Re: probably FAQ: Uploading to sid with potato's dupload?

2001-09-03 Thread Stefan Hornburg Racke
Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, > > this might be an FAQ; but for security, I'll ask as well: I do my > development in a sid chroot on potato. Can I use potato's dupload to > upload the finished packages, I do this and there seems to be no problem besides getting ~/.dupload.conf ri

Re: How many people need locales?

2001-09-03 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On 20010903T022104+0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > [ See Bug #111008 for details ]. Looking at that bug, you are asking the wrong question. You should be asking about the need for localized messages, not about the need for locales. Most Finnish users use the fi_FI locale, but many still use English

openGL problems: how is it supposed to work?

2001-09-03 Thread Erik Steffl
I have DRI and openGL (mesa) working, but I have few strange problems. xscreensaver: openGL demo hacsk are running in software mode when run by xscreensaver but run accelerated when run from xterm. xscreensaver openGL demo hacks run in window mode (when run from xterm, accelerated), how do

Re: How many people need locales?

2001-09-03 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, 3 Sep 2001, Ari Makela wrote: > Santiago Vila writes: > > > For the purposes of determining whether or not "most users need to > > change the /etc/locale.gen file" Ben and I need an estimate of the > > proportion of Debian users using locales among all Debian users. > > Just about any

Re: library build problems

2001-09-03 Thread Junichi Uekawa
"H. S. Teoh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> immo vero scripsit I have heard rumours that Debian libtool is incompatible with automake version prior to 2.50. But I have not verified it myself. > Hi all, I'm the maintainer of the libsndfile package, and I've noticed > that there's been an NMU to fix a build

Re: Making better use of multiple maintainers

2001-09-03 Thread Joey Hess
I think it's a great idea. I also note that quite a few base packages already have multiple or backup maintainers -- dpkg, boot-floppies, and tasksel come to mind. I've also been unofficial backup maintainer for some other packages in the past and I doubt I'm alone. Formalizing this and using the U

Re: openGL problems: how is it supposed to work?

2001-09-03 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Erik Steffl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > xscreensaver: openGL demo hacsk are running in software mode when run > by xscreensaver but run accelerated when run from xterm. IIRC, this is a xscreensaver FAQ (alas! I'm not sure) > is libglide3 still used for implementation of openGL? when

Re: How many people need locales?

2001-09-03 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include Santiago Vila wrote on Mon Sep 03, 2001 um 02:21:04AM: > I think we can consider the volume or the number of subscribers of the > debian-user mailing list, and compare it with the volume or the number > of subscribers of all other language-specific debian-user-foo lists > combined. Is th

Re: How many people need locales?

2001-09-03 Thread Ben Collins
On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 08:24:43AM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: > #include > Santiago Vila wrote on Mon Sep 03, 2001 um 02:21:04AM: > > > I think we can consider the volume or the number of subscribers of the > > debian-user mailing list, and compare it with the volume or the number > > of subscrib

Re: How many people need locales?

2001-09-03 Thread Ari Makela
Ben Collins writes: > With an installed size of over 8megs, I don't think that is such a good > idea. During the configuration phase we get a rough time zone information. For example, I have $ cat /etc/timezone Europe/Helsinki >From this information it's possible to genereate the needed loca

Re: How many people need locales?

2001-09-03 Thread Michael Bramer
On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 03:16:25AM -0400, Ben Collins wrote: > On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 08:24:43AM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: > > #include > > Santiago Vila wrote on Mon Sep 03, 2001 um 02:21:04AM: > > > > > I think we can consider the volume or the number of subscribers of the > > > debian-user m

Re: How many people need locales?

2001-09-03 Thread Ben Collins
On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 10:22:12AM +0300, Ari Makela wrote: > Ben Collins writes: > > > With an installed size of over 8megs, I don't think that is such a good > > idea. > > During the configuration phase we get a rough time zone > information. For example, I have > > $ cat /etc/timezone > Eu

Re: How many people need locales?

