On Sun, Apr 19, 1998 at 07:13:32PM +0100, Enrique Zanardi wrote:
>
> The wierd thing is that rescue _is_ there:
>
> syslinux.cfg:
[snip]
> It worked fine with older versions of syslinux, and now it doesn't work,
> although /usr/doc/syslinux/syslinux.doc.gz says nothing about changing
> th
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On Sun, 19 Apr 1998, Jaakko Niemi wrote:
> >> I maintain the mesa package. As no packages (before this) depended on
> >> a libc5 version of mesa, I stopped including them. Adding them back
> >> seems like a step backwards. It would be much better if you could
>
Thanks to all who provided feedback for the install doc! I can't believe how
many spelling mistakes I made, and didn't even run spell check. In my
defense, I have to note, that many of those mistakes were not mine, but have
been in the install doc for a while :).
The updated install doc is s
Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It would probably make a lot of people very happy (including me) to bzip2
> the Xfree86 source and/or binaries.
Hmm... it's actually probably a good idea to bzip2 the X sources.
They're monstrous.
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: Hmm... it's actually probably a good idea to bzip2 the X sources.
: They're monstrous.
Probably a good idea. However...
The right way to handle this is for someone to broach the subject of using
compressors other than gzip for source packages over on
Christian Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Just go get this right: As Policy Manager I have fiat power WRT policy
> decisions. (This was stated by Bruce when I was nomiated and repeated by
> Ian J. on 8 Dec 97--check out debian-private if you have doubts.)
>
> As I wrote to debian-policy a
Michael Alan Dorman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Yes and yes. I've got a tree that has, among other things,
> debian-changelog.el working with the new emacs. I need to integrate
> the changes Miquel and Juan made.
This is easy to do with cvs.
cvs checkout -r v1_4_0_20 dpkg
# copy your changes
Dear Madam/Sir,
My internet provider changed his router parameter because his win95 users
must to use bring up terminal window after connection. Since this option
(Cisco/Group-Async/no ppp authentication pap)changed I do not make a correct
connection and get two error messages:
--ppp not replacing
Greg Stark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> They don't seem to be in the Incoming mirrors, are they somewhere else?
>
> There's someone who posts periodically saying he has an automatically built
> iso image and boot floppies somewhere but I can't find any of his posts in the
> archives.
For the i
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On Sun, Apr 19, 1998 at 05:55:19PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> It just so happens that with XFree86 we "can't use pristine source anyway".
> XFree86 source ships like the X source itself does -- in three chunks.
Anyone willing to discuss improvements to our source package format?
Adding sup
Hi,
>>"Dale" == Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Dale> Then you will need to remove libc6, as the loader is not
Dale> stripped, as dictated by policy. If I strip it, as policy
Dale> demands, it will not work.
Have you reported this as a bug againt the policy manuals
then? Is poli
Hi,
>>"Felix" == Felix Schroeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Felix> (If I can change the MD5ed file, I can often also
Felix> change the MD5.)
So tell me, how do you fake the signature of the announcement
on c.o.l.a? You may change the tar file on your mirror all you want,
but I shall e
Bdale Garbee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> As maintainer of gzip for Debian, I do not agree that having gzip
> fork a bzip2 when it sees a bzip2 magic number is a good idea. If
> we want to support multiple compression engines, I believe this
> should be handled in dpkg-source.
I agree entirely.
I intend to package up Moxa radius, a fully-featured radius server package.
It has some of the features that are not available in any of freely available
radius's that debian contains, such as proxy support. I found it accidentally
on the net, and at that point it had no license at all. I co
On Fri, 17 Apr 1998, Martin Schulze wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 17, 1998 at 08:51:57PM +0100, James Troup wrote:
> > Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > > It's free as it seems from the first view. The second view tells
> > > you it's non-free, unfortunately.
> > >
> > > Nevertheless I'
On Sat, 18 Apr 1998, David Frey wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 17, 1998 at 08:27:39PM +0200, Andreas Jellinghaus wrote:
> >The comment field is used by various system utilities,
> >such as finger(1). Three additional values may be present
> >in the comment field. They are
> >
> >pri= - set initial va
We should modify our libc so that opening a file in /tmp or /var/tmp -
determined by simple string comparison of the filename passed to
open(2) - fails if O_CREAT is specified without O_EXCL.
