Re: Bug#159037: general: Time Problem

2002-09-01 Thread Daniel Schepler
(Already sent to the bug report address -- I accidentally Cc'ed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] the first time.) "Matt Filizzi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Package: general > Version: N/A; reported 2002-08-31 > Severity: normal > Tags: sid > > I don't know what is causing this problem but all I know is t

Bug#159037: general: Time Problem

2002-09-01 Thread Daniel Schepler
"Matt Filizzi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Package: general > Version: N/A; reported 2002-08-31 > Severity: normal > Tags: sid > > I don't know what is causing this problem but all I know is that I have > narrowed it down to being caused either by a package or by the install > system. I instal

Bug#159037: general: Time Problem

2002-09-01 Thread Philip Charles
On 31 Aug 2002, Daniel Schepler wrote: > "Matt Filizzi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Package: general > > Version: N/A; reported 2002-08-31 > > Severity: normal > > Tags: sid > > > > I don't know what is causing this problem but all I know is that I have > > narrowed it down to being caused e

Re: Non-Intel package uploads by maintainer

2002-09-01 Thread Joerg Jaspert
Goswin Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > The autobuilder will check the build-process of your package. >> YOU should do that. > To err is human. Yes. But that does not transform to "Dont do it, i could make an error." >> There are enough ways to test your Build-Depends. >> And if you ha

Bug#159072: ITP: standalone-zodb -- an object database for Python

2002-09-01 Thread Moshe Zadka
Package: wnpp Version: N/A; reported 2002-09-01 Severity: wishlist * Package name: standalone-zodb Version : 1.0 Upstream Author : Zope Corporation * URL : http://www.some.org/ * License : ZPL v2.0 Description : an object database for Python ZODB is the

Re: [Mark.Martinec@ijs.si: Re: perl 5.8 breaks amavis]

2002-09-01 Thread Graeme Mathieson
On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 10:28:43AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 10:34:04AM +0200, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: r > >> Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I don't have an unstable system handy... > > > > > > So can anybody tell if if perl 5.8 has Unix::Syslog? > >

Re: woody CD not bootable with adaptec + scsi-cdrom

2002-09-01 Thread Andreas Metzler
Disclaimer: Because I do not work on the debian-cd, bf or installer and do not follow the mailing lists regularily, I do not know much about this issue and there are probably lots of errors in this mail. Goswin Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just crasht my system working on libsafe and h

Re: Non-Intel package uploads by maintainer

2002-09-01 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 06:44:24AM +0200, Goswin Brederlow wrote: > > > Don't upload binaries at all. > > > > > > The autobuilder will check the build-process of your package. It will > > > build in a clean chroot with proper build-depends. With proper > > > versions of all tools. > > > > > > If

Re: woody CD not bootable with adaptec + scsi-cdrom

2002-09-01 Thread Richard Atterer
On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 06:51:16AM +0200, Goswin Brederlow wrote: > I the discovered that the woody CD (linuxtag prerelease) doesn't > boot. I heard of similar for the real woody release CDs on irc. > > Can anyone boot the CDs, which one of the set and what hardware? > Same if you can't boot. >

Bug#159037: general: Time Problem

2002-09-01 Thread Bart Schuller
On Sat, Aug 31, 2002 at 07:14:43PM -0400, Matt Filizzi wrote: > I don't know what is causing this problem but all I know is that I have > narrowed it down to being caused either by a package or by the install > system. I installed from the woody install disks then upgraded to sid. > What happenes

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Terraform up for adoption

2002-09-01 Thread Ben Burton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 So I have less and less to do with GNOME anything and I suspect the terraform package would really be better off with someone else. Anyone wants to adopt it, be my guest. There's a new upstream version, and hopefully the povray patches can be rem

Re: Terraform up for adoption

2002-09-01 Thread Tomas Guemes
Hi, On Sun, 1 Sep 2002 23:04:08 +1000 Ben Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > So I have less and less to do with GNOME anything and I suspect the > terraform package would really be better off with someone else. > Anyone wants to adopt it,

