Re: Gnome bug 94684

2001-04-30 Thread Brian May
> "Raphael" == Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Raphael> It's a pity we have to keep all those upstream bugs in Raphael> the Debian BTS when there's an upstream BTS. Each Raphael> maintainer should be able to decide if he wants to keep Raphael> the upstream forwarded

Re: debbugs can now send bug mails to someone different than the maintainer

2001-04-30 Thread Brian May
> "Matt" == Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Matt> I agree that a system like this would be nice, but until Matt> that day, you can subscribe to debian-bugs-dist and use Matt> procmail to filter everything but packages you are Matt> interested in. The configuration s

Re: Gnome bug 94684

2001-04-30 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It's more likely that the upstream people will pay more attention to > that bug, since they know someone has bothered to analyze the > problem already to make it easier for them. As someone who has spent way more time as an upstream developer than as a De

Re: Many ports open by default

2001-04-30 Thread Sami Haahtinen
On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 10:29:58PM -0600, Dwayne C. Litzenberger wrote: > Why does a server automatically get run just because it's installed? For > instance, portmap is installed by default whether you're using NFS or not, and > bnetd runs even if I just installed the package for bnchat. Shouldn

Re: FWD: Popularity-contest submission doesn't go through to apenwarr-survey@klecker.debain.org

2001-04-30 Thread Christian Kurz
On 01-04-29 Joey Hess wrote: > Anyone have a clue? > > Received: from myhostname.my.isp.com ([EMAIL PROTECTED] [127.0.0.1]) > by localhost (8.12.0.Beta7/8.12.0.Beta7/Debian 8.12.0.Beta7-1) with > +ESMTP id f3QDlYZ2018784 > for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 07:47:34 > +-0600 Suddenly

Re: Many ports open by default

2001-04-30 Thread Andres Salomon
Why would you keep something around if you don't want to run it? Debian makes the (correct) assumption that if you've installed something, you want to run it. If i install bind, it will assume i want it to run. If i install exim, it will first configure it for me (prompting me), and then assume

Re: debbugs can now send bug mails to someone different than the maintainer

2001-04-30 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 03:40:56PM +1000, Brian May wrote: > > "Matt" == Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Matt> I agree that a system like this would be nice, but until > Matt> that day, you can subscribe to debian-bugs-dist and use > Matt> procmail to filter everyth

Re: Many ports open by default

2001-04-30 Thread Aaron Lehmann
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 02:25:34AM -0400, Andres Salomon wrote: > Why would you keep something around if you don't want to run it? Debian > makes the (correct) assumption that if you've installed something, you > want to run it. That's not true. inetd is depended on by the lame metapackage netbas

Re: debbugs can now send bug mails to someone different than the maintainer

2001-04-30 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 02:36:21AM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > Unless, of course, you can do your filtering on the mail server, as I do. and how many isps allow this? -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpnnXUWcAbZ4.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Many ports open by default

2001-04-30 Thread Andres Salomon
On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 11:43:43PM -0700, Aaron Lehmann wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 02:25:34AM -0400, Andres Salomon wrote: > > Why would you keep something around if you don't want to run it? Debian > > makes the (correct) assumption that if you've installed something, you > > want to run

Bug#95807: ITP: zsnes -- Free Super Nintendo emulator

2001-04-30 Thread Aaron Lehmann
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist I intend to package zsnes, an SNES emulator. zsnes (http://www.zsnes.com) has a DOS heritage, but early this month the source code was released under the GPL and it was immediately ported to SDL. Once the Linux version is officially released (which should be in a m

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-30 Thread Craig Sanders
On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 07:48:02PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: > I won't go below that as an SMP kernel is always required, no it's not. anyone running SMP ought to have enough of a clue to compile their own kernel. why should everyone else pay the price for their cluelessness? > and the 686 fl

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-30 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sat, Apr 28, 2001 at 02:15:50PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: > Please also consider that if the user were to compile his own kernel, > he would face the problem of having to recompile the modules packages > if they're needed. use kernel-package and all the module packages are compiled automaticall

