Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 12:41:24AM -0500, Adam McKenna wrote: > > as for including other's in the Mail-Followup-To mutt only does this > > if those users had used `lists' instead of `subscribe' indicating they > > WANT to be CCed. > > There must be a bug in it somewhere, then, because I often se

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, Craig Sanders wrote: > On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 09:53:04PM -0700, John Galt wrote: > > > > In fact, the only thing the RFC says to do is to honor Reply-To: > > > > headers, > > > > which I might note you didn't include in your message. > > > > > > Why should I, when it would b

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 09:07:27PM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote: > > have been added to Mail-Followup-To by other Mutt users, and I don't use > > the > > lists command at all. > > in that case there would be something funny going on, here is my > theory: > > you post to list, you M-F-To: is set to

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 01:18:40AM -0500, Adam McKenna wrote: > > if this is the case the solution is fixing broken mailers, many of > > them are Free software so why have patches to support M-F-To not been > > made? > > I'd like to see someone convince that M-F-To fix Pine. But I doubt you'll >

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 09:23:23PM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote: > On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 01:18:40AM -0500, Adam McKenna wrote: > > > if this is the case the solution is fixing broken mailers, many of > > > them are Free software so why have patches to support M-F-To not been > > > made? > > > > I'd

ITP: aterm -- an x terminal emulator

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Description: aterm is based upon rxvt v.2.4.8 with add ons of Alfredo Kojima's NeXT-ish scrollbars. Fast transparency functionality, background lightening/darkening or/and

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

> "Ethan" == Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ethan> pine is a lost cause anyway. i was thinking of GNUs which Ethan> seems to be the other big offender of ignorage of M-F-To. Ethan> (i am not sure if it respects Mail-Copies-To: never i just Ethan> started adding that.

Re: ITP: aterm -- an x terminal emulator

On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 01:27:13AM -0500, Chris Gray wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > > Description: Someone please close this bug once it gets a number from the BTS. Package: aterm Priority: optional Section: x11 Installed-Size: 308 Maintainer: Jor

Re: our broken man package

On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 03:23:03PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: > I'm concerned with some breakage in the man program. Here is an example: > [snip examples] > > This is because man runs via a wrapper that makes it run as user man > (and makes root's pager run as user man too for some reason). > > Rel

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 09:07:27PM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote: > in that case there would be something funny going on, here is my > theory: > > you post to list, you M-F-To: is set to only the list > > someone (Mr-Broken) with broken mailer uses reply-to-all which CCs you > anyway ignoring M-F-To.

Re: Rambling apt-get ideas

On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 11:11:01PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Why not look at this from a different perspective? I don't know if it may be > useful or not for upgrading machines, but the multicast server would be a > very nice thing for mass installations. I still disagree. Multicast is t

Re: need headers for target architecture: asm/unistd.h

On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 11:24:26PM +0100, Andreas Schuldei wrote: > I try to build a crosscompiler i386->arm (but also other archs). At one > point headerfiles for the target architecture are needed. Where could I find > headerfiles for other archs? Are there development packages for this purpose

Re: need headers for target architecture: asm/unistd.h

On Sat, Dec 30, 2000 at 12:39:58PM +0100, Andreas Schuldei wrote: > * Andreas Schuldei ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [001229 23:24]: > > I try to build a crosscompiler i386->arm (but also other archs). At one > > point headerfiles for the target architecture are needed. Where could I find > > headerfiles f

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 11:11:50PM -0700, John Galt wrote: > On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, Craig Sanders wrote: > > Mail-Followup-To is the correct header to use. > > Mail-Followup-To isn't even a registered header! The closest thing to a > registry that RFC822 implies is in the hands of SRI International

Re: our broken man package

Ethan Benson wrote: > the problem with this is you end up with the catman files owned by > whatever user reads whatever man page. personally as a sysadmin i > don't want users gaining write permission to files in any more places > under /var then there already is (ahem texmf). i am not certain if

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 11:15:23PM +0100, Sven Burgener wrote: > On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 05:23:55PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: > > the new 'testing' distribution (sid) should be even better - nearly > > all the benefits of 'unstable' but tested to at least install properly > > without error. > >

