On the one hand, I think it's polite and the "socially responsible"
thing to give credit where credit is due, i.e., to acknowledge the
debian maintainers whose work is used.
On the other hand, I've had packages for which ubuntu has moved to a
newer upstream version without properly updating the d
On Sat, Apr 30, 2005 at 08:59:55PM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> > https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/people/adamm/
>
> They have a similar page for me. Nothing there indicates that I am not an
> Ubuntu employee.
The same for me. And the funny thing is that
https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/people/fenio/+pac
I've lurked for a while in [EMAIL PROTECTED] hoping that that would
be the right place for such discussions, and, when they happen, the
subscribers are usually pretty clued-in and interested. Perhaps it is
the natural place to discuss web-apps? At least until traffic is
sufficient that the Debian A
On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 05:08:04PM +1000, Ben Burton wrote:
> So I guess all I'm saying is that, if you're choosing whether or not
> to attribute packages to the respective debian maintainers, there's no
> obvious default that won't upset somebody (either through lack of
> recognition, or through b
On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 07:28:48PM +1200, Martin Langhoff wrote:
> I've lurked for a while in [EMAIL PROTECTED] hoping that that would
> be the right place for such discussions, and, when they happen, the
> subscribers are usually pretty clued-in and interested. Perhaps it is
> the natural place to
On Sunday, 1 de May de 2005 03:34, Adam Majer wrote:
> Anyway, the bottom line is,
> 1. I'm a Debian Developer and chose to be associated with Debian
> 2. I have not chosen or gave permission to be associated with
> modified/unmodified packages of other distributions (that may or may not
>
On Sun, 2005-05-01 at 10:14 +0200, Francesco Paolo Lovergine wrote:
> On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 07:28:48PM +1200, Martin Langhoff wrote:
> > I've lurked for a while in [EMAIL PROTECTED] hoping that that would
> > be the right place for such discussions, and, when they happen, the
> > subscribers are
On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 12:38:41AM +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 30, 2005 at 06:45:26PM -0300, Otavio Salvador wrote:
> > But you remove the package from testing doesn't mean we won't have
> > users with it installed since it was present there so, IMHO, the
> > Confl
On Sat, Apr 30, 2005 at 10:04:35PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> A Replaces without a Conflicts is I think always wrong.
No, absolutely not. See policy, section 7.5, for details -- especially
section 7.5.1.
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On Sat, Apr 30, 2005 at 08:34:09PM -0500, Adam Majer wrote:
> Well, at least on pages like,
>
> http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/misc/mysql-query-browser
>
> They have "Adam Majer is responsible for this Debian package" with a
> link to Debian's QA. This reference I find acceptable, but better
>
Pascal Hakim wrote:
Speaking as a listmaster, I believe that a list that would be used to
provide people with a place to discuss the packaging of web-apps, as
well as standard things associated with it is a great idea. It's better
than debian-apache (after all, there's other web servers out there),
On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 11:56:47AM +0200, Alexis Sukrieh wrote:
> Pascal Hakim wrote:
> >Speaking as a listmaster, I believe that a list that would be used to
> >provide people with a place to discuss the packaging of web-apps, as
> >well as standard things associated with it is a great idea. It's
* Adam Majer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050501 03:35]:
> I just search Google for me and I found this,
>
> https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/people/adamm/
>
> Now, I never signed up to be a maintainer for Ubuntu. I don't understand
> why I am part of "people of Ubuntu" or why I am listed as a maintainer
> o
"Adam M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Anthony DeRobertis wrote:
>
>>Klaus Ethgen wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>The according bug is #306608.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>This is a bug, though possibly not in the libwxgtk2.4-python package. If
>>the relevant maintainers (libwxgtk2.4-python, wxpython2.5.3) and bug
>>s
Hi,
Shaun Jackman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hello,
>
> How do I use a Debian machine, such as bruckner, to test a source
> package by compiling for powerpc? I see bruckner has a sarge chroot.
> What's the magic command to start the build in this chroot? I know of
> pbuilder -- though I haven'
Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Sat, Apr 30, 2005 at 10:04:35PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
>> A Replaces without a Conflicts is I think always wrong.
>
> No, absolutely not. See policy, section 7.5, for details -- especially
> section 7.5.1.
Still leaves the following pro
On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 12:08:01PM +0200, Francesco Paolo Lovergine wrote:
> On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 11:56:47AM +0200, Alexis Sukrieh wrote:
> > Pascal Hakim wrote:
> > >Speaking as a listmaster, I believe that a list that would be used to
> > >provide people with a place to discuss the packaging o
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Hello,
Just some respoces: (There is several quotings from several people.)
