Re: stack protection

2003-08-23 Thread Russell Coker
On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 07:02, Milan P. Stanic wrote: > On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 09:39:53AM +0200, Xavier Roche wrote: > > Note that some options are sometimes incompatible with some packages: > > restrictions on kmem ('Deny writing to /dev/kmem, /dev/mem, and > > /dev/port') prevent lm_sensors from wor

Re: Thank you!

2003-08-23 Thread gtaylor+bounceybouncey
You've sent me a message about which my email software isn't quite clear and which my language analysis program thinks looks like junk mail. Odds are that one of several things is the case: - You have indeed sent me junk mail, or - You have sent me a formal-sounding form letter, or - You hav

[GWAVA:1dr1x11d] Subject filter message notification

2003-08-23 Thread GWAVA
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Re: /etc/mailname same as /etc/hostname

2003-08-23 Thread Dan Jacobson
> "A" == Andreas Metzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> mailed me: A> On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 11:06:12AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: >> If /etc/mailname is the same as /etc/hostname, can I remove >> /etc/mailname perhaps one day? Both say jidanni.org . A> No, they serve different purposes. Quoting policy

Re: ruby1.6 and ruby-defaults 1.6 is uploaded (Re: [RFC] Debian ruby policy (Re: Fw: Re: Ruby 1.8 transition plan; debian-ruby))

2003-08-23 Thread Fumitoshi UKAI
At Sat, 23 Aug 2003 03:59:53 +0900, Fumitoshi UKAI wrote: > I uploaded ruby1.6 and ruby-defaults (1.6.8-6) now. > Packages built from ruby1.6 source package is simply renamed from > ruby 1.6.8-5. > > I plan ruby 1.8 transition: > > - Wait a while until ruby1.6 and ruby-defaults are installed,

Re: ftp.gnu.org cracked

2003-08-23 Thread Andreas Metzler
Scott James Remnant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [ Moved to debian-devel, I don't think this is relevant to private as > the GNU crack is well publicised ] > On Mon, 2003-08-18 at 14:58, Matt Zimmerman wrote: [...] >> If we're going to make a statement about it, we should have some facts to >> r

This is an alert from the blondes

2003-08-23 Thread airhead
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Re: /etc/shells management

2003-08-23 Thread Bastian Blank
On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 10:56:22PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > /etc/shells is no longer a config file, but is maintained by the > add-shell and remove-shell programs. So, if a package contains > something that the maintainer thinks ought to be a valid login shell, > it's postinst should, (on

Re: stack protection

2003-08-23 Thread Milan P. Stanic
On Sat, Aug 23, 2003 at 03:13:25PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 07:02, Milan P. Stanic wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 09:39:53AM +0200, Xavier Roche wrote: > > > Note that some options are sometimes incompatible with some packages: > > > restrictions on kmem ('Deny writing

Re: stack protection

2003-08-23 Thread Cameron Patrick
On Sat, Aug 23, 2003 at 11:36:04AM +0200, Milan P. Stanic wrote: | > Allowing the dhcp server to write to /dev/mem because it's UID 0 and Unix | > security sucks is a bug. | | The problem isn't with UID 0, but with bugs in software. No. The problem is an insecure design that forces the DHCP se

Correct Directory for networkboot clients

2003-08-23 Thread Daniel J. Priem
Where should i place the root directory for networkbooting clients ? i'm packing www.ltsp.org I don't know where to place the / Im thinking about /usr/ltsp/ or /usr/share/ltsp/

Re: FTBFS: architecture all packages

2003-08-23 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 10:57:53PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > ... > > > Have you ever built kde-i18n? When I last NMUed it it took something > > > like nine hours for my laptop to build it, and my lapto

Re: stack protection

2003-08-23 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 10:05:13PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > Depending on the size of udev it might be on the initrd or not. > > If its not then you need a lot of /dev entries to mount the real root > > device and get udev started or a extra scr

Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

2003-08-23 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 04:43:03PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > > > But do not attempt to subvert [the Social Contract and DFSG] by > > > attempting to persuade people that clause 1 of the Social Contract > > > says things it obviously does not. > > > > If you take Clause 1 of the Social Contract

What does that (from wanna-build stats) mean?

