Re: email backend for fedmsg

2020-03-28 Thread clime
On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 at 23:11, Peter Silva wrote: > Most Sarrracenia stuff is tied to AMQP, but next-gen messages are called > v03 (version 3) they use a JSON payload > for all the information, and that makes it somewhat protocol independent. > There is also a 500 line MQTT demo > that implements

Re: email backend for fedmsg

2020-03-25 Thread Peter Silva
Most Sarrracenia stuff is tied to AMQP, but next-gen messages are called v03 (version 3) they use a JSON payload for all the information, and that makes it somewhat protocol independent. There is also a 500 line MQTT demo that implements a file replication network, using the same JSON messages, and

Re: email backend for fedmsg

2020-03-25 Thread clime
I was looking into the email approach more and maybe I found a few improvements: - each communicating agent has an exim instance - there are a few dns servers that replicate their configuration between each other (to provide redundancy) - these servers store subscriptions of the agents for each to

Re: email backend for fedmsg

2020-03-25 Thread clime
> > > I work in telecom for meteorology, and we ended up with a general method > for file copying (catchphrase: rsync on steroids*.) ( *every catchphrase is > a distortion, no dis to rsync, but in certain cases we do work much faster, > it just communicates the idea.) Sarracenia ( > https://github

Re: email backend for fedmsg

2020-03-24 Thread clime
On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 at 01:00, clime wrote: > > On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 at 22:45, Nicolas Dandrimont wrote: > > > > On Tue, Mar 24, 2020, at 21:51, clime wrote: > > > On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 at 20:40, Nicolas Dandrimont wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi! > > > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 22, 2020, at 13:06, clime wrot

Re: email backend for fedmsg

2020-03-24 Thread clime
On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 at 22:45, Nicolas Dandrimont wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 24, 2020, at 21:51, clime wrote: > > On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 at 20:40, Nicolas Dandrimont wrote: > > > > > > Hi! > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 22, 2020, at 13:06, clime wrote: > > > > Hello! > > > > > > > > Ad. https://lists.debian.org

Re: email backend for fedmsg

2020-03-24 Thread Nicolas Dandrimont
On Tue, Mar 24, 2020, at 21:51, clime wrote: > On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 at 20:40, Nicolas Dandrimont wrote: > > > > Hi! > > > > On Sun, Mar 22, 2020, at 13:06, clime wrote: > > > Hello! > > > > > > Ad. https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2016/07/msg00377.html - > > > fedmsg usage in Debian. > > > > >

Re: email backend for fedmsg

2020-03-24 Thread Paul Gevers
Hi Clime, On 24-03-2020 21:51, clime wrote: > So do you have the opposite? I do some clicking action somewhere and > it will send an email to a certain mailing list to inform human > beings? Or let's not just clicking but e.g. `git push` (something that > you can still do from command line). > >

Re: email backend for fedmsg

2020-03-24 Thread clime
On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 at 20:40, Nicolas Dandrimont wrote: > > Hi! > > On Sun, Mar 22, 2020, at 13:06, clime wrote: > > Hello! > > > > Ad. https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2016/07/msg00377.html - > > fedmsg usage in Debian. > > > > There is a note: "it seems that people actually like parsing ema

Re: email backend for fedmsg

2020-03-24 Thread Nicolas Dandrimont
Hi! On Sun, Mar 22, 2020, at 13:06, clime wrote: > Hello! > > Ad. https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2016/07/msg00377.html - > fedmsg usage in Debian. > > There is a note: "it seems that people actually like parsing emails" This was just a way to say that fedmsg never got much of a user base

Re: email backend for fedmsg

2020-03-24 Thread Peter Silva
MQTT is the best thing going for interop purposes. On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 1:20 PM Jeremy Stanley wrote: > On 2020-03-24 13:09:35 -0400 (-0400), Peter Silva wrote: > [...] > > We could talk about the merits of various protocols (I see fedmsg > > uses ZeroMQ) but that is a deep rabbit hole... to

Re: email backend for fedmsg

2020-03-24 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2020-03-24 13:09:35 -0400 (-0400), Peter Silva wrote: [...] > We could talk about the merits of various protocols (I see fedmsg > uses ZeroMQ) but that is a deep rabbit hole... to me, fedmsg looks > like it is making a ZeroMQ version of a broker (which is a bit > ironic given the original point

Re: email backend for fedmsg

2020-03-24 Thread Peter Silva
hi, totally different take on this... We could talk about the merits of various protocols (I see fedmsg uses ZeroMQ) but that is a deep rabbit hole... to me, fedmsg looks like it is making a ZeroMQ version of a broker (which is a bit ironic given the original point of that protocol) trying to buil

Re: email backend for fedmsg

2020-03-23 Thread clime
The email backend might be quite a heavy-weight idea ... although I think it would do the job if properly setup and _very_ reliably. I was thinking about something similar to google pub/sub. Another approach how to add reliability to the current fedmsg would be to add an optional sqlite persistenc

email backend for fedmsg

2020-03-22 Thread clime
Hello! Ad. https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2016/07/msg00377.html - fedmsg usage in Debian. There is a note: "it seems that people actually like parsing emails" What about adding email backend to fedmsg then. Wouldn't it be an interesting idea? It could basically rely on postfix for sending