Re: Bug#500176: This bug is still around and release-critical

2008-10-09 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008.10.08.1054 +0200]: > FWIW I've upgraded a machine to replace pdnsd with unbound, it hit that > bug of course. [...] > I don't think this is too hard to ask from someone that is installing > multiple DNS softwares on the same machine. A bit more

Re: mpeg encoder patents

2008-10-09 Thread Reinhard Tartler
Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Clint Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> We need to stop pretending that patent enforcement is one of our >> responsibilities > > I've not seen anyone argue that it is, nor request that we do such > enforcement. Then you have been closing your eyes. I'

Re: Bug#500176: This bug is still around and release-critical

2008-10-09 Thread Gerrit Pape
On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 09:07:00AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008.10.08.1054 +0200]: > > FWIW I've upgraded a machine to replace pdnsd with unbound, it hit that > > bug of course. > [...] > > I don't think this is too hard to ask from someone t

Re: Bug#500176: This bug is still around and release-critical

2008-10-09 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 09:07:00AM +0200, martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > also sprach Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008.10.08.1054 +0200]: > > FWIW I've upgraded a machine to replace pdnsd with unbound, it hit that > > bug of course. > [...] > > I don't think this is too hard

Processed: Re: Bug#501590: PrintScreen key causes many apps to suddenly die if you are running in Linux text mode

2008-10-09 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > clone 501590 -1 Bug#501590: Please change the established behaviour of PrtScr key Bug 501590 cloned as bug 501654. > reassign -1 console-setup Bug#501654: Please change the established behaviour of PrtScr key Bug reassigned from package `general' to `c

Bug#501590: Processed: Re: Bug#501590: PrintScreen key causes many apps to suddenly die if you are running in Linux text mode

2008-10-09 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Christian, I don't understand why you reassigned this bug to general. Surely, if you want to discuss this with debian-devel@ you can cc: the list. Reassigning the bug to general often achieves nothing (which cannot be achieved by cc:ing) while it tends to pile up the list of general bugs and

ITP: airoscript -- Easy to use interface for aircrack-ng

2008-10-09 Thread David Francos (XayOn)
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: David Francos Cuartero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: airoscript Version : 2.0.7b1 Upstream Author : Daouid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://airoscript.aircrack-ng.org/ * License : GPL-2 Programming Lang: Bash D

Re: Packaging shell functions

2008-10-09 Thread Michael Welle
Hi, "Eugene V. Lyubimkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Michael Welle wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I'm packaging a little tool called vared. Vared relies on some shell >> functions and/or aliases that must have been sourced into the >> environment before usage. What may be the best pratice to package >>

Re: Packaging shell functions

2008-10-09 Thread Michael Welle
Hi, Michael Meskes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I'm packaging a little tool called vared. Vared relies on some shell >> functions and/or aliases that must have been sourced into the >> environment before usage. What may be the best pratice to package >> such shell functions? >> ... > > How abou

Re: Packaging shell functions

2008-10-09 Thread Michael Meskes
> I'm packaging a little tool called vared. Vared relies on some shell > functions and/or aliases that must have been sourced into the > environment before usage. What may be the best pratice to package > such shell functions? > ... How about a little wrapper setting the environment and then execu

Re: Packaging shell functions

2008-10-09 Thread Clint Adams
On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 03:04:28PM +0200, Michael Welle wrote: > vared [1] lets you edit environment variables an a fancy way and than > it sets their new value in your current shell session. The shell > functions/aliases are a crude way to work around some limitations > (environment variables can

Re: Packaging shell functions

2008-10-09 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
Michael Welle wrote: > Hi, > > I'm packaging a little tool called vared. Vared relies on some shell > functions and/or aliases that must have been sourced into the > environment before usage. What may be the best pratice to package > such shell functions? I would take a look on packaging of 'app

Re: Packaging shell functions

2008-10-09 Thread Michael Welle
Hi, Clint Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 03:04:28PM +0200, Michael Welle wrote: >> vared [1] lets you edit environment variables an a fancy way and than >> it sets their new value in your current shell session. The shell >> functions/aliases are a crude way to work ar

Packaging shell functions

2008-10-09 Thread Michael Welle
Hi, I'm packaging a little tool called vared. Vared relies on some shell functions and/or aliases that must have been sourced into the environment before usage. What may be the best pratice to package such shell functions? First approch is to put the shell code somewhere under /usr/share/vared

Re: Bug#501190: Reworded control

2008-10-09 Thread Robert Millan
On Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 12:38:41AM +0100, Jo Shields wrote: > Package: moonlight-plugin-core > Architecture: any > Depends: ${shlibs:Depends} > Conflicts: moonlight > Description: open source clone of Microsoft Silverlight - core plugin > Moonlight is a free Silverlight clone, allowing Free Softwa

Bug#501590: PrintScreen key causes many apps to suddenly die if you are running in Linux text mode

