Re: Do not touch l10n files

2003-05-21 Thread Josef Spillner
On Tuesday 20 May 2003 15:22, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > (Of course, this still doesn't answer the question of whether anyone > would ever want or use locale support to be enabled during the initial > boot sequence, such that the boot messages come up in the local > language) You don't have a dad

Bug#194123: ITP: sigcperl -- Helper library for the libsigc++ Perl bindings

2003-05-21 Thread Michael Koch
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-05-21 Severity: wishlist * Package name: sigcperl Version : 0.2.0 Upstream Author : Ron Steinke * URL : http://sigcperl.sourceforge.net/ * License : LGPL Description : Helper library for the libsigc++ Perl

Re: Symlinking /usr/share/doc/ is not allowed

2003-05-21 Thread Andreas Barth
* Brian May ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030521 02:35]: > On Tue, May 20, 2003 at 08:00:21PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > > The policy vetoe to symlinking intends (in my interpretation) two > > goals. One is to ensure that the licences don't "change" unintendidly. > > This could e.g. happen if there is a

Re: Problems linking to libdb3++

2003-05-21 Thread Ulrich Eckhardt
On Tuesday 20 May 2003 14:22, Andreas Tille wrote: [snipped warning] > I wanted to show this here to ask for opinions whether this is a bug in the > libdb3++-dev header files. I regard it not to be related to the problem > but I think we should fix this anyway. Should I file a wishlist bug report

Bug#194125: ITP: sigc -- Perl bindings to the libsigc++ signal library

2003-05-21 Thread Michael Koch
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-05-21 Severity: wishlist * Package name: sigc Version : 0.07 Upstream Author : Ron Steinke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://sigcperl.sourceforge.net/ * License : LGPL Description : Perl bindings to the li

Re: Constitutional amendment: Condorcet/Clone Proof SSD vote tallying

2003-05-21 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, May 20, 2003 at 05:58:10PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Scenario B: > > Consider the case where the quorum is 45, and there have been > 44 votes -- 23 for, 21 against. (Only one option on the ballot). I am > opposed to the option. > > At this point; under my version; I

Re: Constitutional amendment: Condorcet/Clone Proof SSD vote tallying

2003-05-21 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Sven Luther wrote: > But you cannot know what the situation is, unless you have insider > knowledge A situation where a vote would be successful, but fail for lack of participation, often requires no insider knowledge at all to be recognizeable as such. In that situation, the opponents can

Re: Constitutional amendment: Condorcet/Clone Proof SSD vote tallying

2003-05-21 Thread Mark Brown
On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 10:12:52AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > But you cannot know what the situation is, unless you have insider > knowledge, the votes are secrets, and the results published only after > the election is closed. This doesn't change the fact that there is a chance that by voting

Re: Constitutional amendment: Condorcet/Clone Proof SSD vote tallying

2003-05-21 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 11:09:43AM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: Content-Description: signed data > Hi, > > Sven Luther wrote: > > But you cannot know what the situation is, unless you have insider > > knowledge > > A situation where a vote would be successful, but fail for lack of > participat

Re: Constitutional amendment: Condorcet/Clone Proof SSD vote tallying

2003-05-21 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Sven Luther wrote: > If there is such a lack of participation that even our low quorum > requirement is not meet, then is this a bad thing ? Yes -- because it encourages people not to vote in that situation. -- Matthias Urlichs | {M:U} IT Design @ m-u-it.de | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Discla

Re: Constitutional amendment: Condorcet/Clone Proof SSD vote tallying

2003-05-21 Thread Nick Phillips
On Tue, May 20, 2003 at 07:27:21PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: > Here, the vote(s) for B caused A to win. > > Other examples are possible (for example: 19 ABD, 1 BDA). > > > > To make your proposal work right, we'd need a separate quorum > > > determination phase which is independent of the voting

Re: Debian Wiki

2003-05-21 Thread Simon Huggins
Hiya Debian, On Tue, May 20, 2003 at 03:24:54PM -0500, michael d. ivey wrote: > I'm pleased to announce that Debian Wiki (http://wiki.debian.net) is > back online, and should stay that way. [..] Am I missing something or is there no diff/version control functionality? Does this mean there is no v

avifile ready for transfer to testing?