We should do this in slink. That way almost any program with a /tmp
security hole will stop working strai
On Mon, Apr 20, 1998 at 01:20:10PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> We should modify our libc so that opening a file in /tmp or /var/tmp -
> determined by simple string comparison of the filename passed to
> open(2) - fails if O_CREAT is specified without O_EXCL.
>
> We should do this in slink. That
On 20 Apr 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> Hi,
> >>"Dale" == Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Dale> Then you will need to remove libc6, as the loader is not
> Dale> stripped, as dictated by policy. If I strip it, as policy
> Dale> demands, it will not work.
>
> Have you reported
On Mon, Apr 20, 1998 at 01:20:10PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> We should modify our libc so that opening a file in /tmp or /var/tmp -
> determined by simple string comparison of the filename passed to
> open(2) - fails if O_CREAT is specified without O_EXCL.
This should only be files directly unde
On Sat, Apr 18, 1998 at 09:45:27AM -0700, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote:
> It is currently, but not for too much longer, sitting in:
> http://www.inetarena.com/~karlheg/Public/Usenix-88-lexic.pdf
>
> Please let me know if you've got a home for it, so I'll know when I can
> remove the file from the ht
I seem to remember that there are mirrors of incoming. Could
anyone point me to one? master doesn't seem to fancy ftp at the
moment and I have an acute need of the new guile packs.
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In the findutils package, /etc/updatedb.conf could use a small addition.
Add /var/spool/news and /var/spool/squid to the PRUNEPATHS variable.
In the cron package, /etc/checksecurity.conf needs the same.
Add "on /var/spool/news | on /var/spool/squid" to the CS_DIRS variable.
I don't know whether t
On Fri, Apr 17, 1998 at 01:30:36PM -0400, Alex Yukhimets wrote:
> > 4 or 5? No, in fact there are only 2 vi clones in main: nvi and vim.
> > ae and emacs in vi-mode certainly don't count. elvis, unlike nvi and vim
> > is the only one with X support. We should continue to push for it to be
> > made
Hi everybody,
excuse me for being out of topic but I have a little
problem with the squid web cache and if somebody know how
to solve it I will thank him for a LOT of time...
ftpget doesn't work.I am pretty sure the conf file
has all the right options in it, squid launch ftpget a
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please respect the Reply-To ]
Christian Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > It'll be maintained by "Igor Grobman and James Troup
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>". I know this is controversial, but
> > > quite frankly, I don'
On Mon, Apr 20, 1998 at 02:52:08PM +0200, Ole J. Tetlie wrote:
>
> I seem to remember that there are mirrors of incoming. Could
> anyone point me to one? master doesn't seem to fancy ftp at the
> moment and I have an acute need of the new guile packs.
Try:
ftp://llug.sep.bnl.gov/pub/debia
The web version should be hierarchical. I have created a sample version which
can be viewed at http://www.debian.org/~treacy/install/ . This has some
additional
changes to better describe the different possible installation routes.
Note that it does not include all the changes you made. Hopefully
Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> From: "Sara Winge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 09:16:43 -0700
> Subject: NPR show on open source
>
> Eric Raymond and Richard Stallman are guests on
> NPR's "Science Friday" today--looks like the segment's
> from 12:30-1:00 pm PD
Hi,
I agreee, policy is not infallible. But rather than flouting
policy, I think a better approach is to have policy fixed; that way
more people can benefit from the ``correct'' methods.
This is similar to any other bug; rather than merely fixing
the bug with a local hack one i
Douglas Bates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > From: "Sara Winge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 09:16:43 -0700
> > Subject: NPR show on open source
> >
> > Eric Raymond and Richard Stallman are guests on
> > NPR's "Science Frida
Hi,
I do not think (personal opinion, it seems, looking at the
other responses) that the Policy is a ``guideline''; I have always
thought of it as a set of ``rules'' to be followed.
I think the policy document is what makes Debian a well
integrated distribution; packages can de
On 20 Apr 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> The policy is the only standard we have for the distribution;
> and standards not followed are sometimes worse than no standards at
> all. (This is one of my pet peeves with miscrosoft).
>
While I could disagree with the other "personal opinions"
Hi,
>>"Ian" == Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Ian> We should modify our libc so that opening a file in /tmp or
Ian> /var/tmp - determined by simple string comparison of the filename
Ian> passed to open(2) - fails if O_CREAT is specified without O_EXCL.
