Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat breaks module builders

On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 10:57:18AM -0500, Adam Heath wrote: > On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, Daniel Stone wrote: > > > > Who says you have to compile debian packages on only machines you own? > > > > So tell elmo to get me through, and not, not do anything for 2 months. The > > only other faster machines I

Packages not making it into testing

Hello world, The following packages haven't been uploaded this year, and also haven't made it into testing for a while. If people could go through and make sure the maintainer knows about the issues, or do NMUs as appropriate, or work out what the problem actually is, or similar, that'd be pretty

Re: console in testing

On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 11:54:23AM -0500, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: > what's the story with console packages in testing? I see > console-tools and console-utilities that conflict with each other, > console-common that replaces console-data... and there's nothing > in my /usr/share/keymaps so I can't ch

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 10:31:46AM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: > On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 05:26:27PM -0700, Aaron Lehmann wrote: > > Ok, so why did this come up at all in the discussion of the kernel > > package bloat? It seems to me that providing optimized kernels is a > > Because someone asked why t

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 04:28:30PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: > On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 10:31:46AM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: > > > > Because someone asked why the kernel-headers necessary. Their > > presence allows both our module maintainers and other maintainers > > to compile modules easily. I

sendmail problems'

I've installed sendmail 8.11.3+8.12.0.Beta7-3, and I notice some little problems that make impossible sending mail ;-) When I try to mail anything, I receive from my mua this error messages from sendmail: /etc/mail/submit.cf: line 1: invalid argument to V line: "ERSIONID(^AId: submit" /etc/mail/su

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 04:56:19PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: > > a person/company producing a binary kernel module is FAR more likely to > > create one for debian if they only have to create one module, rather > > than a dozen or so. > > There two discussions here: > > 1. The number of kernel fla

Re: Packages not making it into testing

>+ libch uploaded 288 days ago, out of date by 278 days! > m68k package depends on libmysqlclient9, needs to be rebuilt against > libmysqlclient10, presumably It needs the build dependencies updating too, see #93850 (which has been closed but I think is still applicable). p.

Re: Packages not making it into testing

On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 03:53:15PM +1000 , Anthony Towns wrote: > Hello world, > + mysql-gpl uploaded 307 days ago, out of date by 297 days! > has an RC bug related to php4-mysql in testing (although php4-mysql > isn't in testing..) is mysql-gpl really still needed? shouldn't it be re

Re: Packages not making it into testing

On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 10:33:46AM +0200, Petr Cech wrote: > > + xcdroast uploaded 152 days ago, out of date by 142 days! > > gtk/setgid problems, see 92230 etc > > that's new change in gtk 1.2.9 to disallow suid applications, which I find > silly Why does xcdroast need to be setgid? I think

Re: Packages not making it into testing

Previously Petr Cech wrote: > that's new change in gtk 1.2.9 to disallow suid applications, which I find > silly It's not silly, it is an extremely good idea. I'm very pleasantly surprised to hear that they did that. It is basically not possible to write safe suid X programs. Wichert. -- __

Re: Packages not making it into testing

On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 11:03:41AM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > It's not silly, it is an extremely good idea. I'm very pleasantly > surprised to hear that they did that. It is basically not possible to > write safe suid X programs. IIRC it also disallows SGID, which breaks some games that onl

Intent to package intel-rng-tools.

Hi, I am working on packaging intel-rng-tools. It is the daemon to utilise the RNG on i810 boards. Let me know if anyone is working on this. I shall otherwise upload it tonight. Please cc me replies, as I'm not on the list. viral -- And then one day you find ten years have got behind you. No o

Re: Packages not making it into testing

Anthony Towns wrote: >The following packages haven't been uploaded this year, and also haven't >made it into testing for a while. If people could go through and make >sure the maintainer knows about the issues, or do NMUs as appropriate, or >work out what the problem actually is, or similar, that'

Re: Packages not making it into testing

On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 10:24:38AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > Incidentally, could I request one change to the format of > update_output.txt that would make problems in testing easier to debug > (unless there's some other set of information I don't know about)? I'd > like to see the reports of uni

