Re: g++ 3.2 on woody ?

2002-08-14 Thread Joseph Carter
On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 06:57:24AM +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote: > Please note that the C++ ABI has been changed with gcc 3.2. The > "old" libraries compiled with g++ 3.0.x or 3.1.x can't be used > with 3.2 anymore. Again? *sigh* Apparently their C++ ABI stability goes about as far as my vision.

Re: g++ 3.2 on woody ?

2002-08-14 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
On Tue, Aug 13, 2002 at 22:06:12 -0700, Joseph Carter wrote: > On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 06:57:24AM +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote: > > Please note that the C++ ABI has been changed with gcc 3.2. > Again? *sigh* "The main point of the GCC 3.2 release is to have a relatively stable and common C++ ABI f

Bug#156617: general: Kde K menu is confusing

2002-08-14 Thread don
Package: general Version: 20020814 Severity: normal There is a 'K/Preferences/System' menu and there is also a 'K/system' menu. This is redundant and thus confusing. -- System Information Debian Release: testing/unstable Kernel Version: Linux pumpkin 2.4.16-586 #1 Wed Nov

Re: free-java-sdk and friends - status report

2002-08-14 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Tue, Aug 13, 2002 at 05:16:42PM +0200, Grzegorz Prokopski wrote: > Hello! > > First I wanted to thank all who discussed about the idea of > free-java-sdk. I have included small FAQ and (as adviced) I'll > be including some documentation about 'why ABC is better than XYZ'. > Please, cou

Re: Woody Install Error -- Not bootable

2002-08-14 Thread Junichi Uekawa
On 14 Aug 2002 00:27:05 -0400 Stephen Depooter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This uses the installer's rescue disk kernel which boots fine, so I > don't know where the problem lies. I tried to get around it by using the > rescue disk to boot and install a different kernel image however, I > couldn'

Re: chroot administration

2002-08-14 Thread Russell Coker
On Wed, 14 Aug 2002 05:35, Shaya Potter wrote: > On Tue, 2002-08-13 at 22:09, Colin Walters wrote: > > On Tue, 2002-08-13 at 17:48, Russell Coker wrote: > > > I have written SE Linux policy for administration of a chroot > > > environment. That allows me to give full root administration access > >

M$ true type fonts in non-free?

2002-08-14 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
Even if M$ has made unavailable for download true type fonts required by msttcorefonts, the fonts license (as someone pointed out on the familiar mailing list http://www.handhelds.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/familiar, Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) seems to permit redistribution. This is the key po

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Re: Library namespace conflicts

2002-08-14 Thread Patrick Caulfield
On Fri, Aug 09, 2002 at 04:40:43AM -0400, Simon Law wrote: > > I grant you that, this piece of software is a young 'un; > although I'm surprised that this didn't come up any sooner. (Lucky us.) > > I don't think either library has more than one piece of software > that currently requ

MailMan Security patch for Woody Broken?

2002-08-14 Thread David Fisher
Hi all, I believe that the just released MailMan security fix for woody may be broken. I am running a Debian woody server which runs several MailMan lists which have been running sweetly until just recently. The only thing I can think of that has changed is that, like you do, I installed the

Re: debian-security-announce-$lang@lists?

2002-08-14 Thread Ricardo Javier Cardenes Medina
On Tue, Aug 13, 2002 at 09:23:57PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: > Given the above, what do you think about establishing localized > security-announce lists? Please discuss this issue on debian-security > and not on debian-devel or debian-project to reach a larger audience. Not being a CVS guru my

Bug#156617: general: Kde K menu is confusing

2002-08-14 Thread Thomas Schoepf
reassign 156617 kdebase thanks > There is a 'K/Preferences/System' menu and there is also a > 'K/system' menu. This is redundant and thus confusing. One is for system programs, the other for system settings. What's redundant about that? Thomas --

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Re: chroot administration

2002-08-14 Thread Sam Vilain
Shaya Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I have written SE Linux policy for administration of a chroot > > > environment. That allows me to give full root administration > > > access (ability to create/delete users, kill processes running > > > under different UIDs, ptrace, etc) to a chroot

