Re: Behaviour inconsistency between apt and aptitude (on nvidia-related packages)

2018-09-26 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2018-09-26 10:38 -0400, Boyuan Yang wrote: > I just encountered some weird problem around installing bumblebee-nvidia > using > apt and aptitude on Debian Unstable. Here's what I did: > > $ sudo apt purge '*nvidia*' > $ sudo apt autoremove --purge >

Behaviour inconsistency between apt and aptitude (on nvidia-related packages)

2018-09-26 Thread Boyuan Yang
Dear all, I just encountered some weird problem around installing bumblebee-nvidia using apt and aptitude on Debian Unstable. Here's what I did: $ sudo apt purge '*nvidia*' $ sudo apt autoremove --purge $ sudo apt update $ dpkg --print-architecture amd64 $ dpkg --print-foreig

Re: what do people feel think of changing the configuration file path from ~/.aptitude/config to ~/.config/aptitude

2018-04-29 Thread Chris Lamb
project is unlikely to alter this nor endear your request to the aptitude maintainers. As implied in my original reply, a general discussion regarding a distribution-wide move to XDG ~/.config directories might be suitable for -devel, but any further discussion about the aptitude- specific case sho

Re: what do people feel think of changing the configuration file path from ~/.aptitude/config to ~/.config/aptitude

2018-04-29 Thread shirish शिरीष
Reply in-line :- On 29/04/2018, Chris Lamb wrote: > Shirish, > Chris, >> Had already done it, see #894332 , But don't think it's not going to >> go anywhere from the last two times :( as it seems the effort to do it >> is not the worth the effort as shared by the maintainer. >> >> At least I t

Re: what do people feel think of changing the configuration file path from ~/.aptitude/config to ~/.config/aptitude

2018-04-29 Thread Chris Lamb
Shirish, > Had already done it, see #894332 , But don't think it's not going to > go anywhere from the last two times :( as it seems the effort to do it > is not the worth the effort as shared by the maintainer. > > At least I tried, well guess just will have to learn to live with it. Thank you

Re: what do people feel think of changing the configuration file path from ~/.aptitude/config to ~/.config/aptitude

2018-04-29 Thread shirish शिरीष
at bottom :- On 29/04/2018, Chris Lamb wrote: > Hi shirish, > >> Re: what do people feel think of changing the configuration file >> path from ~/.aptitude/config to ~/.config/aptitude > > Unless you are requesting a distribution-wide move from ~/.foo > to XDG ~/.config

Re: what do people feel think of changing the configuration file path from ~/.aptitude/config to ~/.config/aptitude

2018-04-29 Thread Chris Lamb
Hi shirish, > Re: what do people feel think of changing the configuration file > path from ~/.aptitude/config to ~/.config/aptitude Unless you are requesting a distribution-wide move from ~/.foo to XDG ~/.config/foo, filing a wishlist bug against the aptitude package would seem

what do people feel think of changing the configuration file path from ~/.aptitude/config to ~/.config/aptitude

2018-04-29 Thread shirish शिरीष
Dear all, First of all thank you all the fine people who have contributed to packaging and maintaining the whole suit of apt, aptitude, apt-get, dpkg low and high-level variety of tools in Debian for system administration and making good choices. Please CC me if you any thoughts as although I&#

Re: aptitude has Priority: standard, why?

2015-04-02 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Henrique de Moraes Holschuh (2015-04-02 21:52:50) > In this era of wider displays (even text-mode), it would make a lot of > sense to change its default display filter to include the archive by > default. > > FWIW, here's the display format I use in aptitude (chang

Re: aptitude has Priority: standard, why?

2015-04-02 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015, at 16:43, The Wanderer wrote: > On 04/01/2015 at 12:02 PM, Peter Samuelson wrote: > > That sounds like you believe aptitude has only a command-line > > interface. > > I was indeed only aware of its command-line interface, until just > yesterday;

Re: aptitude has Priority: standard, why?

2015-04-02 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 31 mar 15, 17:29:25, Andrew Shadura wrote: > Hi, > > On 31 March 2015 at 17:00, Matt Zagrabelny wrote: > > I've grepped debian-devel, but cannot find an email that was sent to > > the list some months ago about tweaks to /etc/apt/apt.conf (IIRC) to > >

Re: aptitude has Priority: standard, why?

