* From: David Nusinow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 20:15:08 -0400
>
> On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 08:00:17PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
>> On Sat, May 26, 2007 at 07:53:30PM -0400, David Nusinow wrote:
>> > The only thing I've ever heard about helping out with the website is that
>> > it
On Fri, 01 Jun 2007, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
>
> > So consider this a +1 for me to get write access to all DD by default in
> > our website.
>
> for the content I'm pretty sure that's a good idea. Giving all DDs
> access to the css could result in a new design every week. Although that
> sounds like
> So consider this a +1 for me to get write access to all DD by default in
> our website.
for the content I'm pretty sure that's a good idea. Giving all DDs
access to the css could result in a new design every week. Although that
sounds like an interesting thing to watch ;)
--
Bernd Zeimetz
<[E
On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 03:15:31AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > > If I already have access and I get an itch, I will scratch it. If I
> > > don't, I will either forget about it or complain. I am unlikely to go
> > > through whatever bureaucracy is set up to request access. Whether or
> > > n
On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 09:29:01AM +0200, Bart Martens wrote:
> But I did the effort of finding the procedure and asking for cvs commit
> access to the webwml files. To my surprise I got the access granted
> within 24 hours.
Truth be told, you were reasonably lucky to get Matt's ACK and Joey's
ad
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 08:15:08PM -0400, David Nusinow wrote:
> > > The only thing I've ever heard about helping out with the website is that
> > > it's a herculean task that no mere mortal should attempt.
> >
> > Where did you hear this?
>
> Word of mouth, usually in conjunction with promises t
On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 11:44:13AM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
> On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 07:45:17PM -0400, Clint Adams wrote:
> > > Anyway, before we get lost in all this prediction stuff, I'm yet to hear
> > > a good reason why we need complete triviality in the access method, as
> > > opposed to th
On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 09:06:06AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> Because most people don't bother when they want to fix only a small
> detail in a web page.
Well, when I want to fix a small detail in some other part of Debian,
I usually send a mail or file a bug, I don't automatically think tha
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 07:45:17PM -0400, Clint Adams wrote:
> > Anyway, before we get lost in all this prediction stuff, I'm yet to hear
> > a good reason why we need complete triviality in the access method, as
> > opposed to the kind of triviality we have had for years now: all that is
> > neces
On Wed, 2007-05-30 at 09:06 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> On Wed, 30 May 2007, Josip Rodin wrote:
> > Anyway, before we get lost in all this prediction stuff, I'm yet to hear
> > a good reason why we need complete triviality in the access method, as
> > opposed to the kind of triviality we have h
On Wed, 30 May 2007, Josip Rodin wrote:
> Anyway, before we get lost in all this prediction stuff, I'm yet to hear
> a good reason why we need complete triviality in the access method, as
> opposed to the kind of triviality we have had for years now: all that is
> necessary to get webwml access is
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 08:00:17PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
> On Sat, May 26, 2007 at 07:53:30PM -0400, David Nusinow wrote:
> > The only thing I've ever heard about helping out with the website is that
> > it's a herculean task that no mere mortal should attempt.
>
> Where did you hear this?
Wo
On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 01:02:12AM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
> Anyway, before we get lost in all this prediction stuff, I'm yet to hear
> a good reason why we need complete triviality in the access method, as
> opposed to the kind of triviality we have had for years now: all that is
> necessary to
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 06:37:45PM -0400, Clint Adams wrote:
> > It's not unfair to say that web editing is by and large much a easier thing
> > compared to coding the C library. Consequently, the number of people who
> > know how to do it, as well as the people who *think* they know how to do it,
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 08:30:23PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
> It's not unfair to say that web editing is by and large much a easier thing
> compared to coding the C library. Consequently, the number of people who
> know how to do it, as well as the people who *think* they know how to do it,
> is m
On Tuesday 29 May 2007 20:01, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> What was unfair wasn't to say debian-www has issues, it was to put it
> on the same level than DSA, and for that I appology to the member of
> the www team
Thx.
pgpdel5FCQMRF.pgp
Description: PGP signature
On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 02:10:09PM -0400, Clint Adams wrote:
> > How were things working in the debian-glibc CVS? Did accidents or hot
> > discussions hapen because of the very opened commit access?
