Re: Bits from the FTPMaster meeting

2009-11-18 Thread Jean-Christophe Dubacq
Luk Claes a écrit : > Charles Plessy wrote: >> Le Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 08:27:22AM +0100, Yves-Alexis Perez a écrit : >>> Unless your proposal is just for unstable but doesn't want to change the >>> policy for testing migration? >> Hi, >> >> Testing migration works the way it should: if a package is

Re: Bits from the FTPMaster meeting

2009-11-18 Thread Clint Adams
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 07:41:51AM +0100, Luk Claes wrote: > I don't think it's good to waste buildd time on failing to build packages. > I also don't think anyone is stopped from setting up a service that > allows source-only uploads as a go-between. Do you mean set up an unofficial upload queue

Re: Bits from the FTPMaster meeting

2009-11-18 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 08:47:33AM +0100, Jean-Christophe Dubacq wrote: > > If your package FTBFS on some architecture, then that is a bug. A bug > > that was already there, it just was not noticed yet. In most cases the > > bug is rather easy to fix, even for non porters as most of the > > archite

Re: Bits from the FTPMaster meeting

2009-11-18 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 07:41:51AM +0100, Luk Claes wrote: > > I think one would be surprised how many packages get used on 'exotic' > architectures. Most users don't specifically search for a piece of > software, they want to have some specific task done by using a specific > package. Not providi

Re: Bits from the FTPMaster meeting

2009-11-18 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2009-11-18, Andreas Tille wrote: > Well, I do not think that you can do gene sequencing or number crunching > on current mobile phones. So there are really programs which are not > needed on all architectures and even if you find a binary package which > claims to do the job it is just useless

Re: Bits from the FTPMaster meeting

2009-11-18 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
Hi! First of all, thanks for this great roundup. There are just some few questions that popped up in my mind that I hope haven't asked yet (wasn't able to check all the responses completely ...). Sorry if there are duplications, a reference to the answer for easier tracking would be appre

Bug#556928: ITP: pyflag -- An advanced forensic tool for large volumes of log files

2009-11-18 Thread Tiago Bortoletto Vaz
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Tiago Bortoletto Vaz * Package name: pyflag Version : 0.87-pre1 Upstream Author : Michael Cohen and David Collett * URL : http://www.pyflag.net * License : GPL-2 Programming Lang: C, Python Description : An adv

Re: Bits from the FTPMaster meeting

2009-11-18 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:42:47AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava a écrit : > > I beg to differ. This sounds like a maintainer that is not > providing the support for their package, and needs to orphan that > package; not building on some architecture is often a symptom of > problems elsewher

Bug#556949: ITP: libalgorithm-diff-xs-perl -- module to find differences between files (XS accelerated)

2009-11-18 Thread Jonathan Yu
Package: wnpp Owner: Jonathan Yu Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org,debian-p...@lists.debian.org * Package name: libalgorithm-diff-xs-perl Version : 0.04 Upstream Author : Audrey Tang * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Algorithm-Diff-XS/ *

Re: Bits from the FTPMaster meeting

2009-11-18 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:54:18AM +, Philipp Kern a écrit : > there might not be clusters of arm yet but I saw offers for clusters of mips. Hi Philipp I also saw this cluster and got quite curious until I realised that most programs I package are not parallelised… The day we are contacted

Re: Bits from the FTPMaster meeting

2009-11-18 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, Nov 18 2009, Charles Plessy wrote: > Le Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:42:47AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava a écrit : >> >> I beg to differ. This sounds like a maintainer that is not >> providing the support for their package, and needs to orphan that >> package; not building on some archi

Re: Bits from the FTPMaster meeting

2009-11-18 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, Nov 18 2009, Clint Adams wrote: > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 07:41:51AM +0100, Luk Claes wrote: >> I don't think it's good to waste buildd time on failing to build packages. >> I also don't think anyone is stopped from setting up a service that >> allows source-only uploads as a go-between. >

Re: Bits from the FTPMaster meeting

2009-11-18 Thread Mark Brown
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 11:40:52PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > If we mean to attract such users, I do not think that the best strategy would > necessarly be having a pre-existing MIPS support of bioinformatics, which I > think is completely beyond our reach and expertise. I think that what woul

