Processed: Re: Bug#575209 closed by Holger Levsen (Re: Bug#575209: general: Error resolving hostname [resent])

2010-03-25 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > reopen 575209 Bug #575209 {Done: Holger Levsen } [general] general: Error resolving hostname > reassign 575209 eglibc Bug #575209 [general] general: Error resolving hostname Bug reassigned from package 'general' to 'eglibc'. > found 575209 2.10.2

Re: Processed: ipv6 release goal

2010-03-25 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2010-03-24, Marc Haber wrote: > Marc, who has preferred language DE as well and cringes whenever a > Debian page comes up and would really love to see those in English I would like to tell content negotiation that I prefer German if the page is natively German, English if the page is natively

Re: Bug#575209 closed by Holger Levsen (Re: Bug#575209: general: Error resolving hostname [resent])

2010-03-25 Thread Fabian Greffrath
reopen 575209 reassign 575209 eglibc found 575209 2.10.2-6 found 575209 2.11-0exp6 severity 575209 important retitle 575209 Please resolv domain names with hyphens as border chars tags 575209 + patch thanks Hi Holger et al (please drop -devel out of the list of CCs if you feel this is getting of

Re: German Debian

2010-03-25 Thread Vincent Danjean
On 24/03/2010 21:43, Simon Paillard wrote: > I guess you know the existence of debian-l10n-french, whose address is > displayed at the bottom of each translated page, so that you can report > any issue like mistranslation, lack of clarity, or anything you think is > wrong ? > > Same as software, t

About new source formats for packages without patches

2010-03-25 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, Responding to http://www.linux.codehelp.co.uk/serendipity/index.php?/archives/201-lintian,-source-format-3.0-and-blog-comments.html: 1/ Instead of taking 30 minutes to explain why you don't care of the new formats, it would have been way more useful to apply the patch sitting in http:/

Re: About new source formats for packages without patches

2010-03-25 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 12:49:55PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > 2/ You explain that you have no reason to switch to the new formats. Fine. >I have explained you that I believe there are good reasons for >switching (I won't repeat the wiki page). Why are you insisting to not >switch w

Re: About new source formats for packages without patches

2010-03-25 Thread Jan Hauke Rahm
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 12:49:55PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Hi, > > Responding to > http://www.linux.codehelp.co.uk/serendipity/index.php?/archives/201-lintian,-source-format-3.0-and-blog-comments.html: Thanks, Raphael, for bringing this to a proper place! > 1/ Instead of taking 30 minut

Re: About new source formats for packages without patches

2010-03-25 Thread Mehdi Dogguy
Mike Hommey wrote: > On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 12:49:55PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: >> 2/ You explain that you have no reason to switch to the new formats. Fine. >>I have explained you that I believe there are good reasons for >>switching (I won't repeat the wiki page). Why are you insist

Re: About new source formats for packages without patches

2010-03-25 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 01:24:17PM +0100, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: > Mike Hommey wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 12:49:55PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > >> 2/ You explain that you have no reason to switch to the new formats. Fine. > >>I have explained you that I believe there are good reasons

Re: About new source formats for packages without patches

2010-03-25 Thread Mehdi Dogguy
Mike Hommey wrote: > On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 01:24:17PM +0100, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: […] >> Besides, may I remind you the existence of this page >> http://wiki.debian.org/ReleaseGoals/NewDebFormats ? > > May I remind that several persons pointed out this was not a good goal ? > This is not a reaso

Re: About new source formats for packages without patches

2010-03-25 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 12:58:39PM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote: > Why are you insisting that all DDs should switch when switching is an > effort for no benefit[1] and not switching is no effort at all ? In fact, I don't feel this is the point [1]. The new lintian warning, which triggered the various

Re: About new source formats for packages without patches

2010-03-25 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Thu, 25 Mar 2010, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 12:49:55PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > 2/ You explain that you have no reason to switch to the new formats. Fine. > >I have explained you that I believe there are good reasons for > >switching (I won't repeat the wiki p

Re: Bug#575209 closed by Holger Levsen (Re: Bug#575209: general: Error resolving hostname [resent])

2010-03-25 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Thu, 2010-03-25 at 11:21 +0100, Fabian Greffrath wrote: > reopen 575209 > reassign 575209 eglibc > found 575209 2.10.2-6 > found 575209 2.11-0exp6 > severity 575209 important > retitle 575209 Please resolv domain names with hyphens as border chars > tags 575209 + patch > thanks > > Hi Holger et

Re: Bug#575209: closed by Holger Levsen (Re: Bug#575209: general: Error resolving hostname [resent])