2015-04-01 Thread Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
not viable for actual use - except perhaps by people who already know completely what they are doing and how to override aptitude's suggestions. That sounds like you believe aptitude has only a command-line interface. I was indeed only aware of its command-line interface, until just yesterd

Re: aptitude has Priority: standard, why?

2015-04-01 Thread The Wanderer
actual use - except perhaps by people who >> already know completely what they are doing and how to override >> aptitude's suggestions. > > That sounds like you believe aptitude has only a command-line > interface. I was indeed only aware of its command-line interface, unt

Re: aptitude has Priority: standard, why?

2015-04-01 Thread Russ Allbery
The Wanderer writes: > I remember, years ago, I asked on some Debian list what the intended > replacement for apt-cache was, since I'd been told that apt-get was > deprecated in favor of aptitude and I'd seen that aptitude did not seem > to have equivalents for the apt-

Re: aptitude has Priority: standard, why?

2015-04-01 Thread Peter Samuelson
[The Wanderer] > it is IMO not viable for actual use - except perhaps by people who > already know completely what they are doing and how to override > aptitude's suggestions. That sounds like you believe aptitude has only a command-line interface. Mostly I use its full-screen i

Re: aptitude has Priority: standard, why?

2015-03-31 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Tue, 2015-03-31 at 19:34 -0700, Nikolaus Rath wrote: > Note that this does not seem to be due to a lack of people willing to > work on it though, cf. #750135. Yeah, I was following that bug in silence ;-) Cheers, Chris. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature

Re: aptitude has Priority: standard, why?

2015-03-31 Thread Nikolaus Rath
ly just select what I > want and install it... > > IMHO aptitude is one of the hearts of Debian, since it makes package > management a pleasure compared to anything else I'd know within or > outside of Debian. > > Development seems to be stalled these days, [..] Note

Re: aptitude has Priority: standard, why?

2015-03-31 Thread Wookey
+++ The Wanderer [2015-03-31 11:36 -0400]: > On 03/31/2015 at 11:29 AM, Andrew Shadura wrote: > > On 31 March 2015 at 17:00, Matt Zagrabelny > > wrote: > >> Thus, I believe there are a couple of knobs to turn to make > >> aptitude behave more expectedly. > &g

Re: aptitude has Priority: standard, why?

2015-03-31 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Tue, 2015-03-31 at 23:18 +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > No, it is not. It used to be, but apt's dependency resolver is far > superior to aptitude's these days. Are there so many cases where you need it? I usually just select what I want and install it... IMHO aptitude is one

Re: aptitude has Priority: standard, why?

2015-03-31 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 10:18:50AM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Tue, Mar 31, 2015, at 05:14, Fabian Greffrath wrote: > > I am curious why the aptitude package still has Priority: standard, i.e. > > why it is installed next to apt in each and every Debi

Re: aptitude has Priority: standard, why?

2015-03-31 Thread Josh Triplett
do find it quite an improvement over apt-get, but I still have several use cases for which I currently use aptitude and for which I do not see an obvious alternative with apt: - Every time I update, aptitude lets me browse newly added packages, which I find quite helpful to keep up with what&#

Re: aptitude has Priority: standard, why?

2015-03-31 Thread The Wanderer
On 03/31/2015 at 11:29 AM, Andrew Shadura wrote: > Hi, > > On 31 March 2015 at 17:00, Matt Zagrabelny > wrote: > >> I've grepped debian-devel, but cannot find an email that was sent >> to the list some months ago about tweaks to /etc/apt/apt.conf >> (IIR

Re: aptitude has Priority: standard, why?

2015-03-31 Thread Andrew Shadura
Hi, On 31 March 2015 at 17:00, Matt Zagrabelny wrote: > I've grepped debian-devel, but cannot find an email that was sent to > the list some months ago about tweaks to /etc/apt/apt.conf (IIRC) to > make aptitude behave more sanely. > Thus, I believe there are a couple of knob

Re: aptitude has Priority: standard, why?

2015-03-31 Thread Matt Zagrabelny
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 9:32 AM, The Wanderer wrote: > Repeatedly over the years - I'd almost say consistently - I've seen > aptitude report that a requested package change (install, remove, or > some combination) would result in an invalid or conflicting dependency > si

Re: aptitude has Priority: standard, why?