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 09:23:23PM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote: > btw is it Mail-Copies-To: never or Mail-Copies-To: nobody ? i have > seen both which is correct? (assuming any MUA actually pays any > attention to this header anyway) 'nobody' is correct. 'never' is deprecated but still observed b

Re: our broken man package

On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 11:53:37PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: > Ethan Benson wrote: > > the problem with this is you end up with the catman files owned by > > whatever user reads whatever man page. personally as a sysadmin i > > don't want users gaining write permission to files in any more places >

Re: DEBIAN IS LOOSING PACKAGES AND NOBODY CARES!!!

On Sun, Dec 31, 2000 at 01:09:07PM +, Oliver Elphick wrote: >Peter Palfrader wrote: > >> There is a further weird package disappearance in unstable: all mgetty > >> packages (execept mgetty-doc) are gone! [...] > >> Hey, these are important packages. >

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

>>"Ethan" == Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ethan> pine is a lost cause anyway. i was thinking of GNUs which Ethan> seems to be the other big offender of ignorage of M-F-To. (i Ethan> am not sure if it respects Mail-Copies-To: never i just Ethan> started adding that.) That

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, Craig Sanders wrote: > On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 11:11:50PM -0700, John Galt wrote: > > On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, Craig Sanders wrote: > > > Mail-Followup-To is the correct header to use. > > > > Mail-Followup-To isn't even a registered header! The closest thing to a > > registry tha

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 02:48:46AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > That just demonstrates you have no idea what you are talking about. oh please. someone already pointed out to me that older versions of Gnus ignored M-F-To but the current one does not. go fuck off. -- Ethan Benson http

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

John Galt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: PLEASE DON'T CC ME. I'M ON THE LIST > FYI 28 (aka RFC 1855) is the standard. Strictly speaking it's is only a standard if it is on the Standard Track and RFC1855 isn't. It is only an informational RFC. PLEASE DON'T CC ME. I'M ON THE LIST

Re: Anybody seen Loic Prylli lately?

On 01-01-04 Chuan-kai Lin wrote: > Does anyone know where Loic has been lately (i.e., for the past two years > or so)? AFAIK his last package upload was in November 1998, and the mail > I sent him about whether he needs help with mailx has generated no reply. > Since mailx is important, if the mai

Re: Problem with start-stop-daemon and pidfile

On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 02:10:19AM +0100, Goswin Brederlow wrote: > touch /var/run/debian-mirror.pid > chown mirror.nogroup /var/run/debian-mirror.pid > > touch /var/log/debian-mirror.log > chown mirror.nogroup /var/log/debian-mirror.log Please don't do this. nogroup should not be the group of

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

On Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 11:06:18PM -0800, Erik Hollensbe wrote: > apt-get and it's kin need more simple getopt-style flags that allow > overriding of certain things, mainly conflicts. Also, an option to > actually view what's being upgraded before you download 250 packages that > are only going to

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

>>"Ethan" == Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ethan> On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 02:48:46AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> That just demonstrates you have no idea what you are talking about. Ethan> oh please. someone already pointed out to me that older Ethan> versions of Gnus ignored

Unclean licences

Hello One of the programs I'd like to package has somewhat unclean licence. The readme file says only: COPYRIGHT: This program is FREEWARE! which I don't suppose is enough for us. The webpage is a bit more descriptive and says: These programs are freeware, which means that they may be distr

Re: [Fwd: Bug#63511 acknowledged by developer(Bug#63511: fixed in glibc 2.2-7)]

Russell Coker wrote: > > I'm sure that Ben will welcome your contributions towards maintaining the > libc6 package. All you have to do is read the list of bugs, solve some, and > send in patches. I'm not trying to bash Ben. He did a wonderful work in resolving many bugs and generally keeping up-

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 03:34:26AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > You prove my point. Resorting to invective is the last refuge > of the incompetent. This is your second demonstration of incompetence > in a public forum in 24 hours; and I suspect your drop in the > estimation of the rea

ITP: crack

Hello. I'd like to package CRACK, the well know password security checker. It has a nice licence, derived from Artistic and is no doubt a useful tool for an administrator. Pawel -- (___) | Pawel Wiecek <+48603240006> http://www.coven.vmh.net/ | < o o > | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GP

Re: our broken man package

Lars Wirzenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On the other hand, we might want to copy the OpenBSD version instead > of maintaining our own man. But I leave that to whoever maintains the > packages. We have alternatives on almost everything but dpkg and man. If someone thinks it's worth the effort

Need server

Is there any apt-able server out there that is accessible with a better bandwidth than ftp.debian.org (currently 468 bytes/sec) but still is up-to-date? ftp.debian.org has been very flaky for me for weeks. And neither ftp.de.debian.org nor source.rfc822.org are up-to-date. I guess they have the ve

Re: Unclean licences

"Pawel Wiecek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >These programs are freeware, which means that they may be distributed >freely. Nope, we should explicitly have the rights to distribute and modify the program.

What happened to libnss1-compat?

I have a commercial binary that needs this library. Yes, I can find it in potato, but not in unstable. Is there a new package providing libnss1-compat? Michael -- Michael Meskes Michael@Fam-Meskes.De Go SF 49ers! Go Rhein Fire! Use Debian GNU/Linux! Use PostgreSQL!

Re: [Fwd: Bug#63511 acknowledged by developer(Bug#63511: fixed in glibc 2.2-7)]

On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 10:20:11AM -0500, Ben Collins wrote: > > I've just reported what I had thought, some many many months ago, > > to be a problem. Of course, the maintainer has not done anything > > about this report for 7 months, and then he closes it like that. > > Not good. > > Oh, and ju

ITP: lovecalc

Hello I'd like to package lovecalc (http://www.lovecalculator.com/). Because of kinda unclean licence I'm not quite sure if it'll go into main or non-free (this depends on whether I convince the author to write a more precise one, I guess). Pawel -- (___) | Pawel Wiecek --

Re: [Fwd: Bug#63511 acknowledged by developer(Bug#63511: fixed in glibc 2.2-7)]

On Thursday 04 January 2001 20:50, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote: > Russell Coker wrote: > > I'm sure that Ben will welcome your contributions towards maintaining the > > libc6 package. All you have to do is read the list of bugs, solve some, > > and send in patches. > > I'm not trying to bash Ben. He

Re: Bug#81180: ITP: aterm -- an x terminal emulator

>> Chris Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Description: [4 ysabell:~] grep-available -s Package,Maintainer -P aterm Package: aterm-ml Maintainer: Jordi Mallach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Package: aterm Maintainer: Jordi Mallach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Please close

ITP: yardradius

I gonna package yardradius, see http://yardradius.sourceforge.net. I'm the upstream author. $Id: README,v 1.4 2001/01/02 09:41:19 kiavik Exp $ Yet Another Radius Daemon (YARD RADIUS) README File This program is a RADIUS RFC compliant daemon which is

Re: libapache-asp-perl - perl Apache::ASP - Active Server Pages for Apache with mod_perl.

On 22 Dec 2000, Stephen Zander wrote: > Piotr> ITO: libapache-asp-perl > Piotr> ITO: libapache-filter-perl > Piotr> ITO: libapache-ssi-perl > Piotr> ITO: libcgi-pm-perl > Piotr> ITO: libdbd-csv-perl > Piotr> ITO: libhtml-clean-perl > Piotr> ITO: libhtml-simpleparse-perl

Re: [Fwd: Bug#63511 acknowledged by developer(Bug#63511: fixed in glibc 2.2-7)]

Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > > Oh, and just to chime in on this little bit, I did not start maintaining > > glibc until Aug 31, 2000 (my first changelog entry). So no, I have not > > been sitting on this for 7 months. Get your facts straight. > > And just to chime in, I appreciate the huge effort an

Re: [Fwd: Bug#63511 acknowledged by developer(Bug#63511: fixed in glibc 2.2-7)]

