intent to orphan: spamdb

1999-05-21 Thread Craig Sanders
i'm finding that the spamdb is of little use these days, as most MTAs today have built-in support for RBL, the DUL RBLs, rejecting mail from unknown domains, and postfix even has regexp header checking now. i had intended to rewrite the package properly in perl - i've always considered the current

Re: evan leibovitch and the LPI certification tests

1999-05-21 Thread Stephen Zander
> "John" == John Lapeyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: John> A couple of salaried positions would be nice. Full John> time PR staff, ... Now *that* is something I could see value in. -- Stephen --- Long noun chains don't automatically imply security. - Bruce Schneier

Re: Netscape under unstable...

1999-05-21 Thread David Starner
Branden Robinson wrote: > There is apparently an egcs optimization bug that miscompiles a few object > files that are included in the X libraries. Could you just compile those object files with optimization off? > Alternatively, if egcs 2.95 is out and packaged before I release -5 > (probably nex

Re: [PRE-ANNOUNCE] DPKGv2 Project

1999-05-21 Thread Ben Collins
On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 08:33:24AM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > I'm surprised by this attitude; you seem to be suggesting that others > should not attempt a replacement, as yours already has Wichert's blessing. You are completely incorrect. This is not mine, it is involves Wichert as one of the

Re: (LONG) Correct non-US solution

1999-05-21 Thread Jim Freeman
On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 10:53:19AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: > On Wed, May 19, 1999 at 07:51:31PM -0400, Richard Stallman wrote: > > Also, I am not sure it is useful to distinguish between > > "use-restricted" and "patent-restricted", given that the consequences > > would be the same. > > the re

Re: evan leibovitch and the LPI certification tests

1999-05-21 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 01:32:06PM -0700, Chris Waters wrote: > > Market share and World domination are not goals I strive to > > achieve. > Market share, no. But world domination? C'mon, admit it would be fun > to have the downtrodden of the world grovelling at your feet. Dogbert > has

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg IN IDL! :)

1999-05-21 Thread Daniel James Patterson
On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 01:20:20AM -0700, Aaron Van Couwenberghe wrote: > > Argo-UML. It's a UML design tool, designed to export Java; however, its > nature makes it useful for any (distributed or otherwise) OO design project. > > I don't have a URL with me. > http://www.ics.uci.edu/pub/arch/uml

Re: stupid idea - metapackages

1999-05-21 Thread Adam Di Carlo
Christian Meder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, May 19, 1999 at 08:32:29PM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote: > > I suggest we all follow naming conventions, i.e., 'metapkg-*', so that > > it's easy to pick these babies out. > When this idea was tossed around for the first time (around Sep 1998)

Re: evan leibovitch and the LPI certification tests

1999-05-21 Thread Steve Shorter
On Fri, 21 May 1999, Craig Sanders wrote: > > we're not here to get 100% market share, or 50% or even 20%. we're here > to make the best system we can and share it amongst ourselves and with > others, and also to encourage others to join in the effort. > IMO the property relations that e

Re: evan leibovitch and the LPI certification tests

1999-05-21 Thread Ron
> > First question: If some major cash was donated to Debian, what would we > > do with it? Seriously, do we have a purpose for it, or would we just > > re-donate it to other projects? Sure that might look good for a story on > > Slashdot, but I'm more interested in making headlines for Debian

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

1999-05-21 Thread rjk
Marcus Brinkmann writes: > We all are blinded by dpkg. It works, yes. How long? The current > sources don't even build properly out of the box. Problems are > cropping up without people knowing how to fix them (see the bug > list). Even very simple patches and changes need months to get into > yet

Intent to package: [Biology] BioPerl

1999-05-21 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
BioPerl is a nice set of Perl modules (not scripts, BioPerl is useful for developers only) to deal with various biological problems. Debian developers will be pleased to learn that BioPerl is a cooperative and anarchistic effort. I subscribed to the debian-perl mailing

correct apt deb line for non-us?

1999-05-21 Thread Matthias Klose
Is it currently possible to access the unstable non-US section with apt-get? Or is the reorganisation not finished? Currently neither of the following lines work: deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable non-US deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian unstable non-US deb ftp://ftp.infodrom.