2003-05-21 Thread Andreas Metzler
Hello, Afaict after qt3 has entered testing avifile could go there finally too: | trying: avifile | skipped: avifile (0 <- 241) | got: 386+0: a-88:a-91:h-79:i-128 | * i386: avifile-xvid-plugin which http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=avifile translates to: | Checking avifile |

Re: Constitutional amendment: Condorcet/Clone Proof SSD vote tallying

2003-05-21 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Nick Phillips wrote: > If a winning option would be discarded due to quorum requirements, then > I think the vote should probably be considered void. That seems to be the best choice. -- Matthias Urlichs | {M:U} IT Design @ m-u-it.de | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Disclaimer: The quote was sele

Bug#194155: ITP: ehnt -- Extreme Happy Netflow Tool - Obtains useful information out of netflow data

2003-05-21 Thread Craig small
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-05-21 Severity: wishlist * Package name: ehnt Version : x.y.z Upstream Author : Name <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.some.org/ * License : (GPL, LGPL, BSD, MIT/X, etc.) Description : Extreme Happy Ne

ITO packages: ntop, apt-show-source

2003-05-21 Thread Dennis Schoen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi everybody, as I've no longer time to properly maintain my packages I'm searching for a new maintainer for: Package: ntop Description: display network usage in top-like format ntop is a Network Top program. It displays a summary of network usage

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-21 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Andreas Schuldei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What do we get from that sponsor? Conference rooms, network, accomodation, > food, flights and tshirts? His response: } We would provide the conference facilities and try to get accomodations with } some LUG members. There may be more, but I need to

Re: Bug#194155: ITP: ehnt -- Extreme Happy Netflow Tool - Obtains useful information out of netflow data

2003-05-21 Thread Paul Slootman
On Wed 21 May 2003, Craig small wrote: > > * Package name: ehnt > Version : x.y.z > Upstream Author : Name <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > * URL : http://www.some.org/ > * License : (GPL, LGPL, BSD, MIT/X, etc.) > Description : Extreme Happy Netflow Tool - Obtains u

Re: ITO packages: ntop, apt-show-source

2003-05-21 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Wed, 21 May 2003, Dennis Schoen wrote: > Package: apt-show-source > Description: Shows source-package information > This program parses the APT lists for source packages and the > dpkg status file and then lists every package with a different > version number than the one installed. > It's

Re: Firebird 0.6

2003-05-21 Thread Grzegorz B. Prokopski
W liście z wto, 20-05-2003, godz. 05:52, Eric Dorland pisze: > Hi Everyone, > > From the amount of mail I've gotten I guess people will be > interested. I've uploaded mozilla-firebird_0.6-1 to my personal apt > repository at http://people.debian.org/~eric/debian/. Just add: To avoid confustion a

Re: ITO packages: ntop, apt-show-source

2003-05-21 Thread Dennis Schoen
Sorry for replying to my own message. :) On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 01:42:32PM +0200, Dennis Schoen wrote: > Package: apt-show-source > Description: Shows source-package information > This program parses the APT lists for source packages and the > dpkg status file and then lists every package with

Re: Debian Wiki

2003-05-21 Thread michael d. ivey
On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 11:28:32AM +0100, Simon Huggins wrote: > Hiya Debian, Hiya! =) > Am I missing something or is there no diff/version control > functionality? Does this mean there is no version control of pages or > just that it's hidden from users? Stock Kwiki 0.13 doesn't have anything.

Re: ITO packages: ntop, apt-show-source

2003-05-21 Thread Frederic Peters
> Package: ntop > Description: display network usage in top-like format > ntop is a Network Top program. It displays a summary of network > usage by machines on your network in a format reminiscent of the > unix top utility. > . > It can also be run in web mode, which allows the display to be

Re: Announcing Debian Package Tags

2003-05-21 Thread Enrico Zini
On Thu, May 08, 2003 at 09:22:03AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > Uhm ... what about shipping a separate library libdebtags? It seems to > me a good way to share the C code you mention in a previous mail and > also a good way to avoid future incompatibility if you decide to change > the format

Re: ITO packages: ntop, apt-show-source

2003-05-21 Thread Ola Lundqvist
Hello On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 01:42:32PM +0200, Dennis Schoen wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi everybody, > > as I've no longer time to properly maintain my packages I'm > searching for a new maintainer for: > > Package: ntop > Description: display network usage i

Re: Constitutional amendment: Condorcet/Clone Proof SSD vote tallying

2003-05-21 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 09:57:13PM +1200, Nick Phillips wrote: > On Tue, May 20, 2003 at 07:27:21PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: > > Here, the vote(s) for B caused A to win. > > Other examples are possible (for example: 19 ABD, 1 BDA). > > > > To make your proposal work right, we'd need a separate

Re: Constitutional amendment: Condorcet/Clone Proof SSD vote tallying

2003-05-21 Thread Raul Miller
> On Tue, May 20, 2003 at 05:58:10PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > At this point; under my version; I can express my opinions > > with no fear of harming my candidate. Under your amendment; if I do > > not vote; the vote is nullified. However, if I vote against the > > option -- the opt

Re: Constitutional amendment: Condorcet/Clone Proof SSD vote tallying

2003-05-21 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 21 May 2003 21:57:13 +1200, Nick Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Tue, May 20, 2003 at 07:27:21PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: >> Here, the vote(s) for B caused A to win. >> >> Other examples are possible (for example: 19 ABD, 1 BDA). >> >> > > To make your proposal work right, we'd n

Re: Constitutional amendment: Condorcet/Clone Proof SSD vote tallying

2003-05-21 Thread Raul Miller
On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 09:57:13PM +1200, Nick Phillips wrote: > I don't believe that it's acceptable for an otherwise beaten option > to win due the the otherwise winning option being discarded due > to a quorum requirement, as John suggests might happen. Under the proposed system, we would do ex

Re: Do not touch l10n files (was Re: DDTP issue)

2003-05-21 Thread Fabio Massimo Di Nitto
On Tue, 20 May 2003, Denis Barbier wrote: > > i believe that it looks nicer keeping the layout coherent across > > translation. > > But you do not explain why! because it looks nicer and it is coherent with the original one. This was always what i told along the thread. I tought it was clear ;)

Re: Do not touch l10n files (was Re: DDTP issue)

2003-05-21 Thread Fabio Massimo Di Nitto
On Tue, 20 May 2003, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: > > We asked why the removal of the number «3» from the word «PHP3» caused > > the format of the whole description to the changed. We asked _why_, > > we did not say «do not do this». First, we wanted to know why. Then, > > we might want to ask

Re: [RFC] Chapter for the debian reference about l10n

2003-05-21 Thread Fabio Massimo Di Nitto
On Mon, 19 May 2003, Martin Quinson wrote: > Internationalizing, translating and being internationalized and translated [SNIP] I think that having atleast some references on how to handle translations will avoid other flamewars and misunderstandigs. But atleast the flamewar was not completly use

Bug#194190: ITP: dpkg-rebuild -- Rebuild dpkg's status file

2003-05-21 Thread Julien Danjou
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-05-21 Severity: wishlist * Package name: dpkg-rebuild Version : Will be 0.1 Upstream Author : Patrick Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.cs.duke.edu/~reynolds/projects/dpkg-rebuild * License : GPL