2015-03-31 Thread The Wanderer
On 03/31/2015 at 09:18 AM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Tue, Mar 31, 2015, at 05:14, Fabian Greffrath wrote: > >> I am curious why the aptitude package still has Priority: standard, >> i.e. why it is installed next to apt in each and every Debian >> installatio

Re: aptitude has Priority: standard, why?

2015-03-31 Thread Matthias Klumpp
2015-03-31 15:18 GMT+02:00 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh : > On Tue, Mar 31, 2015, at 05:14, Fabian Greffrath wrote: >> I am curious why the aptitude package still has Priority: standard, i.e. >> why it is installed next to apt in each and every Debian installation? >> >>

Re: aptitude has Priority: standard, why?

2015-03-31 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 31.03.2015 um 15:18 schrieb Henrique de Moraes Holschuh: > On Tue, Mar 31, 2015, at 05:14, Fabian Greffrath wrote: >> I am curious why the aptitude package still has Priority: standard, i.e. >> why it is installed next to apt in each and every Debian installation? >&

Re: aptitude has Priority: standard, why?

2015-03-31 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015, at 10:22, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 10:18:50AM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > apt-get is the simple tool everyone knows about, though. It also needs > > another simple tools like apt-cache to be really usable. > > It's tangential to th

Re: aptitude has Priority: standard, why?

2015-03-31 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 10:18:50AM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > apt-get is the simple tool everyone knows about, though. It also needs > another simple tools like apt-cache to be really usable. It's tangential to the main topic of this thread, but you might want to give /usr/bin/apt

Re: aptitude has Priority: standard, why?

2015-03-31 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015, at 05:14, Fabian Greffrath wrote: > I am curious why the aptitude package still has Priority: standard, i.e. > why it is installed next to apt in each and every Debian installation? > > Aptitude isn't recommended for dist-upgrading since Lenny, I think.

Re: aptitude has Priority: standard, why?

2015-03-31 Thread Marc Haber
On Tue, 31 Mar 2015 10:14:16 +0200, Fabian Greffrath wrote: >I am curious why the aptitude package still has Priority: standard, i.e. >why it is installed next to apt in each and every Debian installation? > >Aptitude isn't recommended for dist-upgrading since Lenny, I think

aptitude has Priority: standard, why?

2015-03-31 Thread Fabian Greffrath
Hi there, I am curious why the aptitude package still has Priority: standard, i.e. why it is installed next to apt in each and every Debian installation? Aptitude isn't recommended for dist-upgrading since Lenny, I think. Do we really need to have two CLI package management tools installe

Re: aptitude dependency-resolver behaviors (was Re: apt-get install sysvinit-core removes gnome?)

2014-10-21 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 21 oct 14, 09:08:26, The Wanderer wrote: > > What I think is being asked for (and what I'd certainly like to see, > anyway) is a way for the user, having figured out which packages they > don't want removed, to tell the aptitude resolver that and have it taken > in

aptitude dependency-resolver behaviors (was Re: apt-get install sysvinit-core removes gnome?)

2014-10-21 Thread The Wanderer
On 10/20/2014 at 11:59 AM, David Kalnischkies wrote: > On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 09:32:54AM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > >> David Kalnischkies: >>> This isn't trying harder, it is trying increasingly incorrect >>> solutions to the problem because aptitude a

aptitude / package purged

2014-07-21 Thread Vincent Lefevre
o. I haven't seen any official documentation saying that > > > > this is a bad thing to do. > > > > > > aptitude actively warns against it as highlighted in this thread. > > > > Wrong! I purge removed packages almost all the time with aptitude, > >

Re: Bug#746824: Patch aptitude: ftbfs with GCC-4.9

2014-06-10 Thread David Westberg
ome! > > Since there is a patch for the package aptitude, in my opinion quilt > should be added to Build-Depends, it is not included now. > > > > Regards > Sphinx Regards David Description: gcc 4.9 FTBFS corrections -Werror=unused-function serialize_pattern_list in sr

Bug#746824: Patch aptitude: ftbfs with GCC-4.9

2014-05-31 Thread David Westberg
member apply in strip_shared_ptrs_result: BOOST_STATIC_ASSERT code commented out. Needs a better solution. Author: David Westberg Bug-Debian: http://bugs.debian.org/746824 Index: aptitude-0.6.10/src/generic/apt/matching/serialize.cc