Re: stupid idea - metapackages

1999-05-21 Thread Philip Hands
Adam Di Carlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Christian Meder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > When this idea was tossed around for the first time (around Sep 1998) we > > settled for profile-* packages. > > I'm amenable to using 'profile-*' naming. Martin? How about creating a new section ``pro

Re: correct apt deb line for non-us?

1999-05-21 Thread J.H.M. Dassen
On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 10:55:19 +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > Is it currently possible to access the unstable non-US section with > apt-get? Yes. Use deb ftp://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable non-US/main non-US/contrib non-US/non-free Ray -- Cyberspace, a final frontier. These are th

Re: correct apt deb line for non-us?

1999-05-21 Thread Joseph Carter
On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 10:55:19AM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > Is it currently possible to access the unstable non-US section with > apt-get? Or is the reorganisation not finished? Currently neither of > the following lines work: > > deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable non-US >

Re: correct apt deb line for non-us?

1999-05-21 Thread Zephaniah E. Hull
This is my non-us section for apt, every now and then I use netselect to find the best site.. Copy the 'SITE' one and edit to add more, conan.eecg.toronto.edu is good for me as I'm in the US.. Zephaniah E. Hull. # netselect conan.eecg.toronto.edu pandora.debian.org ftp.jp.debian.org ftp.au.deb

Re: (LONG) Correct non-US solution

1999-05-21 Thread Jules Bean
Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: > > On Wed, May 19, 1999 at 08:26:21AM -0500, Richard Kaszeta wrote: > > Note that CTAN recently has split their archive into main and non-free > > trees based upon licenses like we do. :) > > Yes, I've noticed it. > > What criteria do they use? The DFSG? The OSD?

Re: Bug#38057: general: libgtop0: Depends: libglib1.1.13 (>= 1.1.13-1) but it is not installable

1999-05-21 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 12:00:20AM +0200, Martin Bialasinski wrote: > JM> libgtop0 should be removed from the archive; it is obselete and > JM> replaced by libgtop1. gnome-utils 0.99.3-1 depends on it -- but > JM> gnome-utils 0.99.3-1 is also obselete, but I cannot find a > JM> replacement, even t

Re: correct apt deb line for non-us?

1999-05-21 Thread J.H.M. Dassen
On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 02:16:39 -0700, Joseph Carter wrote: > Erf, is unstable/non-US self-sufficient without stable non-US? It works for me without an entry for stable. Ray -- Cyberspace, a final frontier. These are the voyages of my messages, on a lightspeed mission to explore strange new sy

recompiling expect on Slink

1999-05-21 Thread Eduardo Ochs
(first question:) What do I need to do to recompile expect from the sources? I have the following packages installed, ii expect5.24 5.28.1-1 ii expect5.24-dev 5.28.1-1 ii tk4.2 4.2p2-7 ii tk8.0 8.0.4-2 ii tk8.0-dev 8.0.4-2 ii tcl7.6 7.6p2-

Installing on old computers (WAS: Re: Time to rewrite dpkg)

1999-05-21 Thread E O Fredrik Liljegren
> methods are phasing out is just plainly wrong. Currently we have three > ways of booting the installation system: bootable CDs (requires a modern > BIOS), floppy disk and bootp (requires a netword card with the proper > ROM, and a bootp+tftp server on the same network). Our bootable CDs use a >

Re: correct apt deb line for non-us?

1999-05-21 Thread Martin Schulze
Matthias Klose wrote: > Is it currently possible to access the unstable non-US section with > apt-get? Or is the reorganisation not finished? Currently neither of > the following lines work: > > deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable non-US > deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian unstab

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg IN IDL! :)

1999-05-21 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 08:26:00AM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > I think a good object-oriented design can be easier to follow too. > In circumstances where there is naturally some use for inheritance > it is very useful indeed. I don't see any natural inheritance in > managing packages, though

Re: stupid idea - metapackages

1999-05-21 Thread Christian Meder
On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 12:38:16AM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote: > Christian Meder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Wed, May 19, 1999 at 08:32:29PM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote: > > > > I suggest we all follow naming conventions, i.e., 'metapkg-*', so that > > > it's easy to pick these babies out

Re: Apologies (2)

1999-05-21 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 12:47:59AM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote: >Well, I wan't to apologize to all who feel offended with my views and > ideas (whether they worth anything or nothing at all). I seems that I am > simply not capable of taking part in public discussions or I lack fluency in > Eng

www.de.debian.org

1999-05-21 Thread Christian T. Steigies
Hi, www.de.debian seems to have changed a little recently? TCP connection to 'www.de.debian.org' failed: Broken pipe. In the morning I got a different startup page for this server. Is this a temporary reconfiguration? Im also having some problems with ftp.de.debian.org Ciao, Christian.

ITP: GLilo

1999-05-21 Thread Pedro Guerreiro
GLilo is a GTK+ frontend to configure /etc/lilo.conf. Homepage can be found on http://www.student.hig.se/~nd96pwt/glilo/glilo.htm. -- Pedro Guerreiro ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Diplomacy: the art of letting someone have your

[mttrader@access.mountain.net: Re: Time to rewrite dpkg]

1999-05-21 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Just FYI, this is the response I got from swim's author. There's the URL I didn't have in my last mail ... Cheers, -- Raphaël Hertzog >> 0C4CABF1 >> http://prope.insa-lyon.fr/~rhertzog/ --- Begin Message --- On Wed, 19 May 1999, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Le Wed, May 19, 1999 at 05:24:08AM -0700,

An 'ae' testimony

1999-05-21 Thread Jules Bean
I don't want to start a flame-war, so be gentle.. I was just mindlessly (in a tongue-in-cheek way) evangalising Debian on a mailing list I'm on, and I got a private response from a SuSE user. He had installed Debian from a CD (he didn't say which version, I'm afraid) and 'vi fstab' to mount his o

Re: An 'ae' testimony

1999-05-21 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 11:47:59AM +0100, Jules Bean wrote: > Then he had attempting to do something which would have worked in vi (he > didn't give specifics) but doesn't work in 'ae', which resulted in the > file getting mangled, and saved. One solution would be not to try to imitate vi, or at l

Re: An 'ae' testimony

1999-05-21 Thread Craig Sanders
On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 11:47:59AM +0100, Jules Bean wrote: > I was just mindlessly (in a tongue-in-cheek way) evangalising Debian on > a mailing list I'm on, and I got a private response from a SuSE user. > He had installed Debian from a CD (he didn't say which version, I'm > afraid) and 'vi fst

Intent to adopt libdbd-csv-perl, libtext-csv-perl, libsql-statement-perl

1999-05-21 Thread Piotr Roszatycki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- I'll take packages: libdbd-csv-perl libtext-csv-perl libsql-statement-perl Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (current maintainer) agreed to give me his packages. - -- Piotr "Dexter" Roszatycki mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version:

Re: An 'ae' testimony

1999-05-21 Thread Dale Scheetz
This is a loose/loose situation. ae IS NOT vi, but can sort of simulate the more important vi commands. However it doesn't even do that the same way, so "real" vi users are put off byt the quit functionality. The vi link was to satisfy those whose fingers can type nothing but vi. Personally I don

Pthread programming

1999-05-21 Thread Patrick Bertholon
Hello, I'm making a program using Linux pthread, from the glibc 2.0.7t. There are few points that I'd like to understand more. 1) With linux Posix Thread, when a thread receive a signal (for example a segmentation fault), do the other thread of the same program automat

Re: Paying for trade show booths?

1999-05-21 Thread shaleh
> > Okay, next question would be then: Do we want to be paying for large > booths at trade shows? I agree, LinuxWorld was a _MADHOUSE_, but is it > something we want to spend donation money on? ie, do people think the > trade shows are that terribly important to us? > > (I was at LinuxWorld an

CALL for PAM support

1999-05-21 Thread Ben Collins
This is just a little reminder concerning PAMification of potato. I want to urge all maintainers who's programs do any sort of authentication or account management to seek PAM patches (or just enabling PAM if the program already supports it). There are several ways of obtaining patches: 1) Check f

Re: Pthread programming

1999-05-21 Thread Federico Di Gregorio
Scavenging the mail folder resulted in Patrick Bertholon writing: > Hello, > > I'm making a program using Linux pthread, from the glibc 2.0.7t. > There are few points that I'd like to understand more. > > 1) With linux Posix Thread, when a thread receive a signal (for >

Re: correct apt deb line for non-us?