Bug#556958: ITP: abiword-docs -- documentation for the abiword word processor

2009-11-18 Thread Patrik Fimml
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Patrik Fimml * Package name: abiword-docs * Version : 2.8.1 * Upstream Author : Dom Lachowicz * URL : http://www.abisource.com * License : to be clarified, most likely GPL * Description : documentation for the abiword wo

Bug#556966: ITP: libpod-coverage-trustpod-perl -- module to support hints for Pod::Coverage

2009-11-18 Thread Jonathan Yu
Package: wnpp Owner: Jonathan Yu Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org,debian-p...@lists.debian.org * Package name: libpod-coverage-trustpod-perl Version : 0.092830 Upstream Author : Ricardo SIGNES * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Pod-Cover

Re: Bits from the FTPMaster meeting

2009-11-18 Thread Luk Claes
Andreas Tille wrote: > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 07:41:51AM +0100, Luk Claes wrote: >> I think one would be surprised how many packages get used on 'exotic' >> architectures. Most users don't specifically search for a piece of >> software, they want to have some specific task done by using a specific

Re: Bits from the FTPMaster meeting

2009-11-18 Thread Luk Claes
Clint Adams wrote: > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 07:41:51AM +0100, Luk Claes wrote: >> I don't think it's good to waste buildd time on failing to build packages. >> I also don't think anyone is stopped from setting up a service that >> allows source-only uploads as a go-between. > > Do you mean set up

Re: Bits from the FTPMaster meeting

2009-11-18 Thread Luk Claes
Gerfried Fuchs wrote: > Hi! > > First of all, thanks for this great roundup. There are just some few > questions that popped up in my mind that I hope haven't asked yet > (wasn't able to check all the responses completely ...). Sorry if there > are duplications, a reference to the answer fo

Re: Bits from the FTPMaster meeting

2009-11-18 Thread Luk Claes
Charles Plessy wrote: > Le Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:54:18AM +, Philipp Kern a écrit : > >> there might not be clusters of arm yet but I saw offers for clusters of mips. > > Hi Philipp > > I also saw this cluster and got quite curious until I realised that most > programs I package are not par

Bug#556996: ITP: gnuspool -- A network-based print spooler

2009-11-18 Thread Philip Hands
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: John M Collins * Package name: gnuspool Version : 1.6 Upstream Author : John M Collins * URL : http://www.gnu.org/software/gnuspool * License : GPL (>=3) Programming Lang: C, (and some python in a sub-package) Descr

Re: Bits from the FTPMaster meeting

2009-11-18 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 08:18:57PM +0100, Luk Claes wrote: > > There are architectures for different issues. There are issues which > > allways need the fastest available architecture and there are other > > needs which are targeting at low power consumption etc. We should > > probably not put a

Re: Bits from the FTPMaster meeting

2009-11-18 Thread Felipe Sateler
Luk Claes wrote: You apparently fail to see that building the packages on mips uncovers bugs that would otherwise be there, but take a longer time to uncover on the 'mainstream' platforms. This is not generally true. There are are classes of bugs that appear on different platforms _due to bein

ITP: mercurial-buildpackage (for those who care about Mercurial)

2009-11-18 Thread Jens Peter Secher
Executive summary: If you use Mercurial and pbuilder for package maintenance you should try out mercurial-buildpackage in http://people.debian.org/~jps/squeeze/ . I have spent some time on making an improved version of hg-buildpackage, which turned out to become a complete rewrite now called mercu

Re: Bits from the FTPMaster meeting

2009-11-18 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2009-11-18, Felipe Sateler wrote: > This is not generally true. There are are classes of bugs that appear on > different platforms _due to being different platforms_, not just because > they were latent bugs waiting to be discovered. I presume that packages > that require as much efficiency as

Re: Bits from the FTPMaster meeting

2009-11-18 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2009-11-18, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: > I am a bit confused with respect to how buildd autosigning is required > for this. It makes it sound somehow like it would affect porter binary Basicalyl, the turnaround time is too long if we have to wait for manual buildd signings. For example, when we u

Re: Bits from the FTPMaster meeting

2009-11-18 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 02:49:46PM +, Mark Brown a écrit : > > The flip side of this is that it's just inviting maintainers to decide > they can't be bothered with porting effort and leaving ports as second > class citizens. It seems that the trend this year is to not trust the maintainers fo