2003-08-23 Thread Joerg Wendland
Hi, when looking at [0] I see the following about my python-bz2: > python/python-bz2_1.1-6: Failed by buildd-caballero [optional:out-of-date] > Reasons for failing: > [Category: none] > bug #181674, missing build dep on bzip2 > Previous state was Building until 2003 Aug 13 11:47:54 Do

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-23 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Joe Drew | On Fri, 2003-08-22 at 01:42, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: | > * Teófilo Ruiz Suárez | > | > | What about Apache? Should we change the apache2 package to apache? | > | > No. (Wearing apache & apache2 maintainer hat.) | | What are the criteria for the apache package to become Apache 2?

Re: Correct Directory for networkboot clients

2003-08-23 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
"Daniel J. Priem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Where should i place the root directory for networkbooting clients ? > i'm packing www.ltsp.org I don't know where to place the / > Im thinking about /usr/ltsp/ or /usr/share/ltsp/ /usr/share/ltsp// is probably better. Otherwise you can#t boot diffe

Re: /etc/shells management

2003-08-23 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* | I just uploaded a version of shadow that provides scripts for the | maintenance of /etc/shells. I decided very quickly when I became the | shadow maintainer that I didn't want to (and probably wasn't qualified to | be) an arbiter of acceptable shells. Why wasn't this sent to debian-devel-an

Re: Correct Directory for networkboot clients

2003-08-23 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Sat, Aug 23, 2003 at 01:30:55PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > /usr/share/ltsp// is probably better. Otherwise you can#t boot > different archs from the same server. Shouldn't that be /var/lib/ltsp// instead? I'm assuming the root filesystem is writable. Ben -- ,-. nSLUGhttp://www

Re: Correct Directory for networkboot clients

2003-08-23 Thread Daniel J. Priem
Am Sam, 2003-08-23 um 14.30 schrieb Ben Armstrong: > On Sat, Aug 23, 2003 at 01:30:55PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > /usr/share/ltsp// is probably better. Otherwise you can#t boot > > different archs from the same server. > > Shouldn't that be /var/lib/ltsp// instead? I'm assuming the r

Re: Correct Directory for networkboot clients

2003-08-23 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Sat, Aug 23, 2003 at 02:38:32PM +0200, Daniel J. Priem wrote: > The rootfilesystem is writable but will be normaly not changed. Only on > Startup the configfiles for the client will be created / linked Still, conceptually, a root filesystem is "state" information for the netbootable client. E

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-23 Thread David Weinehall
On Sat, Aug 23, 2003 at 01:26:20PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > * Joe Drew > > | On Fri, 2003-08-22 at 01:42, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > | > * Teófilo Ruiz Suárez > | > > | > | What about Apache? Should we change the apache2 package to apache? > | > > | > No. (Wearing apache & apache2 mainta

Re: stack protection

2003-08-23 Thread Andreas Barth
* Milan P. Stanic ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030823 11:50]: > On Sat, Aug 23, 2003 at 03:13:25PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > > Allowing the system administrator to write to /dev/mem as part of debugging > > the kernel is a feature. > UID 0 must have rights to do everything. root can "format" filesyst

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-23 Thread Roland Mas
Tollef Fog Heen (2003-08-23 13:26:20 +0200) : > * Joe Drew [...] > | What are the criteria for the apache package to become Apache 2? > > Seamless upgrade without loss of functionality (that includes > modules), > > or > > making pigs fly. 1. All you need for that is thrust (see Ginger, Mac a

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-23 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Roland Mas | Tollef Fog Heen (2003-08-23 13:26:20 +0200) : [...] | > making pigs fly. | | 1. All you need for that is thrust (see Ginger, Mac and Rocky); | 2. Debian prides itself on its web of thrust; | 3. therefore the web servers in Debian do provide enough thrust. | | ...or am I missing

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-23 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sat, Aug 23, 2003 at 03:13:40PM +0200, Roland Mas wrote: > > making pigs fly. > > 1. All you need for that is thrust (see Ginger, Mac and Rocky); > 2. Debian prides itself on its web of thrust; > 3. therefore the web servers in Debian do provide enough thrust. > > ...or am I missing something?

