Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

1999-05-19 Thread Aaron Van Couwenberghe
On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 12:50:19AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > That seems... the wrong way around. > see comments below ;P > One alternative that's probably worth considering is improving libdpkg, so > that Apt and friends can make use of dpkg that way, and provide their own > front ends howev

Re: Intent to package: device3dfx

1999-05-19 Thread Francesco Tapparo
On Tue, May 18, 1999 at 09:04:18PM +0100, Steve Haslam wrote: > Hi people, > > device3dfx is a kernel module to allow user-space applications (quake > :}) access to 3Dfx cards without needing to be run as root. > > This package consists *only* of a GPL'd kernel module. As such it can > IMHO go in

Re: request to kill nag messages

1999-05-19 Thread Christian Kurz
Brian Almeida <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, May 19, 1999 at 09:28:33PM +0200, Christian Kurz wrote: > > So where's the problem with getting an reminder about your old open > > bugs, which you need to fix? > I don't NEED a reminder about my bugs. There should be an option to TURN THE > BLOO

Re: intend to package 'country'

1999-05-19 Thread David Frey
On Tue, May 18, 1999 at 12:46:27PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: > I have to wonder if we really need a package for this, since grep suffices.. If anyone cares; this is what I use: function domain { look -f "$1" /usr/share/zoneinfo/iso3166.tab|cut -f2; } function countrycode { grep "$1" /usr/share/zone

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

1999-05-19 Thread David Starner
Aaron Van Couwenberghe wrote: > Polymorphism is such an obvious pillar of structured programming that I > can't understand how anybody could live without it. Polymorphism is not a pillar of structured programming languages. The major structured programming languages - the Algols, Pascal, C, Modu

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

1999-05-19 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Wed, May 19, 1999 at 03:01:12PM -0700, Aaron Van Couwenberghe wrote: > Polymorphism is such an obvious pillar of structured programming that I > can't understand how anybody could live without it. Agreed. Too bad C++ does not support parametric polymorphism too well. Templates come close, so t

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

1999-05-19 Thread Ossama Othman
Hi, On 19 May, David Starner wrote: > Aaron Van Couwenberghe wrote: > > This is simply not true. > Why? Tell me how I pass a C++ object to C, Fortran or Pascal. The same way you pass fortran to C: use wrappers, for example. Here is one way of passing a static C++ method to a C function (e.g.

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

1999-05-19 Thread Marek Habersack
* Aaron Van Couwenberghe said: > Polymorphism is such an obvious pillar of structured programming that I > can't understand how anybody could live without it. Is it? AFAICS none of the traditional languages like Pascal or C has polimorphism at its base... > > In particular, there are established

Re: request to kill nag messages

1999-05-19 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, May 19, 1999 at 03:35:46PM -0400, Brian Almeida wrote: > Ah, I see. I thought I recalled you saying something on a list that having > something > added to the BTS would make your job easier...I stand corrected. Oh, I'm sure there are. But Brian's nag mails seem to be utterly orthogonal

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

1999-05-19 Thread Marek Habersack
* Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho said: > On Wed, May 19, 1999 at 03:01:12PM -0700, Aaron Van Couwenberghe wrote: > > Polymorphism is such an obvious pillar of structured programming that I > > can't understand how anybody could live without it. > > Agreed. Too bad C++ does not support parametric polymorp

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

1999-05-19 Thread Marek Habersack
* Ossama Othman said: > > Why? Tell me how I pass a C++ object to C, Fortran or Pascal. > > The same way you pass fortran to C: use wrappers, for example. Here is > one way of passing a static C++ method to a C function (e.g. signal > system call) in C++ code: > > extern "C" void > Base_clean

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

1999-05-19 Thread Aaron Van Couwenberghe
On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 01:37:53AM +0300, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: > > As far as writing it, no. As far as getting something like this accepted, > > it's going to take time, no question about it. > > I think I'll be looking forward to seeing your code. Oh, um, I didn't mean to downplay the l

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

1999-05-19 Thread Ossama Othman
Hi, > > extern "C" void > > Base_cleanup (void *object, void *) > > { > > Base::cleanup (object, 0); > > } > > > > Simple. :-) > Perhaps, but not clean. And doesn't make sense in this particular case... > Remember the rule of the Ockham's Razor I think it should be obeyed > here...

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

1999-05-19 Thread Ossama Othman
Hi Marek, On 19 May, Marek Habersack wrote: > * Ossama Othman said: >, but rather to it's > implementation on the GNU platform, which is now in its young days - it's > constantly changing, the features are being added, standard being > implemented in more and more detail. This situation will

People at Usenix

1999-05-19 Thread blackie
Does anyone plan on attending Usenix ( 06-11 Jun 1999 )?

