On Fri Nov 22, 2002 at 04:07:01PM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> and PowerPC. Bdale started on ia64 last night. I've played around
> with getting it up and running on BSD, but no luck so far, busybox
> seems to be fairly Linux-centric. It is not a high priority, but if
> somebody picks it up, i
Branden said:
>There's always[1] going to be some new non-free thing for which there
>isn't yet a free replacement. xpdf-japanese et al. didn't exist in 1997
So you admit that the original motivation for non-free is *still valid*!
>when we adopted the Social Contract, as far as I know. So I don
Steve Greenland said:
>On 20-Nov-02, 17:43 (CST), Mike Fedyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 04:34:20PM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote:
>> >
>> > And then when libc6 2.3.x dropped into testing, and broke xvncviewer, it
>> > would be broken in testing as well as unstable. Yes,
On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 01:25:23AM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote:
> There's a real complaint: confused users and developers think that 'non-free'
> is part of the Debian distribution. How to solve this without slaying
> non-free? Here are some ideas, in increasing degree of drasticness.
>
> *
On Thu, 21 Nov 2002 13:33:29 +
Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Let me just say as a desktop user of Gentoo. I can use gentoo's X server
> > and the opensouce nv driver here with kde and have a usable desktop. I
> > couldn't in debian, it was just too slow. Yes, it's anticdotal.
* Oliver Kurth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-11-22 23:54]:
> My status seems to be reset :-(. I had passed all checks, and was
> approved by my AM.
The status information should be correct now.
--
Martin Michlmayr
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
* Jesus Climent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-11-21 11:02]:
> Is there any backup? How is it going to be now? I am almost finishing
> the NM process and I would like to know the status of the infrastructure
> for continuing.
Please see
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2002/debian-devel-an
On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 12:14:23AM -0800, Thomas Zimmerman wrote:
On Thu, 21 Nov 2002 13:33:29 + Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Yes, this is the sort of anecdotal 'evidence' that is of no use
whatsoever. Most of the time it turns out to be a matter of local
[snip]
Is it really? I tw
In other news for Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 11:18:22AM +1100, Brian May has been
seen typing:
> The could remarkably slow the process down for slow batched based
> E-Mail systems.
> (it would appear to be a tradeoff of functionality/efficiency vs
> security).
Isn't that a fairly accurate summary of
On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 01:25:23AM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote:
> * Abandon non-free entirely, but have SPI sponsor a apt-gettable server
> (third-party.debian.org) for third-party developers to put .deb packages on.
I'd already raised this possibility before (moving non-free out of Debian
bu
On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 02:00:08AM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote:
> Clearly we need to test the libc6 in unstable to see if it breaks forward
> compatibility. Building packages in unstable against the "old" libc6 (while
> running them aganist the new one!) does just that. If we build everything
Arthur de Jong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> (I had to downgrade from 2.1.0-1 to 1.0.3-2.2)
>
> If you don't have them anymore, you can get them from:
> ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/b/bonobo-activation/
Unfortunately, version 1.0.3-2.2 is disappearing from mirrors,
leaving only 2.1.0-1 and
On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 08:36:43AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 02:00:08AM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote:
> > Clearly we need to test the libc6 in unstable to see if it breaks forward
> > compatibility. Building packages in unstable against the "old" libc6
> > (while
> >
* (Thomas Bushnell, BSG)
| 36GB disks? Why buy 36GB disks when you can buy big ones? See, the
| problem here is that things are in such frequent motion, that what
| seemed like a big disk once is now small. 36GB is a tiny disk.
When you are running an ftp server or similar, seek time is more
Package: wnpp
Version: unavailable; reported 2002-11-24
Severity: wishlist
* Package name: tsclient
Version : 0.56
Upstream Author : Erick Woods <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Kyle Herbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://www.gnomepro.com/tsclient/
* License
Hi Thomas,
you could also have refered to snapshot.debian.org and looked for a
snapshot prior to 11/14. It works perfectly...
Bruno.
On Sat, 2002-11-23 at 10:27, Thomas Hood wrote:
> Arthur de Jong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > (I had to downgrade from 2.1.0-1 to 1.0.3-2.2)
> >
> > If you don't
On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 04:27:47PM +0100, Thomas Hood wrote:
> Unfortunately, version 1.0.3-2.2 is disappearing from mirrors,
> leaving only 2.1.0-1 and 0.9.6-1. I was lucky to be able to
> get version 1.0.3-2.2 from a slow-to-update mirror.
You can always retrive old files from http://snapshot.de
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| Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| > EVMS support has been added.. I played with it a little, but it was
| > broken because it was compiled with readline support, while no
| > readline libraries were in the archive. I've just played around with
| > it a bit more, an
* Anthony Towns
| On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 03:56:21PM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
| > * Anthony Towns
| > | On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 08:54:29AM -0500, Anthony DeRobertis wrote:
| > | > Because I'd like to Debian be installable with much fewer questions,
| > | Do you realise what that means? It
Thomas Hood wrote:
> Arthur de Jong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > (I had to downgrade from 2.1.0-1 to 1.0.3-2.2)
> >
> > If you don't have them anymore, you can get them from:
> > ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/b/bonobo-activation/
>
> Unfortunately, version 1.0.3-2.2 is disappearing from
On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 02:00:08AM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote:
> Steve Greenland said:
> >On 20-Nov-02, 17:43 (CST), Mike Fedyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 04:34:20PM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote:
> >> >
> >> > And then when libc6 2.3.x dropped into testing, and bro
On Fri, 2002-11-22 at 10:01, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> This has nothing to do with boot-floppies. It is apt-setup, which is
> run from base-config.