2008-10-09 Thread Anton Zinoviev
clone 501590 -1 reassign -1 console-setup thanks On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 06:39:59AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: > > Quoting Jason Spiro ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > I assigned it to console-data because it I assume that the bug is > > caused by the line "keycode 99 = Control_backslash" in > > con

Bug#501694: ITP: libthread-queue-any-perl -- Thread-safe queues for any data-structure

2008-10-09 Thread Matt Zagrabelny
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Matt Zagrabelny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libthread-queue-any-perl Version : 0.09 Upstream Author : Elizabeth Mattijsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : * http://search.cpan.org/~elizabeth/Thread-Queue-Any-0.09/lib/Thread/Q

Bug#501693: ITP: xmobar -- A lightweight, extensible, text-based status-bar for X11 desktops

2008-10-09 Thread Apollon Oikonomopoulos
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Apollon Oikonomopoulos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: xmobar Version : 0.9 Upstream Author : Andrea Rossato * URL : http://hackage.haskell.org/cgi-bin/hackage-scripts/package/xmobar * License : BSD Programming La

Bug#501695: ITP: libghc6-x11-xft-dev -- Haskell bindings for the Xft fontlibrary and the Xrender extension

2008-10-09 Thread Apollon Oikonomopoulos
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Apollon Oikonomopoulos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libghc6-x11-xft-dev Version : 0.3 Upstream Author : Clemens Fruhwirth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://hackage.haskell.org/cgi-bin/hackage-scripts/package/X11-xft-0.3

Re: List of RC-buggy source packages by maintainer/uploader

2008-10-09 Thread Hideki Yamane
On Wed, 08 Oct 2008 23:45:08 +0200 Michael Biebl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > They are already marked as done with the correct version. unblocked fixed version (thanks, Luk!) # and now I say good-bye to RC-buggy list with smile :) -- Regards, Hideki Yamane henrich @ debian.or.jp/iijmio-

Bug#501590: Processed: Re: Bug#501590: PrintScreen key causes many apps to suddenly die if you are running in Linux text mode

2008-10-09 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Holger Levsen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Hi Christian, > > I don't understand why you reassigned this bug to general. Surely, if you > want > to discuss this with debian-devel@ you can cc: the list. Reassigning the bug > to general often achieves nothing (which cannot be achieved by cc:ing)

Re: Bug#501190: Reworded control

2008-10-09 Thread Robert Millan
Btw, please keep in mind that the description issues I pointed out are relatively unimportant compared to legal risk (and I haven't seen that being discussed in debian-legal yet). On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 03:32:48PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote: > On Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 12:38:41AM +0100, Jo Shields

Re: mpeg encoder patents, Was: Bug#501190: ITP: moonlight

2008-10-09 Thread Robert Millan
On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 04:44:40PM +0200, Reinhard Tartler wrote: > Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> At the very least, we could distribute them in a specific "patented" > >> section, with rules similar to non-free, and that we’d only mirror in > >> countries where it is not a prob

Re: mpeg encoder patents, Was: Bug#501190: ITP: moonlight

2008-10-09 Thread Robert Millan
On Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 09:15:16PM +, Clint Adams wrote: > On Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 02:30:50PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > So I think we need to modify the proposal, not the policy. > > We need to stop pretending that patent enforcement is one of our > responsibilities or that we

Re: mpeg encoder patents, Was: Bug#501190: ITP: moonlight

2008-10-09 Thread Robert Millan
On Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 04:30:09PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > [...]. I have absolutely no idea whether any > of the software that I package is affected by some patent. You're putting all patents in the same bag, and it's not like that. For example, if you distribute a windowing system, you're

Re: mpeg encoder patents, Was: Bug#501190: ITP: moonlight

2008-10-09 Thread Robert Millan
On Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 11:41:16AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 1:39 AM, Reinhard Tartler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I fully agree with you in principle. The 'restricted' idea is basically > > a convenience service for our users and distributors. > > Such convenience ser

Bug#501707: ITP: biblatex-dw -- Biblatex styles for humanities

2008-10-09 Thread Jan Hauke Rahm
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jan Hauke Rahm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA224 * Package name: biblatex-dw Version : 1.1h Upstream Author : Dominik Waßenhoven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/help/

Re: mpeg encoder patents, Was: Bug#501190: ITP: moonlight

2008-10-09 Thread Robert Millan
On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 05:54:22PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > Hi, > > On Tuesday 07 October 2008 16:44, Reinhard Tartler wrote: > > - packages in 'patented' must fulfill the requirements of the dfsg > > I dont think we should support the obsolete, useless & wrong patent system by > doing thi

Re: mpeg encoder patents, Was: Bug#501190: ITP: moonlight

2008-10-09 Thread Reinhard Tartler
Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Our users weight the quality of our product against the risk of liability > that it carries. I think it's obvious we need some balance. In some cases > (e.g. Linux, Glibc or X11) the risk is low and quality strongly depends on > them; in others (e.g. M

Re: mpeg encoder patents, Was: Bug#501190: ITP: moonlight

2008-10-09 Thread Reinhard Tartler
Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > But software patents cover algorithms contained in programs, not the > packages themselves. How about the more descriptive "patent-encumbered" > then? I don't really have a strong opinion on the naming here. Perhaps I should really haved used 'main' a