Re: stack protection

2003-08-23 Thread Russell Coker
On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 19:36, Milan P. Stanic wrote: > > Allowing the system administrator to write to /dev/mem as part of > > debugging the kernel is a feature. > > UID 0 must have rights to do everything. root can "format" filesystem, > by mistake or by intention. UID does not have to be the only m

Re: FTBFS: architecture all packages

2003-08-23 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Sat, Aug 23, 2003 at 12:55:06PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > So your bandwidth is not key issue here. > > You know what online time costs for modem users? :) Yes, I moved from US to EU. It may not be as bad as Japan though :) If you have few

Re: Accepted fltk 1.0.11-11.1 (i386 source all)

2003-08-23 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Congratulations, you've just broken binary compatibility by (implicitly) rebuilding with G++ 3.3. I'm preparing a new NMU that switches back to G++ 2.95 (except on IA64, which needs 2.95, and HPPA, which needs 3.0). -- Aaron M. Ucko, KB1CJC (amu at alum.mit.edu, ucko at debian.org) Finger [EMAIL

Re: /etc/shells management

2003-08-23 Thread Isaac To
> "Martin" == Martin Godisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Martin> What's the preferred way to do this check? Consider, some shell Martin> is installed with its appropriate entry in /etc/shells. Now, we Martin> remove it: the entry will be deleted from /etc/shells, which Martin>

Re: Accepted fltk 1.0.11-11.1 (i386 source all)

2003-08-23 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sat, Aug 23, 2003 at 11:35:35AM -0400, Aaron M. Ucko wrote: > Congratulations, you've just broken binary compatibility by > (implicitly) rebuilding with G++ 3.3. I'm preparing a new NMU that > switches back to G++ 2.95 (except on IA64, which needs 2.95, and HPPA, > which needs 3.0). So what yo

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Re: Correct Directory for networkboot clients

2003-08-23 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Aug 23, 2003 at 09:46:55AM -0300, Ben Armstrong wrote: > On Sat, Aug 23, 2003 at 02:38:32PM +0200, Daniel J. Priem wrote: > > The rootfilesystem is writable but will be normaly not changed. Only on > > Startup the configfiles for the client will be created / linked > Still, conceptually, a

Re: Accepted fltk 1.0.11-11.1 (i386 source all)

2003-08-23 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > So what you were saying is, the package could not be built from source > correctly anyway, and he only fixed one of the two bugs? Right. (Emphasis on "correctly" -- the build did nominally succeed.) > That's an independant bug; why was it not filed

Patch needs Sponsor - List of easily NMUed RC bugs

2003-08-23 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Hi, I went through the RC bug list and collected Bugs with trivial patches and sorted them a bit. They realy don't need much work so if you have a minute pick one. If you want to NMU any of them check the then currently claimed bugs (url under claimed bugs). So here we go: g++-3.3 fixes: ---

Re: Correct Directory for networkboot clients

2003-08-23 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, Aug 23, 2003 at 09:46:55AM -0300, Ben Armstrong wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 23, 2003 at 02:38:32PM +0200, Daniel J. Priem wrote: > > > The rootfilesystem is writable but will be normaly not changed. Only on > > > Startup the configfiles for the clien

Re: Wicked screensaver

2003-08-23 Thread MailWatch Help Desk
--[This is an automatically generated email notification.]-- M A I L W A T C H A L E R T ! Violated Poli

imformation leakage in debian binaries

2003-08-23 Thread Joey Hess
It's interesting to examine what information about maintainers' build environments slips into binary packages, and consider the possible consequences and what, if anything, we can do about it. Here's an annotated and edited version of the output of the command strings -f /usr/bin/* /usr/sbin/* /bi

Re: Correct Directory for networkboot clients

2003-08-23 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Goswin von Brederlow] > Then it must be read-only. To the client and the server. No changing > of links or hostame or anything in there. LTSP keep all the client specific files in RAM file system. The NFS-mounted root is not written to by the client.

dpkg (without any --force) allows to break dependences

2003-08-23 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
How to reproduse: create test1_1.deb with package 'test1', version '1' creaet test1_2.deb with package 'test1', version '2' create test2.deb with package 'test2' that depends on test1 (>= 2) dpkg -i test1_2.deb dpkg -i test2.deb dpkg -i test1_1.deb The last commands completes without errors, and

Re: Translations sleeping in the BTS (was: Re: non-DD contributors and the debian keyring)

2003-08-23 Thread Stephen Frost
* Steve Langasek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Er. You're going to hold NMUers responsible for the general crappy > state of a package before they got to it? Are you also going to concede > to them the authority to request the package's removal from the archive > without the maintainer's consent,

Re: dpkg (without any --force) allows to break dependences

2003-08-23 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Aug 23, 2003 at 10:49:46PM +0400, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: > How to reproduse: > > create test1_1.deb with package 'test1', version '1' > creaet test1_2.deb with package 'test1', version '2' > create test2.deb with package 'test2' that depends on test1 (>= 2) > > dpkg -i test1_2.deb >

ViewCVS perpetually busted with Subversion repositories

2003-08-23 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sat, Aug 23, 2003 at 10:08:12AM +0200, Jérôme Marant wrote: > You may find some clues about how to fix viewcvs on the XFS SVN server there: > http://mailman.lyra.org/pipermail/viewcvs-dev/2003-July/001079.html > > It looks like it has been fixed on svn.debian.org. Thank you, but I'm afraid I d

Update: Patch needs Sponsor - List of easily NMUed RC bugs

2003-08-23 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, > > I went through the RC bug list and collected Bugs with trivial patches > and sorted them a bit. They realy don't need much work so if you have > a minute pick one. If you want to NMU any of them check the > then currently claimed bugs (ur

Bug#206931: ITP: libw3c-logvalidator-perl -- Web server log analysis tool to validate the N most popular documents

2003-08-23 Thread Pierre THIERRY
Package: wnpp Version: N/A; reported 2003-08-24 Severity: wishlist * Package name: libw3c-logvalidator-perl Version : 0.2 Upstream Author : Olivier Thereaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.w3.org/QA/Tools/LogValidator/ * License : W3C Software license (BS

Re: ViewCVS perpetually busted with Subversion repositories

2003-08-23 Thread Joshua Kwan
On Sat, Aug 23, 2003 at 04:53:28PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > * Debian's ViewCVS package should be hijacked, or the maintainer > should get more serious about dealing with the problems his > packaging of a CVS snapshot causes; IIRC, Takuo just got back from a summ

ITA freedict

2003-08-23 Thread Bob Hilliard
I sent the following message with the "X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org" header, but apparently [EMAIL PROTECTED] doesn't recognize that header, so I am resending it. -- tags 206113 +ITA thanks I intend to adopt freedict, which was recently orphaned. dict-freedict consi

Re: stack protection

2003-08-23 Thread Milan P. Stanic
On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 01:19:38AM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 19:36, Milan P. Stanic wrote: > > > Allowing the system administrator to write to /dev/mem as part of > > > debugging the kernel is a feature. > > > > UID 0 must have rights to do everything. root can "format" file

Re: ITA freedict

2003-08-23 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Aug 23, 2003 at 06:22:53PM -0400, Bob Hilliard wrote: > I intend to adopt freedict, which was recently orphaned. > dict-freedict consists of 42 utf-8 encoded bi-lingual > dictionaries. In the past dict-freedict has included pre-formatted > dictionaries downloaded from www.freed

Re: ITA freedict

2003-08-23 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Bob Hilliard] > This presents a problem for the dict-freedict package, in that a > xx_YY.utf-8 locale must be available on the build machine. AFAIK > there is no way to guarantee that a specific locale is available on > the buildds. It would be possible for debian/rules to generate a > xx_YY.utf