Bug#159037: general: Time Problem

2002-09-01 Thread Matt Filizzi
On Sat, Aug 31, 2002 at 11:07:54PM -0700, Daniel Schepler wrote: > "Matt Filizzi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Package: general > > Version: N/A; reported 2002-08-31 > > Severity: normal > > Tags: sid > > > > I don't know what is causing this problem but all I know is that I have > > narrowe

Re: Terraform up for adoption

2002-09-01 Thread Mike Furr
On Sun, 2002-09-01 at 09:49, Tomas Guemes wrote: > if no ones has any complain, i will close the bug and try to package > the new upstream version as soon as posible. Don't close the bug. Retitle to an ITA and then close it when you upload your new package. -m signature.asc Description: This

Re: Terraform up for adoption

2002-09-01 Thread Tomas Guemes
Hi Mike, On 01 Sep 2002 11:47:04 -0400 Mike Furr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 2002-09-01 at 09:49, Tomas Guemes wrote: > > if no ones has any complain, i will close the bug and try to package > > > > the new upstream version as soon as posible. > Don't close the bug. Retitle to an ITA a

FYI: SDL_ttf for adoption

2002-09-01 Thread Jérôme Marant
Hi, SDL_ttf's current maintainer is no longer interested in it and doesn't mind giving it away. In addition, version 2 has been released for some time now. Cheers, -- Jérôme Marant http://marant.org

Improper NMU (Re: NMU for libquota-perl)

2002-09-01 Thread Elie Rosenblum
On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 06:37:52PM +0200, Bas Zoetekouw wrote: > Hi Elie! > > You wrote: > > > Why did you NMU this instead of submitting a bug? > > This is inappropriate. > > Well, it's the intent of a bug squashing party to _decrease_ the number > of RC bugs, not to increase it. Also, we're tr

Re: Improper NMU (Re: NMU for libquota-perl)

2002-09-01 Thread David B Harris
On Sun, 1 Sep 2002 12:42:20 -0400 Elie Rosenblum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I also don't see a bug submitted with this. If you're submitting > NMU's, you sure as hell better be submitting bugs with patches (or > the fact that no patch is required other than rebuilding with an > updated system). >

Re: Improper NMU (Re: NMU for libquota-perl)

2002-09-01 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 12:42:20PM -0400, Elie Rosenblum écrivait: > I also don't see a bug submitted with this. If you're submitting > NMU's, you sure as hell better be submitting bugs with patches (or > the fact that no patch is required other than rebuilding with an > updated system). The NMUer

Re: Improper NMU (Re: NMU for libquota-perl)

2002-09-01 Thread Andreas Metzler
Elie Rosenblum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 06:37:52PM +0200, Bas Zoetekouw wrote: [Trivial NMU which was needed for perl-5.8 transition was made on BSP to delayed queue without beforehand notice to the maintainer] > Please delete your uploads. You are violating policy. Hel

Re: Improper NMU (Re: NMU for libquota-perl)

2002-09-01 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 12:42:20PM -0400, Elie Rosenblum wrote: > I also don't see a bug submitted with this. If you're submitting > NMU's, you sure as hell better be submitting bugs with patches (or > the fact that no patch is required other than rebuilding with an > updated system). > > Please d

Bug#159037: general: Time Problem

2002-09-01 Thread Matt Filizzi
On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 06:47:06AM +0200, Goswin Brederlow wrote: > "Matt Filizzi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Package: general > > Version: N/A; reported 2002-08-31 > > Severity: normal > > Tags: sid > > > > I don't know what is causing this problem but all I know is that I have > > narrow

Re: Non-Intel package uploads by maintainer

2002-09-01 Thread Goswin Brederlow
Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 06:44:24AM +0200, Goswin Brederlow wrote: > > > > Don't upload binaries at all. > > > > > > > > The autobuilder will check the build-process of your package. It will > > > > build in a clean chroot with proper build-depends. With p

