Hi,
>>"Raul" == Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Raul> It's that things which people haven't invented yet concept which
Raul> has had me objecting to this concept of "policy must be
Raul> followed". If you look at policy as a set of *goals* rather
Raul> than a set of *rules* I think you'll
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I wish you would talk to Raul directly. He points out that
> violations of policy shall be enforced thus:
> a) since policy is supposed to be authoritative for bug filers, and
> policy violation can be flagged as a bug.
> b) any disputes ab
Hi,
>>"Chris" == Chris Fearnley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Chris> 'Manoj Srivastava wrote:'
>> Well, I think if one is not constrained to follow policy, nor
>> required to do so, I see no reason to actually follow policy. Why
>> is it so bad to require policy to be followed?
Chris> How would yo
'Manoj Srivastava wrote:'
>
> Well, I think if one is not constrained to follow policy, nor
> required to do so, I see no reason to actually follow policy. Why is
> it so bad to require policy to be followed?
How would you enforce it? Why require something which your police
force cannot enf
Hi,
>>"James" == James Troup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
James> Are you being nasty to me because I FUBARed kernel-package or
James> what?
;-)
manoj
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Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> OK. I give. And, on the principle that if you can't beat 'em, join
> 'em, I now agree with Jame Troup and Dale Scheetz and formally
> declare that Policy does not govern may packages from this point on,
> and shall close any policy related Bugs ASAP.
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> OK. I give. And, on the principle that if you can't beat 'em,
> join 'em, I now agree with Jame Troup and Dale Scheetz and formally
> declare that Policy does not govern may packages from this point on,
> and shall close any policy related Bugs
Hi,
>>"Philip" == Philip Hands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Philip> 2) this is going way off topic, and has been quite tedious for
Philip> some time.
OK. I give. And, on the principle that if you can't beat 'em,
join 'em, I now agree with Jame Troup and Dale Scheetz and formally
declare
On 29 Apr 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> Hi,
> >>"Dale" == Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Dale> The Policy Statement is a set of rules for the behavior of
> Dale> developers, set down by the "ruling body", sometimes referred to
> Dale> as "the government". When those rules are view
On 29 Apr 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> Hi,
> >>"Dale" == Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Dale> The Policy Statement is a set of rules for the behavior of
> Dale> developers, set down by the "ruling body", sometimes referred to
> Dale> as "the government". When those rules are view
Hi,
>>"Dale" == Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Dale> The Policy Statement is a set of rules for the behavior of
Dale> developers, set down by the "ruling body", sometimes referred to
Dale> as "the government". When those rules are viewed as more
Dale> important than the people participat
On 28 Apr 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> I prefer the codification of rules that have to be followed
> and putting them out in the open, rather than continuing to depend on
> the judgement of a few good people in perpetuity. Some have called my
> view fascist.
>
> Codification o
Hi,
>>"Raul" == Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Raul> Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> You do have a tendency to jump to untenable positions. Who said
>> that we shall remove all packages with bugs or all packages that
>> fail to follow policy?
Raul> You made an ambiguous st
On 28 Apr 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> Is that such a bad thing, really? I would rather that the
> policy documents be corrected, and held as a set of rules htat
> have to be followed, woth an exception for the items that happen to
Debian is great and everything, but it
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You do have a tendency to jump to untenable positions. Who
> said that we shall remove all packages with bugs or all packages that
> fail to follow policy?
You made an ambiguous statement. You made a statement about how policy
should have more
Hi,
>>"Raul" == Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Raul> "Guy" == Guy Maor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Guy> The constitution places no limitations on the developer's
Guy> authority with regard to their own work. Your version says that
Guy> the maintainers must follow policy.
Raul> Manoj Sriv
"Guy" == Guy Maor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Guy> The constitution places no limitations on the developer's
> Guy> authority with regard to their own work. Your version says that
> Guy> the maintainers must follow policy.
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is that such a bad thing,
Hi,
>>"Guy" == Guy Maor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Guy> Christian Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> I don't see how this conflicts with the proposed
>> constitution. Please give me more info on that.
Guy> The constitution places no limitations on the developer's
Guy> authority with regard t
Apologies are due for my not trimming the crossposting before; I meant to,
but I forgot to. As I understand things, there should be no crossposting
amongst the debian mailing lists.
If I make further comment, therefore, I will be careful to trim the
mail distribution to one of them only, and send
Hi,
What is this policy group you are talking about? AFAIK, there
is no such beast; there is just an public, open mailing list, which
is more and less than a formal Policy group.
The mailing list was formed to reduce clutter on the devel
list, which is rapidly becoming a catch-
On 21 Apr 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> Hi.
>
> Philip> Does that satisfy both sides ?
>
> This satisfies me. Indeed, this has been my position all the
> while, but evidently the joys of the fray and the intellectual
> stimulation offered by the flow of reason has been a feast for my
>
Hi.
Philip> Does that satisfy both sides ?
This satisfies me. Indeed, this has been my position all the
while, but evidently the joys of the fray and the intellectual
stimulation offered by the flow of reason has been a feast for my
soul, and, added to my evident inability to coherentl
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