Re: ITO packages: ntop, apt-show-source

2003-05-21 Thread Frederic Peters
> > Package: ntop > > I'd like to take this one. I have been using it for a long time and > is quite experienced with the code. -> Dennis: I think Ola is better than me for this package (since I have not much experience with ntop code), forget my offer. Frederic

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-21 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* (Aaron M. Ucko) | Two of the people I originally contacted said this too, but always in | the third person. I ask again, who on this list actually still feels | this way? As other people have said: I'm not going, but I don't object to a conference in the US per se. -- Tollef Fog Heen

Re: Constitutional amendment: Condorcet/Clone Proof SSD vote tallying

2003-05-21 Thread Guido Trotter
On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 10:05:47AM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: Hi, > > If the "winning" option is discarded due to quorum requirements, then > given that all non-default options have the *same* quorum requirement, > this is exactly what would happen. > I think this is not inherently true. Sinc

Re: Debian Wiki

2003-05-21 Thread Alexandre Dulaunoy
On Wed, 21 May 2003, michael d. ivey wrote: > > It'll be in, either by upstream or by me, within a few weeks. I want to > see what he comes up with, and then I'll hack something for us. Why not starting with phpwiki ? We are using it on various high-volume site, this is quite stab

Re: Debian Wiki

2003-05-21 Thread michael d. ivey
On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 07:07:27PM +0200, Alexandre Dulaunoy wrote: > Why not starting with phpwiki ? We are using it on various > high-volume site, this is quite stable and got a lot features and > don't eat the memory like... (you know ;-) I'd really like to not have the "Why no

Re: Constitutional amendment: Condorcet/Clone Proof SSD vote tallying

2003-05-21 Thread Buddha Buck
Raul Miller wrote: On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 09:57:13PM +1200, Nick Phillips wrote: I don't believe that it's acceptable for an otherwise beaten option to win due the the otherwise winning option being discarded due to a quorum requirement, as John suggests might happen. Under the proposed sy

Re: Debian Wiki

2003-05-21 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 09:34:37AM -0500, michael d. ivey wrote: > Stock Kwiki 0.13 doesn't have anything. Our local version has a basic > RCS checkin dont want to argue here, but there are enough Wikis which do support that. PErsonally I use Tavi (mysql) which is only missing file uploads. Gree

Re: Bug#194190: ITP: dpkg-rebuild -- Rebuild dpkg's status file

2003-05-21 Thread Michael Banck
On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 06:33:51PM +0200, Julien Danjou wrote: > * Package name: dpkg-rebuild > Description : Rebuild dpkg's status file. > > Rebuild the Debian '/var/lib/dpkg/status' file from information in > '/var/lib/dpkg/available' and '/var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list'. This is > usef

Re: alioth.debian.org down

2003-05-21 Thread Roland Mas
Josip Rodin (2003-05-20 23:21:02 +0200) : > On Tue, May 20, 2003 at 08:06:17PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: [...] >> No because alioth has its own DNS delegation (in order to manage >> .alioth.debian.org). > > But why doesn't it have any slaves? That's a good question. The Sourceforge and Gforg

Re: Accepted ptkei 1.18.0-4 (all source)

2003-05-21 Thread Brian Nelson
reopen 192068 thanks John O'Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Format: 1.7 > Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 21:40:18 +0100 > Source: ptkei > Binary: ptkei > Architecture: source all > Version: 1.18.0-4 > Distribution: unstable > Urgency: low > Maintainer: John O'Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Changed

Re: Accepted directory-administrator 1.3.5-1 (i386 source)

2003-05-21 Thread Brian Nelson
Guido Trotter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Format: 1.7 > Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 17:31:23 +0200 > Source: directory-administrator > Binary: directory-administrator > Architecture: source i386 > Version: 1.3.5-1 > Distribution: unstable > Urgency: low > Maintainer: Guido Trotter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Firebird 0.6