Re: Non-Intel package uploads by maintainer

2002-09-01 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 09:51:32PM +0200, Goswin Brederlow wrote: > > > > > The autobuilder will check the build-process of your package. It will > > > > > build in a clean chroot with proper build-depends. With proper > > > > > versions of all tools. > > > > > > > > > > If you upload binaries you

Re: Non-Intel package uploads by maintainer

2002-09-01 Thread John Goerzen
On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 09:51:32PM +0200, Goswin Brederlow wrote: > Imagine for eample the case where the sources are missing files, as > happens too often. Then the binary is in violation of the GPL. > > Not good. So why not let the autobuilder do their job for all archs. Because then there's n

Re: Improper NMU (Re: NMU for libquota-perl)

2002-09-01 Thread John Goerzen
On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 07:14:37PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Policy doesn't rule the NMUs. There's no rule for NMUs, just > guidelines ... and the guideline during a BSP are "NMU without prior > notification but upload to DELAYED in order to leave some time to the > maintainer if he's not ha

Re: Improper NMU (Re: NMU for libquota-perl)

2002-09-01 Thread John Goerzen
On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 07:24:46PM +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote: > You did get some mail notice (including the changelog of the NMU) > before the package was/is going to be installed, didn't you? Our reference states that this should occur via the BTS. There is good reason for that -- in particu

Re: Improper NMU (Re: NMU for libquota-perl)

2002-09-01 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi John! You wrote: > > So please ... don't complain about NMUers when they are only trying ot > > help you ! > > There's a difference between NMUs done right and NMUs done wrong. The > latter may not be a help at all, whatever the intent may be. So far, I've heard no objections to the _conten

Re: The harden-*flaws packages.

2002-09-01 Thread Martin Schulze
Please see the thread summarized in : Policy for Woody Point-Releases. [4]Several [5]developers [6]would [7]like to add new packages and updates to their packages to the recently released stable distribution of Debian. Adding new packages and random upd

Re: Improper NMU (Re: NMU for libquota-perl)

2002-09-01 Thread fnord
On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 10:53:47PM +0200, Bas Zoetekouw wrote: > Hi John! > > You wrote: > > > > So please ... don't complain about NMUers when they are only trying ot > > > help you ! > > > > There's a difference between NMUs done right and NMUs done wrong. The > > latter may not be a help at

Re: Improper NMU (Re: NMU for libquota-perl)

2002-09-01 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 05:26:28PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > If a bug even existed for this already, it would certainly not be > release critical. Sure it would. libquota-perl is currently uninstallable. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: More manpower to our core teams

2002-09-01 Thread Martin Schulze
Josip Rodin wrote: > On Sat, Aug 31, 2002 at 01:44:18PM +0200, Torsten Landschoff wrote: > > So here is the list of the new nominations: > > > > FTP Archive Maintenance:Ryan Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > You forgot Randall Donald there. That's my fault, since he's too invisible for me to re

Re: More manpower to our core teams

2002-09-01 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 11:45:56PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: > > > System Administration:Ryan Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Philip Hands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Er, Phil has been one of the four admins almost everywhere, before Ryan > > joined. Argua

Re: Non-Intel package uploads by maintainer

2002-09-01 Thread Goswin Brederlow
John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 09:51:32PM +0200, Goswin Brederlow wrote: > > > Imagine for eample the case where the sources are missing files, as > > happens too often. Then the binary is in violation of the GPL. > > > > Not good. So why not let the autobuild

Re: Improper NMU (Re: NMU for libquota-perl)

2002-09-01 Thread Elie Rosenblum
On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 10:42:44PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 05:26:28PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > If a bug even existed for this already, it would certainly not be > > release critical. > > Sure it would. libquota-perl is currently uninstallable. Mmm. Yes, I s

Re: Improper NMU (Re: NMU for libquota-perl)