Re: ITA freedict

2003-08-23 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Aug 23, 2003 at 05:35:41PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Sat, Aug 23, 2003 at 06:22:53PM -0400, Bob Hilliard wrote: > > The simplest approach would be to format the dictionaries on my > > machine, and include them in the source package. This would be > > similar to the previous di

maintaining upstream snapshot package (was: Bits from the RM)

2003-08-23 Thread Tatsuya Kinoshita
On August 19, 2003 at 4:49PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > In order to ease some of the pressure on unstable, we're encouraging > greater usage of experimental. The plan here is that you should upload the > latest, release-quality packages to unstable; and the latest development > packages to exp

Re: Bug#205927: ITP: eggdrop -- Advanced IRC Robot

2003-08-23 Thread Pierre THIERRY
> As I may take some time to finish the package, I thought of avoiding > duplicated work. You could just tetitle the bug to an ITA, to avoid confusion. Quickly, le Moine Fou -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] OpenPGP 0xD9D50D8A pgpQ1PcwXARXS.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-23 Thread Brian May
On Sat, Aug 23, 2003 at 03:39:14PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > yes, the pigs. I think we already have some pigs in the Debian archive... -- Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: How to locate package uploader?

2003-08-23 Thread Pierre THIERRY
> Gaetan RYCKEBOER [...] doesn't appear to be listed in the list of NM > applicants. http://nm.debian.org/nmstatus.php?email=gryckeboer%40virtual-net.fr Quickly, le Moine Fou -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] OpenPGP 0xD9D50D8A pgphGvK4vbu4R.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: ITA freedict

2003-08-23 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 12:41:24AM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > [Bob Hilliard] > > This presents a problem for the dict-freedict package, in that a > > xx_YY.utf-8 locale must be available on the build machine. AFAIK > > there is no way to guarantee that a specific locale is available on >

packages mucking in /usr/local/?

2003-08-23 Thread Dan Jacobson
Gentlemen, do $ find /usr/local -mtime -222 /usr/local/lib/libxbase-2.0.so.0 /usr/local/lib/libxbase.so /usr/local/lib/python2.2/site-packages /usr/local/lib/python2.3/site-packages /usr/local/lib/texmf/ls-R /usr/local/share/emacs/21.3 /usr/local/share/emacs/21.3/site-lisp /usr/local/share/octave/s

away from my mail

2003-08-23 Thread alfonso
I am on holidays and I will not be reading my mail until 31st of August. Your mail concerning "Re: Wicked screensaver" will be read once I am back. Regards, Alfonso P.

Re: packages mucking in /usr/local/?

2003-08-23 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 05:35:41AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: > Gentlemen, do > $ find /usr/local -mtime -222 > /usr/local/lib/libxbase-2.0.so.0 > /usr/local/lib/libxbase.so If those came from a package, they're bugs. > /usr/local/lib/python2.2/site-packages > /usr/local/lib/python2.3/site-packag

configure --host= breaks libtool ?

2003-08-23 Thread Glenn McGrath
Im having problems compiling libextractor on at least ia64 and m68k On those arch's dpkg-buildpackage fails with libtool: compile: unable to infer tagged configuration libtool: compile: specify a tag with `--tag' In debian rules i am specifying host and build, so on ia64 configure is called with

Re: stack protection

2003-08-23 Thread Russell Coker
On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 08:22, Milan P. Stanic wrote: > > When you login to do administrative work by default you will have the > > context root:sysadm_r:sysadm_t as the Identity:Role:Domain. This will > > deny you access to block devices, when you run mount or mkfs they run in > > different domains w

Re: maintaining upstream snapshot package (was: Bits from the RM)

2003-08-23 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 07:45:26AM +0900, Tatsuya Kinoshita wrote: > > In order to ease some of the pressure on unstable, we're encouraging > > greater usage of experimental. [...] > I'm a maintainer of Debian wl/wl-beta packages (Wanderlust: > mail/news reader for Emacsen). > > Debian wl package