Re: Aptitude best to ignore a dependency

2013-04-18 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> your question is better suited for one of the various support > channels. Including but not limited to the > debian-u...@lists.debian.org mailinglists, which are even available > in different languages. > Some quick answers anyway: Thanks I changed it from the user list at the last minute as

Re: Aptitude best to ignore a dependency

2013-04-18 Thread David Kalnischkies
: > Does this work and is aptitude the best way to update whilst ignoring > incorrect or even debatable dependencies or can apt-get do so too. The best way is to not choose this way. Or any other way suggested in this superuser thread. Packages usually have dependencies for a reason, not just becau

Aptitude best to ignore a dependency

2013-04-18 Thread Kevin Chadwick
http://superuser.com/questions/95509/tell-aptitude-to-ignore-broken-package Does this work and is aptitude the best way to update whilst ignoring incorrect or even debatable dependencies or can apt-get do so too. Is equiv a fast and easy solution? Currently I am getting fix broken on steam

Re: Interactive package management via aptitude

2013-04-15 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Andreas Beckmann] > Looks like we should start doing some automated upgrade tests with > aptitude ... jenkins.debian.net would be one solution, piuparts > another (anybody who wants to write a patch?). A few years ago I did chroot upgrade tests like the one done by jenkins.debian.n

Re: Interactive package management via aptitude

2013-04-13 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> > > Aptitude installs all recommended packages by default which was rather > > > annoying until I found that in the options menu as I ran out of space a > > > couple of times. > > > > as does apt-get. > > I'm fairly sure synaptic do

Re: Interactive package management via aptitude

2013-04-09 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 06:15:12PM +0200, Andreas Beckmann wrote: > On 2013-04-09 17:57, Osamu Aoki wrote: > [...] > >>> I'm not sure if it makes sense to recommend aptitude in its present state. > >> I wouldn't recommend it when operating with multiarch enab

Re: Interactive package management via aptitude

2013-04-09 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> > Aptitude installs all recommended packages by default which was rather > > annoying until I found that in the options menu as I ran out of space a > > couple of times. > > as does apt-get. I'm fairly sure synaptic doesn't select recommended by default, h

Re: Interactive package management via aptitude

2013-04-09 Thread Andreas Beckmann
On 2013-04-09 17:57, Osamu Aoki wrote: [...] >>> I'm not sure if it makes sense to recommend aptitude in its present state. >> >> I wouldn't recommend it when operating with multiarch enabled. Otherwise it's >> mostly fine. Looks like we should sta

Re: Interactive package management via aptitude

2013-04-09 Thread The Wanderer
On 04/09/2013 11:57 AM, Osamu Aoki wrote: Hi, On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 09:32:52AM +0800, Chow Loong Jin wrote: On 09/04/2013 06:43, Adam Borowski wrote: Have you been able to get that effect from aptitude? It seems that whenever it sees some trouble (sometimes even when plain apt-get

Re: Interactive package management via aptitude

2013-04-09 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 09:32:52AM +0800, Chow Loong Jin wrote: > On 09/04/2013 06:43, Adam Borowski wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 04:19:19AM +0800, Chow Loong Jin wrote: > >> Actually, in the event of aptitude not being able to resolve the > >> dependenc

Re: Interactive package management via aptitude

2013-04-09 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, > Le Mon, Apr 08, 2013 at 06:02:27PM +0300, Eugene Lychauka a écrit : > > http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/amd64/release-notes/ch-whats-new.html#pkgmgmt > > > > Here we can read: > > > > "The preferred program for interactive package management

Re: Interactive package management via aptitude

2013-04-09 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 7:29 PM, Wookey wrote: > Is anyone actually working on making the aptitude multiarch-friendly, or > planning to? It appears so, see the bottom of this mail: http://lists.debian.org/deity/2013/04/msg00027.html -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise

Re: Interactive package management via aptitude

2013-04-09 Thread Darac Marjal
On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 12:29:09PM +0100, Wookey wrote: [cut] > > I too am a huge aptitude fan. The curses UI is brilliant for working > out what's up when things are a bit broken. However it doesn't deal > with multiarch well so I've been stuck with apt-get trying to w