2001-09-03 Thread Ben Collins
On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 09:25:04AM +0200, Michael Bramer wrote: > On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 03:16:25AM -0400, Ben Collins wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 08:24:43AM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: > > > #include > > > Santiago Vila wrote on Mon Sep 03, 2001 um 02:21:04AM: > > > > > > > I think we can

Re: openGL problems: how is it supposed to work?

2001-09-03 Thread Erik Steffl
"Marcelo E. Magallon" wrote: > > >> Erik Steffl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > xscreensaver: openGL demo hacsk are running in software mode when run > > by xscreensaver but run accelerated when run from xterm. > > IIRC, this is a xscreensaver FAQ (alas! I'm not sure) yes it was. didn'

Re: How many people need locales?

2001-09-03 Thread Radovan Garabik
On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 02:21:04AM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > Hello. > > For the purposes of determining whether or not "most users need to > change the /etc/locale.gen file" Ben and I need an estimate of the > proportion of Debian users using locales among all Debian users. I have yet to meet

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Re: How many people need locales?

2001-09-03 Thread Michael Bramer
On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 03:33:52AM -0400, Ben Collins wrote: > On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 09:25:04AM +0200, Michael Bramer wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 03:16:25AM -0400, Ben Collins wrote: > > > On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 08:24:43AM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: > > > > I really wish to make the local

Re: How many people need locales?

2001-09-03 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include Ben Collins [DPL] wrote on Mon Sep 03, 2001 um 03:33:52AM: > > maybe you don't use it, but a lot of user don't speak english or can't > > understand it. We must support locales and if a user can't speak > > english he pay this price. > > This isn't a matter of not using it, it's a matt

Re: How many people need locales?

2001-09-03 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include Michael Bramer wrote on Mon Sep 03, 2001 um 09:25:04AM: > maybe you don't use it, but a lot of user don't speak english or can't > understand it. We must support locales and if a user can't speak > english he pay this price. > I had another idea: integrate it into boot floppies (*) so

Re: How many people need locales?

2001-09-03 Thread Radovan Garabik
On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 07:12:16AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Mon, 3 Sep 2001, Ari Makela wrote: > > > Santiago Vila writes: > > > > > For the purposes of determining whether or not "most users need to > > > change the /etc/locale.gen file" Ben and I need an estimate of the > > > propo

Re: How many people need locales?

2001-09-03 Thread Michael Meskes
On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 03:33:52AM -0400, Ben Collins wrote: > This isn't a matter of not using it, it's a matter of a sane base How do you define "sane"? > install. Perhaps base-config could ask if the user wants locales. Know > what? That question is being asked in english _anyway_. Which of

Re: new port: and the winner is....

2001-09-03 Thread A Mennucc1
hi On Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 12:21:41PM +0300, Richard Braakman wrote: > On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 10:32:19PM +0200, Carsten Leonhardt wrote: > > A Mennucc1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Why? well, there was no big consenous on any name; so I looked at the > > > problem the other way around, and

Re: RFD: translated description with dpkg

2001-09-03 Thread Michael Banck
On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 11:59:34AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > We already package things that we ourselces can't completely > fix. or even know if they are totally screwed up or not. (I do not > use nnimap, and I can't tell whether it is screwed up wither -- how > long do you want to

Re: How many people need locales?

2001-09-03 Thread Roger So
[ This was sent to Ben privately by accident; I'm resending it to the list. ] On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 03:33:52AM -0400, Ben Collins wrote: > This isn't a matter of not using it, it's a matter of a sane base > install. Perhaps base-config could ask if the user wants locales. Know > what? That que

Ask/install locales in installation time (Re: How many people need locales?)