>
> No more so than happens today with the more closed SVN repo.
But it's not necessarily an indic
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 07:54:34PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
> On Sat, May 26, 2007 at 11:58:54PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> > > > and the debian-www team is recovering from the
> > > > shock that HTML 4.01 has been released recently and that CSS2 is almost
> > > > stable (err wait, I wasn't r
On Sat, May 26, 2007 at 07:53:30PM -0400, David Nusinow wrote:
> The only thing I've ever heard about helping out with the website is that
> it's a herculean task that no mere mortal should attempt.
Where did you hear this?
How does all that documentation we have had for years at
http://www.debia
On Sat, May 26, 2007 at 11:58:54PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> > > and the debian-www team is recovering from the
> > > shock that HTML 4.01 has been released recently and that CSS2 is almost
> > > stable (err wait, I wasn't reading my calendar properly, we're in 2007
> > > not 1997, sorry).
>
"Francesco P. Lovergine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 11:56:12AM +0200, Frank Küster wrote:
>>
>> Yes, you simply submit a bug report with a patch, and wait for a couple
>> of year for it to be applied.
>>
>> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?which=pkg&data=www
On Mon, May 28, 2007 at 11:56:12AM +0200, Frank Küster wrote:
>
> Yes, you simply submit a bug report with a patch, and wait for a couple
> of year for it to be applied.
>
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?which=pkg&data=www.debian.org&archive=no&version=&dist=unstable&include=patch
Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sunday 27 May 2007 01:53, David Nusinow wrote:
>> The only thing I've ever heard about helping out with the website is
>> that it's a herculean task that no mere mortal should attempt.
>
> Yes, a complete redesign of the website is a herculean task, but
>
On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 04:00:10PM +0200, Bart Martens wrote:
> On Sun, 2007-05-27 at 13:31 +0100, Mark Brown wrote:
> > What you're saying here appears to be that you find Frans' response
> > unhelpful and unconstructive.
> I didn't read it that way. I think that Pierre meant to say that
> so
On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 08:13:37AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote:
> How were things working in the debian-glibc CVS? Did accidents or hot
> discussions hapen because of the very opened commit access?
No more so than happens today with the more closed SVN repo.
--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAI
maybe you can use the debianart.org platform.
Dom, 2007-05-27 às 09:30 -0400, Kevin Mark escreveu:
> On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 11:35:26AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
> > On Sun, 27 May 2007, Frans Pop wrote:
> >
> > >Yes, a complete redesign of the website is a herculean task, but
> > >contributing
On Sun, 2007-05-27 at 13:31 +0100, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Sat, May 26, 2007 at 11:58:54PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> > On Sat, May 26, 2007 at 11:20:53PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> > > On Saturday 26 May 2007 23:07, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
>
> > > > and the debian-www team is recovering from th
On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 11:35:26AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
> On Sun, 27 May 2007, Frans Pop wrote:
>
> >Yes, a complete redesign of the website is a herculean task, but
> >contributing to specific pages or parts is trivial. OTOH, I expect that
> >for a webdesign professional even a redesign wo
On Sat, May 26, 2007 at 11:58:54PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> On Sat, May 26, 2007 at 11:20:53PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> > On Saturday 26 May 2007 23:07, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> > > and the debian-www team is recovering from the
> > > shock that HTML 4.01 has been released recently and tha
On Sun, 27 May 2007, Mike Hommey wrote:
> On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 11:35:26AM +0200, Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > On Sun, 27 May 2007, Frans Pop wrote:
> >
> > >Yes, a complete redesign of the website is a herculean task, but
> > >contributing to specific pages or parts is trivia
On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 11:35:26AM +0200, Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Sun, 27 May 2007, Frans Pop wrote:
>
> >Yes, a complete redesign of the website is a herculean task, but
> >contributing to specific pages or parts is trivial. OTOH, I expect that
> >for a webdesign profession
On Sun, 27 May 2007, Frans Pop wrote:
Yes, a complete redesign of the website is a herculean task, but
contributing to specific pages or parts is trivial. OTOH, I expect that
for a webdesign professional even a redesign would be quite manageable as
AFAICT the technical structure of the website i
On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 02:13:47AM +0200, Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sunday 27 May 2007 01:53, David Nusinow wrote:
> > The only thing I've ever heard about helping out with the website is
> > that it's a herculean task that no mere mortal should attempt.