Re: Interactive package management via aptitude

2013-04-09 Thread Thomas Preud'homme
Le mardi 9 avril 2013 13:29:09, Wookey a écrit : > > I too am a huge aptitude fan. The curses UI is brilliant for working > out what's up when things are a bit broken. However it doesn't deal > with multiarch well so I've been stuck with apt-get trying to work out >

Re: Interactive package management via aptitude

2013-04-09 Thread Wookey
+++ Chow Loong Jin [2013-04-09 09:32 +0800]: > On 09/04/2013 06:43, Adam Borowski wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 04:19:19AM +0800, Chow Loong Jin wrote: > >> Actually, in the event of aptitude not being able to resolve the > >> dependencies > >> satisfact

Re: Interactive package management via aptitude

2013-04-09 Thread Martin Bagge / brother
On 2013-04-09 11:05, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > Aptitude installs all recommended packages by default which was rather > annoying until I found that in the options menu as I ran out of space a > couple of times. as does apt-get. -- brother http://sis.bthstudent.se -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: Interactive package management via aptitude

2013-04-09 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> For instance, one of the (ugly) boxes I help admin recently > had 1000 pacakges yet to update and > 60 security packages not done, and not > enough space on the box to do them. Aptitude installs all recommended packages by default which was rather annoying until I found that in

Re: Interactive package management via aptitude

2013-04-08 Thread Chris Knadle
On Monday, April 08, 2013 18:43:06, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 04:19:19AM +0800, Chow Loong Jin wrote: > > Actually, in the event of aptitude not being able to resolve the > > dependencies satisfactorily the first round (from aptitude install foo), > >

Re: Interactive package management via aptitude

2013-04-08 Thread Chow Loong Jin
On 09/04/2013 06:43, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 04:19:19AM +0800, Chow Loong Jin wrote: >> Actually, in the event of aptitude not being able to resolve the dependencies >> satisfactorily the first round (from aptitude install foo), aptitude allows >> yo

Re: Interactive package management via aptitude

2013-04-08 Thread Russ Allbery
Adam Borowski writes: > On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 04:19:19AM +0800, Chow Loong Jin wrote: >> Actually, in the event of aptitude not being able to resolve the >> dependencies satisfactorily the first round (from aptitude install >> foo), aptitude allows you to interactively pic

Re: Interactive package management via aptitude

2013-04-08 Thread Adam Borowski
On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 04:19:19AM +0800, Chow Loong Jin wrote: > Actually, in the event of aptitude not being able to resolve the dependencies > satisfactorily the first round (from aptitude install foo), aptitude allows > you > to interactively pick other solutions, or tell it what

Re: Interactive package management via aptitude

2013-04-08 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Mon, Apr 08, 2013 at 06:02:27PM +0300, Eugene Lychauka a écrit : > http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/amd64/release-notes/ch-whats-new.html#pkgmgmt > > Here we can read: > > "The preferred program for interactive package management from a > terminal is aptitude

Re: Interactive package management via aptitude

2013-04-08 Thread Chow Loong Jin
On 08/04/2013 23:02, Eugene Lychauka wrote: > http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/amd64/release-notes/ch-whats-new.html#pkgmgmt > > Here we can read: > > "The preferred program for interactive package management from a > terminal is aptitude. For a non-interactive com

Re: Interactive package management via aptitude

2013-04-08 Thread Chris Knadle
On Monday, April 08, 2013 11:02:27, Eugene Lychauka wrote: > http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/amd64/release-notes/ch-whats-new.htm > l#pkgmgmt > > Here we can read: > > "The preferred program for interactive package management from a > terminal is aptitude. For

Interactive package management via aptitude

2013-04-08 Thread Eugene Lychauka
http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/amd64/release-notes/ch-whats-new.html#pkgmgmt Here we can read: "The preferred program for interactive package management from a terminal is aptitude. For a non-interactive command line interface for package management, it is recommended to use ap

Re: Bug#690183: ITP: apt-fast -- shellscript wrapper for apt-get or aptitude

2012-10-13 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 13 oct 12, 16:55:17, David Kalnischkies wrote: > > If you don't fall for such placebo effects you are unfortunately out of luck > as "host" is the default, but you can use a service like http.debian.net > (which only works so well because "host" is the default …) to get a > real benefit - a