1999-05-21 Thread Tim \(Pass the Prozac\) Sailer
On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 11:13:20AM +0200, J.H.M. Dassen wrote: > On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 10:55:19 +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > > Is it currently possible to access the unstable non-US section with > > apt-get? > > Yes. Use > deb ftp://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable non-US/main non-US/c

Re: Paying for trade show booths?

1999-05-21 Thread David Bristel
Perhaps, but if we could get a better location, it would help a LOT, or to do something to draw more attention, which really needs more space so people can realize we exist. Perhaps getting 50 coppies of the Debian book to sell, with the free CDs and more of the T-shirtsthe shirts were in HIGH

Information to at talk about Debian

1999-05-21 Thread Peter Makholm
I'm going to promote Debian on some meetings at the local LUG (www.sslug.dk). I would like to bring on some statistic about Debian but I wonder how I find the canonical numbers of developers and packages? Is there som standard material for using on a booth at a LinuxShow or is it all redone for ev

Re: request to kill nag messages

1999-05-21 Thread John Goerzen
Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > No one needs to take on that job, as the BTS already reports all open bugs > twice a week to every developer. I don't get such a report. > If this was simply a report to the list, once in a while, like the > "critical bugs that need to be fixed" list,

Re: request to kill nag messages

1999-05-21 Thread John Goerzen
Why don't you close the bugs? Adrian Bridgett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm not the only one to be annoyed at the nag messages that are sent out. > Can the script please be disabled. There are better ways to find out bugs > you have open. Long-standing bugs are likely to be less important t

LinuxExpo report, Day 1

1999-05-21 Thread John Goerzen
Hi, First, I've got photos of the day at LinuxExpo. They're all either 1280x960 or 1024x768 JPEGs; by the time you read this or shortly thereafter, they'll be up on my website at: http://www.debian.org/~jgoerzen/lexpo-photos/ Well, yesterday was the first day at LinuxExpo. I arrived at the s

Re: request to kill nag messages

1999-05-21 Thread John Goerzen
Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Wrong. Brian White is no longer the release manager, so he has no special > privilege to send mails like this. What special priviledge is necessary? The very fact that the bug has been open for that long I think entitles anyone to send them out. >

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

1999-05-21 Thread Goswin Brederlow
Anthony Towns writes: > [1 ] > On Wed, May 19, 1999 at 05:24:08AM -0700, Aaron Van Couwenberghe wrote: >... > In particular, there are established ways of linking programs written in > any language against C based libraries. As far as I'm aware doing the same > to C++ (or other object-oriented l

Routing in 2.2 kernel and potato

1999-05-21 Thread Oleg Krivosheev
Hi, All how i suppose to manipulate routing tables in kernel 2.2? After reading i've got the impression that new ANK written "iproute" utility is way to go. Ok, fired up dselect and installed iproute*.deb and guess what? There is no iproute utility inside while lots of docs talking about it. an

Re: [ITP/mostly packaged] hftpd

1999-05-21 Thread Adrian Bridgett
On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 01:14:49PM -0700, Chris Waters wrote: > Adrian Bridgett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Tue, May 18, 1999 at 05:09:27PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > > [snip] > > > > We really should have a policy for things like this. How about adding > > > > another Provides: to ker

Re: request to kill nag messages

1999-05-21 Thread Adrian Bridgett
On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 08:33:33PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: > Why don't you close the bugs? I need a time machine :-) Too many projects on, and I'm afraid that recently my Debian commitments have suffered at the hands of other projects. Adrian email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.poboxes.com/

Re: Apologies (2)

1999-05-21 Thread Marek Habersack
* Marcus Brinkmann said: > > ideas (whether they worth anything or nothing at all). I seems that I am > > simply not capable of taking part in public discussions or I lack fluency in > > English to express myself in a clear way. > > Someone on IRC told me that there can't be a calm discussion ab

Re: Pthread programming

1999-05-21 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 03:35:47PM +0200, Federico Di Gregorio was heard to say: > Scavenging the mail folder resulted in Patrick Bertholon writing: > > Hello, > > > > I'm making a program using Linux pthread, from the glibc 2.0.7t. > > There are few points that I'd like to u

Debian, money, marketing

1999-05-21 Thread David Welton
On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 05:07:25PM +0930, Ron wrote: > Hmm.. I'd have said full time QA staff. If we are gonna have hired > guns, let em blast at the bugs, then we *all* get value for our > money... Yeah, it's probably more worth it to have hired people do the 'boring' stuff that people are les

Re: glibc2.0-2.1 incompatibility: _xstat?

1999-05-21 Thread Simon Josefsson
Marco d'Itri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >Is there a workaround, so that I can continue to use these libraries? > > Write a small shared library providing _xstat and preload it. I wrote this to do that, unfortunely it wasn't enough for my program (a program compiled with the Portland Groups' f

Re: request to kill nag messages

1999-05-21 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"John" == John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: John> Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Wrong. Brian White is no longer the release manager, so he has no special >> privilege to send mails like this. John> What special priviledge is necessary? The very fact that the b

Re: request to kill nag messages

1999-05-21 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"John" == John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: John> Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> No one needs to take on that job, as the BTS already reports all open bugs >> twice a week to every developer. John> I don't get such a report. Because, unlike the nag reports

Source-depends?

1999-05-21 Thread James Mastros
I've noticed that many people on this list are, of late, talking about source-depends, but not doing anything about standardizing it... thus, a psudo-proposal for you guys (psudo because I can't formaly propose anything; I'm not yet a developer): A new control-file field be added, Compilation-Depen

Re: Information to at talk about Debian

1999-05-21 Thread J.H.M. Dassen
On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 17:01:31 +0200, Peter Makholm wrote: > I'm going to promote Debian on some meetings at the local LUG > (www.sslug.dk). I would like to bring on some statistic about Debian > but I wonder how I find the canonical numbers of developers and > packages? I'm not aware of canonic

Re: Source-depends?

1999-05-21 Thread Ben Collins
On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 02:12:43PM -0400, James Mastros wrote: > So how does this all sound to you guys? Well, it sounds like you repeated what about a dozen people have already said. The concern is an automated way to generate the depends. The autobuilders already use a semi-working type of this,

Re: [ITP/mostly packaged] hftpd

1999-05-21 Thread Ron
Adrian Bridgett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 01:14:49PM -0700, Chris Waters wrote: > > Adrian Bridgett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > On Tue, May 18, 1999 at 05:09:27PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > > > [snip] > > > > > We really should have a policy for things like

Re: telnet98_98.02.16.orig.tar.gz is wrong

1999-05-21 Thread Ian Lynagh
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Fumitoshi UKAI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >I don't know which (pseudo-)package I should submit to, so I post it >to this list. I e-mailed this to a couple of people but got no response. I am no longer the maintainer of this package, but no-one has yet taken it ove

Re: Netscape under unstable...

1999-05-21 Thread Per Lundberg
Tom Lear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Is it just me or is netscape crashing more recently? Every machine that I > have following unstable is having problems with netscape crashing, but the > machines following stable work fine. I can only speak for myself, but I've been running Netscape (4.08,

a question about scsi installs

1999-05-21 Thread Daryl Williams
hello debian developers, i am new to this list. i have been following it for the past week or so (as suggested on the debian web help page) to learn more about how the process works and how i might be able to contribute to debian in the future. i think you guys and gals are doing wonderful work!

Re: Source-depends?

1999-05-21 Thread Ron
> > So how does this all sound to you guys? > > Well, it sounds like you repeated what about a dozen people have already > said. The concern is an automated way to generate the depends. The > autobuilders already use a semi-working type of this, but it isn't perfect > and makes assumptions that ca

Re: Information to at talk about Debian

1999-05-21 Thread Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a
Maybe you could use some of the info in one of my articles on Debian 2.1 (try http://www.openresources.com), there are pointers there to some "unofficial" info. Regards Javi On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 05:01:31PM +0200, Peter Makholm wrote: > I'm going to promote Debian on

Re: telnet98_98.02.16.orig.tar.gz is wrong

1999-05-21 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 07:41:20PM +0100, Ian Lynagh wrote: > >I don't know which (pseudo-)package I should submit to, so I post it > >to this list. > > I e-mailed this to a couple of people but got no response. > > I am no longer the maintainer of this package, but no-one has yet taken > it over