Re: Bug#156617: general: Kde K menu is confusing

2002-08-14 Thread David Pashley
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 14 August 2002 10:35 am, Thomas Schoepf wrote: > reassign 156617 kdebase > thanks > > > There is a 'K/Preferences/System' menu and there is also a > > 'K/system' menu. This is redundant and thus confusing. > > One is for system programs, t

Re: Library namespace conflicts

2002-08-14 Thread Simon Law
On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 10:11:33AM +0100, Patrick Caulfield wrote: > On Fri, Aug 09, 2002 at 04:40:43AM -0400, Simon Law wrote: > As the man page at http://libdnet.sourceforge.net/dnet.3.txt refers to the > library as "dnet - dumb networking library" how about renaming it libdumbnet? > > :-)

Re: Library namespace conflicts

2002-08-14 Thread Patrick Caulfield
On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 08:06:54AM -0400, Simon Law wrote: > On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 10:11:33AM +0100, Patrick Caulfield wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 09, 2002 at 04:40:43AM -0400, Simon Law wrote: > > As the man page at http://libdnet.sourceforge.net/dnet.3.txt refers to the > > library as "dnet - dumb n

Re: Bug#156503: M$ true type fonts in non-free?

2002-08-14 Thread Eric Sharkey
> Even if M$ has made unavailable for download true type fonts required by > msttcorefonts, the fonts license (as someone pointed out on the familiar > mailing list http://www.handhelds.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/familiar, > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) seems to > permit redistribution. Yes, I k

Re: chroot administration

2002-08-14 Thread Shaya Potter
btw, when I said "stole" i didnt mean it to be harsh. sorry if it came off that way. shaya On Wed, 2002-08-14 at 04:26, Russell Coker wrote: > On Wed, 14 Aug 2002 05:35, Shaya Potter wrote: > > On Tue, 2002-08-13 at 22:09, Colin Walters wrote: > > > On Tue, 2002-08-13 at 17:48, Russell Coker wro

Re: chroot administration

2002-08-14 Thread Shaya Potter
On Wed, 2002-08-14 at 06:50, Sam Vilain wrote: > Shaya Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I have written SE Linux policy for administration of a chroot > > > > environment. That allows me to give full root administration > > > > access (ability to create/delete users, kill processes runn

Re: chroot administration

2002-08-14 Thread Russell Coker
On Wed, 14 Aug 2002 12:50, Sam Vilain wrote: > > argh. its so cool that you essentially stole my summer research. :(. > > Does this allow you to create any amount of chroot jails? We are also > > working on making "virtual IPs" that each jail would get. We are also > > working on being able to mo

Re: chroot administration

2002-08-14 Thread Russell Coker
On Wed, 14 Aug 2002 14:47, you wrote: > btw, when I said "stole" i didnt mean it to be harsh. sorry if it came > off that way. No probs, I didn't take any offense. I'd be happy to work with you on developing such things if your interests are similar to mine. -- I do not get viruses because I

Re: Bug#156503: M$ true type fonts in non-free?

2002-08-14 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 08:47:31AM -0400, Eric Sharkey wrote: > I may need to contact Microsoft for clarification of the terms of their > license. I don't know why MS ended their font program, but if it's > because they felt that the interest of cross platform compatibility was > no longer in MS's

Re: Bug#156503: M$ true type fonts in non-free?

2002-08-14 Thread Bart Schuller
On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 08:47:31AM -0400, Eric Sharkey wrote: > There used to be more information about Microsoft's interprettation of > their own EULA on the font web page. Since that page is gone, it's no > longer there, but the gist of it was that they were taking a very very > strict view of "

Re: Move to python 2.2 as default release?

2002-08-14 Thread Laura Creighton
>>On Aug 06, Torsten Landschoff wrote: >>As the new upstream of python-gnome (for GNOME 2) needs python 2.2 for >>building I am wondering when python 2.2 will get the default version >>for Debian. Any insights? > >I believe a consensus was reached on debian-python that we would move >to Python 2.3

Re: Bug#156503: M$ true type fonts in non-free?

