Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-20 Thread peter.kourzanov
On Mon, Mar 20, 2006 at 05:41:26PM -0300, Daniel Ruoso wrote: > Em S?b, 2006-03-18 ?s 23:17 +0100, Pjotr Kourzanov escreveu: > > Yes. However, I think that 'setting up buildd' is the least difficult > > of those tasks. It is by far more difficult to produce patches for all > > 'standard debian pack

Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-20 Thread Daniel Ruoso
Em Sáb, 2006-03-18 às 23:17 +0100, Pjotr Kourzanov escreveu: > Yes. However, I think that 'setting up buildd' is the least difficult > of those tasks. It is by far more difficult to produce patches for all > 'standard debian packages' that make them first of all, cross-compile > correctly, and (onl

Re: {SPAM} Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-18 Thread Pjotr Kourzanov
Daniel Ruoso wrote: Em Qui, 2006-03-16 às 15:09 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 01:46:59PM -0300, Daniel Ruoso wrote: Em Seg, 2006-03-13 ?s 17:30 +0100, Pjotr Kourzanov escreveu: Daniel Ruoso wrote: This is a call for help :). If you want to

Re: {SPAM} Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-16 Thread Daniel Ruoso
Em Qui, 2006-03-16 às 15:09 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: > On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 01:46:59PM -0300, Daniel Ruoso wrote: > > Em Seg, 2006-03-13 ?s 17:30 +0100, Pjotr Kourzanov escreveu: > > > Daniel Ruoso wrote: > > > >This is a call for help :). If you want to help, just take over the task >

Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-16 Thread peter.kourzanov
On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 01:46:59PM -0300, Daniel Ruoso wrote: > Em Seg, 2006-03-13 ?s 17:30 +0100, Pjotr Kourzanov escreveu: > > Daniel Ruoso wrote: > > >This is a call for help :). If you want to help, just take over the task > > >of setting a uclibc-i386 buildd up. > > What is the need for buildd

Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-16 Thread peter.kourzanov
On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 03:39:41PM +0200, Riku Voipio wrote: > > >[2] http://www.emdebian.org/slind.html > > > This one looks dead. > > I understand we live in a gentoo-driven 0-day bleeding edge culture, but > this is quite spectacular deducment. SLIND was published exactly two > weeks ago in F

Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-13 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 07:02:18PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 10:38:52AM +0100, Pjotr Kourzanov wrote: > > Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > >On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 01:05:38AM +0100, Pjotr Kourzanov wrote: > > >>Dpkg maintainer(s), what do you think is the correct procedure f

Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-13 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 10:38:52AM +0100, Pjotr Kourzanov wrote: > Wouter Verhelst wrote: > >On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 01:05:38AM +0100, Pjotr Kourzanov wrote: > >>Dpkg maintainer(s), what do you think is the correct procedure for > >>additing these things i.e., extra -vendor and -libc fields? I alre

Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-13 Thread Daniel Ruoso
Em Seg, 2006-03-13 às 17:30 +0100, Pjotr Kourzanov escreveu: > Daniel Ruoso wrote: > >This is a call for help :). If you want to help, just take over the task > >of setting a uclibc-i386 buildd up. > What is the need for buildd? Basically, what is described in http://www.debian.org/devel/buildd/se

Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-13 Thread Eric Cooper
On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 01:05:38AM +0100, Pjotr Kourzanov wrote: > Dpkg maintainer(s), what do you think is the correct procedure for > additing these things i.e., extra -vendor and -libc fields? I already > have a patch for dpkg package which adds-in uclibc variants... I hope toolchain-source mai

Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-13 Thread Pjotr Kourzanov
Daniel Ruoso wrote: Em Seg, 2006-03-13 às 15:04 +0100, Pjotr Kourzanov escreveu: Also, looking at http://cvs.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/?cvsroot=i386-uclibc I see only binutils and gcc. In the other thread "cross-compiling Debian packages" I already mentioned that binutils and gcc

Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-13 Thread Daniel Ruoso
Em Seg, 2006-03-13 às 15:04 +0100, Pjotr Kourzanov escreveu: > Also, looking at > http://cvs.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/?cvsroot=i386-uclibc > I see only binutils and gcc. In the other thread "cross-compiling Debian > packages" > I already mentioned that binutils and gcc are trivial to

Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-13 Thread Pjotr Kourzanov
Riku Voipio wrote: [2] http://www.emdebian.org/slind.html This one looks dead. I understand we live in a gentoo-driven 0-day bleeding edge culture, but this is quite spectacular deducment. SLIND was published exactly two weeks ago in FOSDEM and it is already dead? ...and

Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-13 Thread Riku Voipio
> >[2] http://www.emdebian.org/slind.html > This one looks dead. I understand we live in a gentoo-driven 0-day bleeding edge culture, but this is quite spectacular deducment. SLIND was published exactly two weeks ago in FOSDEM and it is already dead? >> ...and i386-uclibc[3] alioth project, wh

Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-13 Thread Thiemo Seufer
On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 01:05:38AM +0100, Pjotr Kourzanov wrote: [snip] > >>There's also kfreebsd-{i386,amd64}, so why don't you use uclibc-i386? > >> > >> > > > >Actually, I disagree. To me it makes perfect sense the way it > >currently is, namely: > > kernel-arch-libc > > > >kernel and libc c

Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-13 Thread Pjotr Kourzanov
Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Pjotr Kourzanov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Riku Voipio wrote: On Sun, Mar 12, 2006 at 03:49:01PM +0100, Peter Kourzanov wrote: Can anyone please explain why this architecture is named hurd-i386 rather that i386-hurd? because dpkg-arc

Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-13 Thread Pjotr Kourzanov
Riku Voipio wrote: On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 10:38:52AM +0100, Pjotr Kourzanov wrote: Wouter Verhelst wrote: Not being a dpkg maintainer, I find this to be a gratuitous change for no good reason (other than "it looks a bit better"). I don't see what point it would serve. May

Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-13 Thread Riku Voipio
On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 10:38:52AM +0100, Pjotr Kourzanov wrote: > Wouter Verhelst wrote: > >Not being a dpkg maintainer, I find this to be a gratuitous change for > >no good reason (other than "it looks a bit better"). I don't see what > >point it would serve. > Maybe the ability to run Debian on

Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-13 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Pjotr Kourzanov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Riku Voipio wrote: > >>On Sun, Mar 12, 2006 at 03:49:01PM +0100, Peter Kourzanov wrote: >> >> >>> Can anyone please explain why this architecture is named hurd-i386 >>> rather that i386-hurd? >>> >>> >> >>because dpkg-architecture has a line like this:

Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-13 Thread Pjotr Kourzanov
Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 01:05:38AM +0100, Pjotr Kourzanov wrote: Dpkg maintainer(s), what do you think is the correct procedure for additing these things i.e., extra -vendor and -libc fields? I already have a patch for dpkg package which adds-in uclibc variants...

Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-12 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 01:05:38AM +0100, Pjotr Kourzanov wrote: > Dpkg maintainer(s), what do you think is the correct procedure for > additing these things i.e., extra -vendor and -libc fields? I already > have a patch for dpkg package which adds-in uclibc variants... Not being a dpkg maintainer

Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-12 Thread Pjotr Kourzanov
Martin Michlmayr wrote: * Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-03-13 00:04]: I am adding some additional archs to my local installation like i386-uclibc, which makes hurd-i386 an exception to the rule of having the CPU arch first and the OS name the next. There's also kfr

Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-12 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-03-13 00:04]: > > I am adding some additional archs to my local installation like > > i386-uclibc, which makes hurd-i386 an exception to the rule of > > having the CPU arch first and the OS name the next. > There's also kfreebsd-{i386,amd64}, so wh

Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-12 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Pjotr Kourzanov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I am adding some additional archs to my local installation like i386-uclibc, > which makes hurd-i386 an exception to the rule of having the CPU arch first > and the OS name the next. There's also kfreebsd-{i386,amd64}, so why don't you use uclibc-i386?

Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-12 Thread Pjotr Kourzanov
Riku Voipio wrote: On Sun, Mar 12, 2006 at 03:49:01PM +0100, Peter Kourzanov wrote: Can anyone please explain why this architecture is named hurd-i386 rather that i386-hurd? because dpkg-architecture has a line like this: return "$os-$cpu"; older dpkg (of sarge age) was more flexib

Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-12 Thread Pjotr Kourzanov
Lars Wirzenius wrote: su, 2006-03-12 kello 15:49 +0100, Peter Kourzanov kirjoitti: Can anyone please explain why this architecture is named hurd-i386 rather that i386-hurd? I guess it just happened to seem like a good name at the time. Why, is there a problem with the name? Does it m

Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-12 Thread Pjotr Kourzanov
Florian Ludwig wrote: Peter Kourzanov wrote: Dear DDs, Can anyone please explain why this architecture is named hurd-i386 rather that i386-hurd? Is there any rule that says that the OS name should come before CPU name? Is there any rule that says that the architecture should came before

Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-12 Thread Riku Voipio
On Sun, Mar 12, 2006 at 03:49:01PM +0100, Peter Kourzanov wrote: > Can anyone please explain why this architecture is named hurd-i386 > rather that i386-hurd? because dpkg-architecture has a line like this: return "$os-$cpu"; older dpkg (of sarge age) was more flexible, so likely the hurd na

Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-12 Thread Lars Wirzenius
su, 2006-03-12 kello 15:49 +0100, Peter Kourzanov kirjoitti: > Can anyone please explain why this architecture is named hurd-i386 > rather that i386-hurd? I guess it just happened to seem like a good name at the time. Why, is there a problem with the name? Does it matter? Debian architecture na

Re: question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-12 Thread Florian Ludwig
Peter Kourzanov wrote: Dear DDs, Can anyone please explain why this architecture is named hurd-i386 rather that i386-hurd? Is there any rule that says that the OS name should come before CPU name? Is there any rule that says that the architecture should came before the OS name? Pjotr

question on hurd-i386 Debian architecture

2006-03-12 Thread Peter Kourzanov
Dear DDs, Can anyone please explain why this architecture is named hurd-i386 rather that i386-hurd? Is there any rule that says that the OS name should come before CPU name? Pjotr Kourzanov -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAI