Re: texlive-basic_2005-1_i386.changes REJECTED

2005-11-29 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi Miles! On Die, 29 Nov 2005, Miles Bader wrote: >PKG-doc >PKG-doc-LANG (LANG is usually code like "fr") > > Not sure, but I guess either just "texlive-doc" or "texlive-doc-base". Done, texlive-doc-XX > > For the language stuff: Here is a problem as some languages packa

Re: texlive-basic_2005-1_i386.changes REJECTED

2005-11-29 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi Jörg! On Mon, 28 Nov 2005, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > > Please comment, not only on the package naming, but also on the > > bin-to-source mapping. > > Hey, that looks ways better than the initial upload. Good work. :) > And with 5 sources left its also much less then what I suggested. Thanks. I a

Re: texlive-basic_2005-1_i386.changes REJECTED

2005-11-29 Thread Norbert Preining
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: > > texlive-binaries-source 96M > > --- > > texlive-basicbintexlive-base-bin > > texlive-binextratexlive-extrautils > > I'd suggest texline-extra-utils here, because (at least to me) "extra" ok.

Re: texlive-basic_2005-1_i386.changes REJECTED

2005-11-29 Thread Miles Bader
Norbert Preining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Existing usage seems a bit mixed; the main common point seems to be >> "-LANG" as a suffix. Some patterns are: >> >>PKG-LANG >>PKG-locale-LANG (this seems the most common) >>PKG-l10n-LANG(openoffice uses this

Re: texlive-basic_2005-1_i386.changes REJECTED

2005-11-29 Thread Joerg Jaspert
Miles Bader schrieb: > I agree "-lang-" is probably better than locale/l10n/i18n for the reason > you state. > However, why not use the official language codes where available (keeping > the "longname" where there is no code)? They mean exactly what you want, > and are widely used in debian packa

Re: texlive-basic_2005-1_i386.changes REJECTED

2005-11-29 Thread Norbert Preining
On Die, 29 Nov 2005, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > > I agree "-lang-" is probably better than locale/l10n/i18n for the reason > > you state. > > One thing please, either iso codes or longnames, not both. longnames, as I said. lang- for exactely this reason, not wanting to have different standards. Best

Re: package name changes in atlas-cpp (was Re: library renaming due to changed libstdc++ configuration)

2005-11-29 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 10:09:00AM -0600, Ming Hua wrote: > On Tue, Nov 15, 2005 at 06:28:05AM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: > > * Rename and rebuild the libraries listed below. The new suffix for > >these packages should be in any case "c2a" (instead of "c2"). No > >new suffix is needed w

Re: texlive-basic_2005-1_i386.changes REJECTED

2005-11-29 Thread Miles Bader
Joerg Jaspert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > No please. That would make confusion. Half of the packages named in one > way, half of them named the other way. > One thing please, either iso codes or longnames, not both. I think that's wrong -- there are very few exceptions, and those are _exceptions

Re: package name changes in atlas-cpp (was Re: library renaming due to changed libstdc++ configuration)

2005-11-29 Thread Stephan Hermann
Hi Ming, Steve, others, I did the merge and rename of this library package, so I think I should answer as well: On Tuesday 29 November 2005 11:03, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 10:09:00AM -0600, Ming Hua wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 15, 2005 at 06:28:05AM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote

Re: package name changes in atlas-cpp (was Re: library renaming due to changed libstdc++ configuration)

2005-11-29 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 11:38:32AM +0100, Stephan Hermann wrote: > Hi Ming, Steve, others, > On Tuesday 29 November 2005 11:03, Steve Langasek wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 10:09:00AM -0600, Ming Hua wrote: > > > On Tue, Nov 15, 2005 at 06:28:05AM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: > > > > * Renam

Re: Secret changes for binNMUs

2005-11-29 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Roger Leigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This is very true. I wasn't aware of the SVN repository until it was > mentioned in this thread. Over the weekend, I have merged almost all > the SVN changes: Many thanks for the work. It is greatly appreciated. MfG Goswin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: dpkg-sig support wanted?