I think I would want echo b
Does anyone know what the status of debian+gnome is? Is anyone
working on this? If they haven't already spent the money we donated
to them, could we ask that a small piece of it go towards having
someone spend the time to make it so that deb's are generated
automatically as well as rpm's? I woul
Hi,
>>"Dale" == Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Dale> No, because as a guideline it is correct. This has been my point
Dale> all along. Policy is a guideline, which points to a preferred
Dale> path of development and proceedures. When those guidelines fail
Dale> to produce the desired res
GNOME is currently not very stable and things are changing very rapidly. Jim
Pick is the GNOME guy for Debian. Give it a few more weeks and I think you
will see more.
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Michael Alan Dorman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Bdale Garbee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > As maintainer of gzip for Debian, I do not agree that having gzip
> > fork a bzip2 when it sees a bzip2 magic number is a good idea. If
> > we want to support multiple compression engines, I believe thi
On 20 Apr 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> Hi,
> >>"Dale" == Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Dale> No, because as a guideline it is correct. This has been my point
> Dale> all along. Policy is a guideline, which points to a preferred
> Dale> path of development and proceedures. When t
Falk Hueffner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I cannnot quite understand that. gunzip already supports five or six
> different formats, so why not add another one? gunzip *is* designed to
> support multiple compression engines.
Not as external programs.
Mike.
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Hello!
Some user suggested on debian-user to include a ppp setup utility on the
base disks. Actually, he suggested wvdial, but he was not aware of
pppconfig, which works better and is great.
Naturally, I missed to vut&paste his name...
I think this would be a of great help for newbies. I tried
This is from the README file:
Bezerk is an IRC client written with the GTK toolkit. It is currently
being developed under RedHat Linux, and is released under the GNU
Public License.
This is a pre-alpha release of Bezerk, and it is far from complete. It
should be usable for everyday IRC usage thou
Sorry I'm late in getting back to you with comments on your new
version of install.txt. I think this is a big improvement over
previous versions. A few minor points to consider:
Under "Information You'll Need", you should tell the reader that
he doesn't need the network information for
Igor, this is great. But there are still some mistakes.
The 'Installing on low-memory systems' section says:
Installing on low-memory systems
If your computer has less than 6MB of phycical memory (RAM), you will need
to use
... to use what? :) This sounds like something right out of the will
Hello,
the contents of the hamm binary archive exceeds the magic 650 MB
limit. Is there any progress in making dselect/dpkg aware of this?
Or is the current solution to split
hamm/hamm
and
hamm/{contrib,non-free}
??
What are the plans for the official CD?
Heiko
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Manoj Srivastava writes ("Re: /tmp exploits"):
...
> I think I would want echo blah > /tmp/junk nto to start
> failing on my just because there is a file called junk already
> in there. Modifying libc is too deep rooted a change; and modifes the
> semantics of /tmp in an unacceptable fashi
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On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, Heiko Schlittermann wrote:
> What are the plans for the official CD?
The official CD will not have non-free on it.
¿Should we care about non-official CDs?
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I started playing w/ this a day or so ago. It is VERY VERY alpha. The efnet
server I always use causes it to segfault. The author is very open to bug
reports and patches however. He has also sent me a patch to try and see if I
can log into my server again. I would hold off on giving this to
On Sun, Apr 19, 1998 at 02:44:35PM -0700, Guy Maor wrote:
> Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Looking closer, I found a couple of packages (msqld and sudo)
> > which updated /etc/group in what I would consider an insufficiently
> > paranoid fashion.
>
> No package should modify /etc/p
On Mon, Apr 20, 1998 at 03:13:24PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> GNOME is currently not very stable and things are changing very
> rapidly. Jim Pick is the GNOME guy for Debian. Give it a few more
> weeks and I think you will see more.
The thing I was wondering about is getting support in t
Hi,
>>"Dale" == Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Dale> On 20 Apr 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> The policy is the only standard we have for the distribution; and
>> standards not followed are sometimes worse than no standards at
>> all. (This is one of my pet peeves with miscrosoft).
>>
Hi,
>>"Dale" == Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Dale> On 20 Apr 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> I agree that there there well may be exceptions to the individual
>> directives in the Policy; in which case I think the exceptions
>> (when known) should be noted in the policy. This has the
On Mon, Apr 20, 1998 at 03:57:27PM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote:
> On 20 Apr 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> > By the way, I do not think I am alone in regarding the Policy
> > as a standards document; a quick (informal) poll on IRC showed a
> > wider accord (for what it counts for).