Re: Bug#556928: ITP: pyflag -- An advanced forensic tool for large volumes of log files

2009-11-18 Thread Cristian Greco
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:05:41 -0200 Tiago Bortoletto Vaz wrote: > * Package name: pyflag > Version : 0.87-pre1 > Upstream Author : Michael Cohen and David Collett > > * URL : http://www.pyflag.net > * License : GPL-2 > Programming Lang: C, Python > Descript

Bug#557026: ITP: gtkhotkey -- Gtk hotkey shared library

2009-11-18 Thread Nobuhiro Iwamatsu
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Nobuhiro Iwamatsu * Package name: gtkhotkey Version : 0.2.1 Upstream Author : Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen * URL : https://launchpad.net/gtkhotkey * License : LGPL-3 Programming Lang: C Description : Gtk hotkey shar

Re: Bits from the FTPMaster meeting

2009-11-18 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, Nov 18 2009, Charles Plessy wrote: > Le Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 02:49:46PM +, Mark Brown a écrit : >> >> The flip side of this is that it's just inviting maintainers to >> decide they can't be bothered with porting effort and leaving ports >> as second class citizens. > > It seems that t

Re: Bits from the FTPMaster meeting

2009-11-18 Thread Kumar Appaiah
(Note: I am not a porter, so please correct anything wrong I say below) On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 08:29:53AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > How about the porters responsability towards the project ? For instance, hppa > is blocking the testing migration of a couple of my packages, and probably the >

Re: possible MBF about Policy 8.2 (Shared library support files)

2009-11-18 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Russ Allbery writes: > Goswin von Brederlow writes: > >> I mentioned before that there are a lot of packages that violate >> Policy 8.2 Shared library support files: > >> | If your package contains files whose names do not change with each >> | change in the library shared object version, yo

Re: Bits from the FTPMaster meeting

2009-11-18 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Andreas Tille writes: > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 07:41:51AM +0100, Luk Claes wrote: >> >> I think one would be surprised how many packages get used on 'exotic' >> architectures. Most users don't specifically search for a piece of >> software, they want to have some specific task done by using a s

Re: Bits from the FTPMaster meeting

2009-11-18 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Felipe Sateler writes: > Luk Claes wrote: > >> You apparently fail to see that building the packages on mips uncovers >> bugs that would otherwise be there, but take a longer time to uncover on >> the 'mainstream' platforms. > > This is not generally true. There are are classes of bugs that appea

Re: Bits from the FTPMaster meeting

2009-11-18 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Sune Vuorela writes: > On 2009-11-18, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: >> I am a bit confused with respect to how buildd autosigning is required >> for this. It makes it sound somehow like it would affect porter binary > > Basicalyl, the turnaround time is too long if we have to wait for manual > buildd s

Re: ITP: mercurial-buildpackage (for those who care about Mercurial)

2009-11-18 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Jens Peter Secher writes: > Executive summary: If you use Mercurial and pbuilder for package > maintenance you should try out mercurial-buildpackage in > http://people.debian.org/~jps/squeeze/ . > > I have spent some time on making an improved version of > hg-buildpackage, which turned out to bec

Re: Bits from the FTPMaster meeting

2009-11-18 Thread Carlo Segre
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009, Steffen Joeris wrote: On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 02:04:28 pm Carlo Segre wrote: On Sun, 15 Nov 2009, Joerg Jaspert wrote: The current "winning" opinion is to go with the source+throw away binaries route. We are close to being able to achieve this, it is simply that it has not ye

Re: Bits from the FTPMaster meeting

2009-11-18 Thread Luk Claes
Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Sune Vuorela writes: > >> On 2009-11-18, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: >>> I am a bit confused with respect to how buildd autosigning is required >>> for this. It makes it sound somehow like it would affect porter binary >> Basicalyl, the turnaround time is too long if we

Re: Bits from the FTPMaster meeting

2009-11-18 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 11:16:41PM +, Sune Vuorela wrote: > On 2009-11-18, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: > > I am a bit confused with respect to how buildd autosigning is required > > for this. It makes it sound somehow like it would affect porter binary > > Basicalyl, the turnaround time is too lon