Re: miscutils snag/questions for all

1995-11-26 Thread Bruce Perens
> * The miscutils come from the util-linux distribution maintained by > Rik Faith and others. I think Ian Murdock tried to get the sources from _outside_ of BOGUS where possible, because BOGUS did not contain the thorough copyright and attribution information for each program that we feel is nece

kernel crisis?

1995-11-26 Thread Bruce Perens
> 1. Who is responsible for kernel versions? If you use a kernel version > less than 1.3.43 you'll need to apply a patch. So I probably need > to know the maintainers of the 1.2.x and 1.3.y versions. I am the victim who issues the Debian-ized kernel. I have a problem here. The binary interface

Problems with elf gcc and man.

1995-11-26 Thread Rob Browning
I'm not sure this is a bug, or a misconfiguration on my part, but the man package installed even though I didn't have libgdbm installed. Then man would die on launch when it couldn't find the library. Also, I installed gcc-2.7.1 and libc5, libc5-dev, and elf-libg++, and tried to compile a simple

Re: miscutils snag/questions for all

1995-11-26 Thread Jeff Noxon
Bruce Perens wrote: > As a rule of thumb, if you can get a program from the most-upstream > source - for example the person who contributed it to BOGUS instead > of BOGUS, get it from that source. That sounds fair. Unfortunately, some utilities (like fdisk) seem to be maintained (recently) only i

Re: miscutils snag/questions for all

1995-11-26 Thread Bruce Perens
> Do we really want > programs like fdisk to evolve differently in different distributions? Fdisk is a special issue. There is a new fdisk 3.0 which was distributed separately. It is a command line program and we need to write a front end for it. > If the answer is 'yes', then I would like to hav

Re: New a.out/ELF development packages

1995-11-26 Thread Siggy Brentrup
> "Chris" == Chris Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Chris> In the "binutils-2.5.2l.20-2" package, "/usr/lib/libbfd.so.2.5.2l.20" Chris> should be moved to "/lib/", because it is needed by "nm", which is Chris> invoked by "depmod", which is run before the non-root file systems ar

Bug#1900: tcl.h in funny location

1995-11-26 Thread Raul Miller
Package: tcl Version: 7.3 Revision: 4 tcl.h is in /usr/include/tcl -- yet there are no other files for this directory. Seems to me it would make more sense to have just plain /usr/include/tcl.h -- Raul

Bug#1895: run-parts does not run scripts without #!/...

1995-11-26 Thread Harald Schueler
On Sat, 25 Nov 1995, Ian Jackson wrote: > > Run-parts does not run scripts not beginning with #!/... This may not be > > a bug, but it should be documented. run-parts --test, however, displays > > _all_ scripts, which is rather confusing, and not a test at all. > It does run them - or try to, any

Bug#1899: missing tk.h

1995-11-26 Thread Raul Miller
Package: tk Version: 3.6 Revision: 5 tk.h is missing from this development package. This makes in difficult to build programs which wish to link with tk. -- Raul

Bug#1900: tcl.h in funny location

1995-11-26 Thread Richard Kettlewell
Raul Miller writes: >Package: tcl >Version: 7.3 >Revision: 4 > >tcl.h is in /usr/include/tcl -- yet there are no other files for this >directory. Seems to me it would make more sense to have just plain >/usr/include/tcl.h [EMAIL PROTECTED]:richard$ ls -l /usr/include/tcl/ total 219 -rw-rw-r--

Re: miscutils snag/questions for all

1995-11-26 Thread Ian Jackson
Jeff Noxon writes ("Re: miscutils snag/questions for all"): > Bruce Perens wrote: > > It's a mess. I wish that all of the programs we need from util-linux > > were distributed separately, that way we could package them individually. > > I'd prefer to split util-linux into smaller packages, if you h

Re: miscutils snag/questions for all

1995-11-26 Thread Ian Jackson
Bruce Perens writes ("Re: miscutils snag/questions for all"): > [Jeff Noxon:] > > Do we really want > > programs like fdisk to evolve differently in different distributions? > > Fdisk is a special issue. There is a new fdisk 3.0 which was distributed > separately. It is a command line program and

Re: kernel crisis?