2002-08-14 Thread Eric Sharkey
> On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 08:47:31AM -0400, Eric Sharkey wrote: > > There used to be more information about Microsoft's interprettation of > > their own EULA on the font web page. Since that page is gone, it's no > > longer there, but the gist of it was that they were taking a very very > > strict

Re: Upcoming bug mass-filing re. non-free TrueType fonts in main

2002-08-14 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Fri, Aug 02, 2002 at 01:16:14PM -0300, Ben Armstrong wrote: > So now, the list of packages in violation of non-free font licenses: ... > feh > - contains 'helmetr' (Sun)[1] > > gozer > - contains 'helmetr' (Sun)[1] ... > xplanet > - contains 'helmetr' (Sun)[1] ... > Footnotes: ... > [1] I have

Re: chroot administration

2002-08-14 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 11:50:14AM +0100, Sam Vilain wrote: > You might want to investiage `security contexts', a new kernel feature > that can be used for virtual IP roots as well as making processes in > one context (even root) not able to see other contexts' processes. > The userland utilities a

Re: g++ 3.2 on woody ?

2002-08-14 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 08:16:46AM +0200, "J.H.M. Dassen (Ray)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > On Tue, Aug 13, 2002 at 22:06:12 -0700, Joseph Carter wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 06:57:24AM +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote: > > > Please note that the C++ ABI has been changed with gcc 3.2.

Re: g++ 3.2 on woody ?

2002-08-14 Thread mdew
On Thu, 2002-08-15 at 02:00, Daniel Burrows wrote: > On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 08:16:46AM +0200, "J.H.M. Dassen (Ray)" <[EMAIL > PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > > On Tue, Aug 13, 2002 at 22:06:12 -0700, Joseph Carter wrote: > > > On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 06:57:24AM +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote: > > > >

Re: g++ 3.2 on woody ?

2002-08-14 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 10:00:35AM -0400, Daniel Burrows wrote: > On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 08:16:46AM +0200, "J.H.M. Dassen (Ray)" <[EMAIL > PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > > On Tue, Aug 13, 2002 at 22:06:12 -0700, Joseph Carter wrote: > > > On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 06:57:24AM +0200, Harald Dunkel w

Re: g++ 3.2 on woody ?

2002-08-14 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 10:00:35AM -0400, Daniel Burrows wrote: > On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 08:16:46AM +0200, "J.H.M. Dassen (Ray)" <[EMAIL > PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > > "The main point of the GCC 3.2 release is to have a relatively stable and > > common C++ ABI for GNU/Linux and BSD usage. Un

Re: MailMan Security patch for Woody Broken?

2002-08-14 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 07:23:05PM +1000, David Fisher wrote: > I believe that the just released MailMan security fix for woody may be broken. > > I am running a Debian woody server which runs several MailMan lists which > have been running sweetly until just recently. The only thing I can thi

Re: MailMan Security patch for Woody Broken?

2002-08-14 Thread Florent Rougon
Hi, Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Aug 14 18:48:03 2002 qrunner(1300): AttributeError : 'string' object has > > no > > attribute 'lower' > > This is certainly suspicious, since all Python 'string' objects are supposed > to have a 'lower()' method, as far as I know. I can't loo

Re: Move to python 2.2 as default release?

2002-08-14 Thread Guido van Rossum
Thanks for the post, Laura. I agree -- Python 2.3 won't be ready for a long time, and I recommend to the Debian folks that they standardize on Python 2.2. For now, that will be Python 2.2.1; a maintenance release, 2.2.2 will be issued some time later this year. I don't expect 2.3 to reach maturi

Bug#156673: ITP: aspell-nl -- Dutch wordlists for aspell

2002-08-14 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Package: wnpp Version: N/A; reported 2002-08-14 Severity: wishlist * Package name: aspell-nl Version : 0.0-0.10 Upstream Author : Dirk Vermeir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://tinf2.vub.ac.be/~dvermeir/software/dv/nl-aspell/index.html http://savan

Re: Move to python 2.2 as default release?

2002-08-14 Thread Jim Penny
On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 03:25:01PM +0200, Laura Creighton wrote: > >>On Aug 06, Torsten Landschoff wrote: > >>As the new upstream of python-gnome (for GNOME 2) needs python 2.2 for > >>building I am wondering when python 2.2 will get the default version > >>for Debian. Any insights? > > > >I believ

Re: Move to python 2.2 as default release?