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

1999-05-19 Thread Marek Habersack
* Ossama Othman said: > > > Simple. :-) > > Perhaps, but not clean. And doesn't make sense in this particular case... > > Remember the rule of the Ockham's Razor I think it should be obeyed > > here... > > What's not clean about it? It's a very simple wrapper? Also, what > doesn't make

RE: Time to rewrite dpkg

1999-05-19 Thread Brent Fulgham
> * Ossama Othman said: > > > > Why? Tell me how I pass a C++ object to C, Fortran or Pascal. > > > > The same way you pass fortran to C: use wrappers, for > example. Here is > > one way of passing a static C++ method to a C function (e.g. signal > > system call) in C++ code: > > > > extern

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

1999-05-19 Thread Marek Habersack
* Ossama Othman said: Hi, Ossama > > implementation on the GNU platform, which is now in its young days - it's > > constantly changing, the features are being added, standard being > > implemented in more and more detail. This situation will no doubt incurr > > many changes both in the source

time to rewrite dpkg

1999-05-19 Thread Aaron Van Couwenberghe
I'm closing this discussion for now. I know what I have in mind, and why C++ is better in this scenario than C. But I don't want to incite any more flamage; once again I say that I won't be forcing anyone to use this thing. It's only a personal project, and if anyone wants to use it after I'm finis

Re: Intent to package: device3dfx

1999-05-19 Thread Ben Pfaff
Francesco Tapparo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: On Tue, May 18, 1999 at 09:04:18PM +0100, Steve Haslam wrote: > device3dfx is a kernel module to allow user-space applications (quake > :}) access to 3Dfx cards without needing to be run as root. > > This package consists *only* of a GP

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

1999-05-19 Thread Marek Habersack
* Brent Fulgham said: > > > Simple. :-) > > Perhaps, but not clean. And doesn't make sense in this > > particular case... > > Remember the rule of the Ockham's Razor I think it should > > be obeyed > > here... > > > > I think the real problem is in trying to export a language-specific > co

Re: People at Usenix

1999-05-19 Thread Ben Gertzfield
> "blackie" == blackie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: blackie> Does anyone plan on attending Usenix ( 06-11 Jun 1999 )? I will be there. :) -- Brought to you by the letters A and J and the number 16. "HEY YO GYS!" Debian GNU/Linux maintainer of Gimp and GTK+ -- htt

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

1999-05-19 Thread Ossama Othman
On 20 May, Marek Habersack wrote: > * Ossama Othman said: > > What's not clean about it? It's a very simple wrapper? Also, what > > doesn't make sense? It has been taken out of context so you don't know > > what it is used for but it conveys the general idea, I think. I'm > Oh, you got me

Re: time to rewrite dpkg

1999-05-19 Thread Marek Habersack
* Aaron Van Couwenberghe said: > Yes, I see everyone's points. I know what you're saying. I'll keep it in > mind; you've made your arguments. I just would like to see an end to this > fledgling flamefest ;P Well, I saw no flames... Just a discussion but, hey, who am I to judge...? marek pgpzkc6

Re: Time to rewrite dpkg

1999-05-19 Thread Marek Habersack
* Ossama Othman said: > > mean, you can buy a small car - a "shopping bag on wheels" and then buy a > > new engine just to be able to tow a trailer :)) - it is possible, but not > > cost-effective and sensible - you can buy a larger and stronger car at once > > :)). Maybe the example isn't per

Re: (LONG) Correct non-US solution

1999-05-19 Thread Richard Stallman
As a practical matter, I don't think any countries restrict importation of software that might be in Debian, unless they also restrict its use. The only such circumstances I can think of have to do with pornography; in the UK, for example, customs will seize things that are on sale openly in Londo

Re: VA Research and linux.com

1999-05-19 Thread Sudhakar Chandrasekharan
Joseph Carter proclaimed: > Not to mention the longstanding rumors that "soon" Debian will be offered > on VA's machines.. I thought VA already did Debian installs "on request". S. -- Marge: Homer, you are his father. You've got to reason with him. Homer: Oh, that never works. He is a goner! S

Intend to package: GHC (glasgow haskell compiler).

1999-05-19 Thread Rui Zhu
Hello, all, I'm happy to express my wish to package GHC. I'm just doing it now and will soon send my application to become a Debian maintainer. I've contact GHC developer for licence issue again and now got answers from them (see below). Exact one will be later posted in haskell mailing list.

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