Russell Coker wrote: > > This is already being done for some packages. Check the maintainer address > on the gcc package for an example. > > The thing that determines this is whether there are multiple people who are > skillful and willing to work. > > If you want to be the second developer for

PGP/GPG transition + db.debian.org

How long does it take usually for a (GPG) key sent to keyring.debian.org to show up in official keyring (and maintainers database)? I'm waiting for my new GPG key to show up for quite a few weeks and it seems a bit excessive to me :^) BTW -- our web interface to developers database (http://db.debi

ITP: Rhythm Composer TK-707 (And suggestions for sound in debian)

Yes, I've been in a packaging mood lately :) I'd like to have Tk707 packaged. Tk707 is a software clone of the Roland TR-707 rhythm composer, a drum machine. It is written in C and Tk and it uses the alsa sequencer. I am using it together with the latest alsa modules and lib (compiled from source

Re: dpkg-statoverride vs. suidmanager

Previously Joey Hess wrote: > Wichert Akkerman wrote: > > This still leaves us with two problems: > > 1. there is no 100% correct way to decide if something is an override > >or not > > They're flagged local or so arn't they? Either `local' or 'user' in my suid.conf, but it could be anything

Re: PGP/GPG transition + db.debian.org

Hi Pawel! On Thu, 04 Jan 2001, Pawel Wiecek wrote: > How long does it take usually for a (GPG) key sent to keyring.debian.org > to show up in official keyring (and maintainers database)? > I'm waiting for my new GPG key to show up for quite a few weeks and it seems a > bit excessive to me :^) Ne

Re: Need server

On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 11:01:43AM +0100, Michael Meskes wrote: > Is there any apt-able server out there that is accessible with a better > bandwidth than ftp.debian.org (currently 468 bytes/sec) but still is > up-to-date? There are almost two hundred public Debian mirrors, use them. http

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 08:44:49PM -0500, Adam McKenna wrote: > On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 08:41:06PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > If I'm already replying to a list, I'm not going to waste bandwidth by > > mailing you personally as well. > So what you're saying is that you're purposely ignorin

Re: maybe ITP rsync mirror script for pools

On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 06:14:05PM -0500, Adam McKenna wrote: > On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 11:57:07PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > Please don't encourage private mirrors! > > Debian itself encourages private mirrors. Personally, I'd rather just > download a new ISO every 3 months or so as new vers

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

THANK YOU. Finally, an answer that I can use. I will look into contributing towards this package. -- Erik Hollensbe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Programmer, Powells Internet Division "I respect a man who lets me know where he stands, even if he is wrong." - Malcolm X On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, Matt Zimmerman w

quota package and wishlist #67556

The severity of bug #67556 (package quota) should be changed from wishlist to important since it fixes a problem which makes the package unusable on big endian architectures (getopt() returns int(-1) and not char(-1)). Or at least it should be advisable to separate the getopt() bug from the rest an

Re: What happened to libnss1-compat?

On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 11:03:15AM +0100, Michael Meskes wrote: > I have a commercial binary that needs this library. Yes, I can find it in > potato, but not in unstable. Is there a new package providing > libnss1-compat? libnss1-compat would not compile cleanly with the latest glibc. So if you ne

Re: Need server

On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 01:48:34PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote: > There are almost two hundred public Debian mirrors, use them. Sure. But I was hoping someone would know a machine that a) is up-to-date (the three machines outside the US I tried so far are not) and b) is accessible pretty well (which

Re: ITP: crack

Pawel Wiecek writes: > I'd like to package CRACK, the well know password security checker. > It has a nice licence, derived from Artistic and is no doubt a > useful tool for an administrator. Have you looked at the package john? AFAIK john can do anything crack can do.