[Roland Mas ] ITP: elite-el -- A port of the Elite game to Emacs

Call me stupid, I forgot to Cc: the list. Here we go. Head for the stars... pgpEDjQ7TeBfr.pgp Description: PGP signature --- Begin Message --- Package: wnpp Version: N/A; reported 2001-04-25 Severity: wishlist I intend to package Elite for Emacs. The website is located at

Re: Packages not making it into testing

* Anthony Towns | + xitalk uploaded 397 days ago, out of date by 387 days! | xitalk on arm needs to be rebuilt against X4 Also missing standards-version !? (bug filed) Anyhow, rebuilt and uploaded on arm. | + xacc uploaded 397 days ago, out of date by 387 days! | xacc on arm, power

Debian LDAP Schema

Wichert, some time ago you were talking about the possibility of getting an ISO number assigned to Debian so we can create our own official LDAP schema. Has there been any progress on this issue? If not then what has to be done? I would like to see the allowedServices and deniedServices attrib

Re: Debian LDAP Schema

Previously Russell Coker wrote: > Wichert, some time ago you were talking about the possibility of getting an > ISO number assigned to Debian so we can create our own official LDAP schema. > Has there been any progress on this issue? If not then what has to be done? I'm waiting for confirmatio

ITA: starplot

Hello all, I intend to adopt starplot. Package: starplot Version: 0.92pre-2 Section: math Priority: optional Architecture: i386 Depends: libc6 (>= 2.1.2), libglib1.2 (>= 1.2.0), libgtk1.2 (>= 1.2.7-1), libstdc++2.10, xlib6g (>= 3.3.6-4) Suggests: starplot-data Installed-Size: 620 Ma

Re: Packages not making it into testing

Previously Aaron Lehmann wrote: > IIRC it also disallows SGID, which breaks some games that only want to > write to hi-score files. Guess that will force them to get a clue and write a sgid helper then. Wichert. -- / Generally

[is this a faq?] How to build on .d.o machines

Hi, Sorry if this is a FAQ, in that case please help me with some pointer. Otherwise, here we go: I was sometime trying to build a package on a big endian machine (I have only intel at home). So I used one of the .d.o big endian machine and the unstable chroot. There is the build-essential inst

Re: Where does iswedish come from?

Peter Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Get the latest from http://sv.speling.org/filer/ispell-sv-1.3.2.tar.gz $ls ispell-sv-1.3.2 COPYINGMakefile contributors words-sv.ispell Copyright READMEsvenska.aff $ls swedish-1.3/ Adjektiv.j/ Fackspråk.j/ Namn.n/Verb.n/

gnapster packages for potato

Hi all, I've gotten a few comments, emails, and even a bug report about the gnapster packages in potato. Specifically, 1.3-5 doesn't support connections to the official servers (not that they're terribly useful anymore), and in general just kinda sucks. But, "just kinda sucking" doesn't really mak

2.4.x Kernel, ECN And Problem Websites

Herbert, Are you aware that the enabling ECN in the 2.4.x kernels is causing some heartache and isn't recommended in the kernel docs. It is also a difficult problem to diagnose as some sites work and others don't. A number of large sites are uncontactable (news-server.vic.bigpond.net.au, Eve

Re: Debian LDAP Schema

On Wednesday 25 April 2001 12:45, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > a message of 35 lines which said: > > Wichert, some time ago you were talking about the possibility of getting > > an ISO number assigned to Debian so we can create our own official LDAP > > schema. Has there been any progress on this

Re: 2.4.x Kernel, ECN And Problem Websites

On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 09:21:36PM +1000, Mark Purcell wrote: > > One of the comments on /. also states; > > " If you find ECN enabled in your distributor's 2.4.x kernel > package by default, please consider this a severe mistake on > your distributor's part." That's the wrong solution. It pr

Re: 2.4.x Kernel, ECN And Problem Websites

Previously Herbert Xu wrote: > That's the wrong solution. It prevents people who want to use ECN from > using it. The correct solution is to disable it in /etc/sysctl.conf. > However, I just had a look, and sysctl.conf is in procps which isn't > essential. So we may need to move this functionali