2003-05-21 Thread Eric Dorland
* Grzegorz B. Prokopski ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > W li?cie z wto, 20-05-2003, godz. 05:52, Eric Dorland pisze: > > Hi Everyone, > > > > From the amount of mail I've gotten I guess people will be > > interested. I've uploaded mozilla-firebird_0.6-1 to my personal apt > > repository at http://pe

Re: Accepted ptkei 1.18.0-4 (all source)

2003-05-21 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 12:24:42PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote: > John O'Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Changes: > > ptkei (1.18.0-4) unstable; urgency=low > > . > >* Fixed Bug#192068 > > ...another fine example of changelog abuse. ... although not what actually closed the bug; he

Re: Firebird 0.6

2003-05-21 Thread Eric Dorland
* Brian Nelson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Eric Dorland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > From the amount of mail I've gotten I guess people will be > > interested. I've uploaded mozilla-firebird_0.6-1 to my personal apt > > repository at http://people.debian.org/~eric/debian

Re: ITO packages: ntop, apt-show-source

2003-05-21 Thread Dennis Schoen
Hi, On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 05:03:47PM +0200, Ola Lundqvist wrote: > On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 01:42:32PM +0200, Dennis Schoen wrote: > > Package: ntop > > Description: display network usage in top-like format > > ntop is a Network Top program. It displays a summary of network > > usage by machine

Re: Accepted directory-administrator 1.3.5-1 (i386 source)

2003-05-21 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 12:31:14PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote: > >* New Upstream Version (closes: #176227, #188308, #90276) > > Changelog abuse. This is only a valid entry if all 3 of these bugs were > requests for a new version, which they were not. to me it reads: "fixed by the new version"

Re: Accepted directory-administrator 1.3.5-1 (i386 source)

2003-05-21 Thread Guido Trotter
On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 12:31:14PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote: > > directory-administrator (1.3.5-1) unstable; urgency=low > > . > >* New Upstream Version (closes: #176227, #188308, #90276) > > Changelog abuse. This is only a valid entry if all 3 of these bugs were > requests for a new versi

Re: Accepted directory-administrator 1.3.5-1 (i386 source)

2003-05-21 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 11:47:52PM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 12:31:14PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote: > > >* New Upstream Version (closes: #176227, #188308, #90276) > > > > Changelog abuse. This is only a valid entry if all 3 of these bugs were > > requests for a ne

Re: Firebird 0.6

2003-05-21 Thread Eric Dorland
Could you be more specific? If there's a permission problem I'd like to fix it :) * Andreas Happe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Nikolai Prokoschenko wrote: > > I've installed a bunch of extensions while using root and now Mozilla > > Firebird hangs when starting it a

Re: Accepted directory-administrator 1.3.5-1 (i386 source)

2003-05-21 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 11:55:36PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > It's much more helpful to write this as: yes of course, but the question is where the line between helpfulness and usefulness is :) At least I think it is not a good idea to talk about "abuse" if maintainers save themself some work.

mozilla 1.3.1-1 segfaults

2003-05-21 Thread Jack Howarth
Are any arches other than debian ppc sid seeing the new mozilla 1.3.1-1 release segfault? This new version also causes galeon to segfault as well. Regressing back to 1.3-5 fixes both. Jack

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-21 Thread Simon Law
On Tue, May 20, 2003 at 01:25:47PM -0400, Aaron M. Ucko wrote: > Joe Drew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > While convenient for american developers, there are rather a number of > > non-american developers who will not set foot on American soil, due in > > part to the DMCA and (I imagine) the app

Re: Firebird 0.6

2003-05-21 Thread Nathan Poznick
Thus spake Eric Dorland: > Could you be more specific? If there's a permission problem I'd like > to fix it :) I've seen this happen when installing extensions, such as the tabbrowser extensions... the .jar file gets installed with 400 permissions, which can be Ok if you're installing it locally,