Re: Hints about future improvements

1999-05-21 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Wed, May 19, 1999 at 08:15:21PM -0400, Adam Di Carlo was heard to say: > > OTOH, I wonder how much benefit binary diffs could really give. Since > every .deb is mostly gzip compressed data, wouldn't you often need to > retrieve the whole thing again anyway? > I believe in the thread I was

weekly policy summary

1999-05-21 Thread Joey Hess
Here's what's been happening on debian-policy this week. Amendments Libtool archive (*.la) files in -dev' packages (#37257) * Consensus. * Proposed on 4 May 1999 by Ossama Othman; seconded by Marcus Brinkmann and Marcelo E

mass-installing Debian

1999-05-21 Thread Dean . Carpenter
Bryan wrote: > Illo de' Illis wrote: > > > > On Wed, May 19, 1999 at 09:12:29AM -0700, Dean Carpenter wrote: > > > Now during installation, the exim preinst and postinst scripts would > > > source the install-response file, creating the variables with the > > > responses they need. At this point,

Advantages of distributions for companies?

1999-05-21 Thread Alistair Cunningham
On uk.comp.os.linux, there's been a discussion of what license a commercial company should release their program under. I've been asked the following: Now why is allowing "distributions to include your program" a good thing? I've replied with a few points, but I'd like to be able to give th

Re: request to kill nag messages

1999-05-21 Thread Dale Scheetz
On 21 May 1999, John Goerzen wrote: > Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > No one needs to take on that job, as the BTS already reports all open bugs > > twice a week to every developer. > > I don't get such a report. Probably because you are not subscribed to the bug-report mailing

Re: Paying for trade show booths?

1999-05-21 Thread Joseph Carter
On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 09:07:02AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > (I was at LinuxWorld and I must say it was cool! Worth going, and even > > worth the financial nightmare it created in my life that is just now > > getting resolved a couple months later..) > > We talked about this at the Expo

Re: An 'ae' testimony

1999-05-21 Thread Chris Waters
Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > someone (miquel, perhaps) made elvis-tiny a year or two back, and it fit > on the boot disk. would be nice if it could be made to fit again. elvis > isn't as good as vim, but it's much better than ae. Better for the experts who know vi, not as good for

Re: Paying for trade show booths?

1999-05-21 Thread Joseph Carter
On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 07:12:30AM -0700, David Bristel wrote: > Perhaps, but if we could get a better location, it would help a LOT, or to do > something to draw more attention, which really needs more space so people can > realize we exist. Perhaps getting 50 coppies of the Debian book to sell,

Re: An 'ae' testimony

1999-05-21 Thread Joseph Carter
On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 01:48:03PM -0700, Chris Waters wrote: > > someone (miquel, perhaps) made elvis-tiny a year or two back, and it fit > > on the boot disk. would be nice if it could be made to fit again. elvis > > isn't as good as vim, but it's much better than ae. > > Better for the experts

Re: Information to at talk about Debian

1999-05-21 Thread Joseph Carter
On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 08:24:29PM +0200, J.H.M. Dassen wrote: > Similarly, zgrep '^Package:' Packages.{main,contrib,non-free,...} | wc -l > using the Packages files for the various distributions (main, contrib, > non-free, non-US/main, non-US/contrib non-US/non-free) should give a > reasonably acc

FROM envelope rewite (Was: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender)

1999-05-21 Thread Stig Sandbeck Mathisen
* Brian Almeida (Tue, May 18, 1999 at 05:02:13PM -0400) > On Wed, May 19, 1999 at 01:20:03AM +0200, Mail Delivery System wrote: > > This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. > Can we please block this guy? It seems that there is a rewriting in the headers from Return-Path:

[ITP] xfonts-jmk-charcell

1999-05-21 Thread Joseph Carter
some happy fonts for X, includes a couple of BIG fonts (bigger than 10x20) which are useful to me in resolutions higher than 800x600. GPL. From the README: These are character-cell fonts for use with the X Window System, created by Jim Knoble. The current list of fonts included in this package

Re: An 'ae' testimony

1999-05-21 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 21 May 1999 14:57:26 -0700, Joseph Carter wrote: >Maybe joe or something? The standard joe package is way too big and >someone would almost certainly have to come up with a joe-tiny package or >something, but it'd at least work---compared to