Re: debbugs can now send bug mails to someone different than the maintainer

2001-04-30 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 03:40:56PM +1000, Brian May wrote: > > "Matt" == Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Matt> I agree that a system like this would be nice, but until > Matt> that day, you can subscribe to debian-bugs-dist and use > Matt> procmail to filter everythi

Re: RFC: English translation list

2001-04-30 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 09:20:22PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > What I am proposing is a new list, similar in scope to the other l10n > lists, where developers can bring text they need a clean English version > of (be the original in some other language, or their best try in > English), and get a good

Re: Are build-dependancies mandatory?

2001-04-30 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 05:05:08PM -0700, Daniel Schepler wrote: > Is this an inconsistency with the above quote from section 7.6, which > uses the word "may"? Yes. Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths

Re: Conflict: libgb

2001-04-30 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, 29 Apr 2001, Ben Burton wrote: >... > Of course there are no packages in Debian which use Gnome Basic either, > since this is its first packaging. You can compile gnumeric with support for Gnome Basic. > Ben. cu Adrian -- Nicht weil die Dinge schwierig sind wagen wir sie nicht, sonde

Re: FWD: Popularity-contest submission doesn't go through to apenwarr-survey@klecker.debain.org

2001-04-30 Thread Matthijs Melchior
Christian Kurz wrote: > > On 01-04-29 Joey Hess wrote: > > Anyone have a clue? > > > > Received: from myhostname.my.isp.com ([EMAIL PROTECTED] [127.0.0.1]) > > by localhost (8.12.0.Beta7/8.12.0.Beta7/Debian 8.12.0.Beta7-1) with > > +ESMTP id f3QDlYZ2018784 > > for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 2

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-30 Thread Torsten Landschoff
Hi Craig, On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 05:19:12PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: > > I won't go below that as an SMP kernel is always required, > > no it's not. > > anyone running SMP ought to have enough of a clue to compile their own > kernel. This is the point where I disagree. I really hate havi

Re: Lightweight Web browsers

2001-04-30 Thread Ola Lundqvist
On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 06:04:08PM +0200, Jérôme Marant wrote: > > Hi, > > I was looking for a lightweight web browser and I try tried > all of those I could get in debs. Unfortunately, neither > mozilla nor galeon nor konqueror are satisfactory in terms > of memory usage (says less tha

X-Medium in /var/lib/dpkg/available

2001-04-30 Thread Nils Rennebarth
Short problem description: dpkg complains about wrong syntax in /var/lib/dpkg/available, and in fact there are a lot of package descriptions where the last line read something like (from memory) X-MediumDebian GNU/Linux potato CD 2... which should of course read X-Medium: Debian GNU/Linux potat

Re: Many ports open by default

2001-04-30 Thread Warren A. Layton
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 02:25:34AM -0400, Andres Salomon wrote: > Why would you keep something around if you don't want to run it? Debian > makes the (correct) assumption that if you've installed something, you > want to run it. If i install bind, it will assume i want it to run. Well, not ever

Re: Many ports open by default

2001-04-30 Thread Paul Martin
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 08:45:44AM +0300, Sami Haahtinen wrote: > The 'exit 0' line in the beginning of the init file is a bad idea. for so many > times i've commented out the '### comment this line to really start the > service' lines. and then after upgrade gotten in to the position where i have

Re: Bug#95818: libpgsql2.1: should not depend on ident-server

2001-04-30 Thread Oliver Elphick
Robert Bihlmeyer wrote: >Package: libpgsql2.1 >Version: 7.1release-2 >Severity: normal > >identds are considered mild privacy/security risks, therefore I don't >think libpgsql2.1 and postgresql-client[1] should depend on >ident-server. > >The main use seems to be to allow local co

Re: analysis of package dependencies

2001-04-30 Thread Peter Palfrader
Hi Matt! On Sat, 28 Apr 2001, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > Deborphan is nearly perfect for this. Right now, it just keeps track of > > whether a package was installed to satisfy a dependancy, or because you > > really want it. If instead of the y/n question it uses for this, it > > asked _why_ you

