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On Wed, 22 Jul 2009, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> Raphael Hertzog (17/07/2009):
> > At least dpkg-dev has one and it's run at build-time.
>
> I thought the goal of dpkg-dev was to actually build other packages. I
> don't know how dpkg-dev developers see this, but maybe having a few
> packages rebuilt
On Wed, 22 Jul 2009, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> Raphael Hertzog (22/07/2009):
> > Yes. Check "man dpkg-gensymbols" and see how some nice tools
> > […propaganda…]
>
> FSVO “nice”. #536034.
Mistakes happen, that doesn't change anything concerning the usefulness of
the tool.
> In case a maintainer o
On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 07:12:57AM +, Philipp Kern wrote:
> On 2009-07-19, Charles Plessy wrote:
> > Do we have evidence that maintainers have damaged the project in the past by
> > willingfully upload packages with overriden lintian errors?
> Damaged the project... no. Caused a RC bug to be
On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 06:04:13PM +0200, Raphael Geissert wrote:
> This is a follow up to my previous thread, with a slightly different
> proposal.
> What actually needs to be done is:
> * Make dash essential, make it divert the current /bin/sh symlink by default,
> make another essential packa
Steve Langasek wrote:
On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 06:04:13PM +0200, Raphael Geissert wrote:
This is a follow up to my previous thread, with a slightly different
proposal.
What actually needs to be done is:
* Make dash essential, make it divert the current /bin/sh symlink by default,
make anothe
Folks, there was a longish discussion on IRC starting about an hour
ago about dash and bash.
I agree we want to move the default /bin/sh to /bin/dash.
However I'm failing to understand why we want dash to be essential.
If I'm not using dash as my /bin/sh why do I need it?
If the answer is that
On 2009-07-23, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 07:12:57AM +, Philipp Kern wrote:
>> On 2009-07-19, Charles Plessy wrote:
>> > Do we have evidence that maintainers have damaged the project in the past
>> > by
>> > willingfully upload packages with overriden lintian errors?
>>
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 11:19 -0400, Sam Hartman wrote:
> Folks, there was a longish discussion on IRC starting about an hour
> ago about dash and bash.
These discussions are extremely long standing :) The move away from
bash has been aimed at long before I vanished from the project in 2004.
I'
Sam Hartman wrote:
Folks, there was a longish discussion on IRC starting about an hour
ago about dash and bash.
I agree we want to move the default /bin/sh to /bin/dash.
However I'm failing to understand why we want dash to be essential.
If I'm not using dash as my /bin/sh why do I need it?
>
> The model was pretty much 100% complete and had been well tested on my
> box. However, I ran out of free time to work on this, so I never got
> around to implementing the suggestions that you made back in September
> 2008.
Peter, do you have any hope to resume working on it ?
Or should I look f
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Siggy Brentrup writes:
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 11:19 -0400, Sam Hartman wrote:
>
>
>> Folks, there was a longish discussion on IRC starting about an hour
>> ago about dash and bash.
>
> These discussions are extremely long standing :) The move away from
> bash has been aimed at long before I v
> "Luk" == Luk Claes writes:
Luk> We want everyone to use dash by default. If someone does not
Luk> want to use the default, they are free to do so, but the
Luk> default system shell is supposed to always be on the system.
Why?
I agree something should always provide /bin/sh.
I do
On Wed, Jul 22 2009, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote:
> If we remove the essential flag, we have a nice feature:
> the packages who needs bash need to be documented (via Depends).
Can you tell me how long did it take to move from /usr/doc to
/usr/share/doc?
manoj
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On Tue, Jul 21 2009, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote:
> but policy recommend not to use bash features on scripts (10.3),
That happens to be not what policy actually says.
> and the availability of a POSIX-shell (with few extension) is
> already provided by policy (still 10.3), thus no need t
On Tue, Jul 21 2009, Raphael Geissert wrote:
> Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
>>
>> It is not like you will be able to remove bash from the vast majority of
>> the Debian systems out there anyway, so it doesn't matter if it remains
>> "essential" for a while.
>
> The goal of dropping bash fro
On Tue, Jul 21 2009, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Jul 2009, Russ Allbery wrote:
>> "Giacomo A. Catenazzi" writes:
>> > But probably for the shell cases it is easier to remove 'essential'
>> > flag (especially for a minimal nearly POSIX-like shell like dash),
>> > because the in
On Thu, Jul 23 2009, Siggy Brentrup wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 11:19 -0400, Sam Hartman wrote:
>
>> Folks, there was a longish discussion on IRC starting about an hour
>> ago about dash and bash.
