Re: proposal for a more efficient download process

2006-06-01 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * curt manucredo (hansycm) [Fri, May 26 2006, 07:53:58PM]: > this can lead to this: > -- > if a patch is available: > > 1. look in /var/cache/apt/packages for the package to be updated. if the > old one is there patch it's files. md5sum. happy? if not... > > 2. try

Re: proposal for a more efficient download process

2006-06-01 Thread Frank Küster
A Mennucc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Absolutely true. Look at this > > $ ls -s tetex-doc_3.0-17_all.deb tetex-doc_3.0-18_all.deb > 42388 tetex-doc_3.0-18_all.deb 42340 tetex-doc_3.0-17_all.deb > > $ bsdiff tetex-doc_3.0-17_all.deb tetex-doc_3.0-18_all.deb brutal.bsdiff > $ ls -s brutal.bsdiff >

Re: proposal for a more efficient download process

2006-06-01 Thread A Mennucc
hi by quite a coincidence, while you people were discussing this idea, I was already implementing it, in a package called 'debdelta' : see http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2006/05/msg03120.html Moreover, by some telepathy :-) , I already included features you were proposing, and addressed

Re: proposal for a more efficient download process

2006-05-28 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
"curt manucredo (hansycm)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Nope. You will need to keep all normal debs anyway, for new > >installations. > > i thought it could be possible in the end to download the tree-package > and all its patches to then h

re: proposal for a more efficient download process

2006-05-28 Thread curt manucredo (hansycm)
Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Anyway, this was proposed some times now. Have you actually read the >old >threads and can explain why your proposal is better and actually works? >Why haven't you implemented it yet? not right now. i just have found out that there were some sam

re: proposal for a more efficient download process

2006-05-28 Thread curt manucredo (hansycm)
Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Nope. You will need to keep all normal debs anyway, for new >installations. i thought it could be possible in the end to download the tree-package and all its patches to then have the latest package for a new install! so i thought there will b

Re: proposal for a more efficient download process

2006-05-27 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Tyler MacDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> That is quite unacceptable. We have debs in debian up to 160Mb >> (packed) and 580Mb unpacked. That would require 2.7 Gb and nearly 10Gb >> ram respectively. >> >> Seems to be quite useless for patchi

Re: proposal for a more efficient download process

2006-05-27 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
"curt manucredo (hansycm)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > II.B. on the upload and storage side > > > the upload process may need some more changes though (e.g.: for > automation). if this ever comes true, there will have to be a period of > time where both, the

Re: proposal for a more efficient download process

2006-05-27 Thread Tyler MacDonald
Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That is quite unacceptable. We have debs in debian up to 160Mb > (packed) and 580Mb unpacked. That would require 2.7 Gb and nearly 10Gb > ram respectively. > > Seems to be quite useless for patching full debs. One would have to > limit it to a file

Re: proposal for a more efficient download process

2006-05-26 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Tyler MacDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > +1. We've been using bsdiff (http://www.daemonology.net/bsdiff/) at > work for some internal stuff and it's great. Oh, and one more thing: | bsdiff is quite memory-hungry. It requires max(17*n,9*n+m)+O(1) | bytes of memory, where n is the size

Re: proposal for a more efficient download process

2006-05-26 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Tyler MacDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > http://www.daemonology.net/bsdiff/ How does that compare with rsync batch files? MfG Goswin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: proposal for a more efficient download process

2006-05-26 Thread Tyler MacDonald
> I. the reason why i suggest a patch-oriented download process +1. We've been using bsdiff (http://www.daemonology.net/bsdiff/) at work for some internal stuff and it's great. Furthermore, since unstable has gone to using diffs for the Packages files, my dselect updates have been *way* fa

proposal for a more efficient download process

2006-05-26 Thread curt manucredo (hansycm)
Dear Debian-Developers All Over The World! may i introduce my, proposal for a more efficient download process I. the reason why i suggest a patch-oriented download process II. a brief description II.A. on the