2002-08-14 Thread Jim Penny
On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 11:02:18AM -0400, Guido van Rossum wrote: > Thanks for the post, Laura. I agree -- Python 2.3 won't be ready for > a long time, and I recommend to the Debian folks that they > standardize on Python 2.2. For now, that will be Python 2.2.1; a > maintenance release, 2.2.2 wil

Re: Move to python 2.2 as default release?

2002-08-14 Thread Guido van Rossum
> > Thanks for the post, Laura. I agree -- Python 2.3 won't be ready for > > a long time, and I recommend to the Debian folks that they > > standardize on Python 2.2. For now, that will be Python 2.2.1; a > > maintenance release, 2.2.2 will be issued some time later this year. > > > > But Zope

Re: chroot administration

2002-08-14 Thread Russell Coker
On Wed, 14 Aug 2002 15:47, Michael Stone wrote: > On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 11:50:14AM +0100, Sam Vilain wrote: > > You might want to investiage `security contexts', a new kernel feature > > that can be used for virtual IP roots as well as making processes in > > one context (even root) not able to s

Re: Move to python 2.2 as default release?

2002-08-14 Thread Laura Creighton
Okay, I (and several other people) are confused. What does 'the next default python' and 'skipping 2.2 entirely' that Chris Lawrence writes mean? If typing apt-get is the hardest technical thing you ever do, I want you to get 2.2, not 2.1 or 2.3 when you decide to get Python. Also, I want devel

Re: debian-security-announce-$lang@lists?

2002-08-14 Thread Peter Karlsson
Martin Schulze: > what do other developers think about localized lists for security > advisories, such as [EMAIL PROTECTED] That sounds like a good idea. However, to make sure that the information is sent out as soon as possible, I think it would be a good idea that, whenever a new advisory is is

Att:Sr.Rector:

2002-08-14 Thread UNIVER-EMERITO
Att:Sr.Rector: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Gratamente nos dirigimos a vds.para invitarles y comunicarles la concesion del grado de Gran Emerito por su vinculacion durante tantos años a la difusion y defensa de la medicina naturista. Por medio de JOSE FRANCISCO BLAZQUEZ de University Technolo

Re: Move to python 2.2 as default release?

2002-08-14 Thread Florent Rougon
Laura Creighton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Okay, I (and several other people) are confused. What does > 'the next default python' and 'skipping 2.2 entirely' that Chris Lawrence > writes mean? It means that, if realized, the next Debian release would have: - python 2.3 in the "standard" set

Bug#156682: ITP: zinf -- ZINF audio player (supercedes FreeAmp)

2002-08-14 Thread Andreas Rottmann
Package: wnpp Version: N/A; reported 2002-08-14 Severity: wishlist * Package name: zinf Version : 2.2.0 Upstream Authors: Mark B. Elrod, Robert Kaye, Isaac Richards, Brett Thomas, Jason Woodward * URL : http://www.zinf.org * License : GPL Description : ZI

Re: Move to python 2.2 as default release?

2002-08-14 Thread Guido van Rossum
> Laura Creighton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Okay, I (and several other people) are confused. What does > > 'the next default python' and 'skipping 2.2 entirely' that Chris Lawrence > > writes mean? > > It means that, if realized, the next Debian release would have: > - python 2.3 in th

BUSINESS RELATIONSHIP

2002-08-14 Thread Mr Abdelhadi Benzaghou
ATTN: CEO/PRESIDENT May I indulge your trust and confidence as I introduce myself as well as intimating you of this business proposal. I am Mr Abdelhadi Benzaghou the Algeria OPEC Governor (Organization of Petroleum Exporting countries). Through the sale of our allocated oil quota in OPEC, I was a

Re: debian-security-announce-$lang@lists?