>
> These discussions are extremely long standing :) The move away from
> bash has been aimed a
> "Siggy" == Siggy Brentrup writes:
8
>> I agree we want to move the default /bin/sh to /bin/dash.
>> However I'm failing to understand why we want dash to be
>> essential. If I'm not using dash as my /bin/sh why do I need
>> it?
Siggy> So you are complaining about a smal
On Thu, Jul 23 2009, Luk Claes wrote:
> Sam Hartman wrote:
>>
>> Folks, there was a longish discussion on IRC starting about an hour
>> ago about dash and bash.
>>
>> I agree we want to move the default /bin/sh to /bin/dash.
>> However I'm failing to understand why we want dash to be essential.
>
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> I think we can engineer a system where Debian suggests various
> shells as the default shell, and the user selects one. And only the
> selected default shell is one that can't be removed from the system.
Debian Installer could in theory support this by having a default sh
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On 24/07/09 at 01:14 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> * I wonder if I shall add some samples to the document to make it clearer
> in everybody's mind. What do you think? If you think it's a good idea,
> feel free to provide some interesting (real-life) sample.
Examples would be nice, yes. Choose th
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Mon,29.Jun.09, 22:53:53, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> > @@ -63,6 +63,10 @@ The set of fields ends on the first empty line.
> > Free-form comments follow and be used for any other information that
> ^^
> I'm not a native s
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 12:58:20AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Jun 2009, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> > On Mon,29.Jun.09, 22:53:53, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> > > @@ -63,6 +63,10 @@ The set of fields ends on the first empty line.
> > > Free-form comments follow and be used for any other in
Hello,
one more turn for this DEP, after all. Recent changes are not numerous
but there are some.
Current version: http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep3/
=== Changes since last round ===
- Clarified that vendor names are case-insensitive
- Made the categorization in Origin optional. Made the field o
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>
> I would be happier of we worked out a a way for the sysadmin to
> be able to specify the default shell for the machine, rather than have
> Debian decide it for them.
There's already a way to do it: dpkg-reconfigure dash
Cheers,
Raphael Geissert
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Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 21 2009, Raphael Geissert wrote:
>>
>> The goal of dropping bash from essential is not to remove bash from the
>> systems (or from Debian), it is about making packages really using it
>> depend on it.
>
> Can you explain why this added dependency is a
Le Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 01:14:16AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog a écrit :
>
> * Charles Plessy wanted to specify more precisely the format instead
> of saying "RFC-2822 compliant fields". The discussion went nowhere
> and nobody else expressed support for such a change.
Hi Raphaël,
my main concern is
On 2009-07-23, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> As long as /bin/sh refuses extensions to posix I agree with you, but
>> bashism has been a cuss word for years before 2004.
> Source? Policy does not even ban bashims for maintainer scripts.
Surely not, it just tells you to use bash in the shebang
On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, brian m. carlson wrote:
> If you had said "Free-form comments can follow", then that would be
> correct.
Actually, that's what's in the document...
> As a native speaker of en_US, I would say that "Free-form
> comments follow and may be used..." sounds best. "May" is better
Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Jun 2009, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> > On Mon,29.Jun.09, 22:53:53, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> > > @@ -63,6 +63,10 @@ The set of fields ends on the first empty line.
> > > Free-form comments follow and be used for any other information
> > ^^^
On Thu, Jul 23 2009, Raphael Geissert wrote:
> Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jul 21 2009, Raphael Geissert wrote:
>>>
>>> The goal of dropping bash from essential is not to remove bash from the
>>> systems (or from Debian), it is about making packages really using it
>>> depend on it.
>>
>
On 2009-07-23, Frans Pop wrote:
> In addition all shells supported as defaults would need to be included on
> CD images. And the selected shell would of course have to be set as the
> default for new users.
Strike the "of course". If I want my users to have zsh as a default that's
different fr
On Thu, Jul 23 2009, Frans Pop wrote:
> Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> I think we can engineer a system where Debian suggests various
>> shells as the default shell, and the user selects one. And only the
>> selected default shell is one that can't be removed from the system.
>
> Debian Installer coul
Laurent Léonard writes:
> Description: detect if we are running in a virtual machine
What does it offer over the existing imvirt package?
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On Thu, Jul 23 2009, Charles Plessy wrote:
> Le Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 01:14:16AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog a écrit :
>>
>> * Charles Plessy wanted to specify more precisely the format instead
>> of saying "RFC-2822 compliant fields". The discussion went nowhere
>> and nobody else expressed support fo
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Frans Pop writes:
> Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> I think we can engineer a system where Debian suggests various
>> shells as the default shell, and the user selects one. And only the
>> selected default shell is one that can't be removed from the system.
>
> Debian Installer could in theory support
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