Re: 2.4.x Kernel, ECN And Problem Websites

On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 09:28:22PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: > On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 09:21:36PM +1000, Mark Purcell wrote: > > > > One of the comments on /. also states; > > > > " If you find ECN enabled in your distributor's 2.4.x kernel > > package by default, please consider this a severe mi

Re: 2.4.x Kernel, ECN And Problem Websites

Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Previously Herbert Xu wrote: >> That's the wrong solution. It prevents people who want to use ECN from >> using it. The correct solution is to disable it in /etc/sysctl.conf. >> However, I just had a look, and sysctl.conf is in procps which isn't >> e

ITP: filetraq -- Small utility to keep track of changes in config files

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist URL: http://filetraq.xidus.net License: GPL Description: FileTraq is just a shell script that reads a list of files to watch, runs diff against each file and its backup, and reports any discrepancies, along with keeping a dated backup of the original. It'

Re: Packages not making it into testing

+ atari800 uploaded 125 days ago, out of date by 115 days! depends on svgalibg1 on m68k; svgalib isn't supported on anything but i386 (aiui) I've been working on the newest upstream source for this package for several weeks (actual working time is much smaller ;-) and will have so

ITP: cgvg -- command-line source browsing tool

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist URL: http://uzix.org/cgvg.html License: GPL Description: cgvg is a pair of Perl scripts ("cg" and "vg") which are meant to assist a programmer in doing command-line source browsing. The idea is you can easily search for keywords in the code, and jump to the

Re: 2.4.x Kernel, ECN And Problem Websites

Previously Daniel Stone wrote: > Why enable ECN at all, if all it effectively does is break stuff? AFAIK, > there's no systems out "in the wild" that actually use ECN to make a > difference. All that's happening is that peoples' systems are being broken. > Which is sub-optimal. With that attitude

Re: 2.4.x Kernel, ECN And Problem Websites

On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, Herbert Xu wrote: > Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Previously Herbert Xu wrote: > >> That's the wrong solution. It prevents people who want to use ECN from > >> using it. The correct solution is to disable it in /etc/sysctl.conf. > >> However, I just had a l

Re: 2.4.x Kernel, ECN And Problem Websites

On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 02:13:49PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > Does "this functionality" mean disabling ECN or sysctl.conf? The former. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbe

Re: 2.4.x Kernel, ECN And Problem Websites

On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 01:52:09PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Previously Daniel Stone wrote: > > Why enable ECN at all, if all it effectively does is break stuff? AFAIK, > > there's no systems out "in the wild" that actually use ECN to make a > > difference. All that's happening is that peopl

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, Herbert Xu wrote: > There two discussions here: > > 1. The number of kernel flavours. > 2. The need for kernel-headers for each flavour. > > I was talking about 2. > The whole purpose of kernel-headers is to provide one, most stable, kernel interface for the distro to build

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 08:18:00AM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote: > > The whole purpose of kernel-headers is to provide one, most stable, kernel > interface for the distro to build against. The idea was that, by choosing > the kernel to compile against you have the best chance of things working > corr

Re: 2.4.x Kernel, ECN And Problem Websites

On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 09:52:39PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: > Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Previously Herbert Xu wrote: > >> That's the wrong solution. It prevents people who want to use ECN from > >> using it. The correct solution is to disable it in /etc/sysctl.conf. > >> How

Re: Packages not making it into testing

On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, Petr Cech wrote: > On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 03:53:15PM +1000 , Anthony Towns wrote: > > Hello world, > > + netscape4.7 uploaded 125 days ago, out of date by 115 days! > > depends on X3 libs, should remove? > > yes, iff it's not needed for !=i386 It is for powerpc - the l

Re: 2.4.x Kernel, ECN And Problem Websites

On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 09:52:39PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: > Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Previously Herbert Xu wrote: > >> That's the wrong solution. It prevents people who want to use ECN from > >> using it. The correct solution is to disable it in /etc/sysctl.conf. > >> How

Re: NMUers: STOP BEING STUPID

On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 10:05:00AM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: > Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I shouldn't have to add my name to the list of maintainers whose > > > packages should never be NMUd. > > IS there such a list? I don't think there should be. > Yes: > http://bugs.d

