Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 02:17:10PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 11:55:35AM -0500, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> > > To rely on gracious behaviour from other organisms is a losing
> > > evolutionary
> > > strategy, and to atte
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 12:19:13PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
> Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 11:54:43PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> > > Humour does not have to be at the expense of other
> > > people.
> >
> > Where's the evidence? (Hein
This package:
http://packages.debian.org/unstable/editors/the.html
never shows up when you search for "the" in
http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages
I assume it's because the search engine ignores common words like "the"
:-) Also, because the BTS uses the search engine to link to
On Thu, 2002-11-21 at 15:15, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
> Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > i remember a year or so ago when i complained about this worthless
> > practice i said that it would end up consuming hundreds of megabytes
> > - i was told that was ridiculous, it would neve
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 12:15:12PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
> Branden, could we afford to buy a couple 110 GB disks to hold this
> increase?
I really don't like to wear my SPI Treasurer hat on this mailing list,
and with that hat on I don't like to offer opinions about how Debian
should
Hi,
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 07:38:05PM +, Colin Watson wrote:
> Works for my key. Did it formerly find key ids for people who aren't in
> the Debian keyring?
I have tested it with my own key. And yes it was find before.
Think it find your because it is in the debian keyring and _not_ only
one
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 03:32:33PM -0500, Benoit Peccatte wrote:
> 10% of the whole distribution : that's a lot
> Moreover bandwidth costs too.
multiple architectures can be placed on different servers. The overall
traffic will not increase and the overall disk space also wont.
But well, perhaps
Hi Thorsten,
Thorsten Sauter wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 07:38:05PM +, Colin Watson wrote:
> > Works for my key. Did it formerly find key ids for people who aren't in
> > the Debian keyring?
> I have tested it with my own key. And yes it was find before.
> Think it find your because it is
On Nov 21, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
> Now, if we were to have precompiled binaries for say ten different
> varieties of i386 (and I think that's enough to make anyone happy),
> the 6GB currently holding 386 packages would be 60, for a net increase
> of 54GB.
>
> We'd need perhaps three differen
Hi,
anyone can agree that this is a little bit more clearer?
Description: Display program shortcuts as icons on desktop
With idesk you can define shortcut's for several programs
and display these icons with a short description on the
desktop of any window manager.
.
It can use png images
Le jeu 21/11/2002 à 21:44, Bernd Eckenfels a écrit :
> But well, perhaps we can just stop supporting distribution and this will already help. Then a single dedicated server can
> host the "old system debian distribution" for 386/486 compatibility. PErhaps
> even with some space optimized binaries
Hello,
hmm. maybe we misunderstand us :)
> No, you defenitely are _not_ in the Debian keyring.
I'm *not* in the debian keyring, but before the century crash :), my gpg key
was find by qa because it was stored on one of the public servers.
Please see for this the original error message also:
"GP
On Thu, 2002-11-21 at 15:44, Bernd Eckenfels wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 03:32:33PM -0500, Benoit Peccatte wrote:
> > 10% of the whole distribution : that's a lot
> > Moreover bandwidth costs too.
>
> multiple architectures can be placed on different servers. The overall
> traffic will not i
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 01:36:07PM -0500, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 02:19:50AM -0700, Joel Baker wrote:
> > And/or, has katie advanced to the point where mere mortals can actually get
> > it installed and working without taking a 3D6 SAN loss?
> >
> > For all of it's limitati
On Wednesday 20 November 2002 20:51, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 11:07:13AM -0800, Michael Cardenas wrote:
> > To quote from the gentoo intro:
> >
> > "(glibc-2.2.5, gcc 3.2, XFS, ReiserFS, ext3, EVMS, LVM, ALSA,
> > pcmcia-cs support, ... KDE 3.0 and 3.1_beta and GNOME 2.0.2"
>
This one time, at band camp, Mark Howard wrote:
>I also vote for removing any other upstream bookmarks (e.g. rpm search,
>slackware searches). Feel free to disagree, with a convincing argument.
