Re: Description to man pages

2002-04-10 Thread Tille, Andreas
Hello, in general I like the idea of descriptions of manpages. I would like it even more if it would regard i18n descriptions which are produced by the ddtp server. Kind regards Andreas. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [

Re: O: gnu-standards -- GNU coding standards

2002-04-10 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 05:32:16PM -0700, Mark Rafn wrote: > I'm not certain I agree. Point one of the social contract is "Debian Will > Remain 100% Free Software". The obvious reading of this is that anything > that is not free software cannot be in Debian. I tend to doubt that *either* was

Please compile treetool for ia64

2002-04-10 Thread Tille, Andreas
Hello, it would be nice if treetool could be available for all released architectures. Cureently only ia64 is missing. auric:~> madison treetool treetool |2.0.2-1 |stable | source, alpha, arm, i386, powerpc, sparc treetool |2.0.2-2 | testing | source, alpha, arm, i386, m

Re: Please compile treetool for ia64

2002-04-10 Thread Bdale Garbee
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tille, Andreas) writes: > Could any kind soul please do the job or just poin to an ia64 box with > installed build dependencies? Done. Bdale -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[REQ] rebuild gmetadom, gtkmathview and lablgtkmathview on HPPA

2002-04-10 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
I and the upstream author have fixed the C++ problem that inhibit gmetadom to build on HPPA with g++ 3.0. Could someone then rebuilt gmetadom and two of the packages that depend on it on HPPA? The three packages are the ones of the subject given in the order in which they have to be rebuilt. (The

Re: Debian's problems, Debian's future

2002-04-10 Thread Michael Bramer
On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 10:25:22AM +1000, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 05:02:34PM +0200, Michael Bramer wrote: > > you propose to add 'some' diff files for all files on ftp-master.d.o? > > > > With rsync we need only one rsync-checksum file per normal file and > > all a

Re: Debian's problems, Debian's future

2002-04-10 Thread Robert Tiberius Johnson
On Tue, 2002-04-09 at 17:25, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > What you are suggesting is that the server store checksums for precalculated > blocks on the server. This would be 4 bytes per 1k in the original file or > so. The transaction proceeds as follows: > > 1. Client asks for checksum list off

upload rejected: md5sum for .orig.tar.gz doesn't match .dsc

2002-04-10 Thread Joost van Baal
Hi, Your package upload (cl-imho, manpages-de, tiger) was rejected due to a mismatch in the original source md5sum. I saw this in auric:/org/ftp.debian.org/incoming/REJECT/*.reason . The package I maintain (lire) was rejected for the same reason. I have absolutely no idea how this was caused, o

Re: sid: libc6-2.2.5-4 kills vmware workstation 3.0

2002-04-10 Thread Torsten Landschoff
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 10:40:41PM +0200, Jeroen Dekkers wrote: > s/refused/discouraged/ and I would agree. Isn't the goal of Debian > providing a free system so users don't have to run any non-free > software anymore? IMHO the "we support non-free software" clause was I think this is one of the g

Re: upload rejected: md5sum for .orig.tar.gz doesn't match .dsc

2002-04-10 Thread Daniel Kobras
On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 10:37:35AM +0200, Joost van Baal wrote: > Your package upload (cl-imho, manpages-de, tiger) was rejected due to a > mismatch in the original source md5sum. I saw this in > auric:/org/ftp.debian.org/incoming/REJECT/*.reason . The package I > maintain (lire) was rejected for

Re: Rant about the flaming here

2002-04-10 Thread Torsten Landschoff
Hi Jeroen, On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 11:42:51PM +0200, Jeroen Dekkers wrote: > > I'm getting sick of people who can't read. Let's say the same thing > for the next time. Maybe a lot of people on this list just need > glasses, so I do it in upper case that you can easily read it: I have yet to see

Re: sid: libc6-2.2.5-4 kills vmware workstation 3.0

2002-04-10 Thread Torsten Landschoff
Hi Donald, On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 07:54:54PM -0500, Donald J Bindner wrote: > Well, I didn't expect to inspire such a vibrant thread! A couple > of responses (not in anger, just adding some perspective). > > 1) free vs. non-free alternatives > > I use VMWare 2.0. If you think that bochs and