2010-03-25 Thread Bjørn Mork
Fabian Greffrath writes: > - Sites with domain names like do already exist! > Do you think they should be accessible by any other proprietary > operating system, but not Debian? Not really! Anyone can enter bogus data in the DNS. Neither the existence of such data nor the failure to detect it

Re: Bug#547079: login: Should set the iutf8 tty c_iflag if the locale is utf8

2010-03-25 Thread Samuel Thibault
Nicolas François, le Tue 23 Mar 2010 23:59:29 +0100, a écrit : > Is it an issue to set the utf8 flag too often? > (does it break something?, It has the converse effect as forgetting it, cf the original bug report: “ATM, if one runs cat from a VT with a UTF-8 locale, type a non-ascii character, ba

Re: Bug#575209 closed by Holger Levsen (Re: Bug#575209: general: Error resolving hostname [resent])

2010-03-25 Thread Milan P. Stanic
On Thu, 2010-03-25 at 13:15, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Thu, 2010-03-25 at 11:21 +0100, Fabian Greffrath wrote: > > - The advice in the cited RFC is already ignored. Domain names that > > start with a digit, e.g. 12345.foo.bar, can be resolved, whereas the > > RFC tells us "They [labels] must star

Re: About new source formats for packages without patches

2010-03-25 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 02:03:09PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Thu, 25 Mar 2010, Mike Hommey wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 12:49:55PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > > 2/ You explain that you have no reason to switch to the new formats. Fine. > > >I have explained you that I belie

Re: Bug#575209 closed by Holger Levsen (Re: Bug#575209: general: Error resolving hostname [resent])

2010-03-25 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 01:15:06PM +, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > - Sites with domain names like do already exist! > > Do you think they should be accessible by any other proprietary > > operating system, but not Debian? Not really! > So if Windows accepts it then it must be OK? I don't think

Re: Bug#575209 closed by Holger Levsen (Re: Bug#575209: general: Error resolving hostname [resent])

2010-03-25 Thread Fabian Greffrath
Am 25.03.2010 14:15, schrieb Ben Hutchings: So if Windows accepts it then it must be OK? I don't think we have to follow that rule. Otherwise you should be demanding support for NMB and WINS in glibc. Mac OS X, too, BTW. But that's not what I wanted to say. I wanted to say that I consider it

Re: About new source formats for packages without patches

2010-03-25 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 25 mars 2010 à 06:36 -0700, Steve Langasek a écrit : > Which derivative distribution has asked for this? Speaking with my Ubuntu > hat on, the sudden arrival of 3.0 in sid (yes, we knew it was coming > eventually, but had no inkling of a probable timeline until it was already > done) has

Re: About new source formats for packages without patches

2010-03-25 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Thu, 25 Mar 2010, Steve Langasek wrote: > And the lintian warning goes away by explicitly setting source format to 1, > so that's not standardizing on the "set of improved source formats" > /anyway/, that's just nagging maintainers to make a change to their packages > that AFAICS only helps your

Re: About new source formats for packages without patches

2010-03-25 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 03:39:11PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le jeudi 25 mars 2010 à 06:36 -0700, Steve Langasek a écrit : > > Which derivative distribution has asked for this? Speaking with my Ubuntu > > hat on, the sudden arrival of 3.0 in sid (yes, we knew it was coming > > eventually, b

Re: About new source formats for packages without patches

2010-03-25 Thread Mark Brown
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 04:07:59PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > For zless, people seem to open the debian.tar with vim or similar but I > can understand that it's less usable than a simple pager view of the > relevant files. Maybe it's a good idea to provide a debreview/debinspect > command in

Busque su pagina web en Google y no los vi

2010-03-25 Thread Marketing Online
3/25/2010 9:25:17 Hola, Busque en Google y Yahoo por Sus servicios y no los he podido encontrar. Notaran cuan importante es figurar en los primeros 10 posiciones de los buscadores, pues estarán recibiendo visitas diarias y asi tener la oportunidad de obtener mas clientes. Los invito a que in

Re: About new source formats for packages without patches

2010-03-25 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 25 mars 2010 à 08:40 -0700, Steve Langasek a écrit : > > While it is interesting to know that the lack of Ubuntu involvement into > > Debian can also lead to major breakage on your side, > But even if the fault lies entirely with Ubuntu and you think Ubuntu is evil > and should be disrega

Re: About new source formats for packages without patches

2010-03-25 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2010-03-25, Josselin Mouette wrote: > I’d expect it to be much smoother for an organization that uses Debian > tools and works with us to add missing functionality in them if needed, > than for an organization that uses its own tools. You seriously don't want to force dak upon everyone. And t

Re: About new source formats for packages without patches

2010-03-25 Thread Benjamin Drung
Am Donnerstag, den 25.03.2010, 16:16 + schrieb Philipp Kern: > On 2010-03-25, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > I’d expect it to be much smoother for an organization that uses Debian > > tools and works with us to add missing functionality in them if needed, > > than for an organization that uses it