1st the tecnical:
Josselin Mouette:
> As I understand the issue, I have to agree with the maintainer: the
> conflict statement should be added in the wxwidgets 2.5 packages,
Package: wnpp
Severity: normal
Hello,
I use LaTeX rarely recently and I am no longer interested in maintaining
this package. If anyone is interested please adopt this package.
It is recommended that new maintainer has profound knowledge about vim
scripting.
Tha package has 9 outstanding bugs, 5 of
Jeroen van Wolffelaar a écrit :
I'm strongly in favour of a lists.debian.org, and I'm sure it'll be
created swiftly when we choose a sane name for it.
If possible, I also think that a lists.debian.org is better, and will
underline the fact that a real coordination is needed around webapp
packages
On Sat, 30 Apr 2005, Steve Langasek wrote:
> particular make upgrades painful, and shlibdeps have no bearing on plugins.
Ok, no conflicts, no shlibdep bump.
> > The truth is libnss-mysql (and any other libnss-* of the sort) should
> > conflict with any libmysqlclient (or any other lib of the sort
On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 01:10:50PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Shaun Jackman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > How do I use a Debian machine, such as bruckner, to test a source
> > package by compiling for powerpc? I see bruckner has a sarge chroot.
> > What's the
On Sun, 2005-05-01 at 14:28 +0200, Alexis Sukrieh wrote:
> Jeroen van Wolffelaar a Ãcrit :
> > I'm strongly in favour of a lists.debian.org, and I'm sure it'll be
> > created swiftly when we choose a sane name for it.
>
> If possible, I also think that a lists.debian.org is better, and will
> und
On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 02:28:00PM +0200, Alexis Sukrieh wrote:
> So let's find a name, here are some ideas I have "on the fly", feel free
> to comment on it:
>
>- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ugly name IMHO. But then again, who am I to say you shouldn't be using
an ugly name? ;-)
>- debian-www@li
On Sun, 2005-05-01 at 12:08 +0200, Francesco Paolo Lovergine wrote:
> On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 11:56:47AM +0200, Alexis Sukrieh wrote:
> > Pascal Hakim wrote:
> > >Speaking as a listmaster, I believe that a list that would be used to
> > >provide people with a place to discuss the packaging of web-a
Pascal Hakim a Ãcrit :
- debian-www@lists.debian.org
err... you're kidding right?
Hmmm.. he he :)
Sorry for that stupid mistake!
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If I understand well, those two names could be interesting:
- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I find the first one a little bit ugly (the "webapp" word is not that
clean for a mailing list I think) and I also find the second problematic
because of the word "packages".
This leads me to
On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 01:33:08PM +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
> Eh, because you believe a new lists.d.o list could take a bit of delay,
> an alioth list is better?
>
> Sorry, but I don't agree with the reasoning -- lists.debian.org is for
> general discussion lists, while alioth is more f
Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 01:10:50PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Shaun Jackman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > How do I use a Debian machine, such as bruckner, to test a source
>> > package by compiling for powe
sean finney a écrit :
well, given that there will most likely result a package or two from the
discussion, as well as a policy (hopefully :), and both of which will
need some kind of working repository to which we all have access, it
would make sense to start up an alioth project anyway.
I agree.
On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 04:34:17PM +0200, Alexis Sukrieh wrote:
> I agree. That cannot hurt to have a working area.
> I also vote for a SVN account.
i didn't think you could do svn on alioth. can you?
> >so, that said, i'm going to go ahead and apply for an alioth project
> >for the packaging re
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* Package name: quesoglc
Version : 0.2
Upstream Author : Bertrand Coconnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://quesoglc.sf.net/
* License : LGPL
Description : Free implementation of SGI's OpenGL Ch
On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 09:56:42AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 30, 2005 at 10:04:35PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> > A Replaces without a Conflicts is I think always wrong.
>
> No, absolutely not. See policy, section 7.5, for details -- especially
> section 7.5.1.
Policy i
On 30/04/2005 Steve Langasek wrote:
> > 2. backport the fixes for bug#306906 from 1.2 to 1.1.6 and prepare a
> >sarge release with python2.2. i do like this idea but up to now i
> >couldn't find out which one is the corresponding code change in
> >python-mysqldb to fix #306906.
>
> Rel
On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 01:10:50PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've had an idea in mind for quite some time now for just this
> problem.
>
> It would be nice to have a buildd where maintainer can upload sources
> for a testbuild and they get a buildd log back (and possibly the
>
On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 11:40:19AM +0200, Frank Lichtenheld wrote:
> I have to confess this is mainly because I maintain both
> packages.debian.org and packages.ubuntu.com and just copied the code.