Re: Need server

On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 02:56:41PM +0100, Michael Meskes wrote: > On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 01:48:34PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote: > > There are almost two hundred public Debian mirrors, use them. > > Sure. But I was hoping someone would know a machine that a) is up-to-date > (the three machines outsi

Re: ITP: crack

On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 03:04:07PM +0100, Andreas Voegele wrote: > Pawel Wiecek writes: > > I'd like to package CRACK, the well know password security checker. > > It has a nice licence, derived from Artistic and is no doubt a > > useful tool for an administrator. > Have you looked at the package

Re: PGP/GPG transition + db.debian.org

On Jan 4, 1:11pm, Peter Palfrader wrote: > New keys sent to keyring.debian.org via gpg --send will take approximatly Gosh... > forever. New keys have to be added my hand by the keyring maintainer and Emailed him as well... > this might long (up 2 12 months?) (see a thread here on -devel perhap

Re: Rambling apt-get ideas

With the raging flame war going on about MUAs, I'm embarassed to mail this with lotus notes, but, hey, its all I have at work. Back on topic, I would have thought that package distribution was a one time shot. Caches are for people who would otherwise download the slashdot.org header graphic fi

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

> > Date:Thu, 04 Jan 2001 11:06:43 +1100 > To: Jim Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > cc: Erik Hollensbe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, debian-devel@lists.debian.org, >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > From:Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long) >

Something has broken APT on my system...

For few days (first experienced this on 1.1.) I've been trying to figure out what's wrong with APT as whatever command I try, I get: Reading Package Lists... Error! E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room E: Error occured while processing emusic (NewVersion1) E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/dpkg/st

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

A hobby server? OK; sorry: I saw "server" and read that as "important server". But in truth, you should be -filing- bugs against things you find wrong, for the following reason: not all developers read debian-devel, so your concerns, as important as they may be, may or may not reach the responsi

Re: Need server

On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 02:56:41PM +0100, Michael Meskes wrote: > > There are almost two hundred public Debian mirrors, use them. > > Sure. But I was hoping someone would know a machine that a) is up-to-date > (the three machines outside the US I tried so far are not) and b) is > accessible pretty

Re: ITP: Rhythm Composer TK-707 (And suggestions for sound in debian)

On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 10:04:55AM -0200, Eduardo Marcel Macan wrote: > alsa + timidity makes it possible do create really good sounding music > without having an expensive sound card. Jazz++ can also use alsa and > timidity. If we had alsa, timidity and jazz++ into debian enabled to > work toget

Re: Something has broken APT on my system...

On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 02:08:39AM +0200, Heikki Kantola wrote: > For few days (first experienced this on 1.1.) I've been trying to figure > out what's wrong with APT as whatever command I try, I get: > > Reading Package Lists... Error! > E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room > E: Error occured whil

Re: Bug#81180: ITP: aterm -- an x terminal emulator

> Marcelo E Magallon writes: >> Chris Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Description: mem> [4 ysabell:~] grep-available -s Package,Maintainer -P aterm mem> Package: aterm-ml mem> Maintainer: Jordi Mallach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> me

ITP: libxml-simple-perl

XML::Simple is a Perl module that facilitates reading and writing Perl data structures to XML. It is especially useful for configuration files. It's licensed under the same terms as Perl. -- Gordon Matzigkeit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> //\ I'm a FIG (http://fig.org/) Committed to diversity and freed

Re: Rambling apt-get ideas

On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 08:37:26AM -0600, Vince Mulhollon wrote: > Back on topic, I would have thought that package distribution was a one > time shot. Caches are for people who would otherwise download the > slashdot.org header graphic fifty times a day. Whereas each individual > debian machine

Re: Important Note On Source-Only Uploads

Anthony Towns wrote: > Basically: don't do them. Cool! I will tag all pine bugs as "wontfix"...

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 07:27:57AM -0800, Jim Lynch wrote: > But in truth, you should be -filing- bugs against things you find > wrong, for the following reason: not all developers read debian-devel, > so your concerns, as important as they may be, may or may not reach > the responsible parties, a

Re: PGP/GPG transition + db.debian.org

Hi Pawel! On Thu, 04 Jan 2001, Pawel Wiecek wrote: > On Jan 4, 1:11pm, Peter Palfrader wrote: > > (see a thread here on -devel perhaps a > > month or two ago). > > I can't find it in the archive... http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-0010/msg00683.html & Fups