1995-11-26 Thread Ian Jackson
Bruce Perens writes ("kernel crisis?"): > I have a problem here. The binary interface of the 1.3.x kernel is > diverging from the 1.2.13 system to the extent that it's difficult to > keep one binary system that runs both kernels. This is clearly a Bad Thing. In a way it's easier for us because w

Bug#1901: `compose' keytable command not documented

1995-11-26 Thread Ian Jackson
Package: kbd Version: 0.90-3 keytables(5) doesn't document the `compose' command found in several of the files in /usr/lib/kbd/keytables. It doesn't mention dead keys or compose at all. Ian.

Bug#1902: manpage for wtmp wrong

1995-11-26 Thread Karl Ferguson
Package: manpages Version: 1.8-1 Hi... (I'm being picky, but...) According to the Contents file, wtmp is located in /etc - which it is. However, the wtmp manpage says it's in /var/adm. I'd say this would be a manpages problem rather than a base problem... Oh while I'm at it, I'm not sure but i

Bug#1895: run-parts does not run scripts without #!/...

1995-11-26 Thread Ian Jackson
Harald Schueler writes ("Re: Bug#1895: run-parts does not run scripts without #!/..."): > What it does is documented: It calls execvp, which in turn executes only > script _with_ #!/interpreter (or binaries of course). Yes, I'm aware that execvp only runs scripts that are in the proper executable

Bug#1902: manpage for wtmp wrong

1995-11-26 Thread Andrew Howell
Karl Ferguson writes: > > Package: manpages > Version: 1.8-1 > > Hi... > > (I'm being picky, but...) > According to the Contents file, wtmp is located in /etc - which it is. > However, > the wtmp manpage says it's in /var/adm. I'd say this would be a manpages > problem rather than a base problem

Bug#1880: Compile error dpkg-1.0.5.tar.gz

1995-11-26 Thread Ian Jackson
Jos Vos writes ("Bug#1880: Compile error dpkg-1.0.5.tar.gz"): > Package: dpkg > > I try to compile dpkg-1.0.5, both with GCC 2.5.8 (a.out target) and > GCC 2.7.0 (ELF target) and in both cases I got: > > filesdb.c: In function `sysinfo': > filesdb.c:30: `__NR_sysinfo' undeclared (first use this fun

Re: kernel crisis?

1995-11-26 Thread Andrew Howell
Ian Jackson writes: > > Bruce Perens writes ("kernel crisis?"): > > I have a problem here. The binary interface of the 1.3.x kernel is > > diverging from the 1.2.13 system to the extent that it's difficult to > > keep one binary system that runs both kernels. > > This is clearly a Bad Thing. In

Re: Bug#1895: run-parts does not run scripts without #!/...

1995-11-26 Thread Jeff Noxon
Ian Jackson writes: > The whole design of system() in Perl isn't conducive to good > error-trapping. I suppose it might be better to use fork oneself. > > Jeff (you're the maintainer of this package, aren't you?) - would you > like me to send you an update that uses fork directly and produces an

Re: miscutils snag/questions for all

1995-11-26 Thread Bill Mitchell
On Sat, 25 Nov 1995, Bruce Perens wrote: > We should encourage authors to package their programs individually rather > than dump them on Rik. Sometimes, we're going to have to make judgement > calls. And someone commented that it'd have been better if all the programs in upstream digest packages

Re: miscutils snag/questions for all

1995-11-26 Thread Jeff Noxon
Ian Jackson writes: > Bruce Perens writes ("Re: miscutils snag/questions for all"): > > [Jeff Noxon:] > > > Do we really want > > > programs like fdisk to evolve differently in different distributions? > > > > Fdisk is a special issue. There is a new fdisk 3.0 which was distributed > > separately.