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, Herbert Xu wrote: > On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 08:18:00AM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote: > > > > The whole purpose of kernel-headers is to provide one, most stable, kernel > > interface for the distro to build against. The idea was that, by choosing > > the kernel to compile against

Re: Packages not making it into testing

Previously Dale Scheetz wrote: > I'm not sure what the solution is for m68k... Simply use an Architecture line that does not include m68k. Wichert. -- / Generally uninteresting signature - ignore at your convenience \ | [EMAI

Re: 2.4.x Kernel, ECN And Problem Websites

Previously Daniel Stone wrote: > No way should we be pushing ECN to the masses. It should stay in the domain > of people like DaveM, until routers get fixed. The same DaveM who said he would enable ECN on vger to force people who want to subscribe to lkml to fix their equipment? Wichert. --

Re: Debian LDAP Schema

On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 01:23:35PM +0200, Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote a message of 81 lines which said: > How about the following as a start: Thanks! > Is this the right list for such things? Is there a more appropriate list? There is apparently no debian-ldap (it might be usef

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 08:54:33AM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote: > On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, Herbert Xu wrote: > > > That is the raison d'etre for kernel-headers. However, the new per-image > > kernel-headers exist solely for the benefit of module builders. > > Then you break things for no good reason.

Re: Packages not making it into testing

On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 03:53:15PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > The following packages haven't been uploaded this year, and also haven't > made it into testing for a while. If people could go through and make > sure the maintainer knows about the issues, or do NMUs as appropriate, or > work out wh

Re: 2.4.x Kernel, ECN And Problem Websites

On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 10:16:30PM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote: > > It may be a minor catch-22, but ECN is currently so broken, that only power > users should be using it, as the rest will just continue flooding the > netfilter list with "Netfilter breaks all my websites!". [OK, ECN isn't > broken,

Re: Packages not making it into testing

On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 03:46:55AM -0500, Rahul Jain wrote: > On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 10:33:46AM +0200, Petr Cech wrote: > > > + xcdroast uploaded 152 days ago, out of date by 142 days! > > > gtk/setgid problems, see 92230 etc > > > > that's new change in gtk 1.2.9 to disallow suid applications,

Bug#95209: ITP: ipcheck - dnydns.org client to register dynamic IP address

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist URL: http://ipcheck.sourceforge.net License: GPL Description: This package provides an update service for the Free dynamic DNS hosting service at dyndns.org. Ipcheck.py is the only UNIX dyndns.org client rated at Compliant. The Debian ddclien

Re: 2.4.x Kernel, ECN And Problem Websites

On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 10:16:30PM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote: > On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 01:52:09PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > > Previously Daniel Stone wrote: > > > Why enable ECN at all, if all it effectively does is break stuff? AFAIK, > > > there's no systems out "in the wild" that actuall

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, Herbert Xu wrote: > On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 08:54:33AM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote: > > On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, Herbert Xu wrote: > > > > > That is the raison d'etre for kernel-headers. However, the new per-image > > > kernel-headers exist solely for the benefit of module builder

Re: Packages not making it into testing

On Apr 25, Anthony Towns wrote: >+ diablo uploaded 125 days ago, out of date by 115 days! > doesn't build on sparc, no bug filed It's an obsolete version which should be removed anyway. -- ciao, Marco

TkRat & encryption

I have just packaged tkrat, a tk based mail client that is able to sign, encrypt, etc. by using an external pgp/gpg program. The Debian Developer Reference (6.2.4) reads: Do not upload to ftp-master packages containing software that is export-controlled by the United States government, nor to t

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

Previously Dale Scheetz wrote: > Then you break things for no good reason. These "module builders" you > speak of should be using the same headers as glibc. Absolutely definitely not. Userland is different from kernelspace, and headers need not match at all. Feel free to search debian-devel or lin

Re: Packages not making it into testing

On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 11:57:50PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 03:46:55AM -0500, Rahul Jain wrote: > > Why does xcdroast need to be setgid? I think it's terrible to have any user > > able to burn or screw up a burn... why can't they use sudo or su? > > Doesn't the user h

Re: TkRat & encryption

On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 07:41:29AM -0700, Mattia Monga wrote: > I have just packaged tkrat, a tk based mail client that is able to > sign, encrypt, etc. by using an external pgp/gpg program. huh you are *years* to late: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ apt-cache show tkrat Package: tkrat Priority: optional S

Re: Packages not making it into testing

Previously Daniel Kobras wrote: > Isn't the xcdroast/cdrecord suid/sgid stuff about grabbing realtime > scheduling priority? You can't control this via group ownership. You could start a suid helper that passes you a new capability though. Wichert. --

Getting packages out?