Re: sid: libc6-2.2.5-4 kills vmware workstation 3.0

2002-04-10 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Jeroen Dekkers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20020409 20:45]: > You don't have to tell me how glibc works, I develop it. Yeah, and Daniel Stone is a Linux kernel developer. -- Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? C

Re: Debian's problems, Debian's future

2002-04-10 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 01:26:17AM -0700, Robert Tiberius Johnson wrote: > - I tend to update every day. For people who update every day, the > diff-based scheme only needs to transfer about 8K, but the > checksum-based scheme needs to transfer 45K. So for me, diffs are > better. :) I think you'

Re: Debian's problems, Debian's future

2002-04-10 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 07:28:42PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > 0 days of diffs: 843.7 KiB (the current situation) > ...which pretty much matches what I'd expect: at the moment, just to > update main, people download around 1.2MB per day; Uh, obviously this should be 843KiB. (I'd been playi

Re: Apache2 Debian Packages

2002-04-10 Thread Sander Smeenk
Quoting Thom May ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > Very nice :) But I have 2 things: > > 1) Where's apache2-modules? Subversion depends on them! > Subversion needs to update :) Happily, I don't have to be back compat, but I > will add a provides for apache2-modules. We scrapped the seperate deb as it >

Re: sid: libc6-2.2.5-4 kills vmware workstation 3.0

2002-04-10 Thread Mariusz Przygodzki
Od: Martin Michlmayr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Do: debian-devel@lists.debian.org X-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Apr 10 11:26:22 2002 Temat: Re: sid: libc6-2.2.5-4 kills vmware workstation 3.0 Data: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 11:25:53 +0200 > * Jeroen Dekkers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20020409 20:45]: > > You don't have

Re: Subversion packages

2002-04-10 Thread Sander Smeenk
Quoting Marcelo E. Magallon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > missing... try "deb http://people.debian.org/~ssmeenk/ ./" for > http://people.debian.org/~mmagallo/packages/subversion/ sid/i386/ > should work. Okay, I admit, i'm a mess at creating apt-lines :) Your packages are fine, Thom will add '

Re: Subversion packages

2002-04-10 Thread Sander Smeenk
Quoting Thom May ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > Now let's lart Thom for compiling apache2 against libdb3, instead of > > > libdb4, which renders subversion unusable :) > > Again, I don't know about this... > I'm pretty unhappy about the LARTing ;-) heh.. sorry? :) Regards, Sander. -- | Is er ee

Re: upload rejected: md5sum for .orig.tar.gz doesn't match .dsc

2002-04-10 Thread Joost van Baal
On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 10:44:19AM +0200, Daniel Kobras wrote: > On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 10:37:35AM +0200, Joost van Baal wrote: > > Your package upload (cl-imho, manpages-de, tiger) was rejected due to a > > mismatch in the original source md5sum. > > Most likely this is caused by different times

yes && bg

2002-04-10 Thread Michal Medvecký
Hi, anyone know about this problem in debian? yes ^z bg and the terminal ignore any pressed key || combination. Seems to be debian-specific, does not happen on slackware (don't know about any other distros) Michal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe"

Re: Debian's problems, Debian's future

2002-04-10 Thread Richard Atterer
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 10:58:24AM +0200, Michael Bramer wrote: > On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 06:39:19PM +1000, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > > I beleive this method is patented by somebody, [snip] > > has someone a pointer? Here's some stuff from my mail archives - I haven't checked whether the l

Re: Subversion packages

2002-04-10 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Sander Smeenk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Your packages are fine, Thom will add 'Provides' lines for the > apache2-modules packagename. :) Thanks alot for your effort to package > this. These are actually David's packages, I just updated them. > > > Now let's lart Thom for compiling

Re: Apache2 Debian Packages

2002-04-10 Thread Thom May
* Sander Smeenk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : > Quoting Thom May ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > > Very nice :) But I have 2 things: > > > 1) Where's apache2-modules? Subversion depends on them! > > Subversion needs to update :) Happily, I don't have to be back compat, but I > > will add a provides fo

Re: Debian's problems, Debian's future

2002-04-10 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 09:22:50AM +0200, Michael Bramer wrote: > On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 10:25:22AM +1000, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > > With the standard rsync algorithm, the rsync checksum files would actually > > be 8 times larger than the original file (you need to store the checksum > > f