I use a Debian workstation, but admin a collection of Debian and Red Hat
machines -- remove the rpm sear
On Thu, 2002-11-21 at 15:58, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le jeu 21/11/2002 à 21:44, Bernd Eckenfels a écrit :
>
> > But well, perhaps we can just stop supporting > distribution and this will already help. Then a single dedicated server can
> > host the "old system debian distribution" for 386/486 c
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 11:51:34AM -0500, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 12:06:40AM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> > I don't believe that transfer will be CPU bound, but rather network and/or
> > internal bus bandwidth limited.
>
> It is not unusual for large scp jobs to be CPU bo
On Fri, 2002-11-22 at 06:36, Alexander Neumann wrote:
> John Goerzen wrote:
> > GRUNT is a tool to let you execute commands remotely, offline.
> > It will also let you copy files to a remote machine.
>
> How did you solve the problem of re-sending such mails? Say, Joe Evil
> Cracker is able to c
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 02:38:29PM -0500, Mark Mealman wrote:
> Gentoo on the other hand uses a build system that allows for rapid
> deployment(KDE 3.1 final is in Gentoo and I don't think 3.1 has even
> been officially announced yet), but it won't ever achieve Debian's
> stability.
How can it
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 05:48:39PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 02:57:25PM -0500, Phillip Hofmeister wrote:
> > If user confusion is the issue, why not just rename all non-free
> > packages to packagename-nf or packagename-nonfree or something of the
> > like?
> >
> > J
As discussed previously, I'll be filing bugs against any source or
binary packages which still depend on the obsolete xlib6g* packages.
These will be normal severity for now, but will be raised to serious
severity (for source packages) or grave severity (for binary packages)
once these packages dis
Chris Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > We'd need perhaps three different m68k varieties (two more than now),
> > one more Sparc, one more alpha, no more powerpc IIUC, no more arm, one
> > more mips, one more HPPA (or two?), no more ia64 or s390. So that's
> > nine more varities of 386 to
Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 12:19:13PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
> > Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 11:54:43PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> > > > Humour does not have to be at the expens
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 08:36:37PM +0100, Alexander Neumann wrote:
> John Goerzen wrote:
> > GRUNT is a tool to let you execute commands remotely, offline.
> > It will also let you copy files to a remote machine.
>
> How did you solve the problem of re-sending such mails? Say, Joe Evil
> Cracker
HI Thorsten,
Thorsten Sauter wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> hmm. maybe we misunderstand us :)
Uups, yes. The second time I read your message I replied to I see.
Misread your sentence.
Sorry.
Regards,
Rene
--
.''`. Rene Engelhard -- Debian GNU/Linux Developer
: :' : http://www.debian.org | http://
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 02:07:23PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
> > Well, a likelihood is not a certainly. I, for one, certainly agree with
> > him that kissing girls is a goodness that beats the hell out of card
> > games...
>
> Not me! I'd much rather be kissing Johnny Depp.
Johnny De
On Thu, 2002-11-21 at 15:56, Thorsten Sauter wrote:
> Hi,
>
> anyone can agree that this is a little bit more clearer?
>
>
>
> Description: Display program shortcuts as icons on desktop
> With idesk you can define shortcut's for several programs
The apostophe is an error.
> and display thes
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 02:03:06PM -0800, Daniel Schepler wrote:
> Binary packages (excluding those in source packages listed above):
> wmmoonclock, xaw3dg-dev, xcin2.3, xdigger, xdkcal, xgraph, xsol,
I'm not sure how you gather that
Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 02:03:06PM -0800, Daniel Schepler wrote:
> > Binary packages (excluding those in source packages listed above):
> > wmmoonclock, xaw3dg-dev, xcin2.3, xdigger, xdkcal, xgraph, xsol,
>
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 02:03:06PM -0800, Daniel Schepler wrote:
> As discussed previously, I'll be filing bugs against any source or
> binary packages which still depend on the obsolete xlib6g* packages.
> These will be normal severity for now, but will be raised to serious
> severity (for source
I'm forwarding this message to the list with the permission of the
author, since it relates to the recent thread about mass filing of
bugs regarding libxaw-dev.
--- Begin Message ---
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 10:27:25PM -0800, Daniel Schepler wrote:
> Package: acfax
> Severity: normal
>
> This pack
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 02:31:03PM -0800, Daniel Schepler wrote:
> > > Binary packages (excluding those in source packages listed above):
> > > wmmoonclock, xaw3dg-dev, xcin2.3, xdigger, xdkcal, xgraph, xsol,
> >
> > I'm not sure how
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 08:36:12AM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 11:51:34AM -0500, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 12:06:40AM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> > > I don't believe that transfer will be CPU bound, but rather network and/or
> > > internal bus
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 03:31:52PM -0500, "H. S. Teoh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was
heard to say:
> This package:
> http://packages.debian.org/unstable/editors/the.html
>
> never shows up when you search for "the" in
> http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages
>
> I assume it's because the s
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 06:18:30PM -0500, Daniel Burrows wrote:
> > This package:
> > http://packages.debian.org/unstable/editors/the.html
> >
> > never shows up when you search for "the" in
> > http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages
> >
> > I assume it's because the search engine ignores
On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, H. S. Teoh wrote:
> I assume it's because the search engine ignores common words like "the"
> :-) Also, because the BTS uses the search engine to link to the package
> pages, the package link on the BTS page for "the" will never turn up
> anything.
The BTS uses the search eng
Le jeu 21/11/2002 à 23:12, John Goerzen a écrit :
> After verifying the signature on the data, the receiver does some sanity
> checks. One of the checks is doing an md5sum over the entire file
> (remember, this includes both the headers and the payload). If it
> has seen the same md5sum in the l
From: Julian Gilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: skip to put some version in testing/sarge
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 14:08:31 +
> > tetex-bin 1.0.7+20021025-1 and -2 are a bit buggy so
> > I strongly want them not to be in testing/sarge.
> >
> > And I would like to see only 1.0.7+20021025-3
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 01:49:33PM +0100, Ola Lundqvist wrote:
> Hello
>
> Some people might have notived that I have made some
> (dramatic?) changes to the vnc packages. The reason is
> that the upstream development have started again. :)
>
> The problem is that I used to have the tightvnc patch
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 11:45:55AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
> Craig Dickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > True, but Thomas Bushness was pretty clearly advocating supplying
> > optimized binaries from the repository. Perhaps you missed that
> > implication.
>
> There is no such person w
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 05:43:43PM -0600, Adam Heath wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, H. S. Teoh wrote:
> > I assume it's because the search engine ignores common words like "the"
> > :-) Also, because the BTS uses the search engine to link to the package
> > pages, the package link on the BTS page fo
On Fri, 22 Nov 2002, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 05:43:43PM -0600, Adam Heath wrote:
> > On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, H. S. Teoh wrote:
> > > I assume it's because the search engine ignores common words like "the"
> > > :-) Also, because the BTS uses the search engine to link to the pack
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 02:07:00PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
The habits (and I have them too) of thinking that disk space is costly
are really old habits that it's time to break.
No, it's not. Low end disks are cheap. High end disks still aren't.
Bandwidth still isn't. Especially when you
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 12:15:12PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
> Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > i remember a year or so ago when i complained about this worthless
> > practice i said that it would end up consuming hundreds of megabytes
> > - i was told that was ridiculous,
Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >Well, see, now Manoj would say that none at all were funny. What
> >statistical conclusions am I to derive from that?
>
> That you're not as funny as you think you are?
Still, he is often very funny (and on target), and to be honest, I think
he's quit
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 12:01:12PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
>> Current cost of hard disk is something between $1.00 and $1.50 per
>> gigabyte.
> it's not just the cost of disk space, it's the cost of bandwidth too -
> and recurring bandwidth expenses cost a LOT more than disks (once-off
> capi
* Michael Cardenas
| What we really need is a debian installer web page that has a link to
| cvs, the current status, the mailing list, and the current todo list
| front and center. I'm planning on adding this to my p.d.o site, but I
| haven't had the time yet, as I've been working on udebs for g
* Michael Stone
| On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 10:26:37AM -0800, Mike Fedyk wrote:
| > Yes, please use experemental more than it is now.
|
| Please never use experimental. I much prefer private apt repositories
| with discrete units (e.g., an X repository or gnome repository) over
| experimental, whi
* Tim Dijkstra
| I've got a new old box to play with. Naturally I'll have to install
| debian on it (was planning to install sarge). I remember some people on
| the list asking for debian-installer testers. I would be happy to be
| one, but where can I find it?
Mostly-fresh images can be found
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 02:29:48AM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> * Michael Stone
>
> | On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 10:26:37AM -0800, Mike Fedyk wrote:
> | > Yes, please use experemental more than it is now.
> |
> | Please never use experimental. I much prefer private apt repositories
> | with disc
Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 02:07:00PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
> >The habits (and I have them too) of thinking that disk space is costly
> >are really old habits that it's time to break.
>
> No, it's not. Low end disks are cheap. High end disks s
Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > which I will assume to be correct.
>
> how generous of you. you could have quibbled about every line of the
> directory listing i provided, but you restrained yourself - for that
> small mercy, i will be forever in your debt.
I wasn't being generous
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NOKUBI Takatsugu)
Subject: Re: Proposal - non-free software removal
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 21:25:01 JST
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> >> >> xpdf-japanese
> >> >> cmap-adobe-japan1
> >> >> cmap-adobe-japan2
> >> >> cmap-adobe-korea1
> >>
> It also makes it 5 times as hard to build a modules package for our
> stock kernels. And uses an equivilant of extra space there of course.
If you punch out a kernel module package its not so bad if all the
headers files are installed. I wrote up a e1000 kernel package before
it showed up here
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 05:48:47PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
> Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 02:07:00PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
> > >The habits (and I have them too) of thinking that disk space is costly
> > >are really old habits that it
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 07:27:06PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 12:01:12PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
>
> >> Current cost of hard disk is something between $1.00 and $1.50 per
> >> gigabyte.
>
> > it's not just the cost of disk space, it's the cost of bandwidth too
> >
Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 02:07:23PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
>> > Well, a likelihood is not a certainly. I, for one, certainly agree with
>> > him that kissing girls is a goodness that beats the hell out of card
>> > games...
>>
>> Not me!
>>"Branden" == Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Branden> On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 12:18:20PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote:
>> This is, what, the fourth or fifth? post from Manoj in reply to one of your
>> non-free-debate-related joke. One or two were funny, sure, but I think we've
>> al
>>"Matt" == Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Matt> On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 12:48:51AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> >>"Emile" == Emile van Bergen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
Emile> Leaving me wondering how the collection of selfish genes, known as the
Emile> individual Manoj
>>"Miles" == Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Miles> Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> >Well, see, now Manoj would say that none at all were funny. What
>> >statistical conclusions am I to derive from that?
>>
>> That you're not as funny as you think you are?
Miles> Stil
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> There's "how much does disk space cost?", and then there's "we have x
> disk space available currently, and no budget for expansion right now;
> we only use y GB of it; how much can we mirror with the free disk space
> as a service to the community?"
T
>>"Branden" == Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Branden> Well, a likelihood is not a certainly. I, for one,
Branden> certainly agree with him that kissing girls is a goodness
Branden> that beats the hell out of card games...
Being happily married, kissing girl(s) plural do
>>"Andrew" == Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Andrew> On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 11:54:43PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> Humour does not have to be at the expense of other
>> people.
Andrew> Where's the evidence? (Heinlein would disagree with you)
ok. Even though eviden
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Being happily married, kissing girl(s) plural does not enter
> the realm of goodness by any stretch of the imagination.
>
> A good game of bridge, on the other hand ...
