Re: Bug#572733: support for mounting other kernel filesystems

2010-03-07 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 02:51:11AM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > /dev/something just feels so wrong. /dev contains block and character > > devices, and almost nothing else (except some udev and initramfs files) > > Why should cgroups control files, which are hardly device files, be > > found under

Re: Removing the manpage requirement for GUI programs?

2010-03-07 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le vendredi 05 mars 2010 à 18:53 -0800, Russ Allbery a écrit : > This seems like an unnecessarily complex way of implementing the idea of > generating man pages from .desktop files. Why would you not simply write > a script that generates a traditional *roff man page from a .desktop file? > It see

[Rant] Re: Removing the manpage requirement for GUI programs?

2010-03-07 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le vendredi 05 mars 2010 à 17:41 +, brian m. carlson a écrit : > This still has the problem that I don't know immediately where to get > the documentation. Do I use the GNOME help system? KDE's? man? info? > a DVI? a PDF? The benefit of manual pages is that there is one uniform > way to g

Re: including full package source code in the debian release

2010-03-07 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le samedi 06 mars 2010 à 19:29 -0800, Jamie Morken a écrit : > assuming 32KB per 1000 lines of code, this would be about 8.6GB for > 283 million lines of code. > > assuming a factor of 100 for the compression of this code, this would > give approx 88MB of extra space required in the debian distrib

Re: including full package source code in the debian release

2010-03-07 Thread Patrick Matthäi
On 07.03.2010 04:29, Jamie Morken wrote: Hi, Debian releases have 25,000 or so packages and don't include the source to them, so to recompile the package you use apt-get to connect to the internet and download the source to one package at a time if you want the source code. I did some calculatio

Re: including full package source code in the debian release

2010-03-07 Thread Frank Lin PIAT
On Sat, 2010-03-06 at 19:29 -0800, Jamie Morken wrote: > > Debian releases have 25,000 or so packages and don't include the > source to them This is not completely accurate. The most frequently downloaded CD/DVD/BD don't include the source, but the debian-cd team does release some media that fulf

Re: md5sums files

2010-03-07 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Anthony Towns [100307 07:42]: > "Big"? It only makes a difference if: > [...] > c) the system memory is corrupted just enough to screw the file but > not everything else For many machines installing packages is the biggest thing they ever do. So with a very low error rate, that perhaps causes

Re: md5sums files

2010-03-07 Thread Michael Banck
On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 01:25:44AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > I don't think that just because something is required, it should be > > necessarily part of dpkg. So far, we are talking about a policy of > > including md5sum in our .debs, *not* about changing the .deb format to > > requir

Re: including full package source code in the debian release

2010-03-07 Thread Jamie Morken
- Original Message - From: Josselin Mouette Date: Sunday, March 7, 2010 12:57 am Subject: Re: including full package source code in the debian release To: Jamie Morken Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org   > There are two little flaws in your reasoning. > 1. Compression ratios, even

Re: md5sums files

2010-03-07 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Peter Samuelson writes: >> Peter Samuelson writes: >> > Be that as it may, I don't think the md5sums file was ever intended to >> > be an integrity check of the .deb itself. Fortunately, the .deb also >> > includes checksums of control.tar.gz and data.tar.gz, thanks to use of >> > the gzip cont

Re: md5sums files

2010-03-07 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Michael Banck writes: > On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 01:25:44AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> > I don't think that just because something is required, it should be >> > necessarily part of dpkg. So far, we are talking about a policy of >> > including md5sum in our .debs, *not* about changing

Re: [Rant] Re: Removing the manpage requirement for GUI programs?

2010-03-07 Thread Frank Lin PIAT
On Sun, 2010-03-07 at 09:50 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le vendredi 05 mars 2010 à 17:41 +, brian m. carlson a écrit : > > This still has the problem that I don't know immediately where to get > > the documentation. Do I use the GNOME help system? KDE's? man? info? > > a DVI? a PDF?