Re: ITP: libxml-simple-perl

Hi Gordon! On Thu, 04 Jan 2001, Gordon Matzigkeit wrote: > XML::Simple is a Perl module that facilitates reading and writing Perl > data structures to XML. It is especially useful for configuration > files. > > It's licensed under the same terms as Perl. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg -S XML/Simple

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

On 03-Jan-01, 22:53 (CST), John Galt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, Branden Robinson wrote: > > > I didn't say there was. Does "Mail-Copies-To:" begin with an X? > > RFC 822 this time: > > http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc822.html > > and Mail-Copies-To: fails to rear it's ugly h

Re: our broken man package

On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 11:00:19AM +0100, Peter Makholm wrote: > Lars Wirzenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On the other hand, we might want to copy the OpenBSD version instead > > of maintaining our own man. But I leave that to whoever maintains the > > packages. > > We have alternatives o

Re: ITP: Rhythm Composer TK-707 (And suggestions for sound in debian)

On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 10:04:55AM -0200, Eduardo Marcel Macan wrote: > I'd like to have Tk707 packaged. Tk707 is a software clone of the > Roland TR-707 rhythm composer, a drum machine. > > It is written in C and Tk and it uses the alsa sequencer. I am using > it together with the latest alsa mod

Re: ITP: Rhythm Composer TK-707 (And suggestions for sound in debian)

On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 04:34:25PM +0100, Enrique Robledo Arnuncio wrote: > On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 10:04:55AM -0200, Eduardo Marcel Macan wrote: > Well, it was me, and I did package it, but I sent an ITP-delay message > some time ago, when a developer from the WxWindows team asked me not > to put

Re: maybe ITP rsync mirror script for pools

> " " == Marco d'Itri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Jan 02, Goswin Brederlow > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> So would there be intrest in a deb of the script coming with a >> debconf interface for configuration, cronjob or ip-up support >> and whatever else is needed t

Re: Something has broken APT on my system...

According to Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Have you tried removing the files under /var/state/apt/lists? Nope. > These are what is being read during the "Reading Package Lists..." > phase. But this information revealed the reason for the behaviour I reported: the problem spot was re

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, Branden Robinson wrote: > The problem is L4M3RZ using that broken piece of non-free shit PINE, which > doesn't appear to respect *any* conventions of netiquette. Is there a free mailer to replace "that broken piece of non-free shit PINE" that supports IMAP?

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

On Wed, 3 Jan 2001 18:59:47 -0800, Joey Hess wrote: > > Please bear in mind that many of us have been running unstable since > before Debian was released (at all), and fondly remember many fun little > incidents like ld.so completly breaking. Tends to put minor breakage in > perspectiv

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

On 20010104T100704-0600, Steve Greenland wrote: > On 03-Jan-01, 22:53 (CST), John Galt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The difference between pine and mutt is that you KNOW the overflows in > > pinemutt allegedly shares code with pine... > > Extremely unlikely, as it originated from elm. Pine

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

Previously Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: > Pine also originated from elm, so theoretically it's possible (although > I think both are complete rewrites). mutt is a complete rewrite and shouldn't share core with elm. Wichert. --

ITP: Bakery

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist I intend to package Bakery. Package: bakery License: GPL URL: http://bakery.sourceforge.net/ Bakery is a C++ Framework for creating GNOME applications using Gnome-- (gnomemm) and Gtk-- (gtkmm). I also maintain gtkmm and gnomemm packages. -- Mariusz Przygodzki

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

On 20010103T212649-0600, Adam Heath wrote: > Perl is a required package, there is no need to list the dependency. That it is required is not relevant. That it is a virtual essential package is. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%%

Re: Need server

On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 11:01:43AM +0100, Michael Meskes wrote: Hi! > Is there any apt-able server out there that is accessible with a better > bandwidth than ftp.debian.org (currently 468 bytes/sec) but still is > up-to-date? ftp.freenet.de seems to be very actually and it's fast too. Give it a

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 11:45:50AM -0500, David Greene wrote: > On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, Branden Robinson wrote: > > > The problem is L4M3RZ using that broken piece of non-free shit PINE, which > > doesn't appear to respect *any* conventions of netiquette. > > Is there a free mailer to replace "that