2005-11-29 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> The archive signing key gives absolutely no integrity ensurance on the >> deb package. The only thing it insures is that the file was not >> altered _after_ leaving ftp.de.debian.org for the mir

Re: Secret changes for binNMUs

2005-11-29 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Andreas Metzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Sat, 26 Nov 2005, Andreas Metzler wrote: >>> Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> [...] Meanwhile, I am using this: unversioned depends and two conflicts: (<<

Re: dpkg-sig support wanted?

2005-11-29 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
"Steinar H. Gunderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, Nov 26, 2005 at 09:13:02AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: >>> Moving away from MD5 is certainly not a bad idea, but it's not clear >>> whether the alternatives are any better. Sure, everyone recommends >>> SHA-256 at this stage, but nobody

Re: dpkg-sig support wanted?

2005-11-29 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Anthony Towns writes: > On Fri, Nov 25, 2005 at 12:49:11PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: >> Anthony Towns writes: >> > .deb signatures are aimed at giving users some sort of assurance the >> > package is "valid"; but when you actually look into it -- at least in >> > Debian's circumstances -

Re: dpkg-sig support wanted?

2005-11-29 Thread Florian Weimer
* Anthony Towns: > On Sat, Nov 26, 2005 at 10:59:57AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: >> For the "exploits" we have seen so far to work, the malicious party >> needs upload access to the archive and has to plant a specially >> crafted package there, for which they have created an evil twin >> package

Re: dpkg-sig support wanted?

2005-11-29 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Nov 25, 2005 at 02:57:36PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> > On Thu, Nov 24, 2005 at 07:17:06PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > >> >> > That's easy: you trust the Packages file to be cor

Re: dpkg-sig support wanted?

2005-11-29 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
"Steinar H. Gunderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, Nov 26, 2005 at 10:47:57AM +1100, Brian May wrote: Well, even if I know naught about it, it looks to me that having something signed is better than having the same something not signed. >>> Sorry, but that's a snake oil rationa

Re: dpkg-sig support wanted?

2005-11-29 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Anthony Towns writes: > On Fri, Nov 25, 2005 at 03:13:58PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> > You're correct. >> And he is also wrong. >> That would result in debs with the same name and version but different >> md5sums. Something that easily confuses apt-get and people. > > And yet, somehow

Re: dpkg-sig support wanted?

2005-11-29 Thread Jochen Voss
Hi! On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 02:08:45PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > According to slashdot articles you can generate human readable files > (like the Packages file) with md5sum collision in ~45minutes on a > modern cpu now. I found the example at http://www.cits.rub.de/MD5Collisions/ quite

Re: dpkg-sig support wanted?

2005-11-29 Thread Florian Weimer
* Jochen Voss: > On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 02:08:45PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> According to slashdot articles you can generate human readable files >> (like the Packages file) with md5sum collision in ~45minutes on a >> modern cpu now. > I found the example at http://www.cits.rub.de/MD

Re: dpkg-sig support wanted?

2005-11-29 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Anthony Towns > On Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 10:15:34PM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote: >> I would expect something like >> $ dsum -a sha1 COPYING; sha1sum COPYING >> s.w4runjyMTV1ZT_VIob4FRTAjAW1ihpMfZRLbIV7B_UI COPYING > sha1sum already exists; and isn't that long. Do you mean sha256? Feh.

Re: texlive-basic_2005-1_i386.changes REJECTED

2005-11-29 Thread Frank Küster
Anthony DeRobertis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Norbert Preining wrote: > >>>allrunes dfsg >>> >>>Please: Tell me its not true that the DFSG is used as a license there. >> >> >> As stated in the License file, this list was generated from the TeX >> Catalogue, which *can be wrong*! If you c

Bug#341242: ITP: minisip -- SIP phone, with GTK+ interface

2005-11-29 Thread Alejandro Rios P.
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: minisip Version : 0.7.0 Upstream Author : Erik Eliasson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Johan Bilien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.minisip.org/ * License : (GPL, LGPL) Description : SIP pho

Re: dpkg-sig support wanted?

