Hi, Herbert Xu wrote:
> If you think that it's so obvious, why don't you start by addressing my
> objections in the quoted bug report?
>
I see only one -- duplicate work, which has been beaten to death already.
But since you insist on my opinion ...
The fact is that it isn't. At time X, which is
Hi, Mathieu Roy wrote:
> Are they strong divergences on the goal to reach and the method to
> follow between Debian and freedesktop.org?
There don't seem to be.
But, assuming that we assume that .desktop files are The Future (they
have technical advantages over our menu files, and Debian is abou
Henning Makholm wrote:
> Evidently, so that's not what is proposed. The proposal is to enhance
> update-menus such that it knows how to parse .desktop files and feed
> the information from them transparently to menu methods that expect
> the Debian native format. Then debian-native menu systems wou
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 08:05:34PM +, Henning Makholm wrote:
> > You speak of a transition, but I see no transition plan here.
>
> What do you expect from a "transition plan" then?
>
> Step 1a: Update menu infrastructure such that packages can transparently
> supply either .desktop fil
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 11:08:53PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote:
> > I presume I can lower the dependencies on things like modutils and whatnot
> > down to the versions that are in stable with no ill-effects?
>
> It only depends on coreutils|fileutils, so there's no problems in that regard.
What a
Scripsit Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Henning Makholm wrote:
> > The proposal is to enhance update-menus such that it knows how to
> > parse .desktop files and feed the information from them
> > transparently to menu methods that expect the Debian native
> > format.
> The head of this thread i
Scripsit Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 08:05:34PM +, Henning Makholm wrote:
> > Step 2: Packagers can now chose to supply .desktop files instead of
> > the Debian format, with a versioned dependency on menu.
> I can see no reason to proceed any further t
Perhaps some folks would be interested in talking about Debian at
USELINUX in Boston next year? If someone in the Boston area would be
willing to help organize a Debian BOF and other activities, that would
be great.
I'm going to be fairly busy during the Usenix/USELINUX myself, between
being a
Matthias Urlichs wrote:
> Hi, Herbert Xu wrote:
> > If you think that it's so obvious, why don't you start by addressing my
> > objections in the quoted bug report?
> >
> I see only one -- duplicate work, which has been beaten to death already.
> But since you insist on my opinion ...
Nowhere in
Anthony DeRobertis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Fri, 2003-12-05 at 04:54, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>
> > > The only one which comes to mind is a rogue Debian developer that
> > > you do not wish to trust, even though the project trusts him.
> >
> > Not quite. The signed deb is non-repudia
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 12:57:53PM +0100, Mathieu Roy wrote:
> > Some or all of: twm, pdmenu, blackbox, afterstep, fluxbox, gtk-menu,
> > wmaker, fvwm2, enlightenment, etc, consult /etc/menu-methods for more.
> > There are dozens of programs that use the debian menus that would have
> > no reason t
On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 01:58:27PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote:
> Herbert, would it be possible to get the ACL kernel patch included in the
> Debian kernel source?
I'm afraid that you've missed boat for 2.4.23. I'll consider it for
2.4.24. Please file a bug report against kernel about it.
> Muc
Em Sex, 2003-12-05 Ãs 19:48, Joey Hess escreveu:
> > I see only one -- duplicate work, which has been beaten to death already.
> > But since you insist on my opinion ...
>
> Nowhere in Herbert's response to bug #219304 does he talk about
> "duplicate work". He's quite clearly talking about duplica
John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hello,
>
> For various reasons [1], I am interested in building Debian from source
> -- and continuing to do so for upgrades and newly-installed packages.
>
> What I'm after is basically something where I can say:
>
> apt-foo install kde
>
> The sys
On Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 12:53:21PM +1100, Herbert Xu wrote:
> I tried that twice and it just ate the commands file without
> doing anything in return.
It worked for me.
> In fact, none of my uploads have gone anywhere near the archive.
>
> The kernel packages for 2.4.23 disappeared without a tra
Anthony DeRobertis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Thu, 2003-12-04 at 19:06, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
>
> > > Actually, I think the biggest benefit of md5sums is that while
> > > attackers certainly could modify them, often they don't. While passing
> > > debsums certainly can't prove the int
Rene Engelhard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Upload a .commands file.
>
> See the README in pub/UploadQueue..
I tried that twice and it just ate the commands file without
doing anything in return.
In fact, none of my uploads have gone anywhere near the archive.
The kernel packages for 2.4.23
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On 2003-12-05 16:43, Andreas Tille wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Benj. Mako Hill wrote:
> > More importantly, Skolelinux has done more than almost any CDD in
> > terms of contributing back to Debian in both code and in
> > methodology. Their method of s
Em Qua, 2003-12-03 Ãs 18:31, Zenaan Harkness escreveu:
> > If the Debian menu system can't represent what you want, then we should
> > either extend it so that it does, or get rid of it. It makes no sense
> > to support two sets of menu entries throughout the distribution.
>
> I agree. I would li
Hi,
Brian May wrote:
> My first attempt to upload dar here failed, due to timeout error.
>
> Now I can't upload at all, because the incomplete file still
> exists and I don't have permission to delete or replace it.
>
> ncftp /pub/UploadQueue > del libdar1_2.0.1-1_i386.deb
> delete libdar1_2.0.1
Em Sex, 2003-12-05 Ãs 11:32, Felipe Almeida Lessa escreveu:
> Now I'm using GNOME, but some time ago I have used XFce, Window Maker and
> others. IMHO, we could have a script that converted new .desktop to old-style
> Debian Menu while the WM don't understand .desktop. Or even better, we could
> ma
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On 2003-12-05 17:13, Ben Armstrong wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 09:23:52AM -0600, cobaco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 2003-12-05 11:06, Andreas Tille wrote:
> > >Debian-Edu *is* a CDD because
> > > it is completely inside Debian and
> >
> > h
My first attempt to upload dar here failed, due to timeout error.
Now I can't upload at all, because the incomplete file still
exists and I don't have permission to delete or replace it.
ncftp /pub/UploadQueue > del libdar1_2.0.1-1_i386.deb
delete libdar1_2.0.1-1_i386.deb: server said: Permission
"Bernhard R. Link" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> * Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [031205 16:11]:
> > With replaced files being kept you can recalculate correct md5sum
> > lists for A and B at any time in any combination of installed
> > packages. But even if it fails due to some bug you
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On 2003-12-05 16:48, Andreas Tille wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, cobaco wrote:
> > hm, as far as I know Debian-edu is nothing more then a couple of
> > task-packages at this point (and some education packages that got added
> > to the archive)
>
> I do
Henning Makholm wrote:
> Yes, so people got wiser along the way. Isn't that supposed to be what
> happens in these discussions?
I'm still seeing the same old same old in eg, Message-ID:
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Seems that gcc 3.3 and kernel 2.4.18 (with grsec patch) dont like
eachother.
I got alot of complains about 2 files in the asm-i386/ and some other,
when compiling..
the problem was that it seems as if gcc 3.3 needs to have assembler
lines(inline) ending with a ";\n" where as one seemed to been ab
Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> doesn't seem to be available in a documented way to people who have
> their own $HOME/.fvwm2rc)
FTR, you can do something like this:
Read /etc/X11/fvwm/menudefs.hook
AddToMenu Applications "Applications" Title
+ "&Deb
John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> For various reasons [1], I am interested in building Debian from source
> -- and continuing to do so for upgrades and newly-installed packages.
>
> What I'm after is basically something where I can say:
>
> apt-foo install kde
Close enough
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