Le jeudi 16 avril 2009 à 01:25 +0200, Luca Niccoli a écrit :
> I think I (and the other people who are against X dependency on hal)
> have been pretty clear on the fact that we would just like an
> alternative, not to kick hal away (we're not stupid nor crazy). I
> think this would be good for debi
2009/4/15 David Nusinow :
> This is absurd. You agree that Hal fills an important need, yet you don't
> like it because it's currently buggy? What the hell are you doing running
I wrote that **an** abstraction layer is the way to go.
I deem hal flawed by design, sorry about that, all my skills (n
Luca Niccoli wrote:
2009/4/15 David Nusinow :
Please see the reply I just posted to the bug for a partial explanation of
why using hal is important for more than just hotplugging. I'll be writing
up a more complete explanation soon.
I understand that hal fills an important gap in linu
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 11:02:16PM +0200, Luca Niccoli wrote:
> 2009/4/15 David Nusinow :
>
> > Please see the reply I just posted to the bug for a partial explanation of
> > why using hal is important for more than just hotplugging. I'll be writing
> > up a more complete explanation soon.
>
> I
2009/4/15 David Nusinow :
> Please see the reply I just posted to the bug for a partial explanation of
> why using hal is important for more than just hotplugging. I'll be writing
> up a more complete explanation soon.
I understand that hal fills an important gap in linux; I think that
from an ar
Le mercredi 15 avril 2009 à 22:26 +0200, Iustin Pop a écrit :
> hal, AFAIK, is useful for users who don't want to customize systems; once you
> start customizing, hal and similar tools more get in the way than help.
HAL is merely an intermediate layer to help access underlying layers
like udev usi
Luca Niccoli wrote:
But what if I don't need hotplugging? Why should I bear hal flaws if I
don't need its features?
Please see the reply I just posted to the bug for a partial explanation
of why using hal is important for more than just hotplugging. I'll be
writing up a more complete expla
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 09:57:25PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> ]] Luca Niccoli
>
> | But what if I don't need hotplugging? Why should I bear hal flaws if I
> | don't need its features?
>
> A machine without USB or PCI is not a particularly common sight those
> days. Heck, even machines with
]] Luca Niccoli
| But what if I don't need hotplugging? Why should I bear hal flaws if I
| don't need its features?
A machine without USB or PCI is not a particularly common sight those
days. Heck, even machines without SATA are becoming uncommon.
--
Tollef Fog Heen
UNIX is user friendly, it'
2009/4/15 Josselin Mouette :
> Or maybe it is just that the Utopia maintainers, just like those of
> Linux, KDE, GNOME, Mozilla or X.org, receive too many bug reports
> compared to the amount they can handle. Bugs assigned to HAL are often
> caused by buggy drivers or other kernel bugs, or they ne
Le mercredi 15 avril 2009 à 18:25 +0200, Luca Niccoli a écrit :
> Is there a convenient way to measure how long a bug stays unanswered?
> Or could someone suggest a better metric?
> Because I have the feeling that many hal bugs are just kept undealt
> (upstream as well), way more than with other pa
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