Re: yes && bg

2002-04-10 Thread Steven Barker
On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 12:01:57PM +0200, Michal Medvecký wrote: > Hi, > > anyone know about this problem in debian? > > yes > ^z > bg > > and the terminal ignore any pressed key || combination. Well, I don't see anything unexpected: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ yes y y y y [lots of y's...] y y y [1]

Re: Subversion packages

2002-04-10 Thread Thom May
* Marcelo E. Magallon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : > >> Sander Smeenk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Your packages are fine, Thom will add 'Provides' lines for the > > apache2-modules packagename. :) Thanks alot for your effort to package > > this. > > These are actually David's packages, I

Re: g++-3.0 library support?

2002-04-10 Thread Ulrich Eckhardt
On Sunday 07 April 2002 22:26, King "Leo (Martin Oberzalek)" wrote: > Hello, > > it's not possible linking a C++ library compiled with g++-2.9x to a C++ > application compiled with g++-3.0. > > We all no the reasons... > > My question is how I should handle this, on debian distributions that > are

Re: sid: libc6-2.2.5-4 kills vmware workstation 3.0

2002-04-10 Thread Sebastian Rittau
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 05:49:55PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: > * Jeroen Dekkers ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Isn't the goal of Debian > > providing a free system so users don't have to run any non-free > > software anymore? > > No, no, nonono, no, no, no. Yes, of course. That's one of Debian

Re: sid: libc6-2.2.5-4 kills vmware workstation 3.0

2002-04-10 Thread Emil Pedersen
Mariusz Przygodzki wrote: > > Od: Martin Michlmayr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Do: debian-devel@lists.debian.org > X-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Apr 10 > 11:26:22 2002 > Temat: Re: sid: libc6-2.2.5-4 kills vmware workstation 3.0 > Data: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 11:25:53 +0200 > > > * Jeroen Dekkers <[EMAIL PRO

Re: Debian's problems, Debian's future

2002-04-10 Thread Michael Bramer
On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 01:26:17AM -0700, Robert Tiberius Johnson wrote: > This looks like an interesting algorithm, so I decided to compare it to > the diff scheme analyzed in > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2002/debian-devel-200204/msg00502.html > > The above message also gives my analys

Re: Please test this woody cd image

2002-04-10 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Raphael! You wrote: > Please grab it, burn it, and try to boot on it (you can also install > Debian with it if you want :-)). I just tried it, and it seems to work very well. I had no problems booting whatsoever. > If you have troubles during the installation process, please report your > p

Re: yes && bg

2002-04-10 Thread Michal Medvecký
I mean: yes ^z fg (sorry:) ^c On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 12:01:57PM +0200, Michal Medvecký wrote: > Hi, > > anyone know about this problem in debian? > > yes > ^z > bg > > and the terminal ignore any pressed key || combination. > > Seems to be debian-specific, does not happen on slackware (do

Re: yes && bg

2002-04-10 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 02:29:05PM +0200, Michal Medvecký <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > I mean: > > yes > ^z > fg (sorry:) > > ^c Nothing strange happens to me with zsh or bash when I try that. Daniel -- / Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

/dev/ptmx suid root tty device file - Who owns this?

2002-04-10 Thread David D. W. Downey
Evening ladies and gents, got a file here that's set suid root as a tty device. $ dpkg -S /dev/ptmx dpkg: /dev/ptmx not found $ doing a $ grep ptmx -r /var/lib/dpkg/ | less $ shows the tetex-base tetex-extra packages and their font ins

Re: O: gnu-standards -- GNU coding standards

2002-04-10 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 02:52:21AM -0400, Glenn Maynard wrote: > On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 05:32:16PM -0700, Mark Rafn wrote: > > I'm not certain I agree. Point one of the social contract is "Debian Will > > Remain 100% Free Software". The obvious reading of this is that anything > > that is not

Re: Subversion packages

2002-04-10 Thread Sander Smeenk
Quoting Marcelo E. Magallon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > > Now let's lart Thom for compiling apache2 against libdb3, instead of > > > > libdb4, which renders subversion unusable :) > > > Again, I don't know about this... > > Thom does :) He didn't want tons of emails questioning where to ge

Re: Accepted gettext 0.10.40-5 (i386 all source)

2002-04-10 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Santiago Vila wrote: > gettext (0.10.40-5) unstable; urgency=medium > . >* Modified /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50gettext.el so that it only uses > modify-coding-system-alist when it's actually ok to do so. > This closes: #110416 (xemacs21) and also closes: #141446 (emacs19).