Re: German Debian (was: Processed: ipv6 release goal)

2010-03-25 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Wed,24.Mar.10, 21:29:47, Hendrik Sattler wrote: > I don't know the english translation for "klingt irgendwie steif". "Sounds too formal?". I think you are assuming "you" to be less formal than it actually is[1]. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussion

Re: About new source formats for packages without patches

2010-03-25 Thread Julien BLACHE
Benjamin Drung wrote: Hi, > Why is there no dak and wanna-build package? Are there plans to create > such packages? Have you ever tried to install dak? If you have, then the answer should be obvious to you. If you haven't, try it someday, and you'll understand. JB. -- Julien BLACHE - Debia

Re: About new source formats for packages without patches

2010-03-25 Thread Benjamin Drung
Am Donnerstag, den 25.03.2010, 17:57 +0100 schrieb Julien BLACHE: > Benjamin Drung wrote: > > Hi, > > > Why is there no dak and wanna-build package? Are there plans to create > > such packages? > > Have you ever tried to install dak? No. > If you have, then the answer should be obvious to you

Re: About new source formats for packages without patches

2010-03-25 Thread Julien BLACHE
Benjamin Drung wrote: Hi, > Is there a plan for making the installation of dak easier? The issue (if there actually is an issue there, which is debatable) is not so much that dak is hard to install (because it's such a beast and the documentation isn't exactly stellar) but rather that dak is ve

Re: About new source formats for packages without patches

2010-03-25 Thread Clint Adams
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 05:19:41PM +0100, Benjamin Drung wrote: > Why is there no dak and wanna-build package? Are there plans to create > such packages? This does not truly answer your question, but since my theory would be unpleasant to the members of core teams, I offer you this instead: http:

Re: About new source formats for packages without patches

2010-03-25 Thread Russ Allbery
Stefano Zacchiroli writes: > On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 12:58:39PM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote: >> Why are you insisting that all DDs should switch when switching is an >> effort for no benefit[1] and not switching is no effort at all ? > In fact, I don't feel this is the point [1]. The new lintian wa

Re: About new source formats for packages without patches

2010-03-25 Thread Russ Allbery
Steve Langasek writes: > And the lintian warning goes away by explicitly setting source format to > 1, so that's not standardizing on the "set of improved source formats" > /anyway/, that's just nagging maintainers to make a change to their > packages that AFAICS only helps your real goal if they

Re: About new source formats for packages without patches

2010-03-25 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Thu, 25 Mar 2010, Russ Allbery wrote: > Steve Langasek writes: > > > And the lintian warning goes away by explicitly setting source format to > > 1, so that's not standardizing on the "set of improved source formats" > > /anyway/, that's just nagging maintainers to make a change to their > > p

Re: About new source formats for packages without patches

2010-03-25 Thread Colin Tuckley
Russ Allbery wrote: > Yes. I explicitly declined to add a Lintian tag warning about all use of > format 1.0 because I don't believe there's consensus to deprecate it. But > the request to note the format explicitly seemed reasonable to me. I disagree - my packages are in source format 1, I shou

Re: About new source formats for packages without patches

2010-03-25 Thread Russ Allbery
Colin Tuckley writes: > Russ Allbery wrote: >> Yes. I explicitly declined to add a Lintian tag warning about all use >> of format 1.0 because I don't believe there's consensus to deprecate >> it. But the request to note the format explicitly seemed reasonable to >> me. > I disagree - my packag

Re: About new source formats for packages without patches

2010-03-25 Thread Simon Richter
Hi, On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 11:10:39AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Yes. I explicitly declined to add a Lintian tag warning about all use of > format 1.0 because I don't believe there's consensus to deprecate it. But > the request to note the format explicitly seemed reasonable to me. I think

Re: About new source formats for packages without patches

2010-03-25 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Hi, Russ Allbery (25/03/2010): > Well, certainly the goal of Lintian is not to produce tags for which > the project consensus is that nothing should be done about. If > people don't feel like this is a good idea, we can remove it. It > made sense to me personally, but that isn't a deciding crit

Bug#575441: ITP: literki -- Keyboard with configurable layout and transparency

2010-03-25 Thread Timo Jyrinki
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Timo Jyrinki Owner: Timo Jyrinki * Package name: literki Version : 0.0.0+20100113.git1da40724 Upstream Author : Michal Brzozowski * URL : http://git.senfdax.de/?p=literki * License : GPL2 Programming Lang: C++ Descr