2001-09-03 Thread Tomohiro KUBOTA
Hi, At Mon, 3 Sep 2001 09:58:31 +0200, Radovan Garabik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > that is the point. You need to use 8-bit chars, not locales. > Unfortunately, i18n (flawed) approach is to use locale to > allow 8-bit chars. I hope you don't forget about multibyte encodings. Anyway

Re: Making better use of multiple maintainers

2001-09-03 Thread Stefan Hornburg Racke
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I think it's a great idea. I also note that quite a few base packages > already have multiple or backup maintainers -- dpkg, boot-floppies, and > tasksel come to mind. I've also been unofficial backup maintainer for > some other packages in the past and I do

new port: the never ending story

2001-09-03 Thread A Mennucc1
hi --- still on the name let's start by a few quotations: "an arch is an arch is an arch is an arch" "an arch by any other name would work the same" "shut up and show them the arch" it: "l' arch e' l'apostrofo rosa fra le parole 'package' e '.deb'" en: "the arch is the pink apostrophe be

Re: Making better use of multiple maintainers

2001-09-03 Thread Eric Van Buggenhaut
On Sun, Sep 02, 2001 at 07:55:43PM +0200, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > During the base freeze preparations in the last few weeks, a problem > Debian has always had became apparent again. Since Debian is a > distributed, volunteer run project it is hard to tell whether a maintainer > is doing Debian w

Re: How many people need locales?

2001-09-03 Thread Roger So
On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 05:06:21AM -0400, Ben Collins wrote: > On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 06:29:43PM +1000, Roger So wrote: > > A "universal OS" (which we claim on our website), with dysfunctional > > support for the language which the user speaks natively, even during the > > installation phase, is i

Re: How many people need locales?

2001-09-03 Thread Santiago Vila
[ In reply to Henrique de Moraes ] Ooops! Sorry. The bug I refer is really #110980 (I happen to submit two i18n-related bugs the same day and confused them). The bug basically says "/etc/locale.gen should not be a conffile because most people will need to modify it" but Ben does not agree that pe

Re: How many people need locales?

2001-09-03 Thread Richard Kettlewell
Ari Makela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If you take a look at even just European languages you can see that > most of them cannot be written with a-zA-Z. Actually, I think only > English can. It can't here, if you want to refer to the local currency in the conventional way. -- http://www.green

Re: How many people need locales?

2001-09-03 Thread Drew Parsons
On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 09:39:57AM +0200, Radovan Garabik wrote: > > I have yet to meet a person who would ever need a slovak locale. > Nobody cares at all (collate order? who needs that? Different > format of numbers? This is not only unneeded, but even harmful. > Different format of date? Who c

Re: How many people need locales?

2001-09-03 Thread Oliver Elphick
Santiago Vila wrote: >[ In reply to Henrique de Moraes ] > >Ooops! Sorry. The bug I refer is really #110980 (I happen to submit >two i18n-related bugs the same day and confused them). > >The bug basically says "/etc/locale.gen should not be a conffile >because most people will need to

Re: How many people need locales?

2001-09-03 Thread Ari Makela
Richard Kettlewell writes: > It can't here, if you want to refer to the local currency in the > conventional way. I stand corrected. I've already been bashing myself because I wrote Belgia (that's how it's written in Finnish but certainly not in English). I feel that the user should be able t

Re: How many people need locales?

2001-09-03 Thread Jean-Marc Chaton
* Santiago Vila [Mon, 03/09/2001 at 12:03 +0200] > The bug basically says "/etc/locale.gen should not be a conffile > because most people will need to modify it" I agree : - Almost all French users (and I think I can extrapolate: all the users who need to read messages with non-ascii chars) ne

Re: /usr/dict/ -> /usr/share/dict/ request (bug #110632)

2001-09-03 Thread Debian User
David Coe wrote: > > Hi all, > > A user has filed a wishlist bug against (potato) wenglish because the > (slink) symlink from /usr/dict/words is now a symlink from > /usr/share/dict/words, per FHS. This user would like /usr/dict/words > reinstated as a symlink to the user's preferred word list.

Re: Which versions of libraries are developers supposed to compile against?