So it's agreed! A game of bridge, me, Branden, Manoj, and some
unn
On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 22:23:17 +0200
Mikko Moilanen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 02:47:16PM -0500, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> >
> > Are you suggesting that you would prefer the latest software, without the
> > integration that Debian provides? If so, you can get this easily by
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 08:37:19PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> >>"Matt" == Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 12:48:51AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> >> and if I can change social norms of conduct so that I would nto be
> >> hurt in the future?
>>"Karl" == Karl M Hegbloom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Karl> Just a reminder... Will folks who place test packages in "apt"
Karl> repositories PLEASE put "Release" files in there along with "Packages"
Karl> and "Sources", so that we can use the man apt_preferences functionality
Karl> to "Pin
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 09:35:51PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> >>"Karl" == Karl M Hegbloom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Karl> Just a reminder... Will folks who place test packages in "apt"
> Karl> repositories PLEASE put "Release" files in there along with "Packages"
> Karl> and "Sources"
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 05:40:39PM -0800, Mike Fedyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was
heard to say:
> Nice, (btw, this is documented in man apt_preferences) but how do you know
> there is a new version available in experemental from apt-cache?
apt-cache show or showpkg will show this..
Daniel
--
/-
>>"Matt" == Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Matt> On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 08:37:19PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> >>"Matt" == Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 12:48:51AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> >> and if I can change social no
Hi,
The sound modules was not there and I tried to compile the kernel my
Menuconfig or xconfig didn't work because of the error,
Make: *** No rules to make target '/Rules.make' Stop.
Then I compile it fome the console mood now the .config file is there
but when I typed
#make deb
make: ***
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 04:12:42PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote:
> After verifying the signature on the data, the receiver does some sanity
> checks. One of the checks is doing an md5sum over the entire file
> (remember, this includes both the headers and the payload). If it
> has seen the same md5s
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 09:43:03PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> You should really learn how to read. Having a goal does not
> imply one depends on succeeding. The journey is often worth it even
> if you do not depend on having attaining the goal.
I read quite well, thank you. Such pe
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 12:55:07AM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> What if the attacker can intercept the messages ? He can prevent a
> message from being sent, and keep it for another day. Seeing your
> computer doesn't halt, you resend the message, and the attacker has 30
> days to use what he h
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 10:19:27AM +0600, chanka perera wrote:
> The sound modules was not there and I tried to compile the kernel my
> Menuconfig or xconfig didn't work because of the error,
>
> Make: *** No rules to make target '/Rules.make' Stop.
>
Don't know what are u trying to make. To run
On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 12:41:19 -0500
Mark Mealman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 11:02:40AM +, Andrew Suffield wrote:
>
> >> On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 08:50:32PM +1100, Andrew Lau wrote:
> >
> >
> >>> > The question I want to pose today is "Are we losing users to
>
>>"Matt" == Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Matt> On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 09:43:03PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> You should really learn how to read. Having a goal does not
>> imply one depends on succeeding. The journey is often worth it even
>> if you do not depend on having
Gah! Why'd he have to bring up biology?
On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> To rely on gracious behaviour from other organisms is a losing
> evolutionary strategy,
Relying soly on gracious behaviour from other organisms yes[1], but it
doesn't necessarily mean that there is no selection f
John Goerzen wrote:
> After verifying the signature on the data, the receiver does some sanity
> checks. One of the checks is doing an md5sum over the entire file
> (remember, this includes both the headers and the payload). If it
> has seen the same md5sum in the last 60 days, it rejects the req
This is interesting. I've been planning to add play-by-mail support to
my mooix moo, but have held off because I didn't want to tackle doing it
securely. But if I can just use grunt and it turns out to be secure..
that'd be sweet. I hope that grunt lets you just compose commands with a
standard mai
On Fri, 22 Nov 2002, Joey Hess wrote:
> > After verifying the signature on the data, the receiver does some sanity
> > checks. One of the checks is doing an md5sum over the entire file
> > (remember, this includes both the headers and the payload). If it
> > has seen the same md5sum in the last
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