Re: Proposing task-debian

2001-04-30 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Joey" == Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Joey> If these tools become widly enough accepted that we think Joey> everyone should have them available by default, we can make Joey> them standard priority. In the new universe (debbootstrap, tasksel, etc) where a user might nev

drivers

2001-04-30 Thread Oswaldo Vivar Diaz
por favor enviar drivers     gracias

Re: Conflict: libgb

2001-04-30 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 06:01:30PM -0500, Ben Burton wrote: > Of course there are no packages in Debian which use Gnome Basic either, > since this is its first packaging. The issue is more that sgb is specifically intended for people to use as a platform for developing combinatorial algorithms, an

Re: Many ports open by default

2001-04-30 Thread Dwayne C. Litzenberger
> Why would you keep something around if you don't want to run it? Debian > makes the (correct) assumption that if you've installed something, you > want to run it. If i install bind, it will assume i want it to run. I may want to look at the package's documentation, or use some tool that's no

Re: Many ports open by default

2001-04-30 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 07:37:21AM -0500, Warren A. Layton wrote: > On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 02:25:34AM -0400, Andres Salomon wrote: > > Why would you keep something around if you don't want to run it? Debian > > makes the (correct) assumption that if you've installed something, you > > want to run

Re: Many ports open by default

2001-04-30 Thread Dwayne C. Litzenberger
I'm not suggesting we "ruin" anything. exit 0 isn't the only way to disable something by default. My main concern is of security. I know a newbie who installed Debian recently, and he has something like 15 open ports, which wouldn't be a problem except for the history of these daemons to have ro

Re: FWD: Popularity-contest submission doesn't go through to apenwarr-survey@klecker.debain.org

2001-04-30 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 10:51:07AM +0200, Matthijs Melchior wrote: > > > Received: from myhostname.my.isp.com ([EMAIL PROTECTED] [127.0.0.1]) > > > by localhost (8.12.0.Beta7/8.12.0.Beta7/Debian 8.12.0.Beta7-1) with > > > ESMTP id f3QDlYZ2018784 > > > for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 26 Apr 200

Re: Many ports open by default

2001-04-30 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 07:37:21AM -0500, Warren A. Layton wrote: > > Why would you keep something around if you don't want to run it? Debian > > makes the (correct) assumption that if you've installed something, you > > want to run it. If i install bind, it will assume i want it to run. > > We

Re: Many ports open by default

2001-04-30 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 02:25:34AM -0400, Andres Salomon wrote: > The question you should be asking is, why is portmap installed by default? Fortunately, nowadays it can be removed since it's no longer part of netbase. -- Digital Electronic Being Intended for Assassination and Nullification

Re: FWD: Popularity-contest submission doesn't go through to apenwarr-survey@klecker.debain.org

2001-04-30 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Matthijs Melchior wrote: > > Here it's addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] So I would assume > > that something on myhostname.my.isp.com is rewriting the email > > @debian.org to @klecker.debian.org. And I don't think that this > > localpart apenwarr-survey is available in the sub-

Re: Local Sid/unstable repository.

2001-04-30 Thread PiotR
On Sat, Apr 28, 2001 at 07:11:35AM -0400, David B . Harris wrote: > Hello there :) I'm looking to set up a local Debian mirror(for private > LAN only, until we get more bandwidth), but only of the Sid/i386 > distribution. Now, anonftpsync seems pretty good, but I can't get it to > work properly. I'

Re: Proposing task-debian

2001-04-30 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 08:34:04AM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: > Joey> If these tools become widly enough accepted that we think > Joey> everyone should have them available by default, we can make > Joey> them standard priority. > > In the new universe (debbootstrap, tasksel, etc) where

Re: libdb3.so and libdb-3.so

2001-04-30 Thread Ben Collins
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 12:27:56PM +0900, GOTO Masanori wrote: > Hi, > > I wonder why libdb3 package includes > /usr/lib/libdb3.so.3.0.2 , > /usr/lib/libdb-3.so , > however libdb3-dev package includes > /usr/lib/libdb3.so . That .so is not a link name. It is only there so that

Re: Proposing task-debian

2001-04-30 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 08:34:04AM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: > > "Joey" == Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In the new universe (debbootstrap, tasksel, etc) where a user might > never run dselect, what makes sure that in the default configuration, > standard priority packages get install

Re: (OT) Storage (8*IDE HDs) any experiences?