Thank you for the clarification. I wasn't sure if all that was still
there with the new debian installer.
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Description: This is a digi
> 1. notice that oops, the cd burning script will do something evil if
>passed a certian type of iso.
> 2. send in a fixed script
> 3. run it
Have you considered adding sequencing to the protocol? That is, if each
of those mails above had a sequence number in them, the receiver would
not execu
On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 12:14:23AM -0800, Thomas Zimmerman wrote:
> > Yes, this is the sort of anecdotal 'evidence' that is of no use
> > whatsoever. Most of the time it turns out to be a matter of local
> > system configuration. IDE DMA is one of the bigger culprits here.
>
> Is it really? I twee
Daniel Jacobowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'm not saying this is the only way that can happen; VNC could just
> have been built first and never rebuilt against the new libc6. That
> happens a lot. But this way you can upload packages which are already
> unbuildable.
>
> That's bad, mmkay
On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 12:13:42PM -0500, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote:
I'm not saying this is the only way that can happen; VNC could just
have been built first and never rebuilt against the new libc6. That
happens a lot. But this way you can upload packages which are already
unbuildable.
That's bad,
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 10:03:40AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
Roberto Suarez Soto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
I may be wrong, but I assume you're talking IDE here. And, IMHO, IDE
disks are not the best thing for a medium/high traffic server.
A 120 GB ATA-100 IBM disk costs $162 at g
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 06:22:53PM -0600, Adam Heath wrote:
> In case it hasn't been mentioned, one could use sequence numbers, ala tcp.
You need to keep track (at both ends of the link) of the last
sequence number sent.
Or, if you allow emails to be sent from multiple hosts, you need
to keep tra
On Sun, Nov 24, 2002 at 10:31:46AM +1100, Brian May wrote:
> You need to keep track (at both ends of the link) of the last
> sequence number sent.
can we perhaps set up a mailinglist or discuss this on the mailinglist of
grunt, it realy gets offtopic.
Greetings
Bernd
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On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 05:25:28PM -0500, Michael Stone wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 12:13:42PM -0500, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote:
> >I'm not saying this is the only way that can happen; VNC could just
> >have been built first and never rebuilt against the new libc6. That
> >happens a lot. But t
On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 04:32:22PM -0800, Mike Fedyk wrote:
> Why not build against testing by default, and have something auto-build
> against unstable and report to the maintainers of the package that won't
> build and the libary it won't build against whenever there is an error?
Many problems,
Package: info
Version: 4.1-2
Severity: normal
Gentlemen, the top Info pages of different packages wildly differ:
e.g.
$ info m4
has a nice header "GNU m4"
but
$ info gawk
has a lower level header 'General introduction', while
$ info yorick
has a menu without a header, while
$ info emacs
says "the
At Thu, 21 Nov 2002 09:07:11 +1100,
Nick wrote:
> Sorry to trouble people, but I can't seem to work out why the libpng-dev
> package for debian testing is uninstallable for me. when I go `apt-get
> install libpng-dev` I get
>
> Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
> libpn
On Sun, Nov 24, 2002 at 06:18:15AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote:
> Gentlemen, the top Info pages of different packages wildly differ:
> e.g.
> $ info m4
> has a nice header "GNU m4"
> but
> $ info gawk
> has a lower level header 'General introduction', while
> $ info yorick
> has a menu without a head
Package: wnpp
Version: unavailable; reported 2002-11-24
Severity: wishlist
* Package name: chaksem
Version : 1.6a
Upstream Author : Manuel M. T. Chakravarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL :
http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~chak/presentation/presentation.html
* License :
On Sun, 17 Nov 2002, Branden Robinson wrote:
>On Sat, Nov 16, 2002 at 06:36:52PM -0500, Clint Adams wrote:
>> Because, at the time that "we" wrote it, non-free (in particular:
>> PGP, ssh, Netscape, IIRC) was a much more important part of Debian than
>> it is now. Those three sets of packages wen
> How did this "killing" happen? Certainly not by denying them space on
> Debian's servers. In fact, Mozilla "killed" Netscape because Netscape,
Poor "John Galt" is fooled by "Branden" into "thinking" that Netscape is
"dead".
On Fri, 22 Nov 2002, Stephen Zander wrote:
> > "Branden" == Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Branden> /me wanders off, laughing maniacally and regressing to
> Branden> childhood Saturday nights watching PBS...
>
> Did you call your dog K-9 and and build a phone booth out
G'day,
Sorry to raise this at the moment as i'm sure everyone is busy recovering
from recent events and even though this is probably not the appropriate forum
all my other efforts have fallen on deaf emails.
Anyway, I'm trying to find out why my NM application ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
is taking so
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