>
> Yes, a complete redesig
> So make the www repo writable by group Debian just like debian-glibc CVS
> used to be.
That sounds to be a fair suggestion. I suppose that changes are
posted somewhere (debian-www?) so "accidents" should be easy to
avoid/revert.
What would be the risks? A commit/revert war like the one we rec
> The wiki is completely centered on English and therefore fails to serve a
> significant portion of our users. Sure, parts of the wiki are translated,
> but maintenance of that is an orders of magnitude worse problem than it
> is for the website.
>
> As far as I'm concerned the wiki is not a v
On Sunday 27 May 2007 01:53, David Nusinow wrote:
> The only thing I've ever heard about helping out with the website is
> that it's a herculean task that no mere mortal should attempt.
Yes, a complete redesign of the website is a herculean task, but
contributing to specific pages or parts is tri
On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 12:11:03AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> What you fail to see is that there is not really such a thing as the www
> team. Basically there are a bunch of people with commit access who all
> mostly just care about a particular part of the website.
> For some this is the technica
On Sat, May 26, 2007 at 06:22:08PM -0400, Clint Adams wrote:
> On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 12:11:03AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> > However, I do feel my comment is justified in the sense that if there is
> > one thing in Debian that is the joint responsibility of _all_ DDs, then
> > it is the website.
On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 12:11:03AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> However, I do feel my comment is justified in the sense that if there is
> one thing in Debian that is the joint responsibility of _all_ DDs, then
> it is the website. So yes, if you've never contributed in any way to the
> website, fe
On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 12:11:03AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> However, I do feel my comment is justified in the sense that if there is
> one thing in Debian that is the joint responsibility of _all_ DDs, then
> it is the website. So yes, if you've never contributed in any way to the
> website, f
On Saturday 26 May 2007 23:58, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> So well, sorry, but I don't see why I should be part of every
> mis-functioning team in Debian to have the right to say they do a poor
> job.
Constructive criticism is welcome; ridiculing only shows a bad attitude by
the person who does it
On Sat, May 26, 2007 at 11:20:53PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> On Saturday 26 May 2007 23:07, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> > and the debian-www team is recovering from the
> > shock that HTML 4.01 has been released recently and that CSS2 is almost
> > stable (err wait, I wasn't reading my calendar proper
On Saturday 26 May 2007 23:07, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> and the debian-www team is recovering from the
> shock that HTML 4.01 has been released recently and that CSS2 is almost
> stable (err wait, I wasn't reading my calendar properly, we're in 2007
> not 1997, sorry).
Why don't you join the team?
On Sat, May 26, 2007 at 10:54:06PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> On Sat, 26 May 2007, Andreas Barth wrote:
> > * Raphael Hertzog ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070526 21:52]:
> > > In order to try to address that I started a wiki page whose goal is to be
> > > a
> > > good introductory page to all teams.
On Sat, 26 May 2007, Andreas Barth wrote:
> * Raphael Hertzog ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070526 21:52]:
> > In order to try to address that I started a wiki page whose goal is to be a
> > good introductory page to all teams. Anyone who wants to learn more about
> > some teams should be able to consult th
On Sat, May 26, 2007 at 10:13:51PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
> * Raphael Hertzog ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070526 21:52]:
> > In order to try to address that I started a wiki page whose goal is to be a
> > good introductory page to all teams. Anyone who wants to learn more about
> > some teams should
* Raphael Hertzog ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070526 21:52]:
> In order to try to address that I started a wiki page whose goal is to be a
> good introductory page to all teams. Anyone who wants to learn more about
> some teams should be able to consult the page and have an idea of what
> he/she could do
47 matches
Mail list logo