2005-11-29 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > * Jochen Voss: >> I found the example at http://www.cits.rub.de/MD5Collisions/ quite >> impressive. They have two different valid PostScript files with >> identical MD5 sums. I don't know how much computing time they used, >> though. They claim a fe

Re: texlive-basic_2005-1_i386.changes REJECTED

2005-11-29 Thread Peter Samuelson
First of all, let me cast my vote for -doc-XX rather than -XX-doc. It makes much more sense from a sorted package names point of view, which, as others have said, is important in package manager UIs. [Norbert Preining] > texlive-documentation-czechslovak texlive-cs-doc Czech and Slovak are two

Re: texlive-basic_2005-1_i386.changes REJECTED

2005-11-29 Thread Norbert Preining
On Die, 29 Nov 2005, Peter Samuelson wrote: > First of all, let me cast my vote for -doc-XX rather than -XX-doc. It Already implemented. > [Norbert Preining] > > texlive-documentation-czechslovak texlive-cs-doc > > Czech and Slovak are two different languages, 'cs' and 'sk'. You > should check

Re: texlive-basic_2005-1_i386.changes REJECTED

2005-11-29 Thread Michal Politowski
On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 17:01:25 +0100, Norbert Preining wrote: > On Die, 29 Nov 2005, Peter Samuelson wrote: > > First of all, let me cast my vote for -doc-XX rather than -XX-doc. It > > Already implemented. > > > [Norbert Preining] > > > texlive-documentation-czechslovak texlive-cs-doc > > > > Cz

Bug#341259: ITP: esense -- ESense (ErlangSense) is a minor emacs mode which provides features similar to IntelliSense or CodeSense in other editors.

2005-11-29 Thread Francois-Denis Gonthier
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Francois-Denis Gonthier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: esense Version : 1.10 Upstream Author : Tamas Patrovics ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) * URL : http://esense.sf.net * License : GPL Description : ESense (ErlangSense

Bug#341260: ITP: actr5 -- Cognitive architecture from CMU

2005-11-29 Thread Francois-Denis Gonthier
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Francois-Denis Gonthier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: actr5 Version : 20040422 Upstream Author : Mike Byrne & Dan Bothell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) * URL : http://act-r.psy.cmu.edu/ * License : GPL Description : Co

Re: net-tools maintenance status

2005-11-29 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 8/2/05, Olaf van der Spek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > What's the maintenance status of the net-tools package? > It has 88 bugs: > Serious policy violations - outstanding (1 bug) > Important bugs - outstanding (8 bugs) > Normal bugs - outstanding (38 bugs) > Minor bugs - outstanding (9 b

Re: dpkg-sig support wanted?

2005-11-29 Thread Jochen Voss
Hi Florian, On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 03:24:54PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > None, many of these examples were created before the collision > generation tools were generally available. The "exploit" uses some > properties of Postscript files which make them not very desirable for > storing elect

Re: net-tools maintenance status

2005-11-29 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 11/29/05, Bernd Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 06:08:23PM +0100, Olaf van der Spek wrote: > > And nearly four months later, the package has 92 bugs, 16 with patch > > and a lot even without a single response. > > This is not true. What part isn't? > Stop botheri

Re: net-tools maintenance status

2005-11-29 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 06:08:23PM +0100, Olaf van der Spek wrote: > And nearly four months later, the package has 92 bugs, 16 with patch > and a lot even without a single response. This is not true. Stop bothering me. Most of the patches are not valid. Please work on the bugs which are tagged as

Non-DFSG TeXLive stuff [was: Re: texlive-basic_2005-1_i386.changes REJECTED]

