Re: volunteers wanted for driving/finalizing a DEP on debian/copyright format

2008-12-04 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, Dec 03 2008, Noah Slater wrote: > On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 10:52:39AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: >> Why do you need a separate mailing list for a single proposal? Please >> discuss this on debian-devel or debian-project, which are already perfectly >> adequate lists for this. > > We hav

Re: volunteers wanted for driving/finalizing a DEP on debian/copyright format

2008-12-04 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 01:04:14PM +, Noah Slater wrote: > On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 01:50:22PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 12:26:03PM +, Noah Slater wrote: > > > How should we go about collecting to the contributers? Should I post > > > a note to the wiki (al

Re: volunteers wanted for driving/finalizing a DEP on debian/copyright format

2008-12-03 Thread Noah Slater
On Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 09:50:15AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Rendez-vous after Lenny release on -devel :) Heh heh. Sure thing, Charles. -- Noah Slater, http://tumbolia.org/nslater -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTE

Re: volunteers wanted for driving/finalizing a DEP on debian/copyright format

2008-12-03 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 08:52:17PM +, Noah Slater a écrit : > > We have struggled enough with the proposal as it is. My fear is that > discussing > it on debian-devel will open it up to "fire-and-forget" criticism that lacks > context of previous discussions, is poorly thought out, results in

Re: volunteers wanted for driving/finalizing a DEP on debian/copyright format

2008-12-03 Thread Noah Slater
On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 10:52:39AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 11:49:25AM +, Noah Slater wrote: > > As one of the primary contributers to the copyright proposal I would > > obviously > > like to be involved in its ratification. I am guessing some of the other > > ma

Re: volunteers wanted for driving/finalizing a DEP on debian/copyright format

2008-12-03 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 11:49:25AM +, Noah Slater wrote: > As one of the primary contributers to the copyright proposal I would obviously > like to be involved in its ratification. I am guessing some of the other main > contributers would like to be involved too. > To get this started we need

Re: volunteers wanted for driving/finalizing a DEP on debian/copyright format

2008-12-03 Thread Noah Slater
On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 01:50:22PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 12:26:03PM +, Noah Slater wrote: > > How should we go about collecting to the contributers? Should I post > > a note to the wiki (alerting the subscribers) about this, and if so, > > where to direct pe

Re: volunteers wanted for driving/finalizing a DEP on debian/copyright format

2008-12-03 Thread Noah Slater
On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 12:57:33PM +0100, Simon Josefsson wrote: > > As one of the primary contributers to the copyright proposal I would > > obviously like to be involved in its ratification. I am guessing some of the > > other main contributers would like to be involved too. > > Great, then maybe

Re: volunteers wanted for driving/finalizing a DEP on debian/copyright format

2008-12-03 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 12:26:03PM +, Noah Slater wrote: > How should we go about collecting to the contributers? Should I post > a note to the wiki (alerting the subscribers) about this, and if so, > where to direct people for collaboration? It is up to you. From a management point of view, I

Re: volunteers wanted for driving/finalizing a DEP on debian/copyright format

2008-12-03 Thread Simon Josefsson
Noah Slater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hey, > > On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 12:25:20PM +0100, Simon Josefsson wrote: >> Stefano Zacchiroli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > The solution to your problem already exists (actually, it has been >> > *designed* for that): http://wiki.debian.org/Proposa

Re: volunteers wanted for driving/finalizing a DEP on debian/copyright format

2008-12-03 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 12:18:35PM +, Enrico Zini wrote: > The wish for encoding licenses in debtags categories periodically shows > up, so I collected some pointers to old discussions in the FAQ: > > > http://debtags.alioth.debian.org/faq.html#any-reason-why-there-are-no-license-tags-in-de

Re: volunteers wanted for driving/finalizing a DEP on debian/copyright format

2008-12-03 Thread Enrico Zini
On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 09:46:29PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 07:30:54PM +0100, Miriam Ruiz wrote: > > We should somehow tag those conflictive licenses with debtags, so that > > users can filter out the ones they don't wont easily. I don't object [...] > Except that

Re: volunteers wanted for driving/finalizing a DEP on debian/copyright format

2008-12-03 Thread Noah Slater
On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 01:05:56PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 11:49:25AM +, Noah Slater wrote: > > To get this started we need a mailing list and a repository, then we > > can place a notice on the wiki directing people to the mailing list > > and make the wiki p

Re: volunteers wanted for driving/finalizing a DEP on debian/copyright format

2008-12-03 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 11:49:25AM +, Noah Slater wrote: > To get this started we need a mailing list and a repository, then we > can place a notice on the wiki directing people to the mailing list > and make the wiki page immutable so that there is no confusion. Come on, do you really need al