Re: [Rant] Re: Removing the manpage requirement for GUI programs?

2010-03-07 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2010-03-07, Frank Lin PIAT wrote: >> GNOME, Xfce and KDE maintainers all explained that we have no interest >> in working on manual pages, and our upstreams don???t either. > > This is an important information that many people weren't aware of (at > least, myself). So you didn't read the full

Re: [Rant] Re: Removing the manpage requirement for GUI programs?

2010-03-07 Thread Frank Lin PIAT
On Sun, 2010-03-07 at 13:09 +, Sune Vuorela wrote: > On 2010-03-07, Frank Lin PIAT wrote: > >> GNOME, Xfce and KDE maintainers all explained that we have no interest > >> in working on manual pages, and our upstreams don???t either. > > > > This is an important information that many people wer

Re: Team uploads.

2010-03-07 Thread Niels Thykier
Charles Plessy wrote: > Dear all, > > It was proposed in 2009 to formalise "Team uploads" in analogy to the "QA > uploads", as a special case of NMU, where most conventions are relaxed. > > http://lists.debian.org/e13a36b30904052052g73850787vcc8b2035640d7...@mail.gmail.com > > While there was in

Re: Submitting bugs for manpage improvements

2010-03-07 Thread Frank Lin PIAT
Dear devscripts maintainers, On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 07:17 +0200, Frank Lin PIAT wrote: > > I have written a small script to make it easy to submit manpage > improvements (it's attached). > I believe that it much more effective to submit a patch, rather than > explaining what needs to be improved.

Re: Bug#572733: support for mounting other kernel filesystems

2010-03-07 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Mar 07, Mike Hommey wrote: > > Why not? /dev/pts/ is a kernel filesystem mounted below /dev, and /dev > > itself is a kernel filesystem (tmpfs or devtmpfs). > And both only contain character or block devices (or occasional > directories). Nothing else. I meant /dev/shm. -- ciao, Marco sign

Bug#572906: ITP: haskell-transformers -- Haskell monad transformer library

2010-03-07 Thread USB
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Ernesto Hernández-Novich (USB)" * Package name: haskell-transformers Version : 0.1.4.0 Upstream Author : Ross Paterson * URL : http://hackage.haskell.org/packages/archive/transformers * License : BSD Programming Lang

Bug#572907: ITP: libversion-requirements-perl -- module for handling version requirements for a CPAN dist

2010-03-07 Thread gregor herrmann
Package: wnpp Owner: gregor herrmann Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org,debian-p...@lists.debian.org * Package name: libversion-requirements-perl Version : 0.100630 Upstream Author : Ricardo Signes * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Versio

Re: klibc only initramfs

2010-03-07 Thread Adam Conrad
On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 02:00:31AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 10:26:48AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > > You could obviously just fall back to using the full .so in the case of > > initramfs generation. If we can detect that the libc generated is unsuitable, then

Bug#572919: ITP: totem-plugin-arte -- This totem plugin allows you to watch streams from arte.tv

2010-03-07 Thread Nicolas Delvaux
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Nicolas Delvaux * Package name: totem-plugin-arte Version : 0.8.1 Upstream Author : Simon Wenner * URL : http://gitorious.org/totem-plugin-arte * License : GPL v2+ Programming Lang: Vala Description : This totem

Proposed removal of arch-perl (libarch-perl)

2010-03-07 Thread Jonathan Yu
Hi: Recently I've been working on adopting the arch-perl package under the Debian Perl Group's umbrella. However, there are now some test failures (which didn't surface before because tests were simply disabled). So, long story short, my main issue with this is we are redistributing software which

Re: Proposed removal of arch-perl (libarch-perl)

2010-03-07 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
On 07/03/10 19:06, Jonathan Yu wrote: > Who is using arch-perl? > > 1. It has many reverse-dependencies > Reverse Depends: > axp > archzoom > archway > axp > archzoom > archway Well, those are repeated so they are not that many. Maybe you can remove those three packages together with