Re: /dev/ptmx suid root tty device file - Who owns this?

2002-04-10 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 05:51:30AM -0700, David D. W. Downey wrote: > I know that a grep -i ptmx -r kernel-source-2.4.18/ will show a > Pseudo-tty which is fine. The devices.txt shows that it's a Master pty > for the pty master multiplex, and the lettering positions within the pty array > list. Th

m68k autobuilder disk full!

2002-04-10 Thread Peter S Galbraith
build/m68k 1.168 Build started at 20020410-0651 ** Checking available source versions... sbuild received SIGTERM -- shutting down ** Finished

Re: m68k autobuilder disk full!

2002-04-10 Thread Peter S Galbraith
> Quoting Peter S Galbraith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > Build needed 00:00:00, 0k disk space > > Just FYI, this '0k disk space' means there was 0k disk space needed to > build the package. (Since it got killed with SIGTERM). Ah, I thought the reverse for some reason (killed because of no space).

Re: yes && bg

2002-04-10 Thread Fabio Pedrazzoli
On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 12:01:57PM +0200, Michal Medveck? wrote: Hi, I think the "y" stream of the background process running obfuscates your command prompt and it seems not to be accepting commands... On my potato with 2.4.18 if I do: bash ~$ yes|grep -v y

Re: Debian's problems, Debian's future

2002-04-10 Thread Michael Bramer
On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 08:29:49PM +1000, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 09:22:50AM +0200, Michael Bramer wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 10:25:22AM +1000, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > > > With the standard rsync algorithm, the rsync checksum files would actually > >

please upgrade libxslt package to 1.0.15

2002-04-10 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
Dear Nicolas, woody is coming and libxslt package in testing is still at version 1.0.12 which has a fastidious bug/feature that create .memdump files spread all over the filesystem (includeing "/" !!!). In later versions at least this bug/feature is not compiled unless explicitely stated with a c

Re: [REQ] rebuild gmetadom, gtkmathview and lablgtkmathview on HPPA

2002-04-10 Thread Randolph Chung
In reference to a message from Stefano Zacchiroli, dated Apr 10: > I and the upstream author have fixed the C++ problem that inhibit > gmetadom to build on HPPA with g++ 3.0. > > Could someone then rebuilt gmetadom and two of the packages that depend > on it on HPPA? if you upload new sources/ver

Re: Please test this woody cd image

2002-04-10 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 11:06:44AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Hello everybody, > > release is coming soon ... and we need a bit of feedback about > a new feature we plan to use on CD1 of Debian woody for i386. On CD *1*? Surely you don't plan to introduce new features in such a core compon

Re: Please test this woody cd image

2002-04-10 Thread Tille, Andreas
On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, Bas Zoetekouw wrote: > I just tried it, and it seems to work very well. I had no problems > booting whatsoever. I did just a quick look (no real install just booted and selected the language) and I really like the i18n stuff!!! Great job! Many thanks! Kind regards

Re: please upgrade libxslt package to 1.0.15

2002-04-10 Thread Will Newton
On Wednesday 10 Apr 2002 3:36 pm, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > As a last resort I can NMU it, even if I'm not very in touch with the > package nor with the upstream sources. When I prepared the NMU libxslt greater than 1.0.12 needed a newer libxml2 than was available in the archive. Now it should

Bug#142207: ITP: billard-gl -- A billiard game using OpenGL

2002-04-10 Thread Martin Butterweck
Package: wnpp Version: N/A; reported 2002-04-10 Severity: wishlist * Package name: billard-gl Version : 1.70 Upstream Author : Various <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.billardgl.de/ * License : GPL Description : A billiard game using OpenGL -- Syst

Re: Accepted gettext 0.10.40-5 (i386 all source)

