Re: Faster shutdown and the ubuntu "multiuser" update-rc.d extention

2008-01-04 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 09:10:10PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > In that case, why would we not just migrate toward upstart as an init with > service supervisor capabilities? :) In the long run that may be desirable, but IMHO it won't happen in the near future. Or do you already know something a

Re: Opinions needed: reporting lintian overrides

2008-01-04 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 11253 March 1977, Russ Allbery wrote: > I'd really like to not have to make this decision myself. I'd like to get > opinions and see if a consensus emerges. I personally always run lintian > with -iI --show-overrides, so I'm clearly not the target audience for this > feature one way or the ot

Re: Util-linux mount function source code

2008-01-04 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 08:54:00AM -0800, Dennis Nguyen wrote: > I would like to see the mount source code. I saw the mount.c module in > the util-linux called mount function. It linked to the libc-2.6.so (I > using kernel 2.6.23.8) I got the GNU libc source code but > I could not find the called m

Re: Re: Faster shutdown and the ubuntu "multiuser" update-rc.d extention

2008-01-04 Thread Ph. Marek
[[ Sorry for intruding in a thread read via http://lists.debian.org ... I hope I get the reply-headers correct. ]] > > How feasible would it be to make the pause time a function of the > > number of processes sendsig must reclaim? That seems to make some > > sense to me. Obviously there should

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2008-01-04 Thread jengpal
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Re: Future Debian package candidate web pages: present and future

2008-01-04 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 03/01/08 at 23:50 +0100, Sebastian Pipping wrote: > Hello! > > > The two web pages "Packages being worked on" [1] and > "Requested packages" [2] have several shortcomings: The same shortcomings exist for the orphaned packages. > I think that a bit more infrastructure could do a lot > here, e.g

Re: Faster shutdown and the ubuntu "multiuser" update-rc.d extention

2008-01-04 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 07:18:53PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: > On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 07:11:01PM +0100, Michael Tautschnig wrote: > > Once we are at it: If we don't do clean shutdowns of the services anymore, > > why > > don't you just turn off power instead of taking the pain to kill the > >

Bug#459208: ITP: anyterm -- A terminal emulator on a Web page using Javascript and an Apache module

2008-01-04 Thread Mohammed Sameer
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Mohammed Sameer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: anyterm Version : 1.1.16 Upstream Author : Phil Endecott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://anyterm.org/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C++ Description : A ter

Re: Faster shutdown and the ubuntu "multiuser" update-rc.d extention

2008-01-04 Thread Simon Richter
Hi, Wouter Verhelst wrote: I really think you ought to be a little bit more sure than "which might or might not be enough" before starting to play with other people's data. Erm, if a daemon loses data if it is given five seconds advance warning, then it would also lose data on power loss, wh

Bug#199653: Check it

2008-01-04 Thread Carl Bailey
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Re: Faster shutdown and the ubuntu "multiuser" update-rc.d extention

2008-01-04 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le vendredi 04 janvier 2008 à 18:36 +0100, Simon Richter a écrit : > Erm, if a daemon loses data if it is given five seconds advance warning, > then it would also lose data on power loss, which is a bug and should be > fixed, not worked around. > > The only reason to wait longer for a daemon on

Re: Faster shutdown and the ubuntu "multiuser" update-rc.d extention

2008-01-04 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 01 janvier 2008 à 15:24 +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen a écrit : > Ubuntu discovered this a while back, and introduced a method to avoid > calling stop scripts in runlevel 0 and 6. It is the "multiuser" > extension to update-rc.d, and in Ubuntu packages are changed to calls > dh_installinit w

Re: Faster shutdown and the ubuntu "multiuser" update-rc.dextention

2008-01-04 Thread Joe Smith
"Josselin Mouette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Ubuntu discovered this a while back, and introduced a method to avoid calling stop scripts in runlevel 0 and 6. It is the "multiuser" extension to update-rc.d, and in Ubuntu packages are changed to calls dh_installi

Re: Faster shutdown and the ubuntu "multiuser" update-rc.d extention

2008-01-04 Thread Joe Smith
"Petter Reinholdtsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [Joe Smith] Obviously removing those scripts should have no impact on the other initscripts. Exactly, (unless there is a dependency relation between two scripts and one of them is removed from the shutdown seq

Re: Faster shutdown and the ubuntu "multiuser" update-rc.dextention

2008-01-04 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Fri, Jan 04, 2008 at 06:43:54PM +, Joe Smith wrote: > > "Josselin Mouette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>Ubuntu discovered this a while back, and introduced a method to avoid > >>calling stop scripts in runlevel 0 and 6. It is the "multiuser" > >>extens

Re: Faster shutdown and the ubuntu "multiuser" update-rc.d extention

2008-01-04 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Joe Smith] > Ok. Good catch. So it seems to me that any service that is not a > shutdown prerquisite of annother service (a.k.a must be shut down > first) and which can be cleanly shutdown with [SIGTERM; pause; > SIGKILL] is a good candidate for removing the shutdown init script. Actually, a shu

Re: Faster shutdown and the ubuntu "multiuser" update-rc.d extention

2008-01-04 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Josselin Mouette] > Frankly I couldn’t imagine a worse idea to fix this problem. > > Many daemons will corrupt their state if they aren’t killed cleanly. > Leaving them a grace time is actually worse than simply cutting the > power, because you can be sure the daemon is actually writing some data

Re: Future Debian package candidate web pages: present and future

2008-01-04 Thread Sebastian Pipping
Lucas Nussbaum wrote: The two web pages "Packages being worked on" [1] and "Requested packages" [2] have several shortcomings: The same shortcomings exist for the orphaned packages. Do I understand right that orphaned packages are packages already left unmaintained while up-for-adoption means

Re: Faster shutdown and the ubuntu "multiuser" update-rc.d extention

2008-01-04 Thread Steve Greenland
On 04-Jan-08, 11:36 (CST), Simon Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Erm, if a daemon loses data if it is given five seconds advance warning, > then it would also lose data on power loss, which is a bug and should be > fixed, not worked around. No, it's not a bug, it's simply a fact of life fo

pkg-$GROUP on Alioth: please whitelist messages from BTS (was Re: Bug#459247: grub-pc: please don't play with /boot/grub/menu.lst)

2008-01-04 Thread Luca Capello
Hello! On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 00:14:03 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Posting to this list is only allowed to subscribers. > > From: Luca Capello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Bug#459247: grub-pc: please don't play with /boot/grub/menu.lst > To: Debian Bug Tracking System <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > D

Re: pkg-$GROUP on Alioth: please whitelist messages from BTS (was Re: Bug#459247: grub-pc: please don't play with /boot/grub/menu.lst)

2008-01-04 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sat, 05 Jan 2008, Luca Capello wrote: > Can we make mandatory the Alioth/PackagingProject guidelines for > mailing list as maintainer (point 2.3) [1] (also Alioth/FAQ, point > 2.5 [2])? I don't ask for completely open mailing lists, but at > least moderated. It should be mandatory at least for

Re: Faster shutdown and the ubuntu "multiuser" update-rc.d extention

2008-01-04 Thread Josselin Mouette
On ven, 2008-01-04 at 21:58 +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > I am unable to understand your argument. You seem to claim that > because some daemons need a shutdown script, those that do _not_ need > a shutdown script but would work fine by just being killed should keep > their shutdown scripts,

Re: Future Debian package candidate web pages: present and future

2008-01-04 Thread Ben Finney
Sebastian Pipping <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > >> The two web pages "Packages being worked on" [1] and > >> "Requested packages" [2] have several shortcomings: > > > > The same shortcomings exist for the orphaned packages. > > Do I understand right that orphaned packages

Re: pkg-$GROUP on Alioth: please whitelist messages from BTS (was Re: Bug#459247: grub-pc: please don't play with /boot/grub/menu.lst)

2008-01-04 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 11255 March 1977, Don Armstrong wrote: > It should be mandatory at least for it to accept messages from the > BTS,[1] and be moderated otherwise. > I e-mailed both Robert and Otavio from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to this effect on > the first, but haven't heard back from them. Hopefully they will > re

Re: -Wl,--as-needed considered possibly harmful

2008-01-04 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 11:53:16AM +, Neil Williams wrote: > > Because *all* libraries which have other libs as reverse-dependencies should > > implement symbol versioning, precisely as the shortest path for reliably and > > permanently addressing the various issues we're discussing. > > It *i

Bug#459256: ITP: libalien-wxwidgets-perl -- building, finding and using wxWidgets binaries

2008-01-04 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Package name: libalien-wxwidgets-perl Version : 0.32 Upstream Author : Mattia Barbon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist

Testers wanted for Gutenprint 5.0.2

2008-01-04 Thread Roger Leigh
Hi folks, I have packaged Gutenprint 5.0.2, but unfortunately my inkjet printer is out of black ink, so I'm unable to do the testing I normally do to verify that it's all working correctly before I upload it. The packages are at http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/gutenprint-5.0.2/ If anyone who

Re: Future Debian package candidate web pages: present and future

2008-01-04 Thread Raphael Geissert
Hello, Sebastian Pipping wrote: > * what you think It is a good idea to make those pages more useful :) > * how it can be done Ok, let's go point by point: > * No sorting by age AFAIR the SOAP interface can provide you with such information (refer to the wiki page). > * No importance/popular

Bug#459268: ITP: libev -- high-performance event loop library modelled after libevent

2008-01-04 Thread Robert Edmonds
Package: wnpp Owner: "Robert S. Edmonds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Severity: wishlist * Package name: libev Version : 2.01 Upstream Author : Marc Alexander Lehmann * URL : http://libev.schmorp.de/ * License : BSD Programming Lang: C Description : high-performa