2002-08-14 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
Em Wed, 14 Aug 2002 10:25:36 +0100, Ricardo Javier Cardenes Medina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: > Mmmh... Comes to mind... What are the chances for a non-developer to be > on "writers" at CVS now that we're authenticating via developer-related > ssh keys? That would be very convenient just as man

PLEASE HELP ME

2002-08-14 Thread MR. ANGUS OBIOMA
Dear Gentleman, Greetings in the precious name of Jesus Christ. I have received a very reliable information about you, and would like you to assist me in this transaction. However, I am MR. ANGUS OBIOMA the only son to the former Chief of Army Staff Federal Republic of Nigeria who is presently

Re: chroot administration

2002-08-14 Thread John Hasler
Russell Coker writes: > They don't apply to SE Linux either, the NSA says that SE Linux is > licensed under the GPL only. If anyone wants to dispute that then they > have to sue the NSA... The licensing of the software is orthogonal to the licensing of the patents. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: Upcoming bug mass-filing re. non-free TrueType fonts in main

2002-08-14 Thread Erich Schubert
> Now would be a really good time for people to email authors of decent > TrueType freeware fonts to see if they can be convinced to put their fonts > under a DFSG-free license if anyone is interested in doing that. For the author of ttf-larabie-*, i tried that when i made these packages. The lice

Re: g++ 3.2 on woody ?

2002-08-14 Thread Cyrille Chepelov
Le Wed, Aug 14, 2002, à 10:15:17AM -0400, Michael Stone a écrit: > On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 10:00:35AM -0400, Daniel Burrows wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 08:16:46AM +0200, "J.H.M. Dassen (Ray)" <[EMAIL > > PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > > > "The main point of the GCC 3.2 release is to have a

Re: chroot administration

2002-08-14 Thread Craig Dickson
John Hasler wrote: > Russell Coker writes: > > They don't apply to SE Linux either, the NSA says that SE Linux is > > licensed under the GPL only. If anyone wants to dispute that then they > > have to sue the NSA... > > The licensing of the software is orthogonal to the licensing of the > patent

Re: chroot administration

2002-08-14 Thread Russell Coker
On Wed, 14 Aug 2002 19:50, John Hasler wrote: > Russell Coker writes: > > They don't apply to SE Linux either, the NSA says that SE Linux is > > licensed under the GPL only. If anyone wants to dispute that then they > > have to sue the NSA... > > The licensing of the software is orthogonal to the

Re: Upcoming bug mass-filing re. non-free TrueType fonts in main

2002-08-14 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 04:54:37PM +0200, Erich Schubert wrote: > For the author of ttf-larabie-*, i tried that when i made these > packages. The licence we got does NOT fulfill all DFSG requirements, but > is already very liberate. I don't think we'll get further than that. > So please don't press

Re: exim or postfix for home modem user?

2002-08-14 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Rob Bradford] > Well, yeh but thats relatively recent. And exim does have eximconfig > which does work even if it isnt pretty. It does not work well if you want install the packages automatically on several hosts while supplying the configuration answers using debconf. I hope it will soon. :-)

Re: Bug#156503: M$ true type fonts in non-free?

2002-08-14 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 09:37:19AM -0400, Eric Sharkey wrote: > The problem with copyright lawsuits is that the opinion of the defendant > has absolutely no bearing. What matters is the opinion of the plaintiff, > who decides if a suit should be filed, and the opinion of the judge, > who decides w

Re: Upcoming bug mass-filing re. non-free TrueType fonts in main

2002-08-14 Thread Ian Zimmerman
Ben> "How am I going to deal with it when someone changes my font to Ben> something ugly and it reflects poorly on my skills as a Ben> fontographer?" How is this at all different from the same question asked about program source code? In that context, it is part of the rationale for the Q licens

Re: Move to python 2.2 as default release?

2002-08-14 Thread Chris Lawrence
On Aug 14, Laura Creighton wrote: > The new Python Business Forum (www.python-in-business.com) is > collaborating with the Python developers to produce Python-in-a-Tie, > a business-targetted release of Python. This is a 'Sumo-Release', > which will include other useful Python libraries and progra

Re: Move to python 2.2 as default release?

2002-08-14 Thread Guido van Rossum
> Now, if 2.3 won't be stable until well into next year (as opposed to > the schedule in PEP 283), then we may want to target 2.2.x as our > default version. Which version of PEP 283 are you referring to? It once had us release the final version around the end of August. But the current version

Re: Move to python 2.2 as default release?