Re: Bug#690183: ITP: apt-fast -- shellscript wrapper for apt-get or aptitude

2012-10-13 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 11 oct 12, 18:22:50, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 09:59:35AM -0300, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer > wrote: > > Of course, being able to download stuff from two different servers at the > > same > > time had a better end result, and as long as is one download at a

Re: Bug#690183: ITP: apt-fast -- shellscript wrapper for apt-get or aptitude

2012-10-11 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 09:59:35AM -0300, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: > Of course, being able to download stuff from two different servers at the > same > time had a better end result, and as long as is one download at a time per > server, I think it can be considered socially ac

Re: Bug#690183: ITP: apt-fast -- shellscript wrapper for apt-get or aptitude

2012-10-11 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
On Thu 11 Oct 2012 09:59:35 Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer escribió: [snip] > Well, parallel download does **greatly** improves speed when you access > international servers, like we had to do in Argentina until some few weeks > ago. WRT non i386/amd64 archs. -- Programming today is a race

Re: Bug#690183: ITP: apt-fast -- shellscript wrapper for apt-get or aptitude

2012-10-11 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
On Thu 11 Oct 2012 02:55:24 Marco d'Itri escribió: > On Oct 11, Hideki Yamane wrote: > > > apt-fast is a shellscript wrapper for apt-get that can drastically > > > improve apt download times by downloading packages in parallel, with > > > multiple connections per package. > > > > well, isn't it

Bug#690157: ITP: aptitude-robot -- Automate package choice management

2012-10-11 Thread Elmar S. Heeb
Package: wnpp Owner: "Elmar S. Heeb" Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: aptitude-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org, debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: aptitude-robot Version : 1.0 Upstream Author : "Elmar S. Heeb" * URL : https://github.com/

Re: Bug#690183: ITP: apt-fast -- shellscript wrapper for apt-get or aptitude

2012-10-10 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Oct 11, Hideki Yamane wrote: > > apt-fast is a shellscript wrapper for apt-get that can drastically improve > > apt > > download times by downloading packages in parallel, with multiple > > connections > > per package. > well, isn't it huge load for repository servers? As a mirror operator

Re: Bug#690183: ITP: apt-fast -- shellscript wrapper for apt-get or aptitude

2012-10-10 Thread Hideki Yamane
On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 23:53:31 +0200 Dominique Lasserre wrote: > * Package name: apt-fast > apt-fast is a shellscript wrapper for apt-get that can drastically improve apt > download times by downloading packages in parallel, with multiple connections > per package. well, isn't it huge load fo

Bug#690183: ITP: apt-fast -- shellscript wrapper for apt-get or aptitude

2012-10-10 Thread Dominique Lasserre
: shellscript wrapper for apt-get or aptitude apt-fast is a shellscript wrapper for apt-get that can drastically improve apt download times by downloading packages in parallel, with multiple connections per package. It uses aria2 oder axel as download managers and apt-get --print-uris to get

Heads up: aptitude-gtk will likely vanish from Debian

2012-03-20 Thread Axel Beckert
Hi, since not all read Planet Debian, just a short heads up that the current Aptitude developers plan to stop building aptitude-gtk from the aptitude sources -- unless someone steps up and resurrects the currently buggy and unpopular aptitude-gtk, maybe even as its own source package. See the

dpkg, aptitude and use of state files (was: Re: Important information regarding upcoming dpkg 1.16.2 upload)

2012-03-18 Thread Daniel Hartwig
TL;DR: aptitude does keep dpkg/status and apt/extended_states up-to-date with the *current* state of a package, just like other software. Please do not grok pkgstates to determine if something is installed, etc. On 18 March 2012 23:16, John D. Hendrickson and Sara Darnell wrote: > Hi, I l

Re: aptitude weirdness wrt upgrades and keeps

2011-10-15 Thread Norbert Preining
On Sa, 15 Okt 2011, Josh Triplett wrote: > quickly by using the "reject" and "approve" mechanism. When you view Thanks for that hint, yes, that works actually much better. No I only have to remember it ;-) Best wishes Norbert -

Re: aptitude weirdness wrt upgrades and keeps

2011-10-15 Thread Josh Triplett
n that simply keeps some of the packages at the current > level. > > Well, normally it is a few times ".", no with gnome3, I stopped after > 100 (hundred!) times pressing ".", and still aptitude does not suggest > the simple solution to keep all those gnome3 pack