Bug#1545: write' can't write to telnet logins

1995-11-26 Thread Austin Donnelly
On Wed, 4 Oct 95 15:06 BST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ian Jackson) wrote: >Package: bsdutils? netstd? >Version: bsdutils 1.3-1, netstd 1.17-1 > >Are `mesg y' terminals on Debian supposed to be g+w, or go+w ? They are g+w. >telnetd (from netbase) and mesg (from bsdutils) seem to thing g+w >ought to be

Re: Bug#1895: run-parts does not run scripts without #!/...

1995-11-26 Thread Ian Jackson
Jeff Noxon writes: > My plan is to rewrite run-parts in C or C++. However, I probably won't > have that done until next weekend. I've never done any perl programming > before, so i'd like to avoid making changes to the perl script unless > you think this bug is urgent enough to warrant it. No, f

Re: miscutils snag/questions for all

1995-11-26 Thread Ian Jackson
Bill Mitchell writes ("Re: miscutils snag/questions for all"): > [stuff] I have written a reply to this but I'm too annoyed for it to be wise for me to send it. I have saved it and will look at it again in a day or two and see if I still feel like sending it. Ian.

Re: miscutils snag/questions for all

1995-11-26 Thread Ian Jackson
Jeff Noxon writes ("Re: miscutils snag/questions for all"): > Agreed, but the util-linux people have already made up their minds to > replace fdisk 2.0 with fdisk 3.0. All recent fdisk 2 maintenance has > been happening in util-linux, and they're about to stop because the > program is overhacked,

Re: miscutils snag/questions for all

1995-11-26 Thread Raul Miller
Bill Mitchell: I think we need a good way to deal with this general situation which is simple enough to use not to need guru advice from the dpkg designer. I agree -- typically the best way of dealling with this situation is better documentation. Of course, where documentation fails (as

Lha copyright?

1995-11-26 Thread Karl Ferguson
Hi... I have finished a Debian distribution of LHA from sunsite. Now since the documentation is in Japanese I'm not exactly sure if it's copyright and under what conditions it's to be distributed. Would this go into the normal 1.0 distribution, contrib or non-free area? Or would it just not be a

Re: bogo-1.2-1 released

1995-11-26 Thread Jeff Noxon
With all due respect, I fail to see any value in being able to calculate BogoMips from the command line. The uptime command provides accurate system load information in a much more useful format. The BogoMips calculation just wastes CPU cycles, which is certainly not something you would want to d

Re: bogo-1.2-1 released

1995-11-26 Thread Karl Ferguson
> > With all due respect, I fail to see any value in being able to calculate > BogoMips from the command line. > > The uptime command provides accurate system load information in a much > more useful format. The BogoMips calculation just wastes CPU cycles, which > is certainly not something you

Bug#1903: memtest segfaults if given just one argument

1995-11-26 Thread Bill Mitchell
PACKAGE: memtest VERSION 0.1-1 root:/root# memtest 1024 Segmentation fault [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Mitchell)

Re: [miguel@nuclecu.unam.mx: New Linux/SPARC snapshot] (fwd)

1995-11-26 Thread Mail Archive
Bruce: Can we get a list called debian-sparc for the active work on the sparc port? Ian M.: Can we start setting up a tree? Make sure it says under contruction or somesuch David Miller: Do you want to be added to this list I assume it will be a moderate traffic list... I will try to get

Re: [miguel@nuclecu.unam.mx: New Linux/SPARC snapshot] (fwd)

1995-11-26 Thread David S. Miller
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 21:04:26 -0500 (EST) From: Mail Archive <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Bruce: Can we get a list called debian-sparc for the active work on the sparc port? Ian M.: Can we start setting up a tree? Make sure it says under contruction or somesuch David Miller: Do

Ian Murdock back on-line

1995-11-26 Thread Ian Murdock
Hello, I'm back. I've been out of commission for the last week or so with bronchitis. (Unfortunately, I spent Thanksgiving day in bed as a result. :/) I've neither read nor replied to any e-mail since last Sunday, and I haven't done any Debian-related work in the past week, either. I've got a