2005-11-29 Thread Kevin B. McCarty
Norbert Preining wrote: > And if you take a look at the texlive ml at tug.org, I can assure you > that Karl Berry is very eager in dropping everything from TeX live which > has the slightest problem with being DFSG free. Hmm... in that case, I should mention my experience with XyMTeX, an organic

Re: Non-DFSG TeXLive stuff [was: Re: texlive-basic_2005-1_i386.changes REJECTED]

2005-11-29 Thread Norbert Preining
On Die, 29 Nov 2005, Kevin B. McCarty wrote: > Hmm... in that case, I should mention my experience with XyMTeX, an > organic chemistry LaTeX package included in TeX Live. Anyone else who > wants to comment on non-DFSG-free components of TeX Live may as well > follow up to this email. > > See Debi

Re: texlive-basic_2005-1_i386.changes REJECTED

2005-11-29 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 10488 March 1977, Norbert Preining wrote: >> Hey, that looks ways better than the initial upload. Good work. :) >> And with 5 sources left its also much less then what I suggested. > Thanks. I always try to incorporate suggestions. I could even go down to > one source package, that would be eas

Re: Non-DFSG TeXLive stuff [was: Re: texlive-basic_2005-1_i386.changes REJECTED]

2005-11-29 Thread Kevin B. McCarty
Norbert Preining wrote: > To my reading that thread didn't end in a conclusion that it is not > acceptable. > > Furthermore, IMHO, if it would be *not* acceptable, then we would > have to remove all, I repeat *ALL* LPPL licensed packages. > > I guess this is something we don't want to have in

Re: Checksumming tool

2005-11-29 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Adam Heath] > > File: foo%20bar/hellurei.txt > > Size: 12345 > > MD5: 012345667 > > SHA-256: 0a0a0a0a0a0a0a0a0a0a0a0a > > Mode: 0644 > Checksum: > md5: 0123456789[B > sha-256: 0a0a0a0a0a0a0a0a0a0a0a0a Checksum: md5: 01230123012301230123012301230123 C

Re: texlive-basic_2005-1_i386.changes REJECTED

2005-11-29 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 10488 March 1977, Frank Küster wrote: allrunes dfsg Please: Tell me its not true that the DFSG is used as a license there. >>> As stated in the License file, this list was generated from the TeX >>> Catalogue, which *can be wrong*! If you check the actual allrunes files, >>> you s

Re: texlive-basic_2005-1_i386.changes REJECTED

2005-11-29 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 28 novembre 2005 à 08:07 +0100, Norbert Preining a écrit : > > Im also not really happy with the current packaging, starting with the too > > heavy split of (source) packages. > > Ok, this can be dealt with. I thought it would be better to have a > strict relation between source and bin p

Re: texlive-basic_2005-1_i386.changes REJECTED

2005-11-29 Thread Norbert Preining
On Die, 29 Nov 2005, Josselin Mouette wrote: > I'd go further, by asking why there must be so many binary packages. Of > course, granularity is good, but too much granularity only means > confusion. When I install a TeX system, I want a working environment > without wondering if I need to install t

Re: texlive-basic_2005-1_i386.changes REJECTED

2005-11-29 Thread Norbert Preining
On Die, 29 Nov 2005, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > > one source package, that would be easiest for me. Then we would have the > > TeX live iso image, add a debian subdir and build everything. But then > > again, who want's to upload 700M all the time. > > No, not one single thing. Brrr. Guess so. Would

Re: Bug#341259: ITP: esense -- ESense (ErlangSense) is a minor emacs mode which provides features similar to IntelliSense or CodeSense in other editors.

2005-11-29 Thread Benjamin Mesing
> Description : ESense (ErlangSense) is a minor emacs mode which provides > features similar to IntelliSense or CodeSense in other editors. This line seems to be too long to me. Also it refers to IntelliSense and CodeSense where you cannot assume that they are known. Also do not start your s

Re: texlive-basic_2005-1_i386.changes REJECTED

2005-11-29 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 29 novembre 2005 à 22:16 +0100, Norbert Preining a écrit : > Please read the thread following the ITP. If you want teTeX, install it. > There is no way that we can make one binary package for close to 1Gb of > software. When did I ask you to make one single binary package? > The granula

Re: Bug#341259: ITP: esense -- ESense (ErlangSense) is a minor emacs mode which provides features similar to IntelliSense or CodeSense in other editors.