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

(Not Cced :) ) On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 02:15:42PM -0500, D-Man <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > What if I set my Reply-To header to be the address I was sending To? > How would you reply to me? ;-) To make a totally pointless observation: mutt lets you override Reply-To when you use

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

[ Craig Sanders writes ] > On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 11:26:25AM -0800, Philip Brown wrote: > > And in the case of the debian mailing lists, you should "reply to" the > > list. > > bullshit. > > some replies should go to the list, and some replies should be private. > it's up to the person writing t

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, Steve Greenland wrote: SG>On 03-Jan-01, 22:53 (CST), John Galt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: SG>> On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, Branden Robinson wrote: SG>> SG>> > I didn't say there was. Does "Mail-Copies-To:" begin with an X? SG>> SG>> RFC 822 this time: SG>> SG>> http://www.faqs.org

package pool and big Packages.gz file

hi, [i'm not sure if this has been resolved, lart me if you like.] my proposal to resolve big Packages.gz is through package pool system. add 36 or so new debian package, namely, [a-zA-Z0-1]-packages-gz_date_all.deb contents of each is quite obvious. ;-) and a virtual unstable-packages-gz depe

Re: our broken man package

Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 11:53:37PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: >> I'll bet (have not verified) that you can already trick it into writing >> bogus file by sticking trojan pages elsewhere in your manpath. > >i just tried it, did not end up with a cached file. >

mailing-list mgmt (was: Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long))

On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 10:43:05 -0800, Philip Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > But the primary point of a mailing list is for discussion ON THE LIST. > Do you want to disagree with that? partially. there are enough announce-only and moderated MLs. > So headers should be optimized for gro

Re: Need server

On Jan 04, Michael Meskes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >ftp.debian.org has been very flaky for me for weeks. And neither >ftp.de.debian.org nor source.rfc822.org are up-to-date. I guess they have >the very same problem accessing ftp.debian.org during their mirror process. {ftp,http}.it.debian.org

Re: package pool and big Packages.gz file

[read my previous semi-proposal] this has some more benefits, 1) package maintainer could upload (to pool) in whatever frequency they like. 2) release is seperated from package pool which is a storage system. and release is a qa system. 3) release could be managed through BTS on specific packag

Re: package pool and big Packages.gz file

On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 03:17:30AM +0800, zhaoway wrote: > [read my previous semi-proposal] > > this has some more benefits, > > 1) package maintainer could upload (to pool) in whatever > frequency they like. in an ideal world, developer should upload to ''xxx-auto-builder'' ;-) 9i'm turning ou

mutt's history (was: Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long))

On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 11:49:45 -0700, John Galt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > Let's see: Pine Is Nearly (no-longer lately...) Elm, you say that mutt > actually derives from elm, yet they don't share code. Um, yeah, sure, > whatever. BTW from the LG article about mutt... AFAICT mutt does

Re: ITP: Rhythm Composer TK-707 (And suggestions for sound in debian)

Oooops, sorry, I forgot telling it in my ITP. It is covered by the GPL and its page is at: http://www.vislab.usyd.edu.au/staff/chris/tk707/ On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 11:19:20AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 10:04:55AM -0200, Eduardo Marcel Macan

Re: mailing-list mgmt (was: Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long))

[ Thomas 'Mike' Michlmayr writes ] > On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 10:43:05 -0800, > Philip Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So headers should be optimized for group discussion. > > Replying to individuals is a secondary function. > > not at all. replying to individuals is an essentail function that

Re: console-tools vs kbd, fix listed in bug report?!

As pointed out to me, bug #71768 has a workaround to my problem listed in it. However, I find it quite appalling that a fix involving a one character change to a source file, where the fix has been listed in the bug report has not been pushed through, given its age. The console-tools package has

Re: our broken man package

Lars Wirzenius wrote: > They always re-format a manual page? This might be reasonable, actually. > Groff is pretty fast, and most manual pages are short, so it shouldn't > take too long even on older hardware. I think it would take a while on my 386 for things like the zshall man page. (Several hu

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