Re: aptitude weirdness wrt upgrades and keeps

2011-10-14 Thread Norbert Preining
On Fr, 14 Okt 2011, Marvin Renich wrote: > You can use "aptitude safe-upgrade --visual-preview", though this is not > particularly convenient when already running the aptitude cua. That was very useful, and actually works. Great. > You can also check out "Aptitude::Alway

Re: aptitude weirdness wrt upgrades and keeps

2011-10-14 Thread Norbert Preining
On Fr, 14 Okt 2011, Jarek Kamiński wrote: > > Not a solution for the interactive mode, or am I wrong? > > You can use aptitude --safe-resolver. Didn't work either ... still not getting the best result. I still get "6 removals, 1 keep" instead of "n keeps&qu

Re: aptitude weirdness wrt upgrades and keeps

2011-10-14 Thread Norbert Preining
On Fr, 14 Okt 2011, Fabian Greffrath wrote: > priority set in /etc/apt/preferences? Mine looks like this and I Good point. Strange enough I have a *very* strange /etc/apt/preferences file that I don't remember to have *EVER* created: Package: * Pin: release a=unstable-i386 Pin-Priority: 400 Pac

Re: aptitude weirdness wrt upgrades and keeps

2011-10-14 Thread Jarek Kamiński
Na grupie linux.debian.devel napisałe(a)ś: >>> Is there such an option? And if not, can we please please have one? >> aptitude safe-upgrade has been around for years. > Not a solution for the interactive mode, or am I wrong? You can use aptitude --safe-resolver. -- pozdr();

Re: aptitude weirdness wrt upgrades and keeps

2011-10-14 Thread Marvin Renich
* Miles Bader [111014 03:04]: > Paul Wise writes: > >> Not a solution for the interactive mode, or am I wrong? > > > > Not AFAICT, I only read the documentation rather than the code though. > > Kinda surprising, actually; this has long been the #1 most horrible &

Re: aptitude weirdness wrt upgrades and keeps

2011-10-14 Thread Fabian Greffrath
how can I teach aptitude to not be sooo incredible stupid? In the current transition to gnome3 (or it seems) I press Maybe experimental (where gnome3 currently resides) has the wrong priority set in /etc/apt/preferences? Mine looks like this and I regularly upgrade (through apt-get, though

Re: aptitude weirdness wrt upgrades and keeps

2011-10-14 Thread Norbert Preining
On Fr, 14 Okt 2011, Miles Bader wrote: > [With the normal "U" command, for my typical usage, aptitude seems to > choose the worst possible solution about 98% of the time.] Agreed on that. What is the most typical scenario sid people are hitting, transitions in progress, and t

Re: aptitude weirdness wrt upgrades and keeps

2011-10-14 Thread Miles Bader
Paul Wise writes: >> Not a solution for the interactive mode, or am I wrong? > > Not AFAICT, I only read the documentation rather than the code though. Kinda surprising, actually; this has long been the #1 most horrible thing about aptitude, and one about which there's been plen

Re: aptitude weirdness wrt upgrades and keeps

2011-10-13 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Norbert Preining wrote: > Not a solution for the interactive mode, or am I wrong? Not AFAICT, I only read the documentation rather than the code though. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debia

Re: aptitude weirdness wrt upgrades and keeps

2011-10-13 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi Paul, On Fr, 14 Okt 2011, Paul Wise wrote: > > Is there such an option? And if not, can we please please have one? > > aptitude safe-upgrade has been around for years. Not a solution for the interactive mode, or am I wrong? Best wis

Re: aptitude weirdness wrt upgrades and keeps

2011-10-13 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Norbert Preining wrote: > Is there such an option? And if not, can we please please have one? aptitude safe-upgrade has been around for years. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.

aptitude weirdness wrt upgrades and keeps

2011-10-13 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi everyone, esp aptitude masters, how can I teach aptitude to not be sooo incredible stupid? In the current transition to gnome3 (or it seems) I press U to update all packages, and then it suggests me to remove 30 or so packages. I know this game, normally I have to press ".&q

Re: does aptitude really need to lock the status database when downloading?