2001-04-30 Thread PiotR
On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 10:14:35AM +0200, Russell Coker wrote: > On Sunday 29 April 2001 06:48, Brandon High wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 28, 2001 at 11:50:26PM +0200, Andreas Bombe wrote: > > > The IBM SCSI disk I have here has a jumper to delay spin up depending on > > > SCSI ID so that an array of tho

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-30 Thread Craig Sanders
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 12:41:22PM +0200, Torsten Landschoff wrote: > On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 05:19:12PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: > > anyone running SMP ought to have enough of a clue to compile their > > own kernel. > > This is the point where I disagree. I really hate having to build my > own

Re: Many ports open by default

2001-04-30 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 10:29:58PM -0600, Dwayne C. Litzenberger wrote: > I suspect it's already been discussed before, so I'll ask instead of > flaming. (See! I can learn!) many times before. > Why does a server automatically get run just because it's installed? because if you didn't want it

Re: Many ports open by default

2001-04-30 Thread Craig Sanders
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 02:25:34AM -0400, Andres Salomon wrote: > If there's nothing that depends on portmap, then default to not > installing portmap. speaking of portmap, debian's portmap is not an insecure thing to run by default because it is compiled with tcp-wrappers support and rejects all

Re: Many ports open by default

2001-04-30 Thread Craig Sanders
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 07:37:21AM -0500, Warren A. Layton wrote: > Well, not everyone that installs ssh wants to run the server (some may > just want to use the client to connect to other machines). This is > just one example; I'm sure that there are many more. that means either: 1. ssh and sshd

Re: postgresql and libssl - Bug#95146

2001-04-30 Thread PiotR
On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 09:13:49PM +0100, Oliver Elphick wrote: > I have to reiterate a query about what to do with postgresql in view of its > now being linked with libssl. > > Since this question is currently being referred to legal advice, do you > want me to move postgresql into non-us, which

Re: Many ports open by default

2001-04-30 Thread Frederico Muñoz
Warren A. Layton wrote: On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 02:25:34AM -0400, Andres Salomon wrote: Why would you keep something around if you don't want to run it? Debian makes the (correct) assumption that if you've installed something, you want to run it. If i install bind, it will assume i want it to ru

Re: X-Medium in /var/lib/dpkg/available

2001-04-30 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Nils Rennebarth wrote: > Short problem description: > dpkg complains about wrong syntax in /var/lib/dpkg/available, and in > fact there are a lot of package descriptions where the last line > read something like (from memory) Already fixed in dpkg 1.9.1, which will hit the mirroors in a

Re: libdb3.so and libdb-3.so

2001-04-30 Thread GOTO Masanori
At Mon, 30 Apr 2001 10:04:48 -0400, Ben Collins wrote: > > I wonder why libdb3 package includes > > /usr/lib/libdb3.so.3.0.2 , > > /usr/lib/libdb-3.so , > > however libdb3-dev package includes > > /usr/lib/libdb3.so . > > That .so is not a link name. It is only there so that things co

Re: libdb3.so and libdb-3.so

2001-04-30 Thread Ben Collins
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 11:51:55PM +0900, GOTO Masanori wrote: > > I cannot find out why `libdb-3' is used and spreaded over the gnome > packages. Naming soname is sensitive issue, IMHO. > As I said the *upstream* soname is libdb-3.so, and Debian's soname is libdb3.so.3. The former is not very c

Re: Gnome bug 94684

2001-04-30 Thread Jules Bean
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 07:04:52PM +0200, Christian Marillat wrote: > "CW" == Colin Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > CW> Jules Bean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Programs shouldn't gratuitously break configurations which worked. > >> When woody is released, and people upgrade en mas