2002-04-10 Thread Andreas Metzler
Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Previously Santiago Vila wrote: >> gettext (0.10.40-5) unstable; urgency=medium [...] > Does gettext still depend om emacs-* through gettext-el? I really would > like to see that fixed before gettext makes it to testing. [...] Hello, afaics 0.10.40-4

to buy laptop

2002-04-10 Thread Damian Sanabria
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Re: Python module for debconf

2002-04-10 Thread Adam Heath
On Mon, 8 Apr 2002, Gerhard Muntingh wrote: > On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 01:36:40PM -0500, Chris Lawrence wrote: > > On Apr 07, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > > Isn't it a bit heavy to make debconf depend on python ? > > > > Why would debconf have to depend on python? You stick the module in > > and on

please test gshield 2.7.1 package for debian

2002-04-10 Thread Domenico Andreoli
hi all, i packaged gshield 2.7.1 for debian. everything is available at http://filibusta.crema.unimi.it/~cavok/gshield/ . please check it! thanks cavok -[ Domenico Andreoli, aka cavok --[ http://filibusta.crema.unimi.it/~cavok/gpgkey.asc ---[ 3A0F 2F80 F79C 678A 8936 4FEE 0677 9033 A20

Re: [REQ] rebuild gmetadom, gtkmathview and lablgtkmathview on HPPA

2002-04-10 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 08:11:14AM -0700, Randolph Chung wrote: > if you upload new sources/versions they will automatically be retried, > please check the buildd logs at http://buildd.debian.org/ to see the > status. Already done it, but I'm experiencing delays on hppa, so I asked here. > assum

Re: please upgrade libxslt package to 1.0.15

2002-04-10 Thread Michael Piefel
Am 10.04.02 um 15:57:37 schrieb Will Newton: > but beware that libxml2 currently has an RC bug so libxslt will be > blocked until that is fixed. No RC bug there, Junichi Uekawa downgraded it himself. > I'm not sure if Nicholas reads this list, I had no success contacting him > previously. Pleas

Re: Accepted gettext 0.10.40-5 (i386 all source)

2002-04-10 Thread Santiago Vila
On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Previously Santiago Vila wrote: > > gettext (0.10.40-5) unstable; urgency=medium > > . > >* Modified /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50gettext.el so that it only uses > > modify-coding-system-alist when it's actually ok to do so. > > This clos

Re: m68k autobuilder disk full!

2002-04-10 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, Peter S Galbraith wrote: > > But I don't know why it got killed ;) > > Maybe some admin thought there were some important packages to process. > :-( It's more likely killed because the build daemon was brought down for maintenance. Since it didn't even download the source, th

Re: Debian's problems, Debian's future

2002-04-10 Thread Erich Schubert
> Scheme Disk space Bandwidth > --- > Checksums (bwidth optimal)26K 81K > diffs (4 days)32K 331K > diffs (9 days)71K

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Re: Bug#139945: ITP: prokyon3 -- a multithreaded MP3 manager and tag editor for Linux.

2002-04-10 Thread Emanuele Aina
Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> suggerì: You might have luck with 2.4 and the UDF filesystem and udftools. Haven't tried it myself, so I'm not sure it'll work. :) But I have already tried: the kernel still assume the cd drive as read-only at low level (or so I've been said :) , so I can only cr

Re: GNU FDL (was Re: Bug#141561: gnu-standards: Non-free software in main)

2002-04-10 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Steve" == Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Steve> As a developer, I am by no means in a position to try to Steve> interpret what the phrasers of the Social Contract /really/ Steve> meant to say. They wrote what they wrote, and I agreed to it Steve> as written; as did many other d

Bug#142235: O: x2x -- Link two X displays together, simulating a multiheaded display

2002-04-10 Thread Charles Briscoe-Smith
Package: x2x Version: 1.27-6 I no longer have the time or the inclination to maintain x2x. I've just fixed a quick imake bug and orphaned it. A previous NMU'er has helpfully debhelperised the package for you. -- Charles Briscoe-Smith Hacking Free Software for fun and profit "When y

Re: O: gnu-standards -- GNU coding standards

2002-04-10 Thread paul cannon
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 04:34:36PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: > The issue is that the Debian Social Contract doesn't say "All software > in Debian will remain 100% free", it says "Debian will remain 100% Free > Software." Interesting. I had always read it as "Debian will remain (100% Free) Softw