2011-02-05 Thread Ben Hutchings
gt; Isn't a lock needed in that case as well? > > > > That should a different lock. Currently, when _dowloading_ aptitude > > holds a lock that prevents _installing_. > > It also needs to hold apt and synaptic from downloading, at least from > downloading the

Re: does aptitude really need to lock the status database when downloading?

2011-02-05 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Peter Samuelson writes: > [Simon Chopin] >> But I believe what Stanislas mean is to unpack while downloading the >> rest of the packages. I often wondered why it wasn't the case, but >> I've assumed so far that there was probably a reason I just could not >> think of :) > > I think it is because

Re: does aptitude really need to lock the status database when downloading?

2011-02-05 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
hink that holding a lock only for downloading is an overkill >> > and this can be relaxed. >> >> What if you would launch two download-only ops at the same time? >> Isn't a lock needed in that case as well? > > That should a different lock. Currently, when _dowloading_

Re: does aptitude really need to lock the status database when downloading?

2011-02-04 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Simon Chopin] > But I believe what Stanislas mean is to unpack while downloading the > rest of the packages. I often wondered why it wasn't the case, but > I've assumed so far that there was probably a reason I just could not > think of :) I think it is because, in the general case, it is not a

Re: does aptitude really need to lock the status database when downloading?

2011-02-04 Thread Fernando Lemos
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 5:10 PM, Simon Chopin wrote: [...] >> > As Julian Taylor mentioned, there is also another side of the same >> > problem: aptitude itself can be improved so that it is able to >> > download and unpack in parallel. If it were doing this then the l

Re: does aptitude really need to lock the status database when downloading?

2011-02-04 Thread Simon Chopin
Hi ! On Fri, Feb 04, 2011 at 09:47:21AM -0200, Fernando Lemos wrote: > On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 6:57 AM, Stanislav Maslovski [...] > > As Julian Taylor mentioned, there is also another side of the same > > problem: aptitude itself can be improved so that it is able to > > d

Re: does aptitude really need to lock the status database when downloading?

2011-02-04 Thread Stanislav Maslovski
therefore I cannot promise any help with it and may only ask for other people that may be interested in implementing this. Maybe in a competing software (was there something called cupt?) > > As Julian Taylor mentioned, there is also another side of the same > > problem: aptitude

Re: does aptitude really need to lock the status database when downloading?

2011-02-04 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Friday 04 February 2011 12.47:21 Fernando Lemos wrote: > do, say, an "apt-get upgrade", apt prepares an upgrade "plan" that > uses a given set of packages. If apt wouldn't lock [...] > new plan would have to be created, the user would > have to be asked for confirmation again. Doesn't sound that

Re: does aptitude really need to lock the status database when downloading?

2011-02-04 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:47 PM, Fernando Lemos wrote: >> This is possible, however, it is an extra busy work for a user. In any >> case, I think that holding a lock only for downloading is an overkill >> and this can be relaxed. > > As far as I can tell (and please correct me if I'm wrong), when

Re: does aptitude really need to lock the status database when downloading?

2011-02-04 Thread David Kalnischkies
ation that a dependency could be affected by such an > action, but is not it easy to check for this right before unpacking? As always, the (small) APT team is happy to apply well crafted patches. (and i am sure that is true for aptitude as well) The usecase is so small that until now nobod

Re: does aptitude really need to lock the status database when downloading?

2011-02-04 Thread Fernando Lemos
alid anymore (e.g., new "Breaks" or "Conflicts" were introduced). So a new plan would have to be created, the user would have to be asked for confirmation again. Doesn't sound that great. > As Julian Taylor mentioned, there is also another side of the same > proble

Re: does aptitude really need to lock the status database when downloading?

2011-02-04 Thread Stanislav Maslovski
l > > and this can be relaxed. > > What if you would launch two download-only ops at the same time? > Isn't a lock needed in that case as well? That should a different lock. Currently, when _dowloading_ aptitude holds a lock that prevents _installing_. -- Stanislav -- To U

Re: does aptitude really need to lock the status database when downloading?

2011-02-04 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Feb 04, 2011 at 10:00:40AM +0100, Olaf van der Spek wrote: > On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Stanislav Maslovski > wrote: > > This is possible, however, it is an extra busy work for a user. In any > > case, I think that holding a lock only for downloading is an overkill > > and this can be

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