Bug#572927: ITP: autoradio -- Radio automation software

2010-03-07 Thread Andrea Capriotti
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Andrea Capriotti * Package name: autoradio Version : 1.4.0 Upstream Author : Paolo Patruno * URL : http://sourceforge.net/projects/autoradiobc/ * License : GPLv2 Programming Lang: Python Description : Radio autom

Re: Proposed removal of arch-perl (libarch-perl)

2010-03-07 Thread gregor herrmann
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 13:06:13 -0500, Jonathan Yu wrote: > 2. popcon score - see > http://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=arch-perl - does not appear > helpful. It has 0 all across, despite hundreds of submitters according > to the graph. The page for the binary package seems more helpful, at leas

Re: Proposed removal of arch-perl (libarch-perl)

2010-03-07 Thread Clint Adams
On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 01:06:13PM -0500, Jonathan Yu wrote: > Recently I've been working on adopting the arch-perl package under the > Debian Perl Group's umbrella. However, there are now some test > failures (which didn't surface before because tests were simply > disabled). So, long story short,

Re: md5sums files

2010-03-07 Thread Peter Samuelson
> Peter Samuelson writes: > > How many times do I have to say "the .deb also includes checksums of > > control.tar.gz and data.tar.gz, thanks to use of the gzip container > > format" before you notice? [Goswin von Brederlow] > - You download and verify the deb with the checksum in Packages.gz. >

Re: Proposed removal of arch-perl (libarch-perl)

2010-03-07 Thread Jonathan Yu
Clint, On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Clint Adams wrote: > Have you asked upstream? Actually, no I haven't, since given the number of test failures on CPAN Testers (pretty much 100% are FAILs), I assumed the the author was already aware of the problem. On second thought, though, you're right --

Re: Proposed removal of arch-perl (libarch-perl)

2010-03-07 Thread Christian Kuelker
Hi, Jonathan Yu wrote: On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Clint Adams wrote: Have you asked upstream? Actually, no I haven't, since given the number of test failures on CPAN Testers (pretty much 100% are FAILs), I assumed the the author was already aware of the problem. On second thought, thoug

Re: Proposed removal of arch-perl (libarch-perl)

2010-03-07 Thread Jonathan Yu
Mikhael, I'm really embarrassed now, for not having asked you about this issue first. I'll take a look at fixing the libarch-perl package immediately, and look into adopting the other related packages based on it (assuming they are Perl code). Perhaps something you can consider doing is having te

Re: klibc only initramfs

2010-03-07 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Hi Adam, (long time no see!) On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 04:13:56PM +, Adam Conrad wrote: > On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 02:00:31AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 10:26:48AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > > > > You could obviously just fall back to using the full .so in

Re: Proposed removal of arch-perl (libarch-perl)

2010-03-07 Thread Mikhael Goikhman
On 07 Mar 2010 16:17:56 -0500, Jonathan Yu wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Clint Adams wrote: > > Have you asked upstream? > > Actually, no I haven't, since given the number of test failures on > CPAN Testers (pretty much 100% are FAILs), I assumed the the author > was already aware o

Bug#572985: ITP: kurso -- Kurso de Esperanto - A multimedia program for teaching yourself Esperanto.

2010-03-07 Thread Michael Schnupp
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Michael Schnupp * Package name: kurso Version : 3.0 Upstream Author : Carlos Alberto Alves Pereira * URL : http://kurso.com.br/ * License : GPL2 Programming Lang: Delphi/Kylix Description : Kurso de Esperanto -

Re: Proposed removal of arch-perl (libarch-perl)

2010-03-07 Thread Mikhael Goikhman
On 07 Mar 2010 18:19:48 -0500, Jonathan Yu wrote: > > I'm really embarrassed now, for not having asked you about this issue > first. I'll take a look at fixing the libarch-perl package > immediately, and look into adopting the other related packages based > on it (assuming they are Perl code). >