Re: Python module for debconf

2002-04-10 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Adam" == Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Adam> Um, you byte-compile when building the package, duh. Adam> Any runtime compilation is wrong(and yes, I include emacs in this). Emacs doesn't do runtime byte compilation. Debian emacs add on modules to install time bye compilation

Re: Python module for debconf

2002-04-10 Thread Adam Heath
On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Emacs doesn't do runtime byte compilation. Debian emacs add on > modules to install time bye compilation, which is not run time. Any > reason you think byte compilation ought not to happen on > installation? (slowing down the install is one

Re: Please test this woody cd image

2002-04-10 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 02:14:36PM +0200, Bas Zoetekouw wrote: > > If you have troubles during the installation process, please report your > > problems to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Are people working on the dutch translation of the installation? If not, > I could do it. We still don't have anyone to

Request for gnuchess packaging change

2002-04-10 Thread Lukas Geyer
Hi, after unsuccessful attempts to contact the maintainer of gnuchess, Martin Mitchell (he did not answer at all to my emails), I would like to propose a change to the packaging of gnuchess. Andreas Tille did at least do an NMU to update to version 5.03 which fixes several outstanding bugs. One re

Re: Python module for debconf

2002-04-10 Thread Alan Shutko
Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The byte compilation should be done when the package is built, not > at runtime, not at install time. So you're saying that the maintainer should need to either create separate packages for a given add-on for all current (and future) Emacs flavors, or that

Re: Please test this woody cd image

2002-04-10 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include Matt Zimmerman wrote on Wed Apr 10, 2002 um 10:45:35AM: > On CD *1*? Surely you don't plan to introduce new features in such a core > component mere weeks before the scheduled release? There is no way that it Why not? Weeks != days. > could receive sufficient testing in that time. I

Re: GNU FDL (was Re: Bug#141561: gnu-standards: Non-free =?iso-8859-15?q?software in?= main)

2002-04-10 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 01:24:00PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >>"Steve" == Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Steve> As a developer, I am by no means in a position to try to > Steve> interpret what the phrasers of the Social Contract /really/ > Steve> meant to say. They wrote w

Re: Python module for debconf

2002-04-10 Thread Adam Heath
On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, Alan Shutko wrote: > Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > The byte compilation should be done when the package is built, not > > at runtime, not at install time. > > So you're saying that the maintainer should need to either create > separate packages for a given add-o

Re: Python module for debconf

2002-04-10 Thread Mark Brown
On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 03:30:08PM -0400, Alan Shutko wrote: > current (and future) Emacs flavors within the one package, even though > for most people that will be useless data? Not to mention requiring huge amounts of disk space for Emacs packages even though the maintainer is likely to use onl

Re: GNU FDL (was Re: Bug#141561: gnu-standards: Non-free =?iso-8859-15?q?software in?= main)

2002-04-10 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Tue, 9 Apr 2002, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 02:03:11PM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote: > > The history section in my book, which is declared invarient in the > > license, was written by Ian M. and has no technical bearing on the rest of > > the book's content, but has every re

Re: Python module for debconf

2002-04-10 Thread Adam Heath
On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, Mark Brown wrote: > Not to mention requiring huge amounts of disk space for Emacs packages > even though the maintainer is likely to use only one. Is debian for maintainers or users? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Co

Re: sid: libc6-2.2.5-4 kills vmware workstation 3.0

2002-04-10 Thread Jeroen Dekkers
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 06:38:13PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Tue, 09 Apr 2002, Jeroen Dekkers wrote: > > But does that mean they can posts question about problems with that > > non-free software which are not related to Debian at all (the only > > relation is that the user runs

Re: GNU FDL (was Re: Bug#141561: gnu-standards: Non-free software in main)

2002-04-10 Thread Jeff Licquia
On Wed, 2002-04-10 at 14:39, Steve Langasek wrote: > > I'd be happy to hear clarifications from the author and contemporaries, > then; to be honest, my memory of Debian history isn't good enough to > even know who to approach. (The debian-doc package is conspicuously > lacking of the relevant c