Re: Many ports open by default

2001-04-30 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 12:22:47AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: > On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 10:29:58PM -0600, Dwayne C. Litzenberger wrote: > > Why does a server automatically get run just because it's installed? > > because if you didn't want it to run, you wouldn't have installed it. As always, th

Re: Proposing task-debian

2001-04-30 Thread John Hasler
Anthony Towns writes: > ...what would people think of making a task-emacs and moving both tetex > and emacs out from standard? As an emacs user I think this is an excellent idea, but I worry that such stretching of the definition of "task" may confuse users. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Danci

Re: Bug#95818: libpgsql2.1: should not depend on ident-server

2001-04-30 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Oliver Elphick wrote: > Robert Bihlmeyer wrote: > >Package: libpgsql2.1 > >Version: 7.1release-2 > >Severity: normal > >identds are considered mild privacy/security risks, therefore I don't > >think libpgsql2.1 and postgresql-client[1] should depend on > >ident-se

Re: libdb3.so and libdb-3.so

2001-04-30 Thread Christian Marillat
"GM" == GOTO Masanori <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: It is possible to stop all Cc ? Christian

Re: libdb3.so and libdb-3.so

2001-04-30 Thread GOTO Masanori
At Mon, 30 Apr 2001 10:59:24 -0400, Ben Collins wrote: > > I cannot find out why `libdb-3' is used and spreaded over the gnome > > packages. Naming soname is sensitive issue, IMHO. > > As I said the *upstream* soname is libdb-3.so, and Debian's soname is > libdb3.so.3. The former is not very confo

Re: Many ports open by default

2001-04-30 Thread Warren A. Layton
On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 12:28:49AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: > 1. ssh and sshd should be split into separate packages. if it bothers you > enough, file a bug report. i'm happy with the way it is. > > or > > 2. the handful of people who want the ssh client but not the ssh daemon > can learn h

Re: Gnome bug 94684

2001-04-30 Thread Christian Marillat
"JB" == Jules Bean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] >> Ha, somebody understand me :) JB> In which case, it's perfectly reasonable to just leave the bug open JB> and not fix it. But don't close it. And do forward it upstream. Already done. Christian

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-30 Thread james
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 12:41:22PM +0200, Torsten Landschoff wrote: > This is the point where I disagree. I really hate having to build my > own kernel just to do some tests with a fresh installation. I think > the standard kernel should support SMP. I don't know if it causes > any problems with UP

Re: libdb3.so and libdb-3.so

2001-04-30 Thread Ben Collins
On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 12:27:38AM +0900, GOTO Masanori wrote: > At Mon, 30 Apr 2001 10:59:24 -0400, > Ben Collins wrote: > > > I cannot find out why `libdb-3' is used and spreaded over the gnome > > > packages. Naming soname is sensitive issue, IMHO. > > > > As I said the *upstream* soname is lib

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Re: FWD: Popularity-contest submission doesn't go through to apenwarr-survey@klecker.debain.org

2001-04-30 Thread Christian Kurz
On 01-04-30 Matthijs Melchior wrote: > Christian Kurz wrote: > > On 01-04-29 Joey Hess wrote: > > > Anyone have a clue? > > > Received: from myhostname.my.isp.com ([EMAIL PROTECTED] [127.0.0.1]) > > > by localhost (8.12.0.Beta7/8.12.0.Beta7/Debian 8.12.0.Beta7-1) with > > > +ESMTP id f3QDlYZ

Re: (OT) Storage (8*IDE HDs) any experiences?