Re: volunteers wanted for driving/finalizing a DEP on debian/copyright format

2008-12-03 Thread Noah Slater
Hey, On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 12:25:20PM +0100, Simon Josefsson wrote: > Stefano Zacchiroli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > The solution to your problem already exists (actually, it has been > > *designed* for that): http://wiki.debian.org/Proposals/CopyrightFormat > > , it "just" needs someone w

Re: volunteers wanted for driving/finalizing a DEP on debian/copyright format

2008-12-03 Thread Simon Josefsson
Stefano Zacchiroli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The solution to your problem already exists (actually, it has been > *designed* for that): http://wiki.debian.org/Proposals/CopyrightFormat > , it "just" needs someone with the energy of finalizing the proposal > (most likely via a DEP), so that is

Re: volunteers wanted for driving/finalizing a DEP on debian/copyright format

2008-12-03 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 07:16:44PM -0600, Raphael Geissert wrote: > > Except that debtags are right now for binary packages, whereas > > copyright is for source packages. > > Err, not quite right: > > Policy 4.5: > > Every package must be accompanied by a verbatim copy of its copyright and > > di

Re: volunteers wanted for driving/finalizing a DEP on debian/copyright format

2008-12-02 Thread Raphael Geissert
Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: [...] > Except that debtags are right now for binary packages, whereas > copyright is for source packages. Err, not quite right: Policy 4.5: > Every package must be accompanied by a verbatim copy of its copyright and > distribution license in the file */usr/share/doc/pac

Re: volunteers wanted for driving/finalizing a DEP on debian/copyright format

2008-12-02 Thread Raphael Geissert
Miriam Ruiz wrote: > 2008/12/2 Karl Goetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> Would something like apt-listbugs work? I know it doesnt address the >> offline issue, but seems to fit as a concept for the rest of the >> problem. > > Yep, that should be enough, as long as there is a way (with some > possible

Re: volunteers wanted for driving/finalizing a DEP on debian/copyright format

2008-12-02 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Miriam Ruiz dijo [Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 09:51:04PM +0100]: > > The solution to your problem already exists (actually, it has been > > *designed* for that): http://wiki.debian.org/Proposals/CopyrightFormat > > , it "just" needs someone with the energy of finalizing the proposal > > (most likely via a

Re: volunteers wanted for driving/finalizing a DEP on debian/copyright format

2008-12-02 Thread Miriam Ruiz
2008/12/2 Karl Goetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Would something like apt-listbugs work? I know it doesnt address the > offline issue, but seems to fit as a concept for the rest of the > problem. Yep, that should be enough, as long as there is a way (with some possible development in the future) for a

Re: volunteers wanted for driving/finalizing a DEP on debian/copyright format

2008-12-02 Thread Karl Goetz
On Tue, 2 Dec 2008 22:36:15 +0100 "Miriam Ruiz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/12/2 Drake Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Quoth Miriam Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 2008-12-02 21:51:04 +0100: > >> Well, not exactly, you cannot easily see the copyright file before > >> installing the package, can

Re: volunteers wanted for driving/finalizing a DEP on debian/copyright format

2008-12-02 Thread Miriam Ruiz
2008/12/2 Drake Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Quoth Miriam Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 2008-12-02 21:51:04 +0100: >> Well, not exactly, you cannot easily see the copyright file before >> installing the package, can you? > > p.d.o appears to permit viewing copyright files of packages currently > in

Re: volunteers wanted for driving/finalizing a DEP on debian/copyright format

2008-12-02 Thread Drake Wilson
Quoth Miriam Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 2008-12-02 21:51:04 +0100: > Well, not exactly, you cannot easily see the copyright file before > installing the package, can you? p.d.o appears to permit viewing copyright files of packages currently in the archive. As an example: http://packages.deb

Re: volunteers wanted for driving/finalizing a DEP on debian/copyright format

2008-12-02 Thread James Vega
On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 09:51:04PM +0100, Miriam Ruiz wrote: > 2008/12/2 Stefano Zacchiroli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > [ M-F-T set to -devel ] > > > > On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 07:30:54PM +0100, Miriam Ruiz wrote: > >> We should somehow tag those conflictive licenses with debtags, so that > >> users ca

Re: volunteers wanted for driving/finalizing a DEP on debian/copyright format

2008-12-02 Thread Miriam Ruiz
2008/12/2 Stefano Zacchiroli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > [ M-F-T set to -devel ] > > On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 07:30:54PM +0100, Miriam Ruiz wrote: >> We should somehow tag those conflictive licenses with debtags, so that >> users can filter out the ones they don't wont easily. I don't object > > Except t

volunteers wanted for driving/finalizing a DEP on debian/copyright format

2008-12-02 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
[ M-F-T set to -devel ] On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 07:30:54PM +0100, Miriam Ruiz wrote: > We should somehow tag those conflictive licenses with debtags, so that > users can filter out the ones they don't wont easily. I don't object Except that debtags are right now for binary packages, whereas copyr