Re: Packages still in Potato

2002-04-10 Thread Bob Hilliard
Otto Wyss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Packages: dict-easton, dict-gazetteer, dict-hitchcock > The listed packages are still located in the Potato directory, > possibly because there wasn't any update necessary during the full > Woody development phase, but maybe also because there is no intere

Re: Python module for debconf

2002-04-10 Thread Alan Shutko
Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Is debian for maintainers or users? Users are well-served by not requiring a maintainer to release new byte-compiled versions of a package for a new flavor of Emacs. -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a variety of flavors! Stealing a rhinoceros shou

Re: Python module for debconf

2002-04-10 Thread Mark Brown
On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 02:56:08PM -0500, Adam Heath wrote: > On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, Mark Brown wrote: > > Not to mention requiring huge amounts of disk space for Emacs packages > > even though the maintainer is likely to use only one. > Is debian for maintainers or users? Making it prohibitively

Re: GNU FDL (was Re: Bug#141561: gnu-standards: Non-free =?iso-8859-15?q?software in?= main)

2002-04-10 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, Richard Braakman wrote: > On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 02:03:11PM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote: > > The freedom of expression of the author is what is being > > protected by this clause. The freedom to express opinion without having > > those statements twisted into something complete

Re: Python module for debconf

2002-04-10 Thread Jérôme Marant
Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >> Emacs doesn't do runtime byte compilation. Debian emacs add on >> modules to install time bye compilation, which is not run time. Any >> reason you think byte compilation ought not to happen on >> i

Re: upload rejected: md5sum for .orig.tar.gz doesn't match .dsc

2002-04-10 Thread Dale Scheetz
This happened to me on my first upload of libgmp3_4.0.1. At first I thought it was a breakage caused by this library, but eventually resolved the problem by upgrading ssh. (I use scp to do uploads to auric) The tarball was being corrupted by ssh during the transfer. HTH, On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, Dan

Re: sid: libc6-2.2.5-4 kills vmware workstation 3.0

2002-04-10 Thread Jeroen Dekkers
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 07:54:54PM -0500, Donald J Bindner wrote: > Well, I didn't expect to inspire such a vibrant thread! A couple > of responses (not in anger, just adding some perspective). > > 1) free vs. non-free alternatives > > I use VMWare 2.0. If you think that bochs and Plex86 aren't

Re: Please test this woody cd image

2002-04-10 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 08:33:00PM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: > Matt Zimmerman wrote on Wed Apr 10, 2002 um 10:45:35AM: > > > On CD *1*? Surely you don't plan to introduce new features in such a core > > component mere weeks before the scheduled release? There is no way that it > > Why not? We

Processed: Re: Bug#142164: acknowledged by developer (Re: Bug#142164: apt: output ignores locale)

2002-04-10 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > reassign 142164 general Bug#142164: apt: output ignores locale Bug reassigned from package `apt' to `general'. > severity 142164 wishlist Bug#142164: apt: output ignores locale Severity set to `wishlist'. > thanks Stopping processing here. Please con

Re: Please test this woody cd image

2002-04-10 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include Matt Zimmerman wrote on Wed Apr 10, 2002 um 04:45:08PM: > > Why not? Weeks != days. > > 10 days != long enough to test a completely different _primary_ way of > booting the installation system. a) isolinux is not completely new. It is syslinux, extended with ability of reading iso96

Re: Please test this woody cd image

2002-04-10 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 04:45:08PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 08:33:00PM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: > > And sorry, IMHO is idepci the worst kernel-image to be used for CD#1 as > > the only available flavor. > > It seems to work for a large number of users, and that is i

Re: GNU FDL (was Re: Bug#141561: gnu-standards: Non-free =?iso-8859-15?q?software in?= main)

2002-04-10 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 03:52:52PM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 02:03:11PM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote: > > > The history section in my book, which is declared invarient in the > > > license, was written by Ian M. and has no technical bearing on the rest of > > > the book's

Re: GNU FDL (was Re: Bug#141561: gnu-standards: Non-free =?iso-8859-15?q?software in?= main)

2002-04-10 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 02:57:32PM -0500, Jeff Licquia wrote: > On Wed, 2002-04-10 at 14:39, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > > I'd be happy to hear clarifications from the author and contemporaries, > > then; to be honest, my memory of Debian history isn't good enough to > > even know who to approach

Re: Please test this woody cd image

2002-04-10 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 11:23:26PM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: > #include > Matt Zimmerman wrote on Wed Apr 10, 2002 um 04:45:08PM: > > 10 days != long enough to test a completely different _primary_ way of > > booting the installation system. > > a) isolinux is not completely new. It is syslinux

Re: /dev/ptmx suid root tty device file - Who owns this?