2005-11-29 Thread Benjamin Mesing
Another thought: > * Package name: esense A lot of emacs modes are named -mode (haskell-mode, asn1-mode,...) . In this fashion you might also consider naming it erlang-mode. > ESense will help developers write Erlang programs more quickly by > helping them refer to the function exported by a

Re: texlive-basic_2005-1_i386.changes REJECTED

2005-11-29 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi Josselin! On Die, 29 Nov 2005, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > There is no way that we can make one binary package for close to 1Gb of > > software. > > When did I ask you to make one single binary package? Even if I take five packages each of it will be bigger than anything else in Debian and c

Madrid Spain Link Request

2005-11-29 Thread Madrid
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Re: How to automatically update files on alioth from svn

2005-11-29 Thread Yann Dirson
Frank wrote: > I'd like to keep the files in the "Project Home Page" area of alioth in > our SVN repository, and I'm looking for a way to automate the updating > of these pages. I have written a small post-commit hook for a somewhat different usage (the original problem was versionning the hooks t

Bug#341284: ITP: shttpd -- SHTTPD is a lightweight embeddable web server

2005-11-29 Thread Eddie Tejeda
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Eddie Tejeda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: shttpd Version : 1.29 Upstream Author : Sergey Lyubka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://shttpd.sourceforge.net/ * License : MIT Description : SHTTPD is a lightweight

call to libpam-mysql update

2005-11-29 Thread knightmare steve
libpam-mysql is a widely used pam module that can auth a user via mysql database.But the version in debian unstable/testing is out of date that has no compatible function with mysql md5() function.There is wishlist in bug tracking system but looks like the maintainer had no response.We need an upg

Re: How to automatically update files on alioth from svn

2005-11-29 Thread Richard Atterer
On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 10:30:04PM +0100, Yann Dirson wrote: > I have written a small post-commit hook for a somewhat different usage > (the original problem was versionning the hooks themselves). I've been doing this for quite a while with a variety of SVN repos, with very different users and c

Re: texlive-basic_2005-1_i386.changes REJECTED

2005-11-29 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 10488 March 1977, Norbert Preining wrote: >> > There is no way that we can make one binary package for close to 1Gb of >> > software. >> When did I ask you to make one single binary package? > Even if I take five packages each of it will be bigger than anything > else in Debian and completely

Re: texlive-basic_2005-1_i386.changes REJECTED

2005-11-29 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi Jörg! On Mit, 30 Nov 2005, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > >> > There is no way that we can make one binary package for close to 1Gb of > >> > software. > >> When did I ask you to make one single binary package? > > Even if I take five packages each of it will be bigger than anything > > else in Debian

Stephen Frost MIA?

2005-11-29 Thread José Luis Tallón
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Stephen. Having sent you e-mails with my last answers to the Tasks&Skills stage of the NM process on 2005/10/05, and having received receipt confirmation from you on 2005/10/18, i still have no answer from you. Moreover, i have ping'd you

Re: How to use lsb init-functions

2005-11-29 Thread Chris Lawrence
Thomas - My apologies for not getting back to you sooner on this; I've been bouncing around the country due to holidays and job interviews. On 11/22/05, Thomas Hood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In trying to convert the initscripts in the "initscripts" package to use > the logging functions in /lib

Re: Stephen Frost MIA?

2005-11-29 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
Hi José, how about sending this to Frontdesk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> or MIA, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> instead of spamming debian-devel with that? Greetings Martin > Hi, Stephen. > > Having sent you e-mails with my last answers to the Tasks&Skills > stage of the NM process on 2005/10/05, and having