Hi there, I have splitted the lids packages into two packages per version. One who includes the kernelpatch and one the admintool. My problem i now uploading themwould cause problems and work because there would be conflicts with the existing lidspackages. Is it possible to get fast _all_ lidspac

Re: NMUers: STOP BEING STUPID

> "Steve" == Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Steve> On 23-Apr-01, 18:52 (CDT), Sean 'Shaleh' Perry Steve> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> This would prevent the NMUers from doing things like >> debhelper/debconfizing packages without the maintainer's >> consent, a

Re: Packages not making it into testing

On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 03:22:36PM +0200, Gregor Hoffleit wrote: > Do I have to check all dependencies in all 54 python packages in the pool > (10 architectures, 4 arch-dependent packages, 4 arch-independent packages), > to see what's the reason that keeps the packages out of testing ? > All I can

Re: 2.4.x Kernel, ECN And Problem Websites

On Wednesday 25 April 2001 14:16, Daniel Stone wrote: > > > Why enable ECN at all, if all it effectively does is break stuff? > > > AFAIK, there's no systems out "in the wild" that actually use ECN to > > > make a difference. All that's happening is that peoples' systems are > > > being broken. Whi

Re: ITP: ttf-japanese-kandata

Hi! At Sat, 21 Apr 2001 23:07:42 +, Takashi Okamoto wrote: > Sure, but in the fact I judged by document in kandata distribution. > It says: > (kandata font is included various fonts) > -- > [Watanabe mincho] > > --- Watanabe font Copyright notice > > Undocumented. > > Bu

Re: Packages not making it into testing

On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 01:07:58AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: [...] > task-python-dev just depends on -imaging-tk. > > So this means python can't be updated without also updating palm-doctoolkit > and python-imaging, and those can't be updated without updating python. > > Further some of the bi

Re: ITP: ttf-japanese-kandata

On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 12:22:46AM +, Takashi Okamoto wrote: > I send mail to Kandata authors Mr. Wakaba and Mr. Uchida. > I confirmed above copyright is not accurate at following points: > > - Omega font haven't been used already (Mr. Uchida's said) > > - "Other part" (Kandata sp

Re: [is this a faq?] How to build on .d.o machines

On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 12:09:49PM +0200, Mikael Hedin wrote: > I was sometime trying to build a package on a big endian machine (I > have only intel at home). So I used one of the .d.o big endian > machine and the unstable chroot. There is the build-essential > installed IIRC. But for my compil

Re: 2.4.x Kernel, ECN And Problem Websites

On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 01:52:09PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Previously Daniel Stone wrote: > > Why enable ECN at all, if all it effectively does is break stuff? AFAIK, > > there's no systems out "in the wild" that actually use ECN to make a > > difference. All that's happening is that peopl

Re: Packages not making it into testing

Anthony Towns schrieb: > + libvoxel uploaded 357 days ago, out of date by 347 days! > has a year old "doesn't build" bug, 60985 I hacked at it at BSP#3, nothing depends on it, and the bug is _really_ obscure (that's not only me saying this). I asked the maintainer wheter it would be OK to re

Re: ALL: PARANOID from /etc/hosts.deny Should be Commented by default

Daniel Stone wrote: > Here's where theory and practice come into play. I only have a small chunk > of 203.36.158.* (113-127, afaik), so how can you DNS-delegate that? At > least, if there is a way, Telstra haven't figured it out yet. This is actually quite doable, you just need to have a clued isp

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Previously Dale Scheetz wrote: > > Then you break things for no good reason. These "module builders" you > > speak of should be using the same headers as glibc. > > Absolutely definitely not. Userland is different from kernelspace, > and headers need