2002-09-01 Thread Joey Hess
John Goerzen wrote: > > Why are you upset about it? Was the quality of the NMU bad? One of the > > main points of a BSP is afaik that you can make NMUs to delayed > > _without_ previous notice to the maintainer. > > I see no reason that a BSP should be a "sanctioned but undocumented > exception to

Bug#159232: ITP: bluez-pan -- BlueZ Bluetooth PAN utilities

2002-09-01 Thread Edd Dumbill
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: bluez-pan Version : 1.0 Upstream Author : Johannes Loebbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://bluez.sf.net/ * License : GPL Description : BlueZ Bluetooth PAN utilities Daemon and tool for controlling Bluet

Fwd: Love it when a good plan works out!

2002-09-01 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Great warm and fuzzy mail with an interesting P.S. -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Love it when a good plan works out! Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2002 16:03:14 -0700 From: Johnny Quazar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Just completed my first crack at the new Woody 3

Re: Improper NMU (Re: NMU for libquota-perl)

2002-09-01 Thread John Goerzen
On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 07:35:25PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Standard procedure for NMU's was considerably relaxed (or rather, > clarified) this winter by the release manager. The developers reference > is just that: a reference of typical best practice. Sometimes it's > expedient to not follow it

Re: Improper NMU (Re: NMU for libquota-perl)

2002-09-01 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 07:13:33PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: > On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 07:35:25PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > > Standard procedure for NMU's was considerably relaxed (or rather, > > clarified) this winter by the release manager. The developers reference > > is just that: a reference

Pending removal of konverse/kdestudio

2002-09-01 Thread Ben Burton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all. At some near point in the future I'm going to ask for the removal of konverse and kdestudio from sid/sarge. Konverse doesn't work so well and by all appearances seems dead upstream. Upstream assures us they're in the middle of a complete

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Re: Improper NMU (Re: NMU for libquota-perl)

2002-09-01 Thread Elie Rosenblum
On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 01:28:42AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > Yeah. I did several perl 5.8 NMUs this weekend (all to the delayed > queue), but all of them are filed in the BTS. I don't think aj intended > that routine procedure to be changed. > > > I'm concerned that a single person has the powe

Re: Improper NMU (Re: NMU for libquota-perl)

2002-09-01 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 09:06:20PM -0400, Elie Rosenblum wrote: > The NMU was made before I was in any way contacted. Technically it wasn't. The upload is still in the DELAYED queue, which is really just a convenient automated way of saying "I'll NMU this package in days if I don't hear anything"

Re: Improper NMU (Re: NMU for libquota-perl)

2002-09-01 Thread Elie Rosenblum
On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 02:16:11AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 09:06:20PM -0400, Elie Rosenblum wrote: > > The NMU was made before I was in any way contacted. > > Technically it wasn't. The upload is still in the DELAYED queue, which > is really just a convenient automated

Re: Improper NMU (Re: NMU for libquota-perl)

2002-09-01 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 09:19:17PM -0400, Elie Rosenblum wrote: > On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 02:16:11AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > Technically it wasn't. The upload is still in the DELAYED queue, which > > is really just a convenient automated way of saying "I'll NMU this > > package in days if I

Re: The harden-*flaws packages.

2002-09-01 Thread Daniel Martin
Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Please see the thread summarized in > : > > Policy for Woody Point-Releases. [4]Several [5]developers [6]would > [7]like to add new packages and updates to their packages to the > recently released stable di

Packages affected by removal of free mp3 players

2002-09-01 Thread Joe Drew
If the worst does happen, and we need to remove all mp3 players from Debian, many packages will be affected. Most of these are because of their dependency on libsmpeg, which is the SDL MPEG audio and video decoder. Others depend on other MP3-playing libraries, such as libmad, mpeglib (which is name

Re: Improper NMU (Re: NMU for libquota-perl)

2002-09-01 Thread Elie Rosenblum
On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 02:25:30AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 09:19:17PM -0400, Elie Rosenblum wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 02:16:11AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > > Technically it wasn't. The upload is still in the DELAYED queue, which > > > is really just a conve