2001-09-03 Thread Jules Bean
On Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 08:15:11AM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: > Basically once your library is frozen don't upload major changes to > unstable until the release. If you know what you are doing and fully > understand the issues involved you can actually get away with a fair > bit more, but if you sc

Re: Bootable CD

2001-09-03 Thread Eric Van Buggenhaut
On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 01:30:07PM -0700, BERNARDES,JOAN (Non-HP-Brazil,ex1) wrote: > Hi, > > I want to create a bootable cd with graphical support (based on > Debian), but I have many questions. > * The CD need to run in various video adapters with the resolution > 800x600 pixels

Re: How many people need locales?

2001-09-03 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 12:55:53PM +0200, Jean-Marc Chaton wrote: > > - It is clumsy to have to answer : "No, keep the modified version" each > time the package is updated. that only happens if the file in the package has changed from the installed version of the package. that is if etc/local

Re: How many people need locales?

2001-09-03 Thread Radovan Garabik
On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 08:06:56PM +1000, Drew Parsons wrote: > I mostly agree, LC_CTYPE is the main thing I'm interested in with locales, > except for one other thing. Date format is *very* important. No, if it is unambiguous. > > To explain, my parents' anniversary is 8/1/63. Shall I congra

Re: How many people need locales?

2001-09-03 Thread Michael Meskes
On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 07:46:16PM +1000, Roger So wrote: > > The OS is operational without locales. Albeit, it lacks certain I beg to disagree, that is it is operational in our sense of the term, yes, but it is not operational for all those people not speaking enough english. How would you feel i

Re: How many people need locales?

2001-09-03 Thread Radovan Garabik
On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 12:55:53PM +0200, Jean-Marc Chaton wrote: > * Santiago Vila [Mon, 03/09/2001 at 12:03 +0200] > > The bug basically says "/etc/locale.gen should not be a conffile > > because most people will need to modify it" > > I agree : > > - Almost all French users (and I think I can

Re: Which versions of libraries are developers supposed to compile against?

2001-09-03 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Jules" == Jules Bean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Jules> This seems a step back from the old freeze procedure, where Jules> you could upload to frozen (and, I assume, auto-builders Jules> were building against frozen) Well, once your library and all dependencies are frozen you

Bug#111053: ITP: eroaster -- A cdrecord frontend using gtk and written in python

2001-09-03 Thread Martin Butterweck
Package: wnpp Version: N/A; reported 2001-09-03 Severity: wishlist * Package name: eroaster Version : 2.0.10 Upstream Author : MArtin Preishuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://sourceforge.net/projects/eroaster/ * License : GPL Description : A cdrecord

Re: How many people need locales?

2001-09-03 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 03 Sep 2001, Ben Collins wrote: > This isn't a matter of not using it, it's a matter of a sane base > install. Perhaps base-config could ask if the user wants locales. Know > what? That question is being asked in english _anyway_. No, it will not, at least not always. There are l10n versi

Re: How many people need locales?

2001-09-03 Thread Mark Brown
On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 03:40:03AM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: > that leaves the question to: how often is the default locale.gen file > altered in locales? i would guess not all that often, therefore your > not going to be asked about it very often. It changes relatively often, actually. -- "Y

Re: How many people need locales?

2001-09-03 Thread Miros/law Baran
3.09.2001 pisze Radovan Garabik ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > but you have to realize one thing: they are not doing it because of > locale. They are doing it because they want to tell their > applications to pass 8-bit characters unaffected. A quite elegant _theory_. Rather untrue. Falsified by me. Jub

Re: How many people need locales?

2001-09-03 Thread Radovan Garabik
On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 02:34:58PM +0200, Miros/law Baran wrote: > 3.09.2001 pisze Radovan Garabik ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > but you have to realize one thing: they are not doing it because of > > locale. They are doing it because they want to tell their > > applications to pass 8-bit characters

Re: moving a package from non-US/main to main?