2001-04-30 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 09:01:16AM +1000, Brian May wrote: ... > I would assume (hope!) the original poster plans to run both power > supplies from the same central switch, in order to minimise problems > here. OP doesn't plan to run anything. OP informed Powers That Be of the options and is waiti

Re: Proposing task-debian

2001-04-30 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sat, Apr 28, 2001 at 10:55:22PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Christian Hammers wrote: > > Would it be good to have a package task-debian that had dependencies to such > > "meta" packages (including the latest version of apt,debconf and dpkg) to > > ensure that users always get the latest Debian "

Re: Bug#95818: libpgsql2.1: should not depend on ident-server

2001-04-30 Thread Oliver Elphick
Steve Langasek wrote: >> In case anyone should ask why the server cannot authenticate directly, >> communication between front- and back-ends is done through a Unix socket >> and therefore it is not possible for the back-end to know the identity >> of the user at the front-end. The only op

Re: Bug#95818: libpgsql2.1: should not depend on ident-server

2001-04-30 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
"Oliver Elphick" writes: > It is indeed the case that ident is needed to allow local access without > a password. I understand that this presents a small security risk on the > server. I think README.Debian or somesuch should tell why ident is necessary, and perhaps also how one can restrict id

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Re: debbugs can now send bug mails to someone different than the maintainer

2001-04-30 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 10:51:45PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: > On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 02:36:21AM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > > > Unless, of course, you can do your filtering on the mail server, as I do. > > and how many isps allow this? Some IMAP servers support server-side filtering, wh

Re: FWD: Popularity-contest submission doesn't go through to apenwarr-survey@klecker.debain.org

2001-04-30 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 05:05:20PM +0200, Christian Kurz wrote: > > $ host -v -t MX -A debian.org > > Query about debian.org for record types MX > > Found 1 address for debian.org > > Checking debian.org address 198.186.203.20 > > !!! debian.org address 198.186.203.20 maps to klecker.debian.org >

Re: Bug#95818: libpgsql2.1: should not depend on ident-server

2001-04-30 Thread Oliver Elphick
Robert Bihlmeyer wrote: >That's not true for Linux 2.[24].x at least. One can use >getsockopt(..., SO_PEERCRED, ...) to get the uid of the other end. > >It would be nice if you could request that as an upstream feature. The upstream developers are not friendly to non-portable features; I

package servers inconsistent?

2001-04-30 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi folks, Is it possible to keep an eye upon package consistency on the hosts 'http.us.debian.org'? Each time I run 'apt-get update', some of the package lists on my machine seem to be outdated, even if the last update has been done just a few jiffies ago. But usually the following 'apt-get ugrad

Re: Bug#95818: libpgsql2.1: should not depend on ident-server

2001-04-30 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Oliver Elphick wrote: >>This works for Unix sockets under Linux 2.2 and Linux 2.4, at least. I don't >>know how portable the interface is beyond that, and lack of portability might >>prevent upstream from adopting it. It would be interesting to see this as an >>option for De

Re: Bug#95430 acknowledged by developer (Re: Bug#95430: ash: word-splitting changes break shell scripts)

2001-04-30 Thread Zack Weinberg
reopen 95420 quit ... > On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 12:22:18AM -0700, Zack Weinberg wrote: > > > > ash 0.3.8-1 incorporates changes in word splitting which break common > > shell scripts, such as /usr/bin/mktexpk and the 'mklibgcc' script used > > when compiling GCC. > > > > #! /bin/ash > > OIFS=$IF

Re: Many ports open by default

2001-04-30 Thread Wolfgang Sourdeau
> As always, that would be true if they weren't installed by default. The > current method requires too much prior knowledge. This could be put as a question whenever someone installs Debian GNU/Linux. Something like "Do you want to enable the installed server software by default. Beware that this

ITP: ardour -- professional multitrack audio editing tool

2001-04-30 Thread ericvb
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist a "professional" multitrack multichannel audio recorder and DAW using ALSA-supported audio interfaces. Supports up to 32-bit samples, 24+ channels at up to 96 kHz, non-destructive, non-linear editing. Licence is GPL. http://ardour.sourceforge.net -- Eric VAN BU

Re: Many ports open by default

2001-04-30 Thread mdanish
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 02:25:34AM -0400, Andres Salomon wrote: > Why would you keep something around if you don't want to run it? Debian > makes the (correct) assumption that if you've installed something, you > want to run it. If i install bind, it will assume i want it to run. If > i install