Re: 2.4.x Kernel, ECN And Problem Websites

On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, Ben Collins wrote: > If we left everything to "you have to be smart enough", then let's just > leave out the entire linux kernel, most of the software in Debian, and > go for a minimum cygnus install. Let's just ditch all non-i386 > architectures. Hell, let's get rid of everyt

Re: 2.4.x Kernel, ECN And Problem Websites

On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 01:02:47AM -0500, Adam Heath wrote: > On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, Ben Collins wrote: > > > If we left everything to "you have to be smart enough", then let's just > > leave out the entire linux kernel, most of the software in Debian, and > > go for a minimum cygnus install. Let's

Re: ALL: PARANOID from /etc/hosts.deny Should be Commented by default

Another tighter configuration provided the provider is using atleast BIND8 is to add the following to their 158.36.203.IN-ADDR.ARPA zone $ORIGIN 158.36.203.IN-ADDR.ARPA. $GENERATE 113-127 $ CNAME $.113-127 $GENERATE 1-2 113-127 NS ns$.example.com. In this example the BIND8 server

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, Dale Scheetz wrote: > On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > > > Previously Dale Scheetz wrote: > > > Then you break things for no good reason. These "module builders" you > > > speak of should be using the same headers as glibc. > > > > Absolutely definitely not. User

Re: ALL: PARANOID from /etc/hosts.deny Should be Commented by default

* Joey Hess | Daniel Stone wrote: | > Here's where theory and practice come into play. I only have a small chunk | > of 203.36.158.* (113-127, afaik), so how can you DNS-delegate that? At | > least, if there is a way, Telstra haven't figured it out yet. | | This is actually quite doable, you jus

Re: Packages not making it into testing

On 25-Apr-2001 Aaron Lehmann wrote: > On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 11:03:41AM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: >> It's not silly, it is an extremely good idea. I'm very pleasantly >> surprised to hear that they did that. It is basically not possible to >> write safe suid X programs. > > IIRC it also di

Re: 2.4.x Kernel, ECN And Problem Websites

On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 01:02:47AM -0500, Adam Heath wrote: > mkfs doesn't fry harddrives, it fries data on harddrives. However, using > wrong video settings can actually destroy certain monitors. Would any of those monitors even work after you dug them up from the bottom of the dusty parts close

macdebian?

il y a-t-il une version de debian pour Mac?

Re: macdebian?

Oui, va voir : http://www.debian.org/ports/m68k/ http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/ David Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 10:06:49PM +0200 wrote: > il y a-t-il une version de debian pour Mac? > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EM

Re: console in testing

On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 03:55:54PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 11:54:23AM -0500, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: > > what's the story with console packages in testing? I see > > console-tools and console-utilities that conflict with each other, > > console-common that replaces conso

Re: Packages not making it into testing

On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 03:53:15PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > + locale-vi uploaded 202 days ago, out of date by 192 days! > + locale-zh uploaded 190 days ago, out of date by 188 days! > probably should be removed from the archive as of glibc 2.2.x > (conflicts with glibc > 2.1.94, ex

Re: kernel-{image,headers} package bloat

On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 01:16:51AM -0500, Adam Heath wrote: > A kernel-module must be built with the EXACT SAME environment as the kernel > being run. This means they need an EXACT match of headers. The ones that are > included with glibc are generic, and will NEVER match the running kernel(even

Proper Virtual Package Selection for Althea

Hi. I am a new package maintainer in charge of my first Debian package. The package, an email client named althea, has just been installed into unstable last night. It is an IMAP email client, but I don't believe it supports reading locally through the mbox format files in /var/spool/mail (which is

Bug#95245: ITP: hnb -- Hierarchical notebook

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Hierarchical notebook (hnb) is an ncurses program to organize many kinds of data in one place, for example addresses, todo lists, ideas, book reviews or to store snippets of brainstorming, to make a structured packing list or just to take random notes. It can expor

Re: console in testing

Dimitri Maziuk wrote: > > Hi all, > > what's the story with console packages in testing? I see > console-tools and console-utilities that conflict with each other, > console-common that replaces console-data... and there's nothing > in my /usr/share/keymaps so I can't check if loadkeys will fix >