2001-09-03 Thread Marc Haber
On 02 Sep 2001 23:18:56 -0400, Sam Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> "Marc" == Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >Marc> On Sun, 2 Sep 2001 22:49:00 +0200 (CEST), Santiago Vila >Marc> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> However, you can repackage the .orig.tar.gz source and remov

Re: How many people need locales?

2001-09-03 Thread Richard Kettlewell
Radovan Garabik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Jean-Marc Chaton wrote: >> - Almost all French users (and I think I can extrapolate: all the >> users who need to read messages with non-ascii chars) need to set >> up a '/etc/locale.gen' to see them correctly for example with >> mutt, and that e

Re: How many people need locales?

2001-09-03 Thread Eduard Bloch
Okay, if nobody objects I will start implementing support for it in boot-floppies (dbootstrap). #include Eduard Bloch wrote on Mon Sep 03, 2001 um 09:49:37AM: > #include > Michael Bramer wrote on Mon Sep 03, 2001 um 09:25:04AM: > > > maybe you don't use it, but a lot of user don't speak english

Re: How many people need locales?

2001-09-03 Thread Roger So
Quite offtopic, but anyway... On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 02:54:30PM +0200, Radovan Garabik wrote: > On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 02:34:58PM +0200, Miros/law Baran wrote: > > 3.09.2001 pisze Radovan Garabik ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > > > but you have to realize one thing: they are not doing it because of

Re: moving a package from non-US/main to main?

2001-09-03 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Marc" == Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Marc> On 02 Sep 2001 23:18:56 -0400, Sam Hartman Marc> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Marc> wrote: >>> "Marc" == Marc Haber >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Marc> On Sun, 2 Sep 2001 22:49:00 +0200 (CEST), Santiago Vila

Re: moving a package from non-US/main to main?

2001-09-03 Thread Santiago Vila
Marc Haber wrote: > Sam Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [ principle of pristine sources ] > >So, that's not a principle, it's a somewhat desirable goal. For some > >licenses it may be necessary, but there are many reasons you might > >have to change the upstream tarball, including for examp

Re: Making better use of multiple maintainers

2001-09-03 Thread James Troup
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm having a hard time getting it to work though. I tried Uploaders with > dpkg 1.9.17 and no go: > > dpkg-gencontrol: warning: unknown information field Uploaders in input > data in general section of control info file It needs to be in the source section

Re: How many people need locales?

2001-09-03 Thread Fumitoshi UKAI
At Mon, 03 Sep 2001 09:46:42 +0900, Tomohiro KUBOTA wrote: > Estimating number of users from ML subscribers: > Since there are [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing lists whose > public language is Japanese, Japanese people tend to subscribe > them and don't subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] or even > debian-japane

Re: How many people need locales?

2001-09-03 Thread Radovan Garabik
On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 11:54:29PM +1000, Roger So wrote: > Quite offtopic, but anyway... discussion is about locales generally already... > > On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 02:54:30PM +0200, Radovan Garabik wrote: > > They hate, or at least are indifferent to having menus > > in their native language

Re: How many people need locales?

2001-09-03 Thread Miros/law Baran
3.09.2001 pisze Radovan Garabik ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > well, ok, that would work, but the point is that locale is bloated > and most people use just a few parts of it, parts that could be > achieved by other ways. Locales have two big advantages: they exist and they are quite consistent. best re

Bug#111071: ITP: libhttpfetcher -- A simple library to download files via HTTP

2001-09-03 Thread Vikram Aggarwal
Package: wnpp Version: N/A; reported 2001-09-04 Severity: wishlist http fetcher is a small library to download files via HTTP. It allows only the GET method. http fetcher is available at http://sourceforge.net/projects/http-fetcher/ It is developed by Lyle Hanson, who has made it available under

Re: RFC: Signed packages and translations

2001-09-03 Thread Niklas Hoglund
On Sat, Sep 01, 2001 at 07:21:28PM +0200, Simon Richter wrote: > On Sat, 1 Sep 2001, Christian Kurz wrote: > > > not be ascii armored since this would only introduce transmission overhead > > > and gain nothing. The file name for this file is constructed from the > > > Why does it gain nothing? Wh