Re: Keysigning request in New York City

2001-04-30 Thread Jimmy Kaplowitz
I don't think I'll need it - Dave Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and Itai Zukerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> both seem to be able and willing to sign my key. If that fails for some reason, I'll contact you, but don't plan on it. Thanks very much for the offer though. - Jimmy Kaplowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Re: Many ports open by default

2001-04-30 Thread Will Lowe
> Actually there are some packages that depend on a mail-transport-agent, > (such as lilo->logrotate->mailx), yet one may not want to have an MTA > running on certain systems. I suppose a dummy or minimal MTA may be I think it's safe to assume that your system MUST have a working MTA of some sort

Re: debbugs can now send bug mails to someone different than the maintainer

2001-04-30 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 04:25:16AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have just added support to debbugs in cvs, and on master, so that the > maintainer address for a package can be overriden. This allows the real > maintainer to be someone different than the person or list that gets the bugs. >

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-30 Thread Christopher C. Chimelis
On Mon, 30 Apr 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Unfortunately it seems that a kernel that supports both i386 and SMP > would have to use very slow methods for locking since instructions > allowing faster locking only came in with the 486 and above. I'm wondering when this whole discussion will in

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-30 Thread Scott Dier
* Daniel Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010424 07:03]: > ONE HUNDRED AND TEN MEGABYTES PER KERNEL RELEASE DOES NOT HELP MIRRORS WHICH > HAVE > OUT OF SYNC PACKAGES FILES AND ACTUAL PACKAGES HALF THE TIME. Being a maint. of two debian mirrors, I don't get your point. :) Could you please turn this in

looking for missing mail

2001-04-30 Thread Filip Van Raemdonck
Hi, Due to dissappearance of my mail provider I have missed the mail from this list from friday til sunday (until I resubscribed with another address). I'd be very thankfull if someone could send me a file with the missing mails. For mutt users I can even tell how to do this; in the index view t

Re: Many ports open by default

2001-04-30 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 12:22:47AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: > On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 10:29:58PM -0600, Dwayne C. Litzenberger wrote: > > I suspect it's already been discussed before, so I'll ask instead of > > flaming. (See! I can learn!) > > many times before. > > > Why does a server auto

Bug#95875: Package 'console-data' missing in woody

2001-04-30 Thread Michael Karcher
Package: general Version: N/A; reported 2001-04-30 Severity: important There is no package 'console-data' in the woody distribution. This means no keyboard except US is supported. The package 'console-data' from sid does work. -- System Information Debian Release: testing/unstable Architecture: i

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-30 Thread Vince Mulhollon
On 04/30/2001 03:21:55 PM "Christopher C. Chimelis" wrote: >> Basically, I can understand everyone's desires for a kernel that covers >> their cases (SMP, UP, 686, 386, etc), but the bloat issue that initially I can't understand that desire for such a small gain, but whatever. >> this thread ge

404's

2001-04-30 Thread Adam McKenna
It seems like an easy way to prevent the following would be to update the Packages.gz file LAST, after syncing up the other files, IE: rsync --exclude "Packages*" debian/pool rsync --delete debian/pool (If old packages are even deleted) --Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo apt-get upgrade Reading P

Re: debbugs can now send bug mails to someone different than the maintainer

2001-04-30 Thread Adam Heath
On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Julian Gilbey wrote: > On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 04:25:16AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I have just added support to debbugs in cvs, and on master, so that the > > maintainer address for a package can be overriden. This allows the real > > maintainer to be someone diffe

Re: Proposing task-debian

2001-04-30 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 10:03:49AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Anthony Towns writes: > > ...what would people think of making a task-emacs and moving both tetex > > and emacs out from standard? > > As an emacs user I think this is an excellent idea, but I worry that > such stretching of the defin

Processed: RE: Bug#95875: Package 'console-data' missing in woody

2001-04-30 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > reassign 95875 console-data Bug#95875: Package 'console-data' missing in woody Bug reassigned from package `general' to `console-data'. > thanks Stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need assistance. Darren Benham (administrator, Debian