Re: 2.4.x Kernel, ECN And Problem Websites

Quoting Daniel Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Why enable ECN at all, if all it effectively does is break stuff? AFAIK, > there's no systems out "in the wild" that actually use ECN to make a > difference. All that's happening is that peoples' systems are being > broken. > Which is sub-optimal. I wou

Re: NMUers: STOP BEING STUPID

* Mark Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20010425 13:32]: > It would be nice if this were more widely advertised (for example, it > doesn't appear to be linked from http://qa.debian.org/). Such a list fixed. -- Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: 2.4.x Kernel, ECN And Problem Websites

Quoting Daniel Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > [OK, ECN isn't > broken, the routers are, I know, but same effect. ECN breaks stuff]. No, you still are incorrect. The routers are already broken. Use of ECN merely exhibits evidence of the colossal brain-damage in the routers.

mailq & trusted user

With new sendmail 8.11.3+8.12.0.Beta7-3 executing 'mailq' answer me: can not chdir(/var/spool/mqueue/): Permission denied Program mode requires special privileges, e.g., root or TrustedUser. from this message it seems that adding the user to /etc/mail/trusted-users can solve the problem, bu

auditd as logrotate replacement?

Hi I got an offer from the friendly people at Core-SDI to make auditd (server part of theyer BSD licenced, in development, log management software) a full (read: better) replacement for logrotate. Will a package in non-US/main have any chance to be accepted as full replacement for logrotate? As I

Re: Proper Virtual Package Selection for Althea

Hi Jimmy! You wrote: > Please CC me in any replies, since I am at the moment not subscribed to > debian-devel. I intend to become a Debian developer, and then I will > subscribe, Please let me know when you apply, so I can advocate you. > but I don't have the time right now to remember how to

Re: 2.4.x Kernel, ECN And Problem Websites

On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 05:12:48PM +0200, Russell Coker wrote: > No. ECN should be compiled in to all kernels! The issue is whether the > sysctl is set to enable it by default or not. > > I think that we should all be using ECN and reporting the bugs to the people > who run the broken routers.

Re: 2.4.x Kernel, ECN And Problem Websites

On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 11:48:22AM -0700, Aaron Lehmann wrote: > Quoting Daniel Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Why enable ECN at all, if all it effectively does is break stuff? AFAIK, > > there's no systems out "in the wild" that actually use ECN to make a > > difference. All that's happening is

Re: 2.4.x Kernel, ECN And Problem Websites

On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 11:53:20AM -0700, Aaron Lehmann wrote: > Quoting Daniel Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > [OK, ECN isn't > > broken, the routers are, I know, but same effect. ECN breaks stuff]. > > No, you still are incorrect. The routers are already broken. Use of > ECN merely exhibits ev

Re: 2.4.x Kernel, ECN And Problem Websites

On Wednesday 25 April 2001 21:49, Daniel Stone wrote: > On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 05:12:48PM +0200, Russell Coker wrote: > > No. ECN should be compiled in to all kernels! The issue is whether the > > sysctl is set to enable it by default or not. > > > > I think that we should all be using ECN and r

Re: 2.4.x Kernel, ECN And Problem Websites

On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 09:53:13PM +0200, Russell Coker wrote: > On Wednesday 25 April 2001 21:49, Daniel Stone wrote: > > True, but often very little, if anything, gets done. about it; seeing as > > it's just a very small percentage of Linux users. A lot of people are in > > the production mentali

Re: Proper Virtual Package Selection for Althea

On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 09:48:24PM +0200, Bas Zoetekouw wrote: > Hi Jimmy! > > > > but I don't have the time right now to remember how to write a procmail > > recipe > > to filter out the list into a separate folder to prevent my inbox from > > getting > > too large. (Any help on this would be

RE: auditd as logrotate replacement?

On 25-Apr-2001 Arthur Korn wrote: > Hi > > I got an offer from the friendly people at Core-SDI to make > auditd (server part of theyer BSD licenced, in development, log > management software) a full (read: better) replacement for > logrotate. > > Will a package in non-US/main have any chance to

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