2002-04-10 Thread David D.W. Downey
On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 03:12:05PM +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote: > On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 05:51:30AM -0700, David D. W. Downey wrote: > [PGP-signed message] > > Where is this key (C5A76BF6) available for download, neither > keyservers, nor > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2001/debian-devel-

New GNUPG Key for David D.W. Downey

2002-04-10 Thread David D.W. Downey
-BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org mQGiBDyvwRcRBACH5M/fUVvXh0SvhvmkMbKcIvHaBD32O+xKMWponbIbcOvChMU0 KBHnUzCsypwfTMKZpdpIsDyUTmbGo19Zm0+1kVcP5esZles1Ffi9Mply1HKMHLIT y0/uGvFG+79hVL+YndsMDtxn/O5dN7kXA08ymyvkVhPTH/u4frU0q

Bug#142264: ITP: usemod -- CGI-based Wiki clone

2002-04-10 Thread Benjamin Drieu
Package: wnpp Version: N/A; reported 2002-04-11 Severity: wishlist * Package name: usemod Version : 0.92 Upstream Author : Clifford A. Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.usemod.com/ * License : GPL Description : CGI-based Wiki clone UseMod is a

Re: GNU FDL (was Re: Bug#141561: gnu-standards: Non-free =?iso-8859-15?q?software in?= main)

2002-04-10 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 03:52:52PM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote: > While I'm not sure that M. Mouse should be owned by anyone but Uncle Walt, > I understand the fear of the current copyright holder, given that I am in > direct contact with the spirit of the original Mr. Disney. He has some > very clea

David D.W. Downey - Old Key 42D8F306 Signed by New Key C5A76BF6

2002-04-10 Thread David D. W. Downey
OK, folks. For the purposes of consistency, I've signed the old lost key with the new key and posted both keys to the keyservers. I've put the old lost key (Just the public key export of it of course) on linuxnewbie.codecastle.com, devel.codecastle.com, and admin.codecastle.com in the my_public_ke

Re: Debian Conference 2 Registration

2002-04-10 Thread Carlos Laviola
On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 04:01:46PM -0500, Joe Drew wrote: > On Sat, 2002-04-06 at 15:03, Martin Schulze wrote: > > Joe Drew wrote: > > > Let me re-iterate this for people who might not have gotten the message: > > > > > > LINDOWS.COM HAS SPENT REAL MONEY ON DEBCONF 2 AND DESERVES SUPPORT, NOT > >

Re: Debian Conference 2 Registration

2002-04-10 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, Carlos Laviola wrote: > IIS server because "we" were given money. I believe principles are more > important than money. So spend your time writing the scripts. -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind th

Re: Please test this woody cd image

2002-04-10 Thread Erik Andersen
On Wed Apr 10, 2002 at 06:02:28PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 11:23:26PM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: > > > #include > > Matt Zimmerman wrote on Wed Apr 10, 2002 um 04:45:08PM: > > > 10 days != long enough to test a completely different _primary_ way of > > > booting the

Re: Debian Conference 2 Registration

2002-04-10 Thread Joe Drew
I promised myself that I wouldn't get into this any more, but it seems that people still aren't understanding... On Wed, 2002-04-10 at 20:15, Carlos Laviola wrote: > Well, it seems to me like you're implying there would be > [EMAIL PROTECTED] that would be so lame that they would not know the > di

Re: David D.W. Downey - Old Key 42D8F306 Signed by New Key C5A76BF6

2002-04-10 Thread christophe barbé
On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 04:40:03PM -0700, David D. W. Downey wrote: > For the purposes of consistency, I've signed the old lost key with the new > key and posted both keys to the keyservers. ... > I'm hereby using these emails, the signature on the old key as sent to > the keyservers, and the we

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