Re: About new source formats for packages without patches

2010-03-25 Thread Neil Williams
On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 12:42:20 -0700 Russ Allbery wrote: > Colin Tuckley writes: I wasn't going to contribute to this thread but the initial bun fight seems to have calmed down and people are starting to talk sense. I'll do everything I can to keep it that way by ignoring unhelpful comments. > >

Re: German Debian (was: Processed: ipv6 release goal)

2010-03-25 Thread Jeffrey Ratcliffe
On Wed,24.Mar.10, 21:29:47, Hendrik Sattler wrote: > I don't know the english translation for "klingt irgendwie steif". Obviously, the literal translation is "sounds somehow stiff", which isn't too far away - maybe "sounds somewhat stiff". Regards Jeff signature.asc Description: Digital signat

Re: About new source formats for packages without patches

2010-03-25 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Thu, 25 Mar 2010, Simon Richter wrote: > On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 11:10:39AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > > Yes. I explicitly declined to add a Lintian tag warning about all use of > > format 1.0 because I don't believe there's consensus to deprecate it. But > > the request to note the format e

Re: About new source formats for packages without patches

2010-03-25 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Thu, 25 Mar 2010, Neil Williams wrote: > Agreed, although I think the real bug is in dpkg not being able to > cope without a new file. In what way dpkg doesn't cope? The change requested by the lintian tag is preventive, not corrective. > The idea that all source packages are going to have t

Re: About new source formats for packages without patches

2010-03-25 Thread Neil Williams
On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 21:42:59 +0100 Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Thu, 25 Mar 2010, Neil Williams wrote: > > Agreed, although I think the real bug is in dpkg not being able to > > cope without a new file. > > In what way dpkg doesn't cope? I'm not sure, I got that impression - otherwise why do ex

Re: About new source formats for packages without patches

2010-03-25 Thread Ben Finney
Raphael Hertzog writes: > On Thu, 25 Mar 2010, Neil Williams wrote: > > debian/source/format, I'll override the lintian warning until dpkg > > is fixed. (Already done that for a few packages.) > > Doing that means “I don't want to hardcode the format to use, I want > to use whatever the dpkg main

Re: About new source formats for packages without patches

2010-03-25 Thread Joachim Wiedorn
Raphael Hertzog wrote: > There might be not short term benefit for the current maintainer, but > it's a benefit for our derivatives distributions to be able to simply add > patches in a consistent manner. It will also be a benefit for Debian if in > 2 years some newbie packager doesn't have to lea

Re: Hardware trouble ries.debian.org - ftpmaster.debian.org / release.d.o services disabled

2010-03-25 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 12065 March 1977, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > ries.debian.org, the host behind ftp-master.debian.org, has hardware > trouble, a failed memory module keeps resetting the machine at random > intervals. No, its not fixed, just thought of giving a little update: I did an initial check of stuff that re

Re: Hardware trouble ries.debian.org - ftpmaster.debian.org / release.d.o services disabled

2010-03-25 Thread Benjamin Drung
Am Donnerstag, den 25.03.2010, 23:30 +0100 schrieb Joerg Jaspert: > Additionally we have one package in the archive that we can not help > with a binnmu, a full source upload is required. The maintainer got a > seperate mail asking for the upload, but for reference, its fatsort, the > latest versio

Work-needing packages report for Mar 26, 2010

2010-03-25 Thread wnpp
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the last week. Total number of orphaned packages: 591 (new: 16) Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 129 (new: 2) Total number of packages reques

Re: About new source formats for packages without patches

2010-03-25 Thread Russ Allbery
I revisited both the Lintian tag and the long description in light of this discussion and some private feedback, and for the next release of Lintian have tentatively made the following changes: * The tag was previously severity: normal. Lintian tag severities should match bug severities were on

Re: About new source formats for packages without patches

2010-03-25 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 08:47:22AM +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > Raphael Hertzog writes: > > On Thu, 25 Mar 2010, Neil Williams wrote: > > > debian/source/format, I'll override the lintian warning until dpkg > > > is fixed. (Already done that for a few packages.) > > Doing that means “I don't want

Re: Status of kernel patch packages

2010-03-25 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Wed, 2010-03-24 at 00:39 +, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 11:35:33PM +0100, Yann Dirson wrote: [...] > > But I'm not aware of a git tree holding the debian kernels - SVN is > > still listed as the VCS for the linux-2.6 package (which, BTW, > > continues to surprise me). > >

Bug#575471: ITP: libskeleton -- A library for reading and writing Ogg skeleton data

2010-03-25 Thread John Francesco Ferlito
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: John Francesco Ferlito Package name: libskeleton Version : 0.1 Upstream Author : Viktor Gal (wiking) URL : http://wiki.xiph.org/Ogg_Skeleton License : BSD Programming Lang: C Description : A library for re