> If anyone has suggestions how to improve the wording on the Ubuntu
> part, my email adress is in th
* James Treacy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050501 21:15]:
> On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 11:40:19AM +0200, Frank Lichtenheld wrote:
> > I have to confess this is mainly because I maintain both
> > packages.debian.org and packages.ubuntu.com and just copied the code.
> > If anyone has suggestions how to improve
On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 09:36:57PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
> Actually, I don't think that the packages.*-code is part of the problem.
> Ubuntu treats the Debian maintainers at many places as "their"
> maintainers, e.g. at apt-cache show $package. The packages.*-code just
> displays that wrong
Hi Matt!
On Sun, 01 May 2005, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 09:36:57PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
>
> > Actually, I don't think that the packages.*-code is part of the problem.
> > Ubuntu treats the Debian maintainers at many places as "their"
> > maintainers, e.g. at apt-cach
On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 03:38:51PM +0200, Alexis Sukrieh wrote:
> If I understand well, those two names could be interesting:
>
> - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> I find the first one a little bit ugly (the "webapp" word is not that
> clean for a mailing list I think) and I also
On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 10:01:42AM -0400, sean finney wrote:
> On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 01:33:08PM +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
> > Eh, because you believe a new lists.d.o list could take a bit of delay,
> > an alioth list is better?
> >
> > Sorry, but I don't agree with the reasoning -- lis
On Sat, Apr 30, 2005 at 08:34:09PM -0500, Adam Majer wrote:
> I just search Google for me and I found this,
>
> https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/people/adamm/
>
> Now, I never signed up to be a maintainer for Ubuntu. I don't understand
> why I am part of "people of Ubuntu" or why I am listed as a ma
On Sun, 2005-05-01 at 22:38 +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote:
> Hi Matt!
>
> On Sun, 01 May 2005, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
>
> > On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 09:36:57PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
> >
> > > Actually, I don't think that the packages.*-code is part of the problem.
> > > Ubuntu treats the Debia
On May 01, John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Transcode is not in Debian because the codecs are not DFSG-compliant.
Do you mind explaining how you came to this conclusion?
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On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 01:48:26PM -0700, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 30, 2005 at 08:34:09PM -0500, Adam Majer wrote:
> > PS. This is not a troll against Ubuntu.
>
> In that case, can I ask why you addressed your concerns to debian-devel,
> rather than to the parties responsible for the we
On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 11:24:53PM +1000, Pascal Hakim wrote:
> > I think a suitable section in debian policy would be appropriate. And
> > mere technical discussions about the policy contents are also
> > appropriate in d-policy. All other technical discussions should go
> > in an alioth list. My
On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 04:19:03PM -0500, Kenneth Pronovici wrote:
> Besides that, I didn't see anyone from Ubuntu ever make a general
> announcement to Debian developers about who they should contact if they
> have concerns about things like this
I sent several of the early Ubuntu announcements
On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 03:00:54PM -0700, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 04:19:03PM -0500, Kenneth Pronovici wrote:
>
> > Besides that, I didn't see anyone from Ubuntu ever make a general
> > announcement to Debian developers about who they should contact if they
> > have concerns
On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 05:25:41PM -0500, Kenneth Pronovici wrote:
> On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 03:00:54PM -0700, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> > I sent several of the early Ubuntu announcements to debian-devel, so that
> > everyone knew what was happening and would have a point of contact if they
> > had
On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 10:38:01PM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote:
> Hi Matt!
>
> On Sun, 01 May 2005, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
>
> > On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 09:36:57PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
> >
> > > Actually, I don't think that the packages.*-code is part of the problem.
> > > Ubuntu treats th
On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 05:08:04PM +1000, Ben Burton wrote:
> On the other hand, I've had packages for which ubuntu has moved to a
> newer upstream version without properly updating the debian/ files,
> resulting in packages that are severely broken (some to the point of
> unusability), with my na
Sounds great! See you then.
Cheers,
Shaun
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> Alright! Let's all meet at 12:30 on Wednesday, May 4th at Kirin Sushi -
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>
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At Sat, 16 Apr 2005 16:39:08 +0200,
Martin Dickopp wrote:
> martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > also sprach Martin Dickopp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.04.16.1552 +0200]:
> >> Therefore, any actual behavior (including the existing one as well
> >> as the suggested alternatives) would be
sean finney a écrit :
On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 04:34:17PM +0200, Alexis Sukrieh wrote:
I agree. That cannot hurt to have a working area.
I also vote for a SVN account.
i didn't think you could do svn on alioth. can you?
Well not it depends on what you mean by "on alioth".
I know that you can reque
On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 04:03:48PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> > What would be the benefit of having a buildd that sends build logs to
> > the package maintainer that we don't have with any of the currently
> > existing systems?
>
> - you can test build one architecture without bothering
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