Re: CUPS

2001-09-03 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
> > Yes, I know that. But it appears to be a problem with the cupsomatic-ppd > printer file. Also I still wonder if there's a reason for not configuring a > printer in the postinst as does the lpr/magicfilter combo. Probably because you're supposed to use a gooey web browser to add a printer... a

Re: CUPS

2001-09-03 Thread Michael Meskes
On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 11:16:31AM -0500, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: > Probably because you're supposed to use a gooey web browser to add > a printer... a bit much for a postinst script. Not exactly. The way I read the docs you can use lpadmin from the commandline to add a printer. In fact it works fo

Re: How many people need locales?

2001-09-03 Thread David Starner
On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 12:03:19PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > The bug basically says "/etc/locale.gen should not be a conffile > because most people will need to modify it" but Ben does not agree > that people using locales is "most people". Recent copies (unless it was changed back to big file

Re: CUPS

2001-09-03 Thread Ari Makela
Dimitri Maziuk writes: > Probably because you're supposed to use a gooey web browser to add > a printer... a bit much for a postinst script. No, it can be done by hand. With cups one really has to do one's RTFM. If one does, it'll work fine. IMAO: development list shouldn't be a help desk. An

Re: Making better use of multiple maintainers

2001-09-03 Thread Joey Hess
James Troup wrote: > Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I'm having a hard time getting it to work though. I tried Uploaders with > > dpkg 1.9.17 and no go: > > > > dpkg-gencontrol: warning: unknown information field Uploaders in input > > data in general section of control info file > >

Re: Making better use of multiple maintainers

2001-09-03 Thread James Troup
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > That's how I tried it, no go. dpkg-gencontrol does not contain the > word '[Uu]ploaders' on my system either. Oh, right, yah, okay; it appears it was only dpkg-source that was patched. The dpkg-gencontrol is just a warning though, the Uploaders field still

Re: How many people need locales?

2001-09-03 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, 3 Sep 2001, Oliver Elphick wrote: > Santiago Vila wrote: > >[ In reply to Henrique de Moraes ] > >Ooops! Sorry. The bug I refer is really #110980 (I happen to submit > >two i18n-related bugs the same day and confused them). > >The bug basically says "/etc/locale.gen should not be

Re: How many people need locales?

2001-09-03 Thread Santiago Vila
David Starner wrote: > Santiago Vila wrote: > > The bug basically says "/etc/locale.gen should not be a conffile > > because most people will need to modify it" but Ben does not agree > > that people using locales is "most people". > > Recent copies (unless it was changed back to big file edition)

searching for Michel Onstein [Mailer-Daemon@next-element.nl: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender]

2001-09-03 Thread Josip Rodin
- Forwarded message from Mail Delivery System <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Delivery-date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 20:21:20 +0200 X-Failed-Recipients: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Mail Delivery System <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender Date: Mo

Re: How many people need locales?

2001-09-03 Thread David Starner
On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 07:55:52PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > Very rarely != never. If you put an /etc/locale.gen file which is > different than the default one before installing locales_2.2, dpkg > will still prompt about it. Which will bite a few people running older versions of testing or un

Two sets of binary packages from one source package?

2001-09-03 Thread James LewisMoss
Situation is that the gnome versions of the xemacs packages have troubles. Broken in irritating ways. But (I believe) because they are associated with the other xemacs packages and they have grave bugs none of the packages move over into testing. So my first inclination is just to stop producing

Re: How many people need locales?

2001-09-03 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > We are supposed to minimize the number of questions. If we can go > from "very rarely" to "never", that's already a gain. Actually that's something I've been meaning to ask for a while now. debconf has made question-less installation possible or

Re: Two sets of binary packages from one source package?

