umask change? Use POSIX ACLs for this. Bastian -- "We have the right to survive!" "Not by killing others."

Anounce of a secure repo for debian

2010-05-30 Thread Klaus Ethgen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi, cause of the recent umask disaster I decided to start a repository for packages which are insecure in debian distribution. You can find this repository at ftp://ftp.ethgen.de/pub/debian-security (deb ftp://ftp.ethgen.de/pub/debian-security sid

Re: [SOLVED] Unbootable after kernel upgrade: Lilo can't load kernel

2010-05-30 Thread Frans Pop
reopen 505609 reassign 505609 linux-2.6 affects 505609 lilo thanks Stephen Powell wrote: > The real question is, "Why didn't the map installer get run during > the kernel upgrade?" [...] > So is this a bug in the kernel maintainer scripts? Or is it a feature? > I don't know. I'll leave that up

Bug#583805: ITP: haskell-colour -- A model for human colour/color perception

2010-05-30 Thread Marco Túlio Gontijo e Silva
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Marco Túlio Gontijo e Silva" * Package name: haskell-colour Version : 2.3.1 Upstream Author : Russell O'Connor * URL : http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Colour * License : X11/MIT Programming Lang: Haskell Descript

Bug#583810: ITP: haskell-diagrams -- An EDSL for creating simple diagrams

2010-05-30 Thread Marco Túlio Gontijo e Silva
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Marco Túlio Gontijo e Silva" * Package name: haskell-diagrams Version : 0.2.1.2 Upstream Author : Brent Yorgey * URL : http://code.haskell.org/diagrams * License : BSD3 Programming Lang: Haskell Description : An

Re: Anounce of a secure repo for debian

2010-05-30 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2010-05-30, Klaus Ethgen wrote: > cause of the recent umask disaster I decided to start a repository for > packages which are insecure in debian distribution. Might want to take your propaganda elsewhere? Thanks! Take care Philipp Kern -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@list

ITP: cutechess -- Qt commandline and graphical user interface for chess engine matches

2010-05-30 Thread Oliver Korff
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Oliver Korff * Package name: cutechess Version : 20100529+0.2.2+0.0.1 Upstream Author : Ilari Pihlajisto , Arto Jonsson * URL : http://ajonsson.kapsi.fi/cutechess.html * License : GPL Programming Lang: Qt Descrip

Re: Improving in-place upgrades of Ada packages from Lenny to Squeeze

2010-05-30 Thread Ludovic Brenta
David Kalnischkies writes: > 2010/5/29 Ludovic Brenta : >> David Kalnischkies writes: >>> No. Replaces is used to say to dpkg: It is okay that this package >>> overrides files of the other package - otherwise dpkg would complain >>> loudly for good reasons. It doesn't say something about the >>>

Re: Anounce of a secure repo for debian

2010-05-30 Thread Mike Bird
On Sun May 30 2010 11:12:49 Klaus Ethgen wrote: > cause of the recent umask disaster I decided to start a repository for > packages which are insecure in debian distribution. > > You can find this repository at ftp://ftp.ethgen.de/pub/debian-security > (deb ftp://ftp.ethgen.de/pub/debian-security s

Re: Archive area for clamz (Amazon MP3 downloader)

2010-05-30 Thread brian m. carlson
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 08:09:52PM +0200, Felix Geyer wrote: > On 30.05.2010 04:47, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > I think the policy being applied is that if a package is only useful in > > conjunction with non-free data, it belongs in contrib (just as if it > > depends on some non-free library). > >

Bug#583826: RFH: chromium-browser -- Chromium browser

2010-05-30 Thread Giuseppe Iuculano
Package: wnpp Severity: normal -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I request assistance with maintaining the chromium-browser package. In reality, the team mentioned in the Maintainer field currently consists of me. This package really needs a team to work on it. Alioth project: https

Software untuk Toko/Swalayan/Restoran/dll -- Gratis -- Terbatas -- Ayo Cepat Download !!

2010-05-30 Thread PT Asli Indonesia 2
Software AlfaPOS (Point of Sales) Software AlfaPOS sudah terbukti sukses diimplementasikan diberbagai jenis bisnis retail sejak tahun 2006. Bidang usaha yang wajib menggunakan AlfaPOS : - Swalayan/Minimarket/Supermarket - Toko Komputer/HP/Elektronik/Kelontong/ATK/Buku/Fotokopi - Toko Bangunan/Ke

Re: Archive area for clamz (Amazon MP3 downloader)

2010-05-30 Thread Ron Johnson
On 05/30/2010 04:40 PM, brian m. carlson wrote: On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 08:09:52PM +0200, Felix Geyer wrote: On 30.05.2010 04:47, Ben Hutchings wrote: I think the policy being applied is that if a package is only useful in conjunction with non-free data, it belongs in contrib (just as if it dep

Bug#583845: ITP: mdbus -- DBus introspection utility

2010-05-30 Thread Sebastian Reichel
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Sebastian Reichel * Package name: mdbus Version : 2.0.1~git20100529 Upstream Author : Michael 'Mickey' Lauer * URL : http://www.freesmartphone.org/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: Vala Description : DBus intros

Re: Anounce of a secure repo for debian

2010-05-30 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Klaus Ethgen (kl...@ethgen.de): > Hi, > > cause of the recent umask disaster I decided to start a repository for > packages which are insecure in debian distribution. > > You can find this repository at ftp://ftp.ethgen.de/pub/debian-security > (deb ftp://ftp.ethgen.de/pub/debian-security

Re: Archive area for clamz (Amazon MP3 downloader)

2010-05-30 Thread sean finney
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 09:40:48PM +, brian m. carlson wrote: > The difference is that those tools provide a reasonable level of > functionality with free data. Weather information is in the public > domain because there's no originality to it. Most programs that display > lyrics or album cov

Rajesh prajapat has invited you to open a Google mail account

2010-05-30 Thread Rajesh prajapat
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Re: Archive area for clamz (Amazon MP3 downloader)

2010-05-30 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On dim., 2010-05-30 at 21:18 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > Clamz just moves some bits from Point A to Point B. I hope you don't use this as a definition of dfsg-free? Cheers, -- Yves-Alexis signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: same UIDs across multiple systems

2010-05-30 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On dim., 2010-05-30 at 20:46 +0200, C. Gatzemeier wrote: > Not a 100% sync, since any conflicts will need to be resolved, but quite > good for systems with sparse users. Also for reinstalling/replacing > systems, because it makes the IDs independent from the order in which > they were created. I'

Re: Let's write a system admin friendly mail server packaging system

2010-05-30 Thread Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe
Thomas Goirand wrote: > Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe wrote: >> Thomas Goirand wrote: >>> Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe wrote: So far this is independent of third packages which is IMHO fine and desirable. So far, this could be solved by a postfix-conf.d-snippet shipped with the amavis package