2002-08-14 Thread Jim Penny
On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 02:54:31PM -0500, Chris Lawrence wrote: > On Aug 14, Laura Creighton wrote: > > The new Python Business Forum (www.python-in-business.com) is > > collaborating with the Python developers to produce Python-in-a-Tie, > > a business-targetted release of Python. This is a 'Sumo

Re: Upcoming bug mass-filing re. non-free TrueType fonts in main

2002-08-14 Thread Mark Brown
On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 12:45:06PM -0700, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > Ben> "How am I going to deal with it when someone changes my font to > Ben> something ugly and it reflects poorly on my skills as a > Ben> fontographer?" > In that context, it is part of the rationale for the Q license, > AFAIK. (R

Bug#156711: wnpp: ITP: netspeed - Traffic monitor applet for Gnome2

2002-08-14 Thread sebastien . bacher
Package: wnpp Version: N/A Severity: wishlist * Package name : netspeed Version : 0.3 Upstream Author : Jörgen Scheibengruber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL: http://mfcn.ilo.de/netspeed_applet * License : GPL v2 Description : Traffic monitor applet for Gnome2 Netspeed is an applet that sh

Re: Move to python 2.2 as default release?

2002-08-14 Thread Laura Creighton
> BTW: is the PIAT consortium going to offer any DSFG free software? > > Jim Penny It is the PIT-SIG, not consortium, which is part of the Python Business Forum. You can read our bylaws here: www.python-in-business.org/about/bylaws (if you care to). We didn't come together for the Purpose

Re: Bug#156503: M$ true type fonts in non-free?

2002-08-14 Thread Brian Ristuccia
On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 03:42:21PM -0400, Glenn Maynard wrote: > On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 09:37:19AM -0400, Eric Sharkey wrote: > > The problem with copyright lawsuits is that the opinion of the defendant > > has absolutely no bearing. What matters is the opinion of the plaintiff, > > who decides i

Re: Upcoming bug mass-filing re. non-free TrueType fonts in main

2002-08-14 Thread Simon Law
On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 09:36:45PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 12:45:06PM -0700, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > > > Ben> "How am I going to deal with it when someone changes my font to > > Ben> something ugly and it reflects poorly on my skills as a > > Ben> fontographer?" > > > In

Bug#156714: ITP: irssi-snapshot -- The irssi IRC client (Development version)

2002-08-14 Thread Martin Loschwitz
Package: wnpp Version: N/A; reported 2002-08-14 Severity: wishlist * Package name: irssi-snapshot Version : 0.8.5+cvs.20020811 Upstream Author : Martin Loschwitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.irssi.org/ * License : GPL Description : The irssi IRC

Re: Upcoming bug mass-filing re. non-free TrueType fonts in main

2002-08-14 Thread Filip Van Raemdonck
On Fri, Aug 02, 2002 at 01:16:14PM -0300, Ben Armstrong wrote: > > [1] I have been told that the OpenOffice fonts are not free and were > pulled from CVS a short while ago. This puts ttf-openoffice > into question and any other package that contains a font included > in ttf-openoffice

Re: Bug#156714: ITP: irssi-snapshot -- The irssi IRC client (Development version)

2002-08-14 Thread Martin Loschwitz
On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 11:30:49PM +0200, Martin Loschwitz wrote: > Package: wnpp > Version: N/A; reported 2002-08-14 > Severity: wishlist > > * Package name: irssi-snapshot > Version : 0.8.5+cvs.20020811 > Upstream Author : Martin Loschwitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> There was a little

Bug#156715: ITP: irssi-snapshot-dev -- Development files of the irssi IRC client

2002-08-14 Thread Martin Loschwitz
Package: wnpp Version: N/A; reported 2002-08-14 Severity: wishlist * Package name: irssi-snapshot-dev Version : 0.8.5+cvs.20020811 Upstream Author : Timo Sirainen * URL : http://www.some.org/ * License : GPL Description : Development files of the irssi IR

Bug#156716: ITP: xirssi -- GTK Version of irssi (Development version)

2002-08-14 Thread Martin Loschwitz
Package: wnpp Version: N/A; reported 2002-08-14 Severity: wishlist * Package name: xirssi Version : 0.99+cvs.20020811-1 Upstream Author : Timo Sirainen * URL : http://www.irssi.org/ * License : GPL Description : GTK Version of irssi (Development version)