Re: request to kill nag messages

1999-05-21 Thread Joseph Carter
On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 08:34:16PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: > > Wrong. Brian White is no longer the release manager, so he has no special > > privilege to send mails like this. > > What special priviledge is necessary? The very fact that the bug has > been open for that long I think entitles a

Re: Bug#38057: general: libgtop0: Depends: libglib1.1.13 (>= 1.1.13-1) but it is not installable

1999-05-21 Thread Martin Bialasinski
>> "JR" == Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: JR> [master:inc]$ ~maor/dinstall/dinstall -n gnome-utils_1.0.1-0.1_i386.changes JR> gnome-utils_1.0.1-0.1_i386.changes JR> SKIP (too new) JR> Rejected: md5sum failed JR> md5sum: MD5 check failed for 'gnome-utils_1.0.1-0.1.dsc' JR> [master:inc]$

Re: weekly policy summary

1999-05-21 Thread Joseph Carter
On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 01:21:26PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: > Logrotation (#37342) > * Under discussion for 1 week. > * Proposed on 28 Apr 1999 by Balazs Scheidler; seconded by Brock > Rozen, Raphaël Hertzog, Brian Almeida, Marco d'Itri and Joseph > Carter. > * Change to using logrotat

Re: LinuxExpo report, Day 1

1999-05-21 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
Quoting John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi, > > First, I've got photos of the day at LinuxExpo. They're all either > 1280x960 or 1024x768 JPEGs; by the time you read this or shortly > thereafter, they'll be up on my website at: > > http://www.debian.org/~jgoerzen/lexpo-photos/ > Oh my g

Re: An 'ae' testimony

1999-05-21 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 12:04:20AM +0200, Paul Seelig wrote: > ae is one of Debian's most overlooked weak spots IMHO... :-( i don't think it's overlooked...this discussion comes up too often for that. it's more that space is very limited on the boot disks. even elvis-tiny needs 65K. craig -- cr

Re: correct apt deb line for non-us?

1999-05-21 Thread Philip Hands
"Tim (Pass the Prozac) Sailer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: For those in the UK, you can also do it this way: deb http://www.uk.debian.org/debian potato \ main contrib non-free non-US/main non-US/contrib non-US/non-free [that should all be on one line, with no \ ] Cheers, Phil.

Re: An 'ae' testimony

1999-05-21 Thread Edward Betts
On Fri, 21 May, 1999, Steve Lamb wrote: > On Fri, 21 May 1999 14:57:26 -0700, Joseph Carter wrote: > > Joe might also be a good option because of its wordstar-esque keys. DOS > Edit has some convergence with joe on thse key bindings. IE, CNTL-Y is > delete line in both, etc. It isn't perfec

Re: An 'ae' testimony

1999-05-21 Thread Craig Sanders
On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 01:48:03PM -0700, Chris Waters wrote: > Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > someone (miquel, perhaps) made elvis-tiny a year or two back, and it fit > > on the boot disk. would be nice if it could be made to fit again. elvis > > isn't as good as vim, but it's much

Re: An 'ae' testimony

1999-05-21 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 22 May 1999 00:16:26 +0100, Edward Betts wrote: >I HATE wordstar key binds, so does everybody else. Try fte or an editor like >it for the boot disks. > >I am a vi and emacs man myself, but. I don't dislike it, neither do quite a few peopl

Re: An 'ae' testimony

1999-05-21 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 22 May 1999 09:02:24 +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: >*i* know it's not really vi. but my fingers don't. hail eris! Well, according to that logic joe should be on there. My fingers know joe. Anyone want to prompt for emacs because the

Re: Debian, money, marketing

1999-05-21 Thread Dean Henrichsmeyer
On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 12:22:17PM -0500, David Welton wrote: > You would be really surprised how many people have never even heard of > Debian. Unfortunately, the populace at large is not perfectly > informed about everything. This is where marketing comes in - yes, If someone will send me a h

Re: An 'ae' testimony

1999-05-21 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 04:33:43PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > >*i* know it's not really vi. but my fingers don't. hail eris! > > Well, according to that logic joe should be on there. My fingers know > joe. > > Anyone want to prompt for emacs because their fingers know emacs? Errr...