2001-09-03 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 16:19:47 -0400, James LewisMoss wrote: > So can i have two sets of bin packages (xemacs-non-gnome and misc packages > vs gnome bin packages) coming from the same source package? Sure; see e.g. the vim source package for an (extreme?) example. Ray -- LEADERSHIP A form of

Re: Two sets of binary packages from one source package?

2001-09-03 Thread Colin Walters
James LewisMoss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Situation is that the gnome versions of the xemacs packages have > troubles. Broken in irritating ways. Yeah. I don't personally use XEmacs, but I like to test my code on it, and after discovering that stuff like popup menus were dying deep inside t

ITP: webreport

2001-09-03 Thread Martin F Krafft
first of all, is this the right way to do ITP's? i just simply sent a mail... second, and mainly, i would like to package WebReport for debian. it may be found at http://www.inter7.com/webreport/ and i could not find it in the current dist, and wnpp system seems down on debian.org. anyway, web re

Intent for NMU of python-2.1 packages

2001-09-03 Thread Matthias Klose
As David Maslen pointed out in http://lists.debian.org/debian-python/2001/debian-python-200109/msg0.html Debian doesn't have yet python-2.1 in it's distro, although released in June (2.1) and July (2.1.1). Gregor (the python-1.5 and python-2.0 maintainer) has put experimental packages at http:/

Re: How many people need locales?

2001-09-03 Thread Santiago Vila
David Starner wrote: > Santiago Vila wrote: > > I never asked for a debconf interface (I explained in the bug report > > (#110980) a possible way to do it and it would take just a few lines > > of shell scripting). I just asked following policy. > > And making it a conffile but not is a huge improv

최신 컬러폰이 5만원?!!

2001-09-03 Thread 와우폰
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Gtranscript et. al. [Was: searching for Michel Onstein]

2001-09-03 Thread Michel Onstein
Hi, first of all... always pay attention when modifying your alias file... sorry for that one... ANywyas... recently i have received a few bug reports regarding gtranscript and it's dependend packages.. As i do no longer use it.. and it is not being maintained (for new versions of postgress e.g.)

Re: RFC: Signed packages and translations

2001-09-03 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Mon, Sep 03, 2001 at 06:13:37PM +0200, Niklas Hoglund wrote: > Have I misunderstood that a signature is a kind of checksum. What purpose > does adding a checksum to a checksum have? If the signature is invalid the > .deb should not be trusted, but thrown away and redownloaded. Because a cracker

Re: step by step HOWTO switch debian installation into utf-8

2001-09-03 Thread Brian May
> "Drew" == Drew Parsons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Preparing correct locale: Pick a locale you would use. I >> decided to use en_GB, you may use something else, the important >> part is the UTF-8 encoding. 1) generate the locale: # >> localedef -v -c -i en_GB -f UTF-8 /us

Re: How many people need locales?

2001-09-03 Thread Brian May
> "Radovan" == Radovan Garabik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> To explain, my parents' anniversary is 8/1/63. Shall I >> congratulate them in August, or in January? >> Radovan> and is it 1863, 1963 or 2063? (just joking :-)) Yes, date Radovan> format is important but whoe

Re: step by step HOWTO switch debian installation into utf-8

2001-09-03 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 11:12:25AM +1000, Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > How do you get gdm to log you in using a nonstandard locale? I can > > - select a list of different languages, but not different versions of English > > - in the configuration screen see a list of "defaul

isync vs mailsync

2001-09-03 Thread Brian May
Hello, In my search for a "perfect" offline IMAP client(TM) I have looked at isync vs mailsync. Which one is better? Why is one better then the other? I have found that in fact both have limitations, so will describe the pros and cons here, in case in can help anybody else. I will not comment i

feedback on jablicator: package choice sharing tool

2001-09-03 Thread Jeff Breidenbach
Hi all, I just wrote "jablicator" [1], which is a tool to help novice Debian administrators leech off of more experienced administrators. Specifically in the area of picking an appropriate set of packages to install from Debian's untold thousands. I appreciate any feedback or suggestions, and par