> >
> Folk
On Mon, Apr 20, 1998 at 02:38:59PM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> If anyone is using apt to access the archive then you will have to remove
> the line with stable. If you have a special reason for access to stable
> (right now the feature is not used) then you can put something like
>
> deb http:
On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, Heiko Schlittermann wrote:
> Hello,
>
> the contents of the hamm binary archive exceeds the magic 650 MB
> limit. Is there any progress in making dselect/dpkg aware of this?
Is this still true if you don't count non-free, and remove the source from
contrib (and put it on th
Hi,
>>"Ian" == Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Ian> I think noone, even humans, should type `echo blah > /tmp/junk'.
Ian> Make a directory named after your userid, or use your home
Ian> directory, or something.
Right. But my machine, my rules -- and this proposal would
change the
[regarding the "guidelines" vs. "rule" discussion:]
I wrote:
> It's up to you which guidelines you want to follow--but if you want to
> maintain packages for our distribution, you'll have to follow our
> guidelines!
I really meant `rules' here, instead of `guidelines.' (Note, that English
is my
Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> We should modify our libc so that opening a file in /tmp or /var/tmp -
> determined by simple string comparison of the filename passed to
> open(2) - fails if O_CREAT is specified without O_EXCL.
>
> We should do this in slink. That way almost any progr
On 20 Apr 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> Hi,
> >>"Dale" == Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Dale> On 20 Apr 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> >> The policy is the only standard we have for the distribution; and
> >> standards not followed are sometimes worse than no standards at
> >> a
> "Ole" == Ole J Tetlie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Ole> I seem to remember that there are mirrors of incoming. Could
Ole> anyone point me to one? master doesn't seem to fancy ftp at
Ole> the moment and I have an acute need of the new guile packs.
I will upload the guile packages
Fixed it this morning, but cannot upload to master. I asked on IRC,
and `mark', a sysadmin at Novare says there was `scsi errors'. He's
copying the disk. When `master' is back online, I'll upload.
Hey! `guile-unexec' works! `tguile' will be uploaded soon, as well
as `guile-scsh'.
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On 20 Apr 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>
> Hmm. I agree about the exceptions, if any. The severity idea
> sounds interesting, though I think it should be evaluated more
> thoroughly. It may require the Policy document to be totally
> re-evaluated; I would tend to think that policy shoul
On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, Branden Robinson wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 20, 1998 at 03:57:27PM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote:
> > On 20 Apr 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> > > By the way, I do not think I am alone in regarding the Policy
> > > as a standards document; a quick (informal) poll on IRC showed a
> >
On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, Christian Schwarz wrote:
>
> Also note, that I just sent a proposal of a new `maintainer policy' to
> debian-policy. Everyone is invited to take part of the discussion.
>
As this issue appears to effect all maintainers, I would ask that the
discusion be carried out on debian
David Welton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Mon, Apr 20, 1998 at 03:13:24PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > GNOME is currently not very stable and things are changing very
> > rapidly. Jim Pick is the GNOME guy for Debian. Give it a few more
> > weeks and I think you will see more.
> The
David Welton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > GNOME is currently not very stable and things are changing very
> > rapidly. Jim Pick is the GNOME guy for Debian. Give it a few more
> > weeks and I think you will see more.
I've got most of the packaging for gnome 0.13 done. Unfortunately,
the gd
hello, mark @ novare here.
yesterday, Sunday, the disk on which the archive resides experienced
scsi read errors.
last night i prepared a second disk and put it on master only to
experience further
scsi problems which were eventually resolved.
as of about an hour ago, 17:30 CST, the copy of the d
Hi,
>>"Dale" == Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Dale> The desire is to create a distribution that installs in the
Dale> smallest disk space possible. I saw that requirement as being a
Dale> smaller one than the functionality requirement, and thus
Dale> "violated" the letter of the policy
On Mon, Apr 20, 1998 at 07:15:23PM +0100, Philip Hands wrote:
> I did a bo--hamm upgrade over the weekend using your autoup.sh:
>
> $Id: autoup.sh,v 0.23 1998/03/26 15:31:10 root Exp root $
>
> and got this when it got to installing dpkg:
>
>
> dpkg: regarding .../base/dpkg_1.4.0.22.deb
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