Re: Bug#156714: ITP: irssi-snapshot -- The irssi IRC client (Development version)

2002-08-14 Thread Thom May
* Martin Loschwitz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : > On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 11:30:49PM +0200, Martin Loschwitz wrote: > > Package: wnpp > > Version: N/A; reported 2002-08-14 > > Severity: wishlist > > > > * Package name: irssi-snapshot > > Version : 0.8.5+cvs.20020811 > > Upstream Au

Re: Bug#156715: ITP: irssi-snapshot-dev -- Development files of the irssi IRC client

2002-08-14 Thread Martin Loschwitz
On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 11:33:26PM +0200, Martin Loschwitz wrote: > Package: wnpp > Version: N/A; reported 2002-08-14 > Severity: wishlist > > * Package name: irssi-snapshot-dev > Version : 0.8.5+cvs.20020811 > Upstream Author : Timo Sirainen > * URL : http://www.some.

Re: Upcoming bug mass-filing re. non-free TrueType fonts in main

2002-08-14 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 11:35:30PM +0200, Filip Van Raemdonck wrote: > On Fri, Aug 02, 2002 at 01:16:14PM -0300, Ben Armstrong wrote: > > > > [1] I have been told that the OpenOffice fonts are not free and were > > pulled from CVS a short while ago. This puts ttf-openoffice > > into quest

Re: Menu system rewrite update (Aug 6 2002)

2002-08-14 Thread Denis Barbier
On Sat, Aug 10, 2002 at 04:18:59PM -0500, Chris Lawrence wrote: [...] > If this is something that is actually important for translation > in general, the place to take it up is the XDG working group; > however, KDE and GNOME seem (IMO) to take translation seriously, > and they have not proposed suc

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Re: Menu system rewrite update (Aug 6 2002)

2002-08-14 Thread Chris Lawrence
On Aug 15, Denis Barbier wrote: > Is it reasonable to require that source packages ship a > .desktop.in file and manage translations with PO files? For Debian-specific menu entries, this would be a reasonable requirement, as it would for any menu entries being adapted from an upstream project that

Re: Bug#156503: microsoft changed its policy, msttcorefonts broken

2002-08-14 Thread Scott Dier
On Mon, 2002-08-12 at 20:01, Martin Sarsale wrote: > Since micro$oft stopped giving their true type fonts for free > (http://www.microsoft.com/typography/fontpack/default.htm), msttcorefonts is > unusable :( It would be interesting to investigate either if a font author could be convinced to cr

Re: Move to python 2.2 as default release?

2002-08-14 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 04:28:53PM -0400, Jim Penny wrote: > On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 02:54:31PM -0500, Chris Lawrence wrote: > > On Aug 14, Laura Creighton wrote: [...] > One final point. We will almost definitely not switch the default > python in sid (current unstable), until there is talk that

Re: Bug#156407: ITP: free-java-sdk -- Complete Java SDK environment consising of free Java tools

2002-08-14 Thread Grzegorz Prokopski
> > - it's upstream is really interested in having robust and widely used > > JVM [2], not only another research tool for students > > - it is written in pure C, should be very easily portable to other > > architectures (currently it supports x86, not sure about alpha, but in > > few months s

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2002-08-14 Thread Roger Ward
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Re: Bug#156503: microsoft changed its policy, msttcorefonts broken

2002-08-14 Thread Michael Cardenas
On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 06:48:06PM -0500, Scott Dier wrote: > On Mon, 2002-08-12 at 20:01, Martin Sarsale wrote: > > > Since micro$oft stopped giving their true type fonts for free > > (http://www.microsoft.com/typography/fontpack/default.htm), msttcorefonts > > is unusable :( > > It would be i

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2002-08-14 Thread jeff
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Re: Move to python 2.2 as default release?

2002-08-14 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 04:28:53PM -0400, Jim Penny wrote: > > Laura: (and Guido et al.) > > Debian plans to support at least Python 2.2 and 2.3 in the next > > release (sarge); [...] > One final point. We will almost definitely not switch the default > python in sid (current unstable), until ther