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

2001-04-30 Thread Paul Martin
On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 05:39:34PM +0200, Kenneth Vestergaard Schmidt wrote: > If instead, you were able to type something akin to "update-kernel" or > whatever, and then have a kernel built suited to your arch, but with the > "default" Debian-options (ie. lotsa modules), wouldn't that be better?

latex2html/netpbm/undefined symbol: pm_optParseOptions2

2001-04-30 Thread Thomas R. Shemanske
I have a production machine which was 95% potato. I had to update the libc6 libraries to install a couple of woody packages which were needed by others. I found today that latex2html was broken. The error I am trying to track down is: /usr/bin/pnmcrop: error while loading shared libraries:

Re: Bug#95430 acknowledged by developer (Re: Bug#95430: ash: word-splitting changes break shell scripts)

2001-04-30 Thread Herbert Xu
Zack Weinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 12:22:18AM -0700, Zack Weinberg wrote: >> > >> > ash 0.3.8-1 incorporates changes in word splitting which break common >> > shell scripts, such as /usr/bin/mktexpk and the 'mklibgcc' script used >> > when compiling GCC. >> > >> >

Perl module location

2001-04-30 Thread Julian Gilbey
(The following is based on the information in the Contents-i386 file on ftp-master.) I just filed bugs on about 5 packages which install Perl modules into /usr/share/perl/5.6.0 against the perl policy. But then I checked to see if there are any packages installing into /usr/lib/perl/5.6.0, and I

Re: package servers inconsistent?

2001-04-30 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 08:50:06PM +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote: > Is it possible to keep an eye upon package consistency on the > hosts 'http.us.debian.org'? > > Each time I run 'apt-get update', some of the package lists on my > machine seem to be outdated, even if the last update has been done >

Re: Proposing task-debian

2001-04-30 Thread John Hasler
Matt Zimmerman writes: > I think Emacs as a task makes good sense. I think getting it out of standard makes good sense, but I'm not convinced that it makes sense as a "task". -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin

Re: debbugs can now send bug mails to someone different than the maintainer

2001-04-30 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 05:35:54AM -0500, Adam Heath wrote: > > I've got another request, but I reckon it's a katie one: it would be > > really nice if the Maintainer could be a mailing list (eg, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]) and that katie would recognise one of a small > > list of names and emails for t

Re: Bug#95430 acknowledged by developer (Re: Bug#95430: ash: word-splitting changes break shell scripts)

2001-04-30 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 12:16:16PM -0700, Zack Weinberg wrote: > [whose words are these? unattributed in your mail] > > Sorry, but this is broken. This assumes that IFS is set to begin with > > which may not be the case. > > I have consulted the Single Unix Standard and can find only dubious > j

Re: debbugs can now send bug mails to someone different than the maintainer

2001-04-30 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Julian Gilbey wrote: > But I'm *not* the maintainer; I'm one of a group of maintainers. If > we do this, then every time one of us uploads, we need to change the > maintainer name in the control file. You needed to do that anyway. The problem you have is that dinstall has no way to fig

problems with atari800

2001-04-30 Thread Dale Scheetz
I've been working on getting the newest atari800 code to build for Debian, and I've run into some problems. (Well, yes, I'm having some compilation problems as well, but this isn't about those...) There are several sites that are pretty critical to the proper opperation of this package that I can'

Re: Proposing task-debian

2001-04-30 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 04:36:14PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Matt Zimmerman writes: > > I think Emacs as a task makes good sense. > > I think getting it out of standard makes good sense, but I'm not convinced > that it makes sense as a "task". I think it makes as much sense as the existing tas

Re: Bug#95430 acknowledged by developer (Re: Bug#95430: ash: word-splitting changes break shell scripts)

2001-04-30 Thread Herbert Xu
Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Of course, it seems that this behavior is different from that of traditional > Bourne shell implementations, so I think I have to agree that ash should avoid > diverging from tradition in order to adhere to a relatively new standard. I will probably cha

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