Re: Bug#500176: This bug is still around and release-critical

2008-10-09 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008.10.09.1024 +0200]: > Another problem that is looking for a solution is programs such as apache > or dnsmasq which binaries may be used by other software (gnome-user-share, > virt-manager...) but shouldn't be running daemons in this case. > It is esp

Bug#501714: ITP: libthread-serialize-perl -- Serialize data-structures between threads

2008-10-09 Thread Matt Zagrabelny
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Matt Zagrabelny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libthread-serialize-perl Version : 0.10 Upstream Author : Elizabeth Mattijsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : * http://search.cpan.org/~elizabeth/Thread-Serialize-0.10/lib/Thread/S

Bug#501716: ITP: libload-perl -- Control when subroutines will be loaded

2008-10-09 Thread Matt Zagrabelny
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Matt Zagrabelny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libload-perl Version : 0.19 Upstream Author : Elizabeth Mattijsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : * http://search.cpan.org/~elizabeth/load-0.19/lib/load.pm * License : Same

Bug#501717: ITP: libnet-mac-vendor-perl -- Look up the vendor for a MAC

2008-10-09 Thread Matt Zagrabelny
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Matt Zagrabelny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libnet-mac-vendor-perl Version : 1.18 Upstream Author : brian d foy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : * http://search.cpan.org/~bdfoy/Net-MAC-Vendor-1.18/lib/Vendor.pm * License

Re: Bug#501717: ITP: libnet-mac-vendor-perl -- Look up the vendor for a MAC

2008-10-09 Thread David Bremner
Matt Zagrabelny wrote: >Package: wnpp >Severity: wishlist >* Package name: libnet-mac-vendor-perl Hi Matt; I noticed you ITP'd 3 perl modules recently. Perhaps you would like to join the debian perl team (http://alioth.debian.org/projects/pkg-perl/) and maintain your modules there. There ar

Re: Bug#501717: ITP: libnet-mac-vendor-perl -- Look up the vendor for a MAC

2008-10-09 Thread Franklin PIAT
On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 14:54 -0500, Matt Zagrabelny wrote: > * Package name: libnet-mac-vendor-perl > Description : Look up the vendor for a MAC I'm currious on how many MAC-prefix to OUI we have in Debian... nmap: /usr/share/nmap/nmap-mac-prefixes kismet: /etc/kismet/ap_manuf wiresh

Bug#501733: ITP: ps3-utils -- Utilities for running Debian on a Sony Playstation 3

2008-10-09 Thread sean finney
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: sean finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Package name: ps3-utils Version : 2.2.0 Upstream Author : Sony Computer Entertainment Inc. URL : http://riksun.riken.go.jp/pub/pub/Linux/kernel/pe

Bug#501734: lyricue -- The GNU Lyric Display System

2008-10-09 Thread Nathan Handler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Owner: Nathan Handler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Package Name: lyricue Version: 1.9.8 Upstream Author: Chris Debenham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> URL: http://lds.sourceforge.net License: GN

Re: mpeg encoder patents, Was: Bug#501190: ITP: moonlight

2008-10-09 Thread Ben Finney
Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 04:30:09PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > > [...]. I have absolutely no idea whether any > > of the software that I package is affected by some patent. > > You're putting all patents in the same bag, and it's not like that. Agree

Re: mpeg encoder patents, Was: Bug#501190: ITP: moonlight

2008-10-09 Thread Russ Allbery
Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> On Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 04:30:09PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: >>> [...]. I have absolutely no idea whether any >>> of the software that I package is affected by some patent. >> You're putting all patents in the

Re: mpeg encoder patents, Was: Bug#501190: ITP: moonlight

2008-10-09 Thread Reinhard Tartler
Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > A more significant distinction is, as I've pointed out several times > already, that the Fraunhofer patents on MPEG audio algorithms *are > known to be actively enforced* by the holder against parties who > infringe those patents. Please back up that claim

Re: mpeg encoder patents, Was: Bug#501190: ITP: moonlight

2008-10-09 Thread Ben Finney
Reinhard Tartler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > A more significant distinction is, as I've pointed out several > > times already, that the Fraunhofer patents on MPEG audio > > algorithms *are known to be actively enforced* by the holder > > against part

Work-needing packages report for Oct 10, 2008

2008-10-09 Thread wnpp
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the last week. Total number of orphaned packages: 443 (new: 0) Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 125 (new: 1) Total number of packages request

Re: Bug#501717: ITP: libnet-mac-vendor-perl -- Look up the vendor for a MAC

2008-10-09 Thread Niko Tyni
On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 10:38:30PM +0200, Franklin PIAT wrote: > On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 14:54 -0500, Matt Zagrabelny wrote: > > * Package name: libnet-mac-vendor-perl > > Description : Look up the vendor for a MAC > > I'm